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Recent Jupiter Anomalies Correspond with J Edward Carper’s Pre-proposed Theory

 
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Let's say on World A you get a Roman then British Empire, but no Jesus ever happens.

Let's say on World B you get what we are taught in schools. The classical history.

What stays the same, what is different. Without Christianity, does India become a superpower perhaps?

What if nukes are never realized, or electrogravitics are?
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What types of technology enable holographic transference between universes? Electrical systems, Tesla tech.

What texts would change day to day for an observer from neither worldline?
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What about an entire world named America. Or a world where America never occurs...
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What about an entire world named America. Or a world where America never occurs...
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Eze 16:2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
Eze 16:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.
Eze 16:4 And as for thy nativity, in the day thou wast born thy navel was not cut, neither wast thou washed in water to supple thee; thou wast not salted at all, nor swaddled at all.
Eze 16:5 None eye pitied thee, to do any of these unto thee, to have compassion upon thee; but thou wast cast out in the open field, to the lothing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born.
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Even Oppenheimer would've disagreed with you since he learned Sanscrit to unravel some Hindu mysteries about vimanas and the use of toxic mercury....
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The problem is my friend, you can't tell the front of the dog from the rear.
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On the contrary, what happens is I try to be open and kept the dialogue imaging at the other end was an intelligent man but with every post you make more endless speculations thinking I have to imagine what the hell are you talking about or the basis for such incredible statements like English written in or out Time and the so-called difference with Time and time without capital letters, or the readers have to imagine what the heck are you trying to say imaging an alternative history and what is its relation with the topic. In a nutshell I was wasting my time and energy discussing with an asshole .
Don't worry, if it's I confusing the snout with the tail I shall allow whomever else interested in answering you whatever, go ahead.
This was my last message to you. Discussing further with a lunatic would turn me nuts as well. I'll pass.
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Come here to talk about Jupiter and it's just a dog licking it's own ass.
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It's like this folks, the universe cares exactly zero about what you were told in school.

Some people never graduate...
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Jupitards

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You can't ignite Jupiter this way. Even if the material ignited deep in the liquid area. It would just be like farting in the bathtub.
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Jupitards

poop


You can't ignite Jupiter this way. Even if the material ignited deep in the liquid area. It would just be like farting in the bathtub.
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What if I bathe in liquid hydrogen and I like to light my farts as I listen to Chopin.

(I save these hard questions for the geniuses who believe that light is both a particle and a wave)
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With enough internal pressure (Jupiter in the multi-tens of millions of bars) it's possible, a modest result.
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Frozen mammoth bollocks.
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I could surmise here about the end of the Mayan calendar and the relevance of such to a world not under Gregorian influence.
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Sorry OP that the elephant in the room had to hijack your thread with such theoretical theology...

I thought it was a great and interesting thread up till then...

I know I will keep an eye on Jup to see what happens next...

thanks

peace
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Specially this part:

And in REAL LIFE the Galileo probe was actually carrying 49 ¼ pounds plutonium, causing some buzz about a possible nuclear reaction turning Jupiter into the second sun of the solar system! Unlike nuclear fission bombs, the power of an H-bomb or thermonuclear weapon has no practical limit, -- it can be made as powerful as you want, by adding more deuterium/tritium to the second stage. What is interesting is this deuterium (D) heavy isotope of hydrogen on Jupiter. D has disappeared from the Sun as a result of nuclear reactions in the solar interior. Because no such reactions occur on Jupiter, the ratio of deuterium to hydrogen there should be identical to the ratio of those isotopes in the cloud of interstellar gas and dust that collapsed to form the solar system 4.6 billion years ago. Since deuterium was made primarily in the "big bang" that has been postulated to have begun the expansion of the universe, an accurate measurement of deuterium/hydrogen on Jupiter would allow the calibration of expansion models.

