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Behold... The Bridegroom Cometh!!!

 
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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

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You believe WRONGLY!
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'Head' of the Church = Jesus Christ...already 'delivered'

'Body' of the Church = Believers in Jesus Christ...attached to the Head, but, not yet 'delivered'

'Great Tribulation' = a pressure, a pressing in...'birth canal'

A question for pre-trib hopefuls...what kind of pre-birth, partial abortion of a 'portion' of the 'body of Christ' are you referring to? How can a portion of the 'body' be divided BEFORE birth, and magically join the Head and wait for the REST of the butchered body to join them later?

Your theory just isn't scriptural. Too may Biblical passages have to be 'dismissed' in order to make a few verses fit YOUR plan?

If your looking down a row of 1000 fence posts, and, you see two or three posts out of alignment, do you move ALL the other posts to line up with the two or three posts OR do you adjust YOUR misinterpretation to line up with the WORD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23320653

Only believers in Christ, aka the "church", is Christ's Body. So there is no butchering or dividing.

We are also called the Bride of Christ, and Jesus said at the Last Supper that he was going to prepare a place for us and then return to receives us to himself. This parallels the Jewish wedding custom, after which we will be with him for 7 years to match the 7 days of the wedding feast.

Clearly, this is very scriptural, and I find anti-rapture views to be the ones dismissing scripture. But unlike you, I won't presume their motives for doing so.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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'Head' of the Church = Jesus Christ...already 'delivered'

'Body' of the Church = Believers in Jesus Christ...attached to the Head, but, not yet 'delivered'

'Great Tribulation' = a pressure, a pressing in...'birth canal'

A question for pre-trib hopefuls...what kind of pre-birth, partial abortion of a 'portion' of the 'body of Christ' are you referring to? How can a portion of the 'body' be divided BEFORE birth, and magically join the Head and wait for the REST of the butchered body to join them later?

Your theory just isn't scriptural. Too may Biblical passages have to be 'dismissed' in order to make a few verses fit YOUR plan?

If your looking down a row of 1000 fence posts, and, you see two or three posts out of alignment, do you move ALL the other posts to line up with the two or three posts OR do you adjust YOUR misinterpretation to line up with the WORD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23320653

Only believers in Christ, aka the "church", is Christ's Body. So there is no butchering or dividing.

We are also called the Bride of Christ, and Jesus said at the Last Supper that he was going to prepare a place for us and then return to receives us to himself. This parallels the Jewish wedding custom, after which we will be with him for 7 years to match the 7 days of the wedding feast.

Clearly, this is very scriptural, and I find anti-rapture views to be the ones dismissing scripture. But unlike you, I won't presume their motives for doing so.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Exactly! ^^^

They always seem to find one or two verses of scripture and twist the meaning to fit their view.
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I hope I am not intruding.

Jesus will not marry Jerusalem, nor will he marry The Church.

They have corrupted the scriptures.

I have figured out who he is going to marry.

But you probably will not believe me.

That is a shame, because if you believe me, we may be able to get things started.
 Quoting: niphtrique


Let me see... Should I believe you, or Jesus?

Sorry, but I'll choose Jesus, and His Holy Word over man everytime!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Jesus Holy Word in the scriptures was changed and most of them are not even IN the scriptures. It is not a good record. And it has been corrupted. There is all kinds of BS in there.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


There are things left out and changed, see this:

