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Behold... The Bridegroom Cometh!!!

 
Rising Son
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Ron Reese-- tried to email him once just to politely ask a question that put doubt on his blood moon theory; he was a jerk about it

RITAN-- "encouraged to leave" by staff for merely linking to a site that critiqued Ron Reese

5doves-- heavy into dreams and visions that never, ever come true, but are continually recycled, and the calculations altered

Numerology can be interesting but it's been proven wrong so many times that I would have thought people had gotten the message by now. Same for dreams and visions; even when it takes outright denial to insist they weren't wrong, they go on to the next one as "it". Hopes are continually pumped up and deflated, dates are heralded and then abandoned. More study of the Feasts, the stars, the moon... one wonders if they have torn Paul's rebuke of such things from their Bibles.

Jesus said "the Son of Man will come at a time you do not expect him" and "as a thief in the night". The 10 Virgins parable is about the bridesmaids, not the Bride, who would never be excluded from her own wedding, even partially. Paul always wrote as if the Rapture could happen without warning, which lines up with Jesus' command to "keep watch". Watch for what? Signs. Signs where? Yes, some in the heavens, but also on earth, and it's those that give us the indication of the nearness of Jesus' return. The world blames Israel for everything, persecutes Christians, hates nationalism, is corrupt and evil to the core, and is definitely NOT expecting Jesus to return. He is coming soon, but not because of the Feasts or somebody's calculations.

PS: I wish people would stop with the date-setting, since Jesus won't come when he's expected. Srsly.
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I agree. I also believe that there will be many false prophets and impostors, as Jesus warned us about. These will be very perilous times for all of us.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

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Ron Reese-- tried to email him once just to politely ask a question that put doubt on his blood moon theory; he was a jerk about it

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Oh, you mean he actually responded to you? I never got a reply when I emailed him.

He really needs to stop putting these dates out there. I felt sorry for him at first, but since he keeps doing it over and over.
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Ron Reese-- tried to email him once just to politely ask a question that put doubt on his blood moon theory; he was a jerk about it

 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Oh, you mean he actually responded to you? I never got a reply when I emailed him.

He really needs to stop putting these dates out there. I felt sorry for him at first, but since he keeps doing it over and over.
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Yeah, go figure. But then I visited his site, and a board where he had been a member, and concluded that he's a raving lunatic (pun intended!).
[link to www.ronsraptureroom.blogspot.com]
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Ron Reese-- tried to email him once just to politely ask a question that put doubt on his blood moon theory; he was a jerk about it

 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Oh, you mean he actually responded to you? I never got a reply when I emailed him.

He really needs to stop putting these dates out there. I felt sorry for him at first, but since he keeps doing it over and over.
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Yeah, go figure. But then I visited his site, and a board where he had been a member, and concluded that he's a raving lunatic (pun intended!).
[link to www.ronsraptureroom.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


I"m pretty sure that is a parody site, I don't think that's the real ron reese. There is also a poster here from the UK that posts under the name of ron reese, but it's not really him. It's somebody pretending to be him, just making fun of him.

Sad really that people go to such great lengths to persecute someone else. I don't agree with Ron's stuff, but it's horrible to impersonate someone on the internet with the evil intent of making fun of them and slandering his character and name.
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I"m pretty sure that is a parody site, I don't think that's the real ron reese. There is also a poster here from the UK that posts under the name of ron reese, but it's not really him. It's somebody pretending to be him, just making fun of him.

Sad really that people go to such great lengths to persecute someone else. I don't agree with Ron's stuff, but it's horrible to impersonate someone on the internet with the evil intent of making fun of them and slandering his character and name.
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I dunno, same email... you would think that after all this time, the real one would have issued a disclaimer and contacted a lawyer to get the fake for defamation of character.
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You all are wasting your time attacking
Ron Reese. He is not who this came from.
Go to Five Doves and look for letters by Renee M. She said the Lord began speaking to her about this on December 2000.
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You all are wasting your time attacking
Ron Reese. He is not who this came from.
Go to Five Doves and look for letters by Renee M. She said the Lord began speaking to her about this on December 2000.
 Quoting: Intruth


RR has promoted this "blood moon" stuff and taken credit for it. He is therefore responsible and must be held to account. Sure, there are others, but RR's name was the one raised here.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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I"m pretty sure that is a parody site, I don't think that's the real ron reese. There is also a poster here from the UK that posts under the name of ron reese, but it's not really him. It's somebody pretending to be him, just making fun of him.

