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Behold... The Bridegroom Cometh!!!

 
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John 14:1-3
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.


1 Thess 4:16-18
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


NIV? is trash

"17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, (((((-NOT CLOUDS-))))))

the correct translation is AIR...AIR translates to "breath of life"...it means our spiritual body.......

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be ((((transfigured) together with Christ in our spiritual body. for Christ is in the 4th dimension, and so will be in our spiritual body in the 4th dimension....FLESH CANNOT ENTER INTO THE 4TH DIMENSION....

YOU RAPTURE DOOLOOPS...HOW DO YOU EXPLAINS AWAY YOUR FLESH BODY THAT CANNOT ENTER INTO THE 4TH DIMENSION????????????

there is no Rapture...this myth was started by a witch in 1832....get over it...it's a lie
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1 Cor 15:50-52
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


The above scripture is ALWAYS taken out of context. Show me where Paul talks about that happening during a rapture? Does he say we will be removed? Does he say we will be taken away? Does he say anything of the sort? Nope. He says we will be changed. That's it. This verse fits perfectly with Revelation when the martyred will rise wat Jesus' return and we reign here with him for 1,000 years.
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The mother-lode of pre-trib Rapture documents:
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Seriously. All I’m getting is “Blocked plug in”. Why is it pinned?
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Because I pinned it! If you don't like it just click off!

Better yet.... Accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior and be saved. Time is short!
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So, out of pure, natural curiosity I have questions. Please do not take any of this out of context, these are simply questions to stimulate a good-lighthearted discussion; no hate, for we are one.

Question: do you love your Muslim Brother and Sister just as you love your Christian Brother and Sister?

Would you die for one of them as you would (hopefully) die for a person of your faith? [Remember here that the Christ Jesus of Nazareth gave his life for us, and we are to live a life like the Christ Jesus of Nazareth]

Hypothetically speaking: if your people were to be systematically slain for the "Greater Good," would you allow it? What would you do? Would you stand up or lie down? Would you have stood up in protest at the slaughter of the jewish people during the Holocaust, or kept quiet? Judaism is only a baby-step from Christianity (in fact, Christianity is the product of Judaism--well, one of its many sects (Essene to be exact)). Then, if you were to take into account the fact that the Islamic faith was yet another product (no matter how far separated, it is still a product) of the Abrahamic belief system--a monotheistic Patriarchy hell-bent on an Apocalypse.

So...my point:

However you choose to answer these questions means nothing to me for I know where I stand. However, I recommend that you (and any person who reads this for that matter) reflect upon your answers for a moment. It's worth a moment of your time. Trust me, I am practiced in the art of wasting moments. From my experience, moments deserve your full attention. Don't miss a moment of this Life, it's the only one we have here; and I don't know about you all but I really like it here. I long for the day to return Home, but until that day I will keep enjoying His Work.
 Quoting: PhiGuy 21368832


First of all, the Muslims are not my brothers and sisters. My brothers and sisters are in Christ Jesus. We are told to love our enemies, thats true, but would I lay down my life for my enemy? Honest answer- probally not.
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there's NO pre tribulation Rapture
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They'll figure that out, when it's too late! Foolish virgins...hf
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GREAT READ ON THE RAPTURE..

Is it possible we can find the missing information we are looking for as to the exact season and timing of when the Bridegroom returns for His Bride the true Church? I think so.

Lets look closely at the wording and symbolism found in Joel, Exodus and Joshua.

Joel chapter 2. The theme here is the Salvation of Israel during the "day of the Lord" which is the 7 year tribulation period. However, starting in verse 15 we find this curious command. "Blow the Trumpet in Zion, Consecrate a fast. Call a sacred assembly; Gather the people, Sanctify the congregation, Assemble the Elders, gather the children and the nursing babes, LET THE BRIDEGROOM GO OUT FORM HIS CHAMBER, AND THE BRIDE FROM HER DRESSING ROOM."

When does this all happen? Look at verse 28 and 29. "......And the latter rain in the FIRST month. The threshing floors shall be full of wheat and the vats shall overflow with new wine and oil."

OK, so what are some of the things we can see here as it relates to the Rapture? First of all this will happen during the time of fall harvest of the wheat, wine and olives. Next, it will be in the first month of the Jewish calendar that relates to the Fall harvest. That would have to be Tishri which is the month that starts with Rosh HaShannah.
Next we see that the Bride has been sanctified (set apart for the Bridegroom) and will be called to a sacred assembly (can you say "coronation ball") and that not only the assembly with its Elders, but also all the children and infants. (God will not forsake the children). The sound of children in heaven will be everywhere. What joy!

