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Behold... The Bridegroom Cometh!!!

 
Troubled Waters... (OP)

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Weather or not its this year, every Rosh Hashana should be a dress rehearsal for the real thing to be fullfilled any year now. Any yes we had this watch this time last year as well.
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I agree... and yes I remember feeling this same way last year. Hope this one is the REAL DEAL!
hf
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First of all, the Muslims are not my brothers and sisters. My brothers and sisters are in Christ Jesus. We are told to love our enemies, thats true, but would I lay down my life for my enemy? Honest answer- probally not.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You're right, muslims are not our "brothers and sisters". Other Christians and the Messianic Jewish people are our brothers and sisters.

Everyone else is our "neighbor".

Big difference between a brother and a neighbor.

hf
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First of all, the Muslims are not my brothers and sisters. My brothers and sisters are in Christ Jesus. We are told to love our enemies, thats true, but would I lay down my life for my enemy? Honest answer- probally not.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You're right, muslims are not our "brothers and sisters". Other Christians and the Messianic Jewish people are our brothers and sisters.

Everyone else is our "neighbor".

Big difference between a brother and a neighbor.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



Exactly!!!
hf
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First of all, the Muslims are not my brothers and sisters. My brothers and sisters are in Christ Jesus. We are told to love our enemies, thats true, but would I lay down my life for my enemy? Honest answer- probally not.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You're right, muslims are not our "brothers and sisters". Other Christians and the Messianic Jewish people are our brothers and sisters.

Everyone else is our "neighbor".

Big difference between a brother and a neighbor.

hf
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100% correct :)
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It won't happen until the 7th trumpet.......right before the wrath is poured out.

Sorry.
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You're welcome to your opinion Lisa- I just disagree.

Either way, Jesus is coming, and He's coming soon!

:cool8:
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I hope I'm wrong.

hf
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here's my fav study on the harpazo.



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Thread: DOW Drop 777.68....4 Years Later....HERE WE ARE!!! Rosh Hashanah 2012 RAPTURE.
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It won't happen until the 7th trumpet.......right before the wrath is poured out.

Sorry.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You're welcome to your opinion Lisa- I just disagree.

Either way, Jesus is coming, and He's coming soon!

cool8
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I hope I'm wrong.

hf
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 Quoting: Intruth


Well, I don't know who scotty is, but I will share with you what happened to me.

Near the end of January, this year, I started a 3 day fasting session so I could hear an answer from the Lord about the rapture.

It was the 3rd day of my fast, I was just laying in bed, reading the Bible and went into a long and deep prayer time. I was asking the Lord about the rapture because people were setting dates and talking about those dates and it was stressing me out. I just wanted Him to tell me because I just wanted to know the truth.

This is what I heard, it was the longest word I've ever gotten and it was very clear.

"At the 7th trump, the dead in Christ will rise first. Then you will be taken."

It kept repeating over and over again, and it was absolutely definite.

I"m going to believe the Lord over Scotty.....lol. Sorry.

Of course, I'm only human and I"m faulty and imperfect. I hope that I'm wrong on this, but that's what I heard and I know I heard it loud and clear.
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A reading of Jesus's own words below end the debate about the rapture. It is AFTER the tribulation. Very clear. The rapture is at the end, and the "elect of God" are here during the tribulation.

Matthew Chapter 24

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”


Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
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You're welcome to your opinion Lisa- I just disagree.

Either way, Jesus is coming, and He's coming soon!

cool8
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I hope I'm wrong.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


 Quoting: Intruth


Well, I don't know who scotty is, but I will share with you what happened to me.

Near the end of January, this year, I started a 3 day fasting session so I could hear an answer from the Lord about the rapture.

It was the 3rd day of my fast, I was just laying in bed, reading the Bible and went into a long and deep prayer time. I was asking the Lord about the rapture because people were setting dates and talking about those dates and it was stressing me out. I just wanted Him to tell me because I just wanted to know the truth.

This is what I heard, it was the longest word I've ever gotten and it was very clear.