- Christians are considered to be children of God and born of God (John 1:12-13) so God was a Mother before the text was altered.
- Adam is referred to as son of God (Luke 3:38), Jesus as firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15) so Adam was born and Jesus was a reincarnation of Adam.
- Jesus was with God in the beginning (John 1:2) but there is no mentioning of Jesus in the Tanakh.
- After having created the humans on the sixth day in Genesis 1, God appears to have started over again by creating Adam and Eve in Genesis 2. This indicates that the text has been changed.
- Adam calling his wife Eve because She would become mother of all the living also suggests tampering.
- The Quran mentions the creation of Adam extensively but does not mention the creation of Eve, which may indicate that Eve was never created.
- The Quran mentions that Jesus and Adam were created in a similar way (Quran: 3:59). They were both born from a virgin.
- The repeated reference in the Gnostic texts of Mary Magdalene being loved by Jesus more than the others indicates that the Beloved Disciple in the Gospel of John was originally Mary Magdalene before the text was redacted.
- The last chapter of the gospel of John appears to be added later to suggest that the Beloved Disciple was John as the previous chapter already has closing lines (John 20:30-31).
- There apparently had been rumours that the Beloved Disciple had become immortal (John 21:23). If the Beloved Disciple was Mary Magdalene and if She was God then this would have made sense.
- The love of God Jesus was speaking of (John 17:23-26) therefore was the love of a Goddess for Her husband.
- John the Baptist talks in the Gospel (John 3:27-29) in terms of himself as a best man with the implication that Jesus the bridegroom is coming to meet his bride, but there is nothing specific to identify the bride (see also: Luke 5:34, Matt. 9:15).
- It was customary for a Jewish rabbi to be married and the apostles called him rabbi (Mark 11:21).
- The marriage described in the Gospel of John (John 2:2-8) could be the wedding of Jesus because at a Jewish wedding guests normally do not give orders.
- Jesus started doing miracles at this wedding, which may indicate that he was married to God.

Jesus is called Son of God because he was a reincarnation of Adam and Adam was a son of Eve. In the Quran Jesus is called Son of Mary, and coincidentally God was also named Mary like the mother of Jesus.

So, Jesus is probably going to marry God when he returns. Anyway, it makes more sense.

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Thanks again to whoever re-pinned this!
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I hope I am not intruding.

Jesus will not marry Jerusalem, nor will he marry The Church.

They have corrupted the scriptures.

I have figured out who he is going to marry.

But you probably will not believe me.

That is a shame, because if you believe me, we may be able to get things started.
 Quoting: niphtrique


Let me see... Should I believe you, or Jesus?

Sorry, but I'll choose Jesus, and His Holy Word over man everytime!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Jesus Holy Word in the scriptures was changed and most of them are not even IN the scriptures. It is not a good record. And it has been corrupted. There is all kinds of BS in there.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


There are things left out and changed, see this:

- Christians are considered to be children of God and born of God (John 1:12-13) so God was a Mother before the text was altered.
- Adam is referred to as son of God (Luke 3:38), Jesus as firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15) so Adam was born and Jesus was a reincarnation of Adam.
- Jesus was with God in the beginning (John 1:2) but there is no mentioning of Jesus in the Tanakh.
- After having created the humans on the sixth day in Genesis 1, God appears to have started over again by creating Adam and Eve in Genesis 2. This indicates that the text has been changed.
- Adam calling his wife Eve because She would become mother of all the living also suggests tampering.
- The Quran mentions the creation of Adam extensively but does not mention the creation of Eve, which may indicate that Eve was never created.
- The Quran mentions that Jesus and Adam were created in a similar way (Quran: 3:59). They were both born from a virgin.
- The repeated reference in the Gnostic texts of Mary Magdalene being loved by Jesus more than the others indicates that the Beloved Disciple in the Gospel of John was originally Mary Magdalene before the text was redacted.
- The last chapter of the gospel of John appears to be added later to suggest that the Beloved Disciple was John as the previous chapter already has closing lines (John 20:30-31).
- There apparently had been rumours that the Beloved Disciple had become immortal (John 21:23). If the Beloved Disciple was Mary Magdalene and if She was God then this would have made sense.
- The love of God Jesus was speaking of (John 17:23-26) therefore was the love of a Goddess for Her husband.
- John the Baptist talks in the Gospel (John 3:27-29) in terms of himself as a best man with the implication that Jesus the bridegroom is coming to meet his bride, but there is nothing specific to identify the bride (see also: Luke 5:34, Matt. 9:15).
- It was customary for a Jewish rabbi to be married and the apostles called him rabbi (Mark 11:21).
- The marriage described in the Gospel of John (John 2:2-8) could be the wedding of Jesus because at a Jewish wedding guests normally do not give orders.
- Jesus started doing miracles at this wedding, which may indicate that he was married to God.

