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Paul’s reaction to more Federal Reserve stimulus:

“It should not surprise anybody, but it is still astounding. To me, it is so astounding that it does not collapse the markets. [Bernanke] said, ‘We are in very big trouble. We are going to do something unprecedented and we believe it will not hurt the dollar.’ And yet the stocks, they say ‘we love this stuff.’ But the dollar didn’t do so well today and the real value of the dollar is measured against gold, and gold skyrocketed from its very low to its highest. It means we are weakening the dollar. We are trying to liquidate our debt through inflation. The consequence of what the Fed is doing is a lot more than just CPI. It has to do with malinvestment and people doing the wrong things at the wrong time.Believe me, there is plenty of that. The one thing that Bernanke has not achieved and it frustrates him, I can tell—is he gets no economic growth. He doesn’t do anything with the unemployment numbers. I think the country should have panicked over what theFed is saying that we have lost control and the only thing we have left is massively creating new money out of thin air, which has not worked before, and is not going to work this time.”

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The Fed Panicked
…The bottom line is that the Fed panicked. It is extraordinary that the Fed would announce an open-ended “we’ll print as much as it takes, as long as it takes” policy. Chairman Bernanke is sending a signal to the markets and to government that the economy is bad and getting worse and that the Fed will do its part as everyone expects them to do. This is a clear signal to the markets and the world that the Fed stands for monetary inflation. They don’t know what else to do.

As we have long been telling readers, unemployment is the key to Fed policy and they have formally made it their policy linchpin. As far back as May, 2011, on Fox Business News I said that Mr. Bernanke has no other real alternatives other than QE and that with rising unemployment, he would be pressured to “do something.”

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Why announce QE 3 now?

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Why would the Fed and ECB do this? Because they’re scared stiff of what’s happening and are trying to shock and awe the markets into submission with terms like “open ended” and “unlimited.”
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High Oil Prices May Be The Catalyst For The Next Market Crash...

[link to investmentwatchblog.com]
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But Obammy says all is well.jihad2
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And all the sheep are out helping the biggest distraction - what usually followed a Depression? A War, that's right.

And someone is working VERY hard to make just that happen in the ME now....how else can you save a economy and hit the reset button, right?

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And all the sheep are out helping the biggest distraction - what usually followed a Depression? A War, that's right.

And someone is working VERY hard to make just that happen in the ME now....how else can you save a economy and hit the reset button, right?

putin

If people don't get their shit together RIGHT NOW then we're fucked.
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Well said and a good observation. On a key note Christians and Muslims will never shake hands.
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And all the sheep are out helping the biggest distraction - what usually followed a Depression? A War, that's right.

And someone is working VERY hard to make just that happen in the ME now....how else can you save a economy and hit the reset button, right?

putin

If people don't get their shit together RIGHT NOW then we're fucked.
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I totally agree....

It's all about the Benjamins....

Everything else is bread & circus (mostly circus)
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FED has to make sure their charter is extended when it expires 12/21/12. I never see a word about but it would seem a big deal. The United States chartered Central Bank ends in 3 months!

Uncle Ban wants to make sure his boy gets re-elected so FED gets re-chartered.
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And all the sheep are out helping the biggest distraction - what usually followed a Depression? A War, that's right.

And someone is working VERY hard to make just that happen in the ME now....how else can you save a economy and hit the reset button, right?

putin

If people don't get their shit together RIGHT NOW then we're fucked.
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Well said and a good observation. On a key note Christians and Muslims will never shake hands.
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Demonstrators chanted "Muslims and Christians are one hand," and said that the current conflict over the recently released anti-Islam film, "Innocence of Muslims," will only serve to strengthen the relationship between Muslims and Christians in Egypt.


Fekry stressed that Coptic Christians enjoy full rights in their country, noting that Bishop Thodisius of Giza has sent a delegation of priests to demonstrate against insults to the Prophet Mohamed.
[link to www.egyptindependent.com]

Here we do ... don't be too quick to judge by what you see on MSM.

It's all a trap imo! See my original post what it's really about.
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FED has to make sure their charter is extended when it expires 12/21/12. I never see a word about but it would seem a big deal. The United States chartered Central Bank ends in 3 months!