Sad really that people go to such great lengths to persecute someone else. I don't agree with Ron's stuff, but it's horrible to impersonate someone on the internet with the evil intent of making fun of them and slandering his character and name.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I dunno, same email... you would think that after all this time, the real one would have issued a disclaimer and contacted a lawyer to get the fake for defamation of character.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Well, the poster that pretends to be him lives in another country, so nothing you can do.

I don't believe that's his website, it's too ridiculous. Has to be a parody.
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The last day of the Feast of Tabernacles is known as the LAST GREAT DAY OF THE LORD!!! IT IS THE DAY THE LAST TRUMPET SOUNDS!!! Oct 7--8, 2012, is certainly a day to be watching!!! What an extremely exciting day to be alive and to be a Biblical watchman and to be anxiously waiting and expecting the Soon Return of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ! BE READY!

Maranatha!

The above quoted from Ron Reese.

AMEN! and Maranatha!

Intruth, I think this would make a great new thread, since Rosh Hashanah is passed.

hf
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Yes it would! I am still going threw the videos and info. You are welcome to post it if you want. whoever posts it in a new thread will have to be thick skinned. You will get a lot of backlash. Other places to look is on Five doves and Ritan. They have a thread on it going and are picking at it without doing much research. I there is any truth to this, we dont have much time left. It seems to fit most of the intel coming out and news events.
Maranatha!
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I just thought I'd suggest you making a thread. I figured
this thread will lose steam now, and a lot of people won't see pg. 14.

I read at both of the sites you mentioned. I also used to post at Ritan and Rapture Flight To Heaven, now I just read at them.
 Quoting: Cassie :-)

OK Just posted the new thread.
All those interested in it , try bumping it till it gets noticed.
Thread: Behold The BrideGroom Cometh Part II ^^The 21 day Delay^^
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Unless John ch 17 SPEAKS TO YOU like a note from a parent or sibling, then you are merely playing at this whole Christian thing.

You either Know God Personally and Directly, or you don't...

Knowing HIM, (if you do), as John Witnesses in 1st Epistle 2:20-27, "... Because you have an Unction From The Holy One, you Know all thing", and "You need no man to teach/instruct you"...

But you folk cannot bring yourself to commit self Unto The Father's Care & Guidance. You play at this shit, and your actions you make pretense at on HIS Behalf are false and anti-Christ.

All who are not In-HIM (per John 17, Ezekiel 36 Born-Agains) who disseminate their conjecture, false "words" (as in "Jesus told me this"), and rationalization are liars who Know HIM not. The efforts may seem well intended, but confusion is the result. Billy Graham is the master of Laodicean confusion. Pity he could never surrender self Unto The Father...

Don't KNOW John 17 as descriptive of your life? Then you are one Christ Jesus will not recognize; a worker of iniquity who will hear and be Told: "Depart from me, I Know you not!"...

This Witness Given just before HE was taken at gaethsemane...
HIS last Witness to HIS Disciples.
A Witness of Encouragement and Strengthening, Given also to Those Who Will Come To Believe from their witness and testimony...

This is Jesus' Prayer For HIS Remnant, Given In Trust Unto HIM BY The Father, and Returned Unto HIM BY Christ Jesus:

John 17
1. These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.


11. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23. I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
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Note John 17 verse 15 specifically.

Recall that Jesus IS Praying, Giving Witness To HIS Disciples Of The Father's Plan and Will For Them and All Who Will Come Unto HIM in future...

Verse 15 denies God has any intent to remove any of HIS People from the world, (there is no Accord for the rapture-lie). Jesus Prays/Assures HIS People They will be Preserved Against The Evil. All Evil...

No rapture and there is no evil can affect those who are Born-Again and Live In God's Accord!

John 17
15. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.



If you Know HIM, are Born-Again; you need no man to teach or instruct you.

God The Father answers your questions, God The Holy Spirit Guides you in daily life; Christ Jesus is Known and present with you as you Dwell In The Father. Jesus IS The Way Unto The Father...

Not much longer to be able to manifest your heart Unto God.

If you claim to Love HIM as much as you make pretense of, why not take action and give HIM your life?
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Note John 17 verse 15 specifically.

...

John 17
15. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

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How do you harmonize John 17 with John 14:

"... Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also..." John 14:1-4

[link to studybible.info]

peace,
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From Matthew ch 13...