So, Jesus is going to marry someone when he returns, and he probably will marry God. So for starters, any male individual claiming that he is God, is a fraud (some of them are on this message board).
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'Head' of the Church = Jesus Christ...already 'delivered'

'Body' of the Church = Believers in Jesus Christ...attached to the Head, but, not yet 'delivered'

'Great Tribulation' = a pressure, a pressing in...'birth canal'

A question for pre-trib hopefuls...what kind of pre-birth, partial abortion of a 'portion' of the 'body of Christ' are you referring to? How can a portion of the 'body' be divided BEFORE birth, and magically join the Head and wait for the REST of the butchered body to join them later?

Your theory just isn't scriptural. Too may Biblical passages have to be 'dismissed' in order to make a few verses fit YOUR plan?

If your looking down a row of 1000 fence posts, and, you see two or three posts out of alignment, do you move ALL the other posts to line up with the two or three posts OR do you adjust YOUR misinterpretation to line up with the WORD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23320653

Only believers in Christ, aka the "church", is Christ's Body. So there is no butchering or dividing.

We are also called the Bride of Christ, and Jesus said at the Last Supper that he was going to prepare a place for us and then return to receives us to himself. This parallels the Jewish wedding custom, after which we will be with him for 7 years to match the 7 days of the wedding feast.

Clearly, this is very scriptural, and I find anti-rapture views to be the ones dismissing scripture. But unlike you, I won't presume their motives for doing so.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


***THIS***
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'Head' of the Church = Jesus Christ...already 'delivered'

'Body' of the Church = Believers in Jesus Christ...attached to the Head, but, not yet 'delivered'

'Great Tribulation' = a pressure, a pressing in...'birth canal'

A question for pre-trib hopefuls...what kind of pre-birth, partial abortion of a 'portion' of the 'body of Christ' are you referring to? How can a portion of the 'body' be divided BEFORE birth, and magically join the Head and wait for the REST of the butchered body to join them later?

Your theory just isn't scriptural. Too may Biblical passages have to be 'dismissed' in order to make a few verses fit YOUR plan?

If your looking down a row of 1000 fence posts, and, you see two or three posts out of alignment, do you move ALL the other posts to line up with the two or three posts OR do you adjust YOUR misinterpretation to line up with the WORD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23320653

Only believers in Christ, aka the "church", is Christ's Body. So there is no butchering or dividing.

We are also called the Bride of Christ, and Jesus said at the Last Supper that he was going to prepare a place for us and then return to receives us to himself. This parallels the Jewish wedding custom, after which we will be with him for 7 years to match the 7 days of the wedding feast.

Clearly, this is very scriptural, and I find anti-rapture views to be the ones dismissing scripture. But unlike you, I won't presume their motives for doing so.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Where to begin...

First, I am NOT anti-rapture, I don't believe in PRE-escapism rapture.

If your interpretation is true, then, WHO are the SAINTS that the antichrist prevails over, AFTER you folks have 'left'?

Are all the infants and children going to be pre-tribbed with the 'body'? You honestly believe that NO ONE ELSE goes to Heaven after the pre-trib event?

Why would the AC need the mark, then? All those left are hell-bound, anyway?

Pre-trib 'delusion' is powerful, and, I know who sent it and why...


2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

2Th 2:9 Even Him, whose coming is AFTER the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

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 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Last night in the RITA Now board I did some calculations.
I came up with Rapture happening today somewhere between 11 AM and 11 PM Central time zone.
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Who needs evidence when there is faith.
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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

:cool48:
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Last night in the RITA Now board I did some calculations.
I came up with Rapture happening today somewhere between 11 AM and 11 PM Central time zone.
 Quoting: Intruth


Come on guys, seriously? This is ridiculous.
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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

cool48
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Last night in the RITA Now board I did some calculations.
I came up with Rapture happening today somewhere between 11 AM and 11 PM Central time zone.
 Quoting: Intruth


Come on guys, seriously? This is ridiculous.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I thought this was based on mathematical calculations n shit?
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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

:cool48:
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Last night in the RITA Now board I did some calculations.
I came up with Rapture happening today somewhere between 11 AM and 11 PM Central time zone.
 Quoting: Intruth


Come on guys, seriously? This is ridiculous.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


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First, I am NOT anti-rapture, I don't believe in PRE-escapism rapture.