"At the 7th trump, the dead in Christ will rise first. Then you will be taken."

It kept repeating over and over again, and it was absolutely definite.

I"m going to believe the Lord over Scotty.....lol. Sorry.

Of course, I'm only human and I"m faulty and imperfect. I hope that I'm wrong on this, but that's what I heard and I know I heard it loud and clear.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lisa, what I'm about to type is out of love, so please, please don't take this the wrong way. We have a long friendship here and I don't wanna jeopardize that, but I really need to say this. How can you understand our pre-trib view point if you don't watch the info vids that we post? There have been many vids of Scottie's posted in the "Room" thread that you post in. Plus I have posted many, many vids on that thread that teach the pre-trib view point.

Secondly- when Paul states the the Rapture (Harpazo) happens at the last trump, clearly he couldn't have been talking about the 7th trumpet mentioned in Revelation, b/c the book of Rev wasn't even written yet. I know that you said, that the Lord told you the Rapture will happen at the 7th trump. IMHO, it is so hard to discern what is from the Lord and what isn't, but this I know, the Bible is God's true Word, and that is what I choose to believe, over anything that people say they heard from the Lord. Again Lisa, this isn't a slam on you... I'm just voicing my opinion as you do.

Watch the above video, and others as well, that teach the pre-trib rapture, and Rosh Hashanah, than you will atleast understand our view point. You still may not agree, but you will understand why we have this view.

I think that we have been friends long enough, that we can disagree with one another and there won't be any hurt feelings. I love you Lisa!

God Bless you!!!
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I hope I'm wrong.

hf
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 Quoting: Intruth


Well, I don't know who scotty is, but I will share with you what happened to me.

Near the end of January, this year, I started a 3 day fasting session so I could hear an answer from the Lord about the rapture.

It was the 3rd day of my fast, I was just laying in bed, reading the Bible and went into a long and deep prayer time. I was asking the Lord about the rapture because people were setting dates and talking about those dates and it was stressing me out. I just wanted Him to tell me because I just wanted to know the truth.

This is what I heard, it was the longest word I've ever gotten and it was very clear.

"At the 7th trump, the dead in Christ will rise first. Then you will be taken."

It kept repeating over and over again, and it was absolutely definite.

I"m going to believe the Lord over Scotty.....lol. Sorry.

Of course, I'm only human and I"m faulty and imperfect. I hope that I'm wrong on this, but that's what I heard and I know I heard it loud and clear.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lisa, what I'm about to type is out of love, so please, please don't take this the wrong way. We have a long friendship here and I don't wanna jeopardize that, but I really need to say this. How can you understand our pre-trib view point if you don't watch the info vids that we post? There have been many vids of Scottie's posted in the "Room" thread that you post in. Plus I have posted many, many vids on that thread that teach the pre-trib view point.

Secondly- when Paul states the the Rapture (Harpazo) happens at the last trump, clearly he couldn't have been talking about the 7th trumpet mentioned in Revelation, b/c the book of Rev wasn't even written yet. I know that you said, that the Lord told you the Rapture will happen at the 7th trump. IMHO, it is so hard to discern what is from the Lord and what isn't, but this I know, the Bible is God's true Word, and that is what I choose to believe, over anything that people say they heard from the Lord. Again Lisa, this isn't a slam on you... I'm just voicing my opinion as you do.

Watch the above video, and others as well, that teach the pre-trib rapture, and Rosh Hashanah, than you will atleast understand our view point. You still may not agree, but you will understand why we have this view.

I think that we have been friends long enough, that we can disagree with one another and there won't be any hurt feelings. I love you Lisa!

God Bless you!!!
hf
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But, I did watch it, I watched the whole thing......lol.

Did you read Matthew Chapter 24? It's plain as day. That's what Jesus said, AFTER those days, at the end, He will gather together His elect.......and we're outta here. But it's not till the elect have gone through all that first. That's what it says.

Trust me, I could never get mad at you, but you're as wrong as a $6.00 bill on this one. Now don't get mad at me.

hf afro peace
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A reading of Jesus's own words below end the debate about the rapture. It is AFTER the tribulation. Very clear. The rapture is at the end, and the "elect of God" are here during the tribulation.