Uncle Ban wants to make sure his boy gets re-elected so FED gets re-chartered.
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I keep hearing this and trying to find an "official" document on the internet, do you have a link that verifies this for sure?
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Go to St Louis Fed "FRED," look at M2 Velocity of Circulation over maximum period of time.... the CREDIT BUBBLE began with Greenspan after the stock collapse of 1987 and began disintegrating around 1998 to today.... The big problem is that M2 Velocity of Money has returned back to the long term historical mean..... which means that the historical velocity of money cannot service the volume of debt created from 1987 thru today.... basic mathematics! Bernanke is caught in the classic Keynesian liquidity trap!
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Go to St Louis Fed "FRED," look at M2 Velocity of Circulation over maximum period of time.... the CREDIT BUBBLE began with Greenspan after the stock collapse of 1987 and began disintegrating around 1998 to today.... The big problem is that M2 Velocity of Money has returned back to the long term historical mean..... which means that the historical velocity of money cannot service the volume of debt created from 1987 thru today.... basic mathematics! Bernanke is caught in the classic Keynesian liquidity trap!
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You sound like you know what you are talking about!
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And all the sheep are out helping the biggest distraction - what usually followed a Depression? A War, that's right.

And someone is working VERY hard to make just that happen in the ME now....how else can you save a economy and hit the reset button, right?

putin

If people don't get their shit together RIGHT NOW then we're fucked.
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It probably wouldn't work this time, it didn't in Germany after the mark fell. They got Hitler, then war.

If you don't have money or capacity to build the things, to fight with, you will be fighting with sticks and stones. The only things they could fight with is High Tech. That would not work to help a depression.
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The bond and derivative markets certainly acted like it was the end of the world today...
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Man I love reading your responses. I'm so glad to find people SOMEWHERE who are AWAKE and PAYING ATTENTION! And your vids and pics are cracking me up!

What Bernanke is doing is absolutely weakening the dollar (and likely pissing China off) The dollar has already dropped since his little announcement:

[link to www.businessweek.com]

Bernanke is attempting to manipulate the markets, provide a bumper (higher reserve) for the banks and hopefully retain some asset value. Problem is this tactic usually winds up leading to INFLATION. What he's investing in is AIR. It's a BIG GAMBLE and there's no guaranteed winning hand.

You all probably already are well aware of this ... but this market play seems futile IMO, considering what happened at the Summit in April when Brazil, Russia, India, China and Russia signed a Local Currency Agreement saying they will no longer trade in U.S. dollars. They are flourishing while we are slowly sinking and Bernanke is just adding fuel to the fire....

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I wish I had some lick of confidence in the direction we're going, but it seems we will soon be mourning the death of the U.S. Dollar. But then, if China calls in this debt, it might be more like, "Welcome to the United Republic of China"ahhh
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The bond and derivative markets certainly acted like it was the end of the world today...
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Was it good or bad?

The market sometimes likes the end of the world!
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And all the sheep are out helping the biggest distraction - what usually followed a Depression? A War, that's right.

And someone is working VERY hard to make just that happen in the ME now....how else can you save a economy and hit the reset button, right?

putin

If people don't get their shit together RIGHT NOW then we're fucked.
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Well said and a good observation. On a key note Christians and Muslims will never shake hands.
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i really don't understand he two posts above.

'if' 'then'???? WTFF?

IT IS OVER FOLKS,...THERE IS NO 'IF' ...'THEN'.

peoples actions at this point are absolutely meaningless!

paper money collapse. panic. war. totalitarianism on a WORLD SCALE.

IT'S HAPPENING NOW. IT IS A FORE GONE CONCLUSION
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No, no, no people! We're already in a depression. This is what depression looks like when you add "credit line" to it. There are massive "breadlines" in every neighborhood now...though upper middle class people won't really admit that. Unemployment is more serious than they're leading you to believe. Those numbers they throw at you mean nothing. They extend and extend and eventually they cut you off, with or without a job and then say...'oh, see the numbers of unemployed are down'. :/ Really? It doesn't take a genius to see that if we took away all the credit loans and cards people have that it would be a depression. When you're debating whether to pay a bill or buy enough food to last a couple of weeks that is a depression. If you're on EBT or thinking of getting it just to catch up with your gas, water, mortgage or tax bill you're in a depression.

TPTB just don't want you to know it is because then you'll know it will take twice as long as it took for our last depression to lift...and even that had some help via war. Wars, unfortunately, are money makers. And TPTB are itching to draft our babies as sacrificial lambs to lift us outta the newly improved, credit-based depression. It's all they know to do. They've already used up all the gold reserves else they would have bought themselves outta trouble already so as not to lose global power.
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i really don't understand he two posts above.

'if' 'then'???? WTFF?

IT IS OVER FOLKS,...THERE IS NO 'IF' ...'THEN'.

peoples actions at this point are absolutely meaningless!

paper money collapse. panic. war. totalitarianism on a WORLD SCALE.

IT'S HAPPENING NOW. IT IS A FORE GONE CONCLUSION
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Just curious, what do you see as a foregone conclusion?