13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed;

lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.




Hearts Waxed Gross...
Blocked, clogged; non or barely functioning.

Have to hear The Gospel with your heart
Know innately that God IS Worthy of your Complete Trust and Submission.


If you were Born-Again per Ezekiel 36 you'd Know The Father and The Son. You would also have witness to share.

No tickee, no laundry...
Christ Jesus either Knows you, or you aren't Born-Again.

Many gonna hear, "Depart from ME you who work iniquity, I Know you not!", because they have expectations and assumptions; but never took action to Come Unto The Father.

Hebrews 12 Bastards
Laodicean Age Christians

The specifics don't really matter, except to them personally.
All alienated from God
All with "hearts waxed gross"
All living their lives by rationalization and self-will.

Soon, everything changes.
Many living in dejection and fear because the rapture-lie they embraced was just that and The Age of Faith ended before they could decide to take action and Lift Up The Son Of Man by making their surrender...

Not much time left, or does the rapture-lie mean more to you than Trusting God? Such is proof of a "waxed heart"...
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Thank You Lester, the truth is a bitter pill. The roots of the lies that deceive run deep to near the very foundation.

Michael.
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My dearest friend,
I found you here, cuz you asked for me to do such. My story is hard to "hear" as it was to live. I do *only* as what I am asked.... NOTHING more, and NOTHING less. Bitter pills to swallow.

My reasoning for being here is because a bretheren asked that of me.... otherwise, I would have never found this thread.

GOD loves YOU that keeps HIW word, HIS news,and awaits... patiently.

I m NOTHING... and NOBODY......
unworthy of anything at all...

I do have the faith of that mustard seed and MORE..
NOBODY here can burden my story
so it was told
.....
I am sorry.
I am on;u a lowly servant.......
and UNWORTHY
flower
~~Much Peace, Love, and Light~~Always
Concerning life and death: I embrace both equally!
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and we're all fixing to get screwed.
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and we're all fixing to get screwed.
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Well, the poster that pretends to be him lives in another country, so nothing you can do.

I don't believe that's his website, it's too ridiculous. Has to be a parody.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Pretty sure RR lives in England, and so does this alleged fake. From what I've heard of others there, it's even easier to prosecute someone for saying unpleasant things online.

EDIT: The RR who runs thefinal7yearsareherenow.com uses a domain hosted in California, but it's a private registration so his personal address is unknown. The crazy site owner of [link to www.ronsraptureroom.blogspot.com] gives the US as the address.So I don't know how you know the "pretender" lives in a different country from the "real" RR.

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forever yours, zejzl

thanks glp

we are shining, we are lumnious
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Well, the poster that pretends to be him lives in another country, so nothing you can do.

I don't believe that's his website, it's too ridiculous. Has to be a parody.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Pretty sure RR lives in England, and so does this alleged fake. From what I've heard of others there, it's even easier to prosecute someone for saying unpleasant things online.

EDIT: The RR who runs thefinal7yearsareherenow.com uses a domain hosted in California, but it's a private registration so his personal address is unknown. The crazy site owner of [link to www.ronsraptureroom.blogspot.com] gives the US as the address.So I don't know how you know the "pretender" lives in a different country from the "real" RR.
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Oh......I don't know then. It's a mystery for sure.

His comments were so outrageous that I was sure it had to be a fake.

If that really is him..........OMG!
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Jesus sure brings out the blah blah in you...Sheeeesh! Nice avatar pic Lisa. It's a combination of the babylonian symbol for satan and a coptic symbol of lust. Cooool!
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... The RR who runs thefinal7yearsareherenow.com uses a domain hosted in California, but it's a private registration so his personal address is unknown. The crazy site owner of [link to www.ronsraptureroom.blogspot.com] gives the US as the address.So I don't know how you know the "pretender" lives in a different country from the "real" RR.

Oh......I don't know then. It's a mystery for sure.

His comments were so outrageous that I was sure it had to be a fake.

If that really is him..........OMG!
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More: [link to falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com]

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Jesus sure brings out the blah blah in you...Sheeeesh! Nice avatar pic Lisa. It's a combination of the babylonian symbol for satan and a coptic symbol of lust. Cooool!
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Hey thanks, I like it too!

I made mashed potatoes this morning and if you look really closely, turn to the right a little, and then do a cartwheel really fast, you can see a pentagram in the upper right hand corner of the bowl. It only worked while covering my right eye tho and looking at it with my left eye only, with my left leg slightly bent.