An engineer named Jacco van der Worp claimed that, plunging into Jupiter’s deep and increasingly dense atmosphere, the on-board Galileo electrical power supply – a set of 144 plutonium-238 fuel pellets, arrayed in two large canister devices called “RTGs” (Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators – see image and schematic, below) – would ultimately “implode”; that the plutonium Galileo carried would ultimately collapse in upon itself under the enormous pressures of Jupiter’s overwhelming atmosphere—.So maybe there was a Hiroshima & Nagasaki Jovian holocaust after all, September (that month), 2003:

[link to www.goroadachi.com]


buzz
Larger than the earth Jovian polar dark spot:

[link to www.space.com]

[link to www.enterprisemission.com]

This is a Satanic plan Arthur Clark knew because of a letter from someone who knew better – NASA’s Dr. Walter Jastrow- which leads to the novel 3001 Space Odyssey. Wanna briefly know about it and its relationship with Shoemaker-Levy comet and the assassination (?) of the one who discover the comet, Eugene Shoemaker? Be my guests:

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]

I don’t think is needed to talk about 11 code and Twin World Trade Center Towers, do I?

In 2010 Space Odyssey I observed the first number appearing in the ship’s computer is the 33, a well known number used by Freemasons. In the cover of a magazine, when they are talking about the war between USA and Russia about Central America circumstances we see both the faces of Kubrick and Clark as if they were the presidents.
It was very interesting the idea of the monolith multiplying itself like a virus and eating the planet (in fact adding mass to the planet), altering the chemistry and fading the color to create something like an EYE that eventually leads to the implosion of the planet converting it into the second smaller and more dense sun in our Milky Way.

John von Neumann, relying on A. Turing's works, interested himself on the theory of self-reproductive automata and worked on the conception of a self-reproductive machine, the "kinematon". Such a machine was supposed to be able to reproduce any machine described in its programs, including a copy of itself. The most famous of his machines is the monolith of the series "2001 Space Odyssey". To change Jupiter into a star, a first monolith self-reproduces, as well as its descendants, the population so increases exponentially to quickly reach the size necessary to realize such a gigantic task.

The prior discovery of chlorophyll in Europa even though covered with 100 km thick shield of ice. This is also relevant since Arthur Clarke also wrote “The Snow of Olympus”:

[link to www.enterprisemission.com]

[link to www.enterprisemission.com]

It was interesting to watch Discovery at Lagrange Point, the Jupiter-Io system where the gravity action is neutralized regarding the different bodies of a mechanical system. Discovery was covered with sulfur and we know Io (discovered in 1610 by Galileo) is formed by volcanic components rich in sulfur. Clarke himself appears in that film as the old man feeding doves in front of White House and the plot was made through daily contact with the director Peter Hyams (who also did Capricorn one in 1978 and Outland in 1981) by computers (in that time!). Clark was at Sri Lanka at that time.
This made me look for information about the RED SPOT in Jupiter and found it could be a vortex anticyclone in the same place for 3 centuries!

[link to www.grantchronicles.com]
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Interesting, Thanks for the links...!
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Sorry OP that the elephant in the room had to hijack your thread with such theoretical theology...

I thought it was a great and interesting thread up till then...

I know I will keep an eye on Jup to see what happens next...

thanks

peace
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Thanks, with a thread this long it is bound to have some tangents and that is ok. This subject sparks many other ideas.
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Specially this part:

And in REAL LIFE the Galileo probe was actually carrying 49 ¼ pounds plutonium, causing some buzz about a possible nuclear reaction turning Jupiter into the second sun of the solar system! Unlike nuclear fission bombs, the power of an H-bomb or thermonuclear weapon has no practical limit, -- it can be made as powerful as you want, by adding more deuterium/tritium to the second stage. What is interesting is this deuterium (D) heavy isotope of hydrogen on Jupiter. D has disappeared from the Sun as a result of nuclear reactions in the solar interior. Because no such reactions occur on Jupiter, the ratio of deuterium to hydrogen there should be identical to the ratio of those isotopes in the cloud of interstellar gas and dust that collapsed to form the solar system 4.6 billion years ago. Since deuterium was made primarily in the "big bang" that has been postulated to have begun the expansion of the universe, an accurate measurement of deuterium/hydrogen on Jupiter would allow the calibration of expansion models.