The rest of Joel chapter two and into chapter 3 talks about the battle of Gog and Magog (verse 20), the battle of Armageddon (3:2) and a specific time of when the sun will turn dark and the moon red which sound like events that happen in 2015 with the eclipses on Passover and Yom Kippur.

Now lets look at some cross references of this Old Testament prophecy and see what patterns God has put in His Word for us to find.

Look at Exodus chapter 19 starting in verse 10...."Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Go to the people and SANCTIFY them TODAY AND TOMORROW and let them wash their clothes. (symbolic of righteousness), and, LET THEM BE READY FOR THE THIRD DAY. FOR THE THIRD DAY THE LORD WILL COME DOWN.......Vs 13b WHEN THE TRUMPET SOUNDS LONG, THEY SHALL COME NEAR THE MOUNTAIN (where God is). V-16 Then it came to pass on the THIRD day IN THE MORNING, that there were lightnings, thunderings, and a thick CLOUD on the mountain and the SOUND OF A TRUMPET was loud.....

This event recording in Exodus was when God came down from His throne to take Israel as His wife. He made a covenant with her (corporate Israel) and they agreed to it. Don't you find it revealing that the same symbols, patterns and descriptions for this marriage covenant event is the same as we find in the New Testament regarding the
Bride of Christ.

i would have to conclude that the rapture will take place in the same way with the same timing and instruments as the first marriage. If that is correct, then we can know for sure that we are in the season of the Rapture starting this next Sunday night the 16th of Sept. And, we should be given a three day "shout out" by the Lord or His messenger. (actually only two days because the third day we are taken up in the morning)

By the way, we find this same pattern in Joshua chapter 3 when the children of Israel were about to pass over the Jordan river and into their PROMISED LAND.

CONCLUSION. If 2012 is the year, then we are only a few hours or days away from the Shout Out.

Hoping this is it.

[link to raptureintheairnow.com]
Susie

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Seriously. All I’m getting is “Blocked plug in”. Why is it pinned?
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Because I pinned it! If you don't like it just click off!

Better yet.... Accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior and be saved. Time is short!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


ohyeah

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You guys and girls are not going to like it - but, watch for a documentary being released on September 28, 2012...

It is called ceasars messiah...

The most in depth study ever undertaken about the writings, accounts, and the creation of the jesus character...

It tells you exactly who created this character...

I am looking forward to it - should lay to rest many fallacies...

The only thing that disturbs me - it is right on the heels of the muslim fiasco...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23395194


And I suppose you will believe it. That is just what Satan wants you to believe. The truth is, there is plenty of evidence of Jesus outside of the bible.

You can start here...


DUST TO GLORY!!!
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The Living God who made you wants to become your husband. Will you wear a true TO HIM alone wedding garment. Stop having other husbands.


Come out of her my people.


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Fine- than you can stay here. Enjoy the Tribulation!
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I've always wanted to see a Manticore.

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GREAT READ ON THE RAPTURE..

Is it possible we can find the missing information we are looking for as to the exact season and timing of when the Bridegroom returns for His Bride the true Church? I think so.

Lets look closely at the wording and symbolism found in Joel, Exodus and Joshua.

Joel chapter 2. The theme here is the Salvation of Israel during the "day of the Lord" which is the 7 year tribulation period. However, starting in verse 15 we find this curious command. "Blow the Trumpet in Zion, Consecrate a fast. Call a sacred assembly; Gather the people, Sanctify the congregation, Assemble the Elders, gather the children and the nursing babes, LET THE BRIDEGROOM GO OUT FORM HIS CHAMBER, AND THE BRIDE FROM HER DRESSING ROOM."

When does this all happen? Look at verse 28 and 29. "......And the latter rain in the FIRST month. The threshing floors shall be full of wheat and the vats shall overflow with new wine and oil."

OK, so what are some of the things we can see here as it relates to the Rapture? First of all this will happen during the time of fall harvest of the wheat, wine and olives. Next, it will be in the first month of the Jewish calendar that relates to the Fall harvest. That would have to be Tishri which is the month that starts with Rosh HaShannah.
Next we see that the Bride has been sanctified (set apart for the Bridegroom) and will be called to a sacred assembly (can you say "coronation ball") and that not only the assembly with its Elders, but also all the children and infants. (God will not forsake the children). The sound of children in heaven will be everywhere. What joy!

The rest of Joel chapter two and into chapter 3 talks about the battle of Gog and Magog (verse 20), the battle of Armageddon (3:2) and a specific time of when the sun will turn dark and the moon red which sound like events that happen in 2015 with the eclipses on Passover and Yom Kippur.