But, I saw it!!!!!



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The video is interesting enough, and I've heard/seen the material before. But I think there is too much willingness of this view to force-fit or get a little sloppy with timing.

When the guy says that the blood moons came after the 1967 war rather than during it, yet served as a sign for it anyway, that raises a red flag for me. He goes on to rest another theory on this tenuous one, being that the Rapture might also happen before the sign. This is not acceptable to me; it's either a sign or it isn't, and there's no basis or justification for allowing signs to follow events when they're supposed to mark them.

But the signs are for Israel, not the church, and match what affects Israel. That is, the fall feasts point to the Tribulation, the start of which is not necessarily identical with the Rapture. So the Rapture is still without a required sign, yet the Tribulation will start according to the fall feasts.

I have to conclude that the fall feasts are therefore the latest the Rapture can happen, whereas the earliest is right now. This is imminence, a signless event that happens "when you do NOT expect".
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all of this is interesting. A blown referee call in an NFL game has garnered more attention
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Behold... The Bridegroom Cometh!!!


Let's hope so, so all these false christs can reap big time!
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The soul is the thing God created to be burnt alive forever...thats why he made it immortal.

He has TRILLIONS of souls to torture forever..and he keeps only a few for himself for self worship and grovelling purposes.

He NEEDS to be told how GREAT he is by the 5% he kept out of the dungeoun of doom...so he can happily torture to his feindish hearts content the 95% he created only and simply to TORTURE forever.

THAT is why he is so worthy of all praise.
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you are an abomination aren't you...

indeed
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A reading of Jesus's own words below end the debate about the rapture. It is AFTER the tribulation. Very clear. The rapture is at the end, and the "elect of God" are here during the tribulation.

Matthew Chapter 24

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”


Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
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The Elect are the 144,000 and not the church. The church isn't even mentioned during the tribulation period. Why? Because we are in Heaven!

If there wasn't an escape (rapture) Jesus wouldn't have told us to watch and pray this...

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

hf
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You will escape the wrath because the wrath is the destruction of the earth by fire, as in verse 33, it's at the end when Jesus returns at the last trump. Jesus doesn't come twice, only once. He comes at the end, takes His people away and destroys the earth.

But, we do not escape the tribulation. Jesus's own words in Luke 21 tell us that we will be here. He even gives instructions about don't worry what to say when hauled before authorities, don't follow the false christ, flee to the mountains,
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Luke 21:
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


Did you notice the word 'BEGIN' to come to pass?

You can stay around for the trib if you want Lisa... as for me, I'm praying to be counted worthy to escape 'ALL these things' that shall soon come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

abduct.
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you've already failed that part and you just don't realize it yet
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The Elect are the 144,000 and not the church. The church isn't even mentioned during the tribulation period. Why? Because we are in Heaven!

If there wasn't an escape (rapture) Jesus wouldn't have told us to watch and pray this...

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

hf
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You will escape the wrath because the wrath is the destruction of the earth by fire, as in verse 33, it's at the end when Jesus returns at the last trump. Jesus doesn't come twice, only once. He comes at the end, takes His people away and destroys the earth.

But, we do not escape the tribulation. Jesus's own words in Luke 21 tell us that we will be here. He even gives instructions about don't worry what to say when hauled before authorities, don't follow the false christ, flee to the mountains,
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Luke 21:
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


Did you notice the word 'BEGIN' to come to pass?


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Right! When all these things START to happen, you know it's near.

It does not say "Before these things happen", it says "When these things start to happen".

That means we are going to be here to see them happen....lol
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I remember when you were calling for the Rapture Lisa

I am so glad you've reapprised your logic in this regard

welcome aboard

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what on earth makes you think that just because revelation hadn't been WRITTEN yet that it wasn't already part of Gods plan? the entire bible is about prophecy. God knew before the start of this earth Age exactly how it would all go down. are you nuz? much of the bible IS prophetic, he mentioned what Christ would say on the cross 800 years or so before Christ was even born.

good grief, your argument is lame and weak
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everyone in this world will be in spiritual bodies during the Millennium, even the most hardened criminals.

tis their flesh bodies that will be destroyed in the wrath, they will still be made to participate in the time of teaching to follow. death of the body has little to do with death of the soul. no one suffers death of the soul until the END of the Millennium Age

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