An engineer named Jacco van der Worp claimed that, plunging into Jupiter’s deep and increasingly dense atmosphere, the on-board Galileo electrical power supply – a set of 144 plutonium-238 fuel pellets, arrayed in two large canister devices called “RTGs” (Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators – see image and schematic, below) – would ultimately “implode”; that the plutonium Galileo carried would ultimately collapse in upon itself under the enormous pressures of Jupiter’s overwhelming atmosphere—.So maybe there was a Hiroshima & Nagasaki Jovian holocaust after all, September (that month), 2003:

[link to www.goroadachi.com]


buzz
Larger than the earth Jovian polar dark spot:

[link to www.space.com]

[link to www.enterprisemission.com]

This is a Satanic plan Arthur Clark knew because of a letter from someone who knew better – NASA’s Dr. Walter Jastrow- which leads to the novel 3001 Space Odyssey. Wanna briefly know about it and its relationship with Shoemaker-Levy comet and the assassination (?) of the one who discover the comet, Eugene Shoemaker? Be my guests:

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]

I don’t think is needed to talk about 11 code and Twin World Trade Center Towers, do I?

In 2010 Space Odyssey I observed the first number appearing in the ship’s computer is the 33, a well known number used by Freemasons. In the cover of a magazine, when they are talking about the war between USA and Russia about Central America circumstances we see both the faces of Kubrick and Clark as if they were the presidents.
It was very interesting the idea of the monolith multiplying itself like a virus and eating the planet (in fact adding mass to the planet), altering the chemistry and fading the color to create something like an EYE that eventually leads to the implosion of the planet converting it into the second smaller and more dense sun in our Milky Way.

John von Neumann, relying on A. Turing's works, interested himself on the theory of self-reproductive automata and worked on the conception of a self-reproductive machine, the "kinematon". Such a machine was supposed to be able to reproduce any machine described in its programs, including a copy of itself. The most famous of his machines is the monolith of the series "2001 Space Odyssey". To change Jupiter into a star, a first monolith self-reproduces, as well as its descendants, the population so increases exponentially to quickly reach the size necessary to realize such a gigantic task.

The prior discovery of chlorophyll in Europa even though covered with 100 km thick shield of ice. This is also relevant since Arthur Clarke also wrote “The Snow of Olympus”:

[link to www.enterprisemission.com]

[link to www.enterprisemission.com]

It was interesting to watch Discovery at Lagrange Point, the Jupiter-Io system where the gravity action is neutralized regarding the different bodies of a mechanical system. Discovery was covered with sulfur and we know Io (discovered in 1610 by Galileo) is formed by volcanic components rich in sulfur. Clarke himself appears in that film as the old man feeding doves in front of White House and the plot was made through daily contact with the director Peter Hyams (who also did Capricorn one in 1978 and Outland in 1981) by computers (in that time!). Clark was at Sri Lanka at that time.
This made me look for information about the RED SPOT in Jupiter and found it could be a vortex anticyclone in the same place for 3 centuries!

[link to www.grantchronicles.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30897897


Interesting, Thanks for the links...!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

You're welcome O.P. , I did this investigation years ago in a topic about secrets and codes from 2001, 2010 Space Odysseys and T R O N! I'll try to put some interesting links:
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[link to www.mt.net]
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[link to www.enterprisemission.com]
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Read this:
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
and these two that I just posted...
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Read this:
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
and these two that I just posted...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30948476


Thanks!

I have read those before, but it's a good reread.

Jastrow is kind of an enigma.
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"Dr. Velikovsky pointed out that the collisions were not independent; in fact, if two bodies orbiting the Sun under the influence of gravity collide once, that encounter enhances the chance of another, a well known fact in celestial mechanics. Professor Sagan's calculations, in effect, ignore the law of gravity. Here, Dr. Velikovsky was the better astronomer." -- Robert Jastrow, astrophysicist, December 1979
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Next Jupiter flash tentatively predicted:

10/21/13 (+/-) which would be the next focal date for a flash group, give or take a few days.