And when you mention totalitarianism on a world scale, are you referring to how we've slowly been signing over our rights (land, mineral, water and small arms) to the U.N.?

Do you see us progressing toward an unstoppable OWO?
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The feds are trying to get rid of all the cash they can to further drain the coffers of America, this is self evident now.

This is a planned assault on America by the Federal Reserve, they plan to destroy us.
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They plan to buy up useless bonds with American cash driving the price of dollar down even further and plunging us into a depression so deep we may never recover fully.
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How much more can we take? How much more can we afford to lose?

It's time to wake up America, we are sitting idly by as the house is on fire..wake up before it burns to the ground and takes you with it.
"Power Corrupts"
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How much more can we take? How much more can we afford to lose?

It's time to wake up America, we are sitting idly by as the house is on fire..wake up before it burns to the ground and takes you with it.
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bump

Last Edited by Dangerwalt on 09/14/2012 07:45 PM
Just one any....

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Double post sorry.

Last Edited by Dangerwalt on 09/14/2012 07:44 PM
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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Sweet retribution coming for the doom tards.
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How much more can we take? How much more can we afford to lose?

It's time to wake up America, we are sitting idly by as the house is on fire..wake up before it burns to the ground and takes you with it.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


I don't think it's happening with most Americans on this board more worried searching for evil moozlims under their bed and in their closet, and afraid of "sleeper cells".

lmao stoopid sheep
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The elites and their partners, the bankers, are the ROOT of the majority of suffering in the world. BOTH political parties are a part of this problem. They cause the inflation eating away at the ability of third world nations to feed themselves. They are destroying the middle class of the US which is its strength. Their goals of power and control of money must be countered.

What can we do?

1. Buy as much silver as you can afford (physical) - if everyone did this, that banks would lose control over much of the manipulation of the "image of the dollar" - please research this, this method is available to most folks, even if EVERYONE just started at one troy ounce per month.


When paper money becomes too abundant, and thus loses its value, man always turns back to precious metals. During these times there is always an enormous wealth transfer, and it is within your power to transfer that wealth away from or towards you.
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2. For the US, don't vote for Rs or Ds - If enough folks vote for someone else, or none of the above, this would change the paradigm overnight.

3. Study history and stop listening to the main street press - the elites use this to control you

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Good to see people with brains are out there. You all have made my day :)
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How much more can we take? How much more can we afford to lose?

It's time to wake up America, we are sitting idly by as the house is on fire..wake up before it burns to the ground and takes you with it.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


I don't think it's happening with most Americans on this board more worried searching for evil moozlims under their bed and in their closet, and afraid of "sleeper cells".

lmao stoopid sheep
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23791006


You'd think the terrorist under your bed card would have lost its punch, it's been used for the past 11 years, day in and day out.



I think Americans are way beyond thinking for themselves and when they do bother to read, they cherry pick the parts that fits with what they have been told is real.
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No, no, no people! We're already in a depression. This is what depression looks like when you add "credit line" to it. There are massive "breadlines" in every neighborhood now...though upper middle class people won't really admit that. Unemployment is more serious than they're leading you to believe. Those numbers they throw at you mean nothing. They extend and extend and eventually they cut you off, with or without a job and then say...'oh, see the numbers of unemployed are down'. :/ Really? It doesn't take a genius to see that if we took away all the credit loans and cards people have that it would be a depression. When you're debating whether to pay a bill or buy enough food to last a couple of weeks that is a depression. If you're on EBT or thinking of getting it just to catch up with your gas, water, mortgage or tax bill you're in a depression.

TPTB just don't want you to know it is because then you'll know it will take twice as long as it took for our last depression to lift...and even that had some help via war. Wars, unfortunately, are money makers. And TPTB are itching to draft our babies as sacrificial lambs to lift us outta the newly improved, credit-based depression. It's all they know to do. They've already used up all the gold reserves else they would have bought themselves outta trouble already so as not to lose global power.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18998054


FFS people, this guy is absolutely right.

We've been in an unprecedented depression since the euphemistically termed 'credit crunch'. All this 'double dip' shit is so much window dressing.

The spin is deliberate - to try and keep the plebs' hopes up so that they'll still keep buying and working and buying and working harder and buying...

But anyone running their own business knows full well that this last year, net revenues have fallen through the floor. Our family business is winding up now.Having been very successful in the past, we're now subsidising customers...(though obviously they don't realise it because they mostly don't have a clue how much the gov screws out of small businesses, depression or no depression.)
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Not that it'll be noticed amongst the dozens of pinned threads on the "muzzies"

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