Matthew Chapter 24

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”


Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The Elect are the 144,000 and not the church. The church isn't even mentioned during the tribulation period. Why? Because we are in Heaven!

If there wasn't an escape (rapture) Jesus wouldn't have told us to watch and pray this...

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

hf
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A reading of Jesus's own words below end the debate about the rapture. It is AFTER the tribulation. Very clear. The rapture is at the end, and the "elect of God" are here during the tribulation.

Matthew Chapter 24

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”


Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The Elect are the 144,000 and not the church. The church isn't even mentioned during the tribulation period. Why? Because we are in Heaven!

If there wasn't an escape (rapture) Jesus wouldn't have told us to watch and pray this...

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You will escape the wrath because the wrath is the destruction of the earth by fire, as in verse 33, it's at the end when Jesus returns at the last trump. Jesus doesn't come twice, only once. He comes at the end, takes His people away and destroys the earth.

But, we do not escape the tribulation. Jesus's own words in Luke 21 tell us that we will be here. He even gives instructions about don't worry what to say when hauled before authorities, don't follow the false christ, flee to the mountains,
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Less than 17 hours until the start of Rosh Hashanah Bride.
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A reading of Jesus's own words below end the debate about the rapture. It is AFTER the tribulation. Very clear. The rapture is at the end, and the "elect of God" are here during the tribulation.

Matthew Chapter 24

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”


Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The Elect are the 144,000 and not the church. The church isn't even mentioned during the tribulation period. Why? Because we are in Heaven!

If there wasn't an escape (rapture) Jesus wouldn't have told us to watch and pray this...

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You will escape the wrath because the wrath is the destruction of the earth by fire, as in verse 33, it's at the end when Jesus returns at the last trump. Jesus doesn't come twice, only once. He comes at the end, takes His people away and destroys the earth.

But, we do not escape the tribulation. Jesus's own words in Luke 21 tell us that we will be here. He even gives instructions about don't worry what to say when hauled before authorities, don't follow the false christ, flee to the mountains,
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


If you really believe that, than there is no reason for you to be looking for the Bridegrooms return.

As for me, I'm watching!

The Lord may not come on this Feast of trumpets, but He might, so I'll be watching for my Lords return.
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First of all, the Muslims are not my brothers and sisters. My brothers and sisters are in Christ Jesus. We are told to love our enemies, thats true, but would I lay down my life for my enemy? Honest answer- probally not.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You're right, muslims are not our "brothers and sisters". Other Christians and the Messianic Jewish people are our brothers and sisters.

Everyone else is our "neighbor".

Big difference between a brother and a neighbor.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Oh? Well what was Jesus talking about with that whole

Love thy neighbour as thyself

business?

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Less than 17 hours until the start of Rosh Hashanah Bride.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


thanks!! i was too lazy to look for it today!! lol
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A reading of Jesus's own words below end the debate about the rapture. It is AFTER the tribulation. Very clear. The rapture is at the end, and the "elect of God" are here during the tribulation.

Matthew Chapter 24

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”


Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The Elect are the 144,000 and not the church. The church isn't even mentioned during the tribulation period. Why? Because we are in Heaven!

If there wasn't an escape (rapture) Jesus wouldn't have told us to watch and pray this...

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Read this short article, he outlines it better then I can.

[link to www.godandscience.org]
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here's my fav study on the harpazo.



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FIRST the departure. THEN the AC shall be revealed.
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First of all, the Muslims are not my brothers and sisters. My brothers and sisters are in Christ Jesus. We are told to love our enemies, thats true, but would I lay down my life for my enemy? Honest answer- probally not.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You're right, muslims are not our "brothers and sisters". Other Christians and the Messianic Jewish people are our brothers and sisters.

Everyone else is our "neighbor".

Big difference between a brother and a neighbor.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Oh? Well what was Jesus talking about with that whole

Love thy neighbour as thyself

business?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Absolutely, we are commanded to love our neighbor. No doubt about it.