If your interpretation is true, then, WHO are the SAINTS that the antichrist prevails over, AFTER you folks have 'left'?

Are all the infants and children going to be pre-tribbed with the 'body'? You honestly believe that NO ONE ELSE goes to Heaven after the pre-trib event?

Why would the AC need the mark, then? All those left are hell-bound, anyway?

Pre-trib 'delusion' is powerful, and, I know who sent it and why...


2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

2Th 2:9 Even Him, whose coming is AFTER the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23320653


1-- Escapism? Then Jesus taught us this "escapism", because it was he who said he'd come back for us, and Paul who said we'd be "snatched up" by Jesus, all BEFORE God rains down his wrath on the unbelieving world.

2-- If you had bothered to read what's been posted here in many places, you'd already know that "saints" and "elect" are not church-exclusive terms. They were used before us, and will be used after us.

3-- And you think I'm the one making erroneous presumptions, while you think I don't believe children will be raptured? Children cannot grasp rebellion against God, and this time of JUDGMENT thus does not apply to them.

4-- No, all those left are NOT hellbound. Many will be saved after the Rapture, but those who take the mark will be doomed, as the mark is a pledge of loyalty to the Beast and his kingdom.

5-- Delusion? Just for disagreeing with you? What arrogance!
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Who needs evidence when there is faith.
 Quoting: niphtrique


offtopic

There is "Plenty" of evidence, and I would be happy to debate that fact, at another time, on another thread.

This thread is about a possible Rosh Hashanah Rapture.
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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

:cool48:
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Last night in the RITA Now board I did some calculations.
I came up with Rapture happening today somewhere between 11 AM and 11 PM Central time zone.
 Quoting: Intruth


This was my reasoning.

Jesus was raised on the third day. Why not his bride. The question is third day from what? If you start the clock at sundown the 16th Jerusalem time 7PM, the second day would begin at sundown the 17th. The third would begin on sundown today, Tuesday which is a preferred wedding day would make sense. So Im thinking sometime between today at sundown till weddingsday morning Israeli time.
Convert that to central time which is 8 hours behind, That would put me at 11 AM-11 PM today.


Exodus 19


9 And the Lord said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the Lord.


10 And the Lord said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,


11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.


12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:


13 There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.


14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.


15 And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.


16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.


17 And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount.


18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.


19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.


20 And the Lord came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the Lord called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
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First, I am NOT anti-rapture, I don't believe in PRE-escapism rapture.

If your interpretation is true, then, WHO are the SAINTS that the antichrist prevails over, AFTER you folks have 'left'?

Are all the infants and children going to be pre-tribbed with the 'body'? You honestly believe that NO ONE ELSE goes to Heaven after the pre-trib event?

Why would the AC need the mark, then? All those left are hell-bound, anyway?

Pre-trib 'delusion' is powerful, and, I know who sent it and why...


2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

2Th 2:9 Even Him, whose coming is AFTER the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23320653


1-- Escapism? Then Jesus taught us this "escapism", because it was he who said he'd come back for us, and Paul who said we'd be "snatched up" by Jesus, all BEFORE God rains down his wrath on the unbelieving world.

2-- If you had bothered to read what's been posted here in many places, you'd already know that "saints" and "elect" are not church-exclusive terms. They were used before us, and will be used after us.

3-- And you think I'm the one making erroneous presumptions, while you think I don't believe children will be raptured? Children cannot grasp rebellion against God, and this time of JUDGMENT thus does not apply to them.

4-- No, all those left are NOT hellbound. Many will be saved after the Rapture, but those who take the mark will be doomed, as the mark is a pledge of loyalty to the Beast and his kingdom.

5-- Delusion? Just for disagreeing with you? What arrogance!
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


I'm not claiming to currently have white, undefiled garments
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There is "Plenty" of evidence, and I would be happy to debate that fact, at another time, on another thread.

This thread is about a possible Rosh Hashanah Rapture.
hf
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It is Ok with me.

But the Bridegroom Cometh!!! is the title of the thread.