Now lets look at some cross references of this Old Testament prophecy and see what patterns God has put in His Word for us to find.

Look at Exodus chapter 19 starting in verse 10...."Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Go to the people and SANCTIFY them TODAY AND TOMORROW and let them wash their clothes. (symbolic of righteousness), and, LET THEM BE READY FOR THE THIRD DAY. FOR THE THIRD DAY THE LORD WILL COME DOWN.......Vs 13b WHEN THE TRUMPET SOUNDS LONG, THEY SHALL COME NEAR THE MOUNTAIN (where God is). V-16 Then it came to pass on the THIRD day IN THE MORNING, that there were lightnings, thunderings, and a thick CLOUD on the mountain and the SOUND OF A TRUMPET was loud.....

This event recording in Exodus was when God came down from His throne to take Israel as His wife. He made a covenant with her (corporate Israel) and they agreed to it. Don't you find it revealing that the same symbols, patterns and descriptions for this marriage covenant event is the same as we find in the New Testament regarding the
Bride of Christ.

i would have to conclude that the rapture will take place in the same way with the same timing and instruments as the first marriage. If that is correct, then we can know for sure that we are in the season of the Rapture starting this next Sunday night the 16th of Sept. And, we should be given a three day "shout out" by the Lord or His messenger. (actually only two days because the third day we are taken up in the morning)

By the way, we find this same pattern in Joshua chapter 3 when the children of Israel were about to pass over the Jordan river and into their PROMISED LAND.

CONCLUSION. If 2012 is the year, then we are only a few hours or days away from the Shout Out.

Hoping this is it.

[link to raptureintheairnow.com]
 Quoting: christian


cool34
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GREAT READ ON THE RAPTURE..

Is it possible we can find the missing information we are looking for as to the exact season and timing of when the Bridegroom returns for His Bride the true Church? I think so.

Lets look closely at the wording and symbolism found in Joel, Exodus and Joshua.

Joel chapter 2. The theme here is the Salvation of Israel during the "day of the Lord" which is the 7 year tribulation period. However, starting in verse 15 we find this curious command. "Blow the Trumpet in Zion, Consecrate a fast. Call a sacred assembly; Gather the people, Sanctify the congregation, Assemble the Elders, gather the children and the nursing babes, LET THE BRIDEGROOM GO OUT FORM HIS CHAMBER, AND THE BRIDE FROM HER DRESSING ROOM."

When does this all happen? Look at verse 28 and 29. "......And the latter rain in the FIRST month. The threshing floors shall be full of wheat and the vats shall overflow with new wine and oil."

OK, so what are some of the things we can see here as it relates to the Rapture? First of all this will happen during the time of fall harvest of the wheat, wine and olives. Next, it will be in the first month of the Jewish calendar that relates to the Fall harvest. That would have to be Tishri which is the month that starts with Rosh HaShannah.
Next we see that the Bride has been sanctified (set apart for the Bridegroom) and will be called to a sacred assembly (can you say "coronation ball") and that not only the assembly with its Elders, but also all the children and infants. (God will not forsake the children). The sound of children in heaven will be everywhere. What joy!

The rest of Joel chapter two and into chapter 3 talks about the battle of Gog and Magog (verse 20), the battle of Armageddon (3:2) and a specific time of when the sun will turn dark and the moon red which sound like events that happen in 2015 with the eclipses on Passover and Yom Kippur.

Now lets look at some cross references of this Old Testament prophecy and see what patterns God has put in His Word for us to find.

Look at Exodus chapter 19 starting in verse 10...."Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Go to the people and SANCTIFY them TODAY AND TOMORROW and let them wash their clothes. (symbolic of righteousness), and, LET THEM BE READY FOR THE THIRD DAY. FOR THE THIRD DAY THE LORD WILL COME DOWN.......Vs 13b WHEN THE TRUMPET SOUNDS LONG, THEY SHALL COME NEAR THE MOUNTAIN (where God is). V-16 Then it came to pass on the THIRD day IN THE MORNING, that there were lightnings, thunderings, and a thick CLOUD on the mountain and the SOUND OF A TRUMPET was loud.....

This event recording in Exodus was when God came down from His throne to take Israel as His wife. He made a covenant with her (corporate Israel) and they agreed to it. Don't you find it revealing that the same symbols, patterns and descriptions for this marriage covenant event is the same as we find in the New Testament regarding the
Bride of Christ.

i would have to conclude that the rapture will take place in the same way with the same timing and instruments as the first marriage. If that is correct, then we can know for sure that we are in the season of the Rapture starting this next Sunday night the 16th of Sept. And, we should be given a three day "shout out" by the Lord or His messenger. (actually only two days because the third day we are taken up in the morning)

By the way, we find this same pattern in Joshua chapter 3 when the children of Israel were about to pass over the Jordan river and into their PROMISED LAND.

