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Recent Jupiter Anomalies Correspond with J Edward Carper’s Pre-proposed Theory

 
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This is interesting and I have heard similar theories about tapping into energy in this way, like the "loosh" theory. This suggests that since the author of the said Lucifer Project book has EXPOSED what is going on, he in fact has DISRUPTED the SECRECY of the energy stream that may come from it, and by doing so has diminished some of the energy of the planners and given some to the readers.
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I was thinking the same things OP.

In truth and respect, I don't know if my great grandfather, grandfather, or uncle practiced the "dark type of sorcery", which is manipulative or malevolent or parasitic. They all seemed like good people to me, always friendly although all three mostly just smiled and rarely ever said anything, totally aloof, just like their British blue-blood ancestry. But they (and Howard Hughes) were all involved in at least the "white" type of occult mysticism, as are many in such positions I am coming to find out. I don't have a clue who was in charge of the Jupiter probe either.

We don't have much except for speculation here, which GLP is great for. But it is some interesting speculation, even if they ignited Jupiter just by accident.


(When planning the descent of a probe into Jupiter they've got engineers going backwards and forwards for years in advance everything that they expect might happen to such a craft during it's descent, so if that plutonium exploded, I doubt if they were not aware of the possibility in advance.)

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Right, not to get away from the actual science of this thing which is the plausible direction, removing any "mysticism" or "magic"; this theory works on the scientific level. Even if nearly all engineers had been appeased regarding the criticality of the Pu mix (and most were not even looking there), I am sure a few KNEW the potential of the pellets. The conditions are just TOO RIGHT like the LWRHU's were custom made for this sort of thing.

--LWHRU's into Jupiter INTACT in 1995
--Falling deep is allowed by EOS of carbon
--Pu-238/239 mix deemed fissile and fissionable
--Supercritical Spark creates 1 trillion Kelvin temps under 30 million bars containment
--Fusion reaction consolidates to center after liquidating it.
--Fusion reaaction spreads to no more than 10% radius (inner).

And then the evidence:
--Resulting Wesley mark and antipodal electrical discharges point to the CENTER being affected
--IR radiation "from the depths" rising now verified in Physics.org article

This is why the pellets are called "The Philosopher's Stone"
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ehecatl, do you have a website?
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ehecatl, do you have a website?
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Here's one of my websites - www.parapentemx.com
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Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:




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Mar 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Mar 13:28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
Mar 13:29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
Mar 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.




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I understand the theory being discussed in general terms only. Sounds very plausible and fitting with current phenomena. This is one of the best threads I have seen on GLP and I thank OP and all of the contributors for the exciting, but hopefully not forthcoming event thread. Thank you!

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+1
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Another aspect of this that should be considered is that it is supposed that a small agenda group is involved with sneaking this into Jupiter because the rest around them are oblivious to the stealthiness of this whole thing.

But, it occurred to me that there is yet another shocking possibility: that a ROGUE GROUP yet within a masonic group has taken it on themselves to try this with only the knowledge and permission of an extremely high-placed mason who has also gone ROGUE without the general knowledge of the rest of his clique. The nature of exclusiveness of the knowledge involved in this makes this possible.

What I'm getting at is that there may NOT be uniformity at the very TOP and this sort of plan is a GAME CHANGER even to those who thought that had things totally in control.
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Spot on!
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Another aspect of this that should be considered is that it is supposed that a small agenda group is involved with sneaking this into Jupiter because the rest around them are oblivious to the stealthiness of this whole thing.

But, it occurred to me that there is yet another shocking possibility: that a ROGUE GROUP yet within a masonic group has taken it on themselves to try this with only the knowledge and permission of an extremely high-placed mason who has also gone ROGUE without the general knowledge of the rest of his clique. The nature of exclusiveness of the knowledge involved in this makes this possible.

What I'm getting at is that there may NOT be uniformity at the very TOP and this sort of plan is a GAME CHANGER even to those who thought that had things totally in control.
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Spot on!
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You would need basically a couple developers in the D.O.E. telling NASA "please use this Pu pellet". Once it is put in the GAEP probe, the rest happens by default, so this is possible. If the D.O.E. says "use it", I doubt if NASA rechecks to see if they should use it.
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Probably need the "director" of the proper DOE nuke dept. and a second "nuclear physicist" both in D.O.E. each checking each others findings.

Probably need at least one high level dupe or conspirator in NASA to make sure things go through.
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I think one has to keep in mind that NASA is a military organisation...
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I think one has to keep in mind that NASA is a military organisation...
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Right, so they are taking directions as such also, not questioning higher authorities.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

this is a DOE creation
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[link to saturn.jpl.nasa.gov]

They've been "over-tested" to make sure they don't break up in atmospheres.
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I think one has to keep in mind that NASA is a military organisation...
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Right, so they are taking directions as such also, not questioning higher authorities.
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And they know how to keep secrets secret.
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ehecatl, do you have a website?
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Here's one of my websites - www.parapentemx.com
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Thanks!
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I think one has to keep in mind that NASA is a military organisation...
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Right, so they are taking directions as such also, not questioning higher authorities.
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And they know how to keep secrets secret.
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Yes, I see your point.