This, based on Jupiter-Earth synodic positions. This would be synodic 399x4 days past the proposed fusion event in June '09.

In general, if Earth approaching Jupiter every sequence is causing a voltage outburst from Jupiter, this would be the next approx. time. So far there is SOME evidence to suggest this. see: [link to jabbingjupiter.com]

6/3/09, 8/20/09, 9/10/12 flashes = limited evidence for this theory, still in development.

Right now the largest magnetosphere near Jupiter is Earth's, not counting the Sun. That changes in a few years when Saturn will take over to influence Jupiter.
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Next Jupiter flash tentatively predicted:

10/21/13 (+/-) which would be the next focal date for a flash group, give or take a few days.

This, based on Jupiter-Earth synodic positions. This would be synodic 399x4 days past the proposed fusion event in June '09.

In general, if Earth approaching Jupiter every sequence is causing a voltage outburst from Jupiter, this would be the next approx. time. So far there is SOME evidence to suggest this. see: [link to jabbingjupiter.com]

6/3/09, 8/20/09, 9/10/12 flashes = limited evidence for this theory, still in development.

Right now the largest magnetosphere near Jupiter is Earth's, not counting the Sun. That changes in a few years when Saturn will take over to influence Jupiter.
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Oops: actual SEEN flash dates = 6/3/10, 8/20/10, and 9/10/12
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Next Jupiter flash tentatively predicted:

10/21/13 (+/-) which would be the next focal date for a flash group, give or take a few days.

This, based on Jupiter-Earth synodic positions. This would be synodic 399x4 days past the proposed fusion event in June '09.

In general, if Earth approaching Jupiter every sequence is causing a voltage outburst from Jupiter, this would be the next approx. time. So far there is SOME evidence to suggest this. see: [link to jabbingjupiter.com]

6/3/09, 8/20/09, 9/10/12 flashes = limited evidence for this theory, still in development.

Right now the largest magnetosphere near Jupiter is Earth's, not counting the Sun. That changes in a few years when Saturn will take over to influence Jupiter.
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Oops: actual SEEN flash dates = 6/3/10, 8/20/10, and 9/10/12
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This 6/3/10 and 8/20/10 are an antipodal group centered on the first synodic (39 days either side of it). The 9/10/12 is one of a group of two also(we didn't catch the second one of this group to image) centered on the 3rd synodic (7 days either side of it). All of these so far have occurred near when Earth was tangent to Jupiter while approaching it to get nearer to 4 AU away.
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[link to jabbingjupiter.com]

In-depth analysis of Wesley Mark of July 19, 2009
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[link to jabbingjupiter.com]

In-depth analysis of Wesley Mark of July 19, 2009
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This analysis demonstrates that the conventional story about the asteroid is not plausible, since the core of the mark always stayed at 216(II), -57.

The mark was "tethered" to something deep below.
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When I say "tethered" I don't mean literally, but that its origin was very deep causing a stream that surfaced at 216, -57, and it stayed there for 3 to 4 weeks blowing out debris EAST from there according to the winds.
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Since all longitude systems for Jupiter move at different rates, II is the selected rate for this area of Jupiter, considered the rate of the planet's rotation in areas not near the equator. This does not mean the winds that we see at the surface are moving at this rate.

I = Equator longitude system
II = Non-equator longitude system
III = Core rotation derived by radio signals

II and III are very similar. I is the fastest rotation.
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When I say "tethered" I don't mean literally, but that its origin was very deep causing a stream that surfaced at 216, -57, and it stayed there for 3 to 4 weeks blowing out debris EAST from there according to the winds.
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This is the explanation that both explains the position of the mark AND the abundant silica found in the spectral analysis. The mark sourced from liquidated silica at Jupiter's center.

Also the mark had no halo (as an impact should), no incoming was spotted, and no extra "hits" were observed (smaller pieces).

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