So to me it seemed that I was on topic.
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'Head' of the Church = Jesus Christ...already 'delivered'

'Body' of the Church = Believers in Jesus Christ...attached to the Head, but, not yet 'delivered'

'Great Tribulation' = a pressure, a pressing in...'birth canal'

A question for pre-trib hopefuls...what kind of pre-birth, partial abortion of a 'portion' of the 'body of Christ' are you referring to? How can a portion of the 'body' be divided BEFORE birth, and magically join the Head and wait for the REST of the butchered body to join them later?

Your theory just isn't scriptural. Too may Biblical passages have to be 'dismissed' in order to make a few verses fit YOUR plan?

If your looking down a row of 1000 fence posts, and, you see two or three posts out of alignment, do you move ALL the other posts to line up with the two or three posts OR do you adjust YOUR misinterpretation to line up with the WORD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23320653

Only believers in Christ, aka the "church", is Christ's Body. So there is no butchering or dividing.

We are also called the Bride of Christ, and Jesus said at the Last Supper that he was going to prepare a place for us and then return to receives us to himself. This parallels the Jewish wedding custom, after which we will be with him for 7 years to match the 7 days of the wedding feast.

Clearly, this is very scriptural, and I find anti-rapture views to be the ones dismissing scripture. But unlike you, I won't presume their motives for doing so.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Where to begin...

First, I am NOT anti-rapture, I don't believe in PRE-escapism rapture.

If your interpretation is true, then, WHO are the SAINTS that the antichrist prevails over, AFTER you folks have 'left'?

Are all the infants and children going to be pre-tribbed with the 'body'? You honestly believe that NO ONE ELSE goes to Heaven after the pre-trib event?

Why would the AC need the mark, then? All those left are hell-bound, anyway?

Pre-trib 'delusion' is powerful, and, I know who sent it and why...


2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

2Th 2:9 Even Him, whose coming is AFTER the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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After the Pre-tribulation saints are taken away, there will be many who will realize what has happened and turn to the Lord. These individuals will be the Tribulation saints.

It is these people the AC will persue. Most who endure the tribulation will most likely be martyred similar to what we see radical muslims wanting to do to those who they contend blaspheme what they believe in today.

Those who burn in the lake of fire are those who throughout the Tribulation refuse to seek the Lord and remain un repentant.

I have read from several sources that those who are not called for the harpazo will not see that in the scriptures.
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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

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Last night in the RITA Now board I did some calculations.
I came up with Rapture happening today somewhere between 11 AM and 11 PM Central time zone.
 Quoting: Intruth


Come on guys, seriously? This is ridiculous.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lisa, If this is non-sense to you than fine, but this is serious to us that believe in a pre-trib Rapture. Especially on Rosh Hashanah. A 'Hight Watch" time.

Thank you for understanding!
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I'm not claiming to currently have white, undefiled garments
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Me neither. It's only Jesus' righteousness that gets anyone into heaven, so it matters not how righteous or backslidden a believer might be; they are part of the Body and Bride of Christ, and will be taken to the Bridal chamber and hidden away for 7 years. That's a promise from Jesus, and like any good "bride", I wait anxiously for his arrival, my "blessed hope".
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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I'm not claiming to currently have white, undefiled garments
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Me neither. It's only Jesus' righteousness that gets anyone into heaven, so it matters not how righteous or backslidden a believer might be; they are part of the Body and Bride of Christ, and will be taken to the Bridal chamber and hidden away for 7 years. That's a promise from Jesus, and like any good "bride", I wait anxiously for his arrival, OUR "blessed hope".
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I'm not claiming to currently have white, undefiled garments
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Me neither. It's only Jesus' righteousness that gets anyone into heaven, so it matters not how righteous or backslidden a believer might be; they are part of the Body and Bride of Christ, and will be taken to the Bridal chamber and hidden away for 7 years. That's a promise from Jesus, and like any good "bride", I wait anxiously for his arrival, my "blessed hope".
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Agreed...!
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I'm not claiming to currently have white, undefiled garments
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Me neither. It's only Jesus' righteousness that gets anyone into heaven, so it matters not how righteous or backslidden a believer might be; they are part of the Body and Bride of Christ, and will be taken to the Bridal chamber and hidden away for 7 years. That's a promise from Jesus, and like any good "bride", I wait anxiously for his arrival, OUR "blessed hope".
 Quoting: Keep2theCode

^fixed^
We can chat further TOMORROW...you'll still be here!
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No need to "correct", I simply stated that my hope is in what Jesus promised, and yes, of course he promised it to us all. Or did you think I only believed Jesus was coming for me?