CONCLUSION. If 2012 is the year, then we are only a few hours or days away from the Shout Out.

Hoping this is it.

[link to raptureintheairnow.com]
 Quoting: christian


cool34
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...



MAY THE LORD HEAR THE CRIES OF HIS PEOPLE AS WE WAIT ANXIOUSLY AND PATIENTLY FOR THE BRIDEGROOM!!!
Susie

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You guys and girls are not going to like it - but, watch for a documentary being released on September 28, 2012...

It is called ceasars messiah...

The most in depth study ever undertaken about the writings, accounts, and the creation of the jesus character...

It tells you exactly who created this character...

I am looking forward to it - should lay to rest many fallacies...

The only thing that disturbs me - it is right on the heels of the muslim fiasco...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23395194


And I suppose you will believe it. That is just what Satan wants you to believe. The truth is, there is plenty of evidence of Jesus outside of the bible.

You can start here...


 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I will be watching with a very discerning eye...

But, in response - there is plenty of evidence, that this character is a literary creation...
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Are you ready for a Rosh Hashanah wedding???



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Thanks for officially telling us when the rapture is NOT happening.First of all if people expect it..it's not gonna happen.

And secondly there is no true evidence of pre trib rapture in the bible.
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Q: is OP quoting out of context

= no

Your 5 year old self is the way back?

= yes

Unless ye be converted as a little child

( you won't have the required components of identity )

The entire Law & message is summed up in?

Love

Small word, totality of meaning

Me?

Think you may know...

: )
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You guys and girls are not going to like it - but, watch for a documentary being released on September 28, 2012...

It is called ceasars messiah...

The most in depth study ever undertaken about the writings, accounts, and the creation of the jesus character...

It tells you exactly who created this character...

I am looking forward to it - should lay to rest many fallacies...

The only thing that disturbs me - it is right on the heels of the muslim fiasco...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23395194


And I suppose you will believe it. That is just what Satan wants you to believe. The truth is, there is plenty of evidence of Jesus outside of the bible.

You can start here...


 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I will be watching with a very discerning eye...

But, in response - there is plenty of evidence, that this character is a literary creation...
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Not to those of us He's touched and revealed Himself to.

No, we're not special. We are (in my case anyway) the least of these. We're the sick. We're the pathetic and unlovable.

At least in my case.

Oh, God. Please save us. Even those of us who REALLY don't deserve it.
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You guys and girls are not going to like it - but, watch for a documentary being released on September 28, 2012...

It is called ceasars messiah...

The most in depth study ever undertaken about the writings, accounts, and the creation of the jesus character...

It tells you exactly who created this character...

I am looking forward to it - should lay to rest many fallacies...

The only thing that disturbs me - it is right on the heels of the muslim fiasco...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23395194


And I suppose you will believe it. That is just what Satan wants you to believe. The truth is, there is plenty of evidence of Jesus outside of the bible.

You can start here...


 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I will be watching with a very discerning eye...

But, in response - there is plenty of evidence, that this character is a literary creation...
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Not all evidence is reliable.
Loving souls, starving trolls
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You guys and girls are not going to like it - but, watch for a documentary being released on September 28, 2012...

It is called ceasars messiah...

The most in depth study ever undertaken about the writings, accounts, and the creation of the jesus character...

It tells you exactly who created this character...

I am looking forward to it - should lay to rest many fallacies...

The only thing that disturbs me - it is right on the heels of the muslim fiasco...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23395194


And I suppose you will believe it. That is just what Satan wants you to believe. The truth is, there is plenty of evidence of Jesus outside of the bible.

You can start here...


 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I will be watching with a very discerning eye...

But, in response - there is plenty of evidence, that this character is a literary creation...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23395194

Not all evidence is reliable.
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Of course not - that is why you view everything with a very discerning eye...
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I hope I'm ready and worthy !!:pray:

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Me too ! :pray: red_heartred_heart
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Hey, believers, don't worry about being "worthy". Our worthiness doesn't come from us, but from Jesus. If we're in Jesus we are worthy. :-)
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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He will become the whole earths husband..:)

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He will become the whole earths husband..:)
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No.
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He will become the whole earths husband..:)
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No.
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eventually
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Eventually he will dwell in the hearts of all the people, and they will know HIM without men's teachings...it has already begun and there is no stopping the Kingdom of God within mankind.


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