These kind of devices (RHU's) have been used since the Pioneer and Voyager days. They have kept improving them over the years to make them not break up.

Sending them into a gas giant happened for the first time in 1995...the first time that we know of...
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W M Cooper's states that as a Naval Intelligence Member he had available to him "...material which I saw and read between the years 1970 and 1973 as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet"

The time period for the "Galileo story" then is before this, so if it is true, they (DOE or the like) had been working on it before that time, before or near early 70's.
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Edward Teller seems to be a good candidate for one of the early master minds of getting this started.
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W M Cooper's states that as a Naval Intelligence Member he had available to him "...material which I saw and read between the years 1970 and 1973 as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet"

The time period for the "Galileo story" then is before this, so if it is true, they (DOE or the like) had been working on it before that time, before or near early 70's.
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This also indicates "sloppy" keeping of a secret though unless it's something like this: Cooper also said he believes he got "real" information fed to him mixed in with "disinformation".

This reminds me of what they did during the moon landings when they put warnings on people's desks or chairs about it being fake as it was supposedly occurring.
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I think one has to keep in mind that NASA is a military organisation...
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Right, so they are taking directions as such also, not questioning higher authorities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

And they know how to keep secrets secret.
 Quoting: RoXY


Yes, I see your point.

These kind of devices (RHU's) have been used since the Pioneer and Voyager days. They have kept improving them over the years to make them not break up.

Sending them into a gas giant happened for the first time in 1995...the first time that we know of...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200


Those who talk (most often) do not know & those who know don't talk.

The best way to keep secrets safe is the threat 'they' take out a whistleblower's family and loved ones first, before they get to him/her...
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Thread: Jupiter Visble During Daylight: Made Crazy Ass Video

Jupiter clearly visible in daylight time...just sayin'...
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Here’s why Carper’s Theory should be taken seriously now:

First off you have the stated predictions since 2003 of anomalies on Jupiter like this occurring due to NASA experiments with Pu deep inside Jup.

Secondly, you have a signature mark in July 2009 that looks like an ejection of material from very deep down (blowout mark and venting from the fusion event initiation). The signature of the mark backs up the “very, very deep down” sourcing, and DOES NOT back up comet impact which is what they were begging to find.

Then later you have TWO MASSIVE FLASHES being ANTIPODAL. And they appear to be electrical discharges.

And now a third, even brighter than the others?

You’ve got to be considering something other than what the mainstream is pushing, and the “fusion theory” explains all of it while still being scientifically plausible, whereas the mainstream has had to drastically deviate from their previous accepted theories just to make the “impacts” plausible!
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Hello again managed to find an article that I read last month about Jup, it obviously doesn't say anything about Carters theory but.. it does mention global changes on Jupiter. quote:

"The changes we're seeing in Jupiter are global in scale," Orton said. "We've seen some of these before, but never with modern instrumentation to clue us in on what's going on. Other changes haven't been seen in decades, and some regions have never been in the state they're appearing in now. At the same time, we've never seen so many things striking Jupiter. Right now, we're trying to figure out why this is all happening."

The article is here there also an interesting picture in visible-light and infrared showing a yearly increase in disturbances..

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
 Quoting: scottishdave


Thanks for the link. Yes, NASA experts are "scratching their heads" asking why Jupiter seems to be "transforming". Well, some have been yelling for the last few years that the answer has already been given.
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This NASA article implies that IR (InfraRed Radiation Emission) from Jupiter has increased since 2009.
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Interesting - jupiter and Saturn seem to be the major strong holds of the Archonic forces that the elites are so intertwined with - whilst their nemesis, Christos is embodied within the Sun. Is this a plan for the renegade Archon forces to escape their predicament?
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There is certainly some element on that. In the book, the original plunge of the Galileo spacecraft is shown at the same sky location as one of the proposed locations of the "Star of Bethlehem" or "Star of Virgo". This was a partial overlap of Venus on Jupiter which caused a huge stir in astrology circles around 2 BC.
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I would like to know more about astrology circles at that specific date and not 4 nor 7 B.C. I have read only from two other sources that was really date Christ was born and not Halley comet , supernova explosion or alignment of planets. Christ was born near Herod's death and a complete solar eclipse, not partial one happening years before. Christ baptized when he was about 30 in the 15th year of Tiberius kingship. He became king in 14 so 14+15=29 of this common era. That means Christ was baptized in year 29 when he was 30, since there was no year zero he was born in year 2 B.C so now we are not entering into year 2013 but 2015.

So the proyect was turning Jupiter into a second sun? But I though Illuminati worshipped the ancient black sun which