Whether I'm here tomorrow or not, not even you can say. I'm not one of the date-setters; I'm just defending the pre-trib Rapture, since so many other people can't seem to remember the OP's focus. Jesus said, as many have already stated but were ignored, that "the Son of Man will come at a time you DO NOT expect him".

Clear enough? I hope so, because we won't be "chatting further" if you still go on with these false accusations and presumptions.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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"Be ready against the third day"
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I'm not claiming to currently have white, undefiled garments
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Me neither. It's only Jesus' righteousness that gets anyone into heaven, so it matters not how righteous or backslidden a believer might be; they are part of the Body and Bride of Christ, and will be taken to the Bridal chamber and hidden away for 7 years. That's a promise from Jesus, and like any good "bride", I wait anxiously for his arrival, OUR "blessed hope".
 Quoting: Keep2theCode

^fixed^
We can chat further TOMORROW...you'll still be here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23320653


No need to "correct", I simply stated that my hope is in what Jesus promised, and yes, of course he promised it to us all. Or did you think I only believed Jesus was coming for me?

Whether I'm here tomorrow or not, not even you can say. I'm not one of the date-setters; I'm just defending the pre-trib Rapture, since so many other people can't seem to remember the OP's focus. Jesus said, as many have already stated but were ignored, that "the Son of Man will come at a time you DO NOT expect him".

Clear enough? I hope so, because we won't be "chatting further" if you still go on with these false accusations and presumptions.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


'Shoot the questioner'...we are told to 'SEEK the TRUTH'...seek is an action verb? I guess you need to be a 'know-it-all' to get pre-tribbed?
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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

cool48
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Last night in the RITA Now board I did some calculations.
I came up with Rapture happening today somewhere between 11 AM and 11 PM Central time zone.
 Quoting: Intruth


This was my reasoning.

Jesus was raised on the third day. Why not his bride. The question is third day from what? If you start the clock at sundown the 16th Jerusalem time 7PM, the second day would begin at sundown the 17th. The third would begin on sundown today, Tuesday which is a preferred wedding day would make sense. So Im thinking sometime between today at sundown till weddingsday morning Israeli time.
Convert that to central time which is 8 hours behind, That would put me at 11 AM-11 PM today.


Exodus 19


9 And the Lord said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the Lord.


10 And the Lord said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,


11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.


12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:


13 There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.


14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.


15 And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.


16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.


17 And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount.


18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.


19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.


20 And the Lord came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the Lord called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
 Quoting: Intruth


Thats a good possibility, and you might be on to something. The only thing that I would question is the fact that Jesus fulfilled ALL of the spring Feast on the exact day... so considering that, I would think that Christ would fulfill ALL of the Fall Feast on the exact day, or days since Rosh Hashanah is a two day Feast. Either way, we shall soon see.

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I believe we've got just 4 hours left of Rosh Hashanah.

:cool48:
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Last night in the RITA Now board I did some calculations.
I came up with Rapture happening today somewhere between 11 AM and 11 PM Central time zone.
 Quoting: Intruth


Come on guys, seriously? This is ridiculous.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lisa, If this is non-sense to you than fine, but this is serious to us that believe in a pre-trib Rapture. Especially on Rosh Hashanah. A 'Hight Watch" time.

Thank you for understanding!
hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Are you guys looking for a rapture or are you looking for THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS?
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'Shoot the questioner'...we are told to 'SEEK the TRUTH'...seek is an action verb? I guess you need to be a 'know-it-all' to get pre-tribbed?
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Lol... like you haven't taken shots at me first. And it seems that it's YOU who think you know it all, as you keep going on about how deluded I am. Pot, meet kettle.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)

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