I was clarifying the difference between a neighbor and a brother. There is a big difference.
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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The soul is the thing God created to be burnt alive forever...thats why he made it immortal.

He has TRILLIONS of souls to torture forever..and he keeps only a few for himself for self worship and grovelling purposes.

He NEEDS to be told how GREAT he is by the 5% he kept out of the dungeoun of doom...so he can happily torture to his feindish hearts content the 95% he created only and simply to TORTURE forever.

THAT is why he is so worthy of all praise.
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A reading of Jesus's own words below end the debate about the rapture. It is AFTER the tribulation. Very clear. The rapture is at the end, and the "elect of God" are here during the tribulation.

Matthew Chapter 24

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”


Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The Elect are the 144,000 and not the church. The church isn't even mentioned during the tribulation period. Why? Because we are in Heaven!

If there wasn't an escape (rapture) Jesus wouldn't have told us to watch and pray this...

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You will escape the wrath because the wrath is the destruction of the earth by fire, as in verse 33, it's at the end when Jesus returns at the last trump. Jesus doesn't come twice, only once. He comes at the end, takes His people away and destroys the earth.

But, we do not escape the tribulation. Jesus's own words in Luke 21 tell us that we will be here. He even gives instructions about don't worry what to say when hauled before authorities, don't follow the false christ, flee to the mountains,
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


If you really believe that, than there is no reason for you to be looking for the Bridegrooms return.

As for me, I'm watching!

The Lord may not come on this Feast of trumpets, but He might, so I'll be watching for my Lords return.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Of course I'm looking and waiting for His return. I believe He's coming at the 7th trumpet, but I have no idea when that is, and neither does anyone else. I don't know what trumpet we are at now, or if the trumpets have even started.

It's anybody's guess at this point, but I think we have a way to go yet, but nobody knows for sure.
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A reading of Jesus's own words below end the debate about the rapture. It is AFTER the tribulation. Very clear. The rapture is at the end, and the "elect of God" are here during the tribulation.

Matthew Chapter 24

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”


Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time.

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The Elect are the 144,000 and not the church. The church isn't even mentioned during the tribulation period. Why? Because we are in Heaven!

If there wasn't an escape (rapture) Jesus wouldn't have told us to watch and pray this...

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


You will escape the wrath because the wrath is the destruction of the earth by fire, as in verse 33, it's at the end when Jesus returns at the last trump. Jesus doesn't come twice, only once. He comes at the end, takes His people away and destroys the earth.

But, we do not escape the tribulation. Jesus's own words in Luke 21 tell us that we will be here. He even gives instructions about don't worry what to say when hauled before authorities, don't follow the false christ, flee to the mountains,
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Luke 21:
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


Did you notice the word 'BEGIN' to come to pass?

You can stay around for the trib if you want Lisa... as for me, I'm praying to be counted worthy to escape 'ALL these things' that shall soon come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

abduct.
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The soul is the thing God created to be burnt alive forever...thats why he made it immortal.

He has TRILLIONS of souls to torture forever..and he keeps only a few for himself for self worship and grovelling purposes.

He NEEDS to be told how GREAT he is by the 5% he kept out of the dungeoun of doom...so he can happily torture to his feindish hearts content the 95% he created only and simply to TORTURE forever.

THAT is why he is so worthy of all praise.
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LOL
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Maranatha to all and I hope that this might be the year!
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The soul is the thing God created to be burnt alive forever...thats why he made it immortal.

He has TRILLIONS of souls to torture forever..and he keeps only a few for himself for self worship and grovelling purposes.

He NEEDS to be told how GREAT he is by the 5% he kept out of the dungeoun of doom...so he can happily torture to his feindish hearts content the 95% he created only and simply to TORTURE forever.

THAT is why he is so worthy of all praise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16740668


Thats nonsense!

If you truly believe that, you will probably be part of the 95%

Good luck with that. Your future doesn't look too bright, does it?

Jesus can change that if you would just ask Him to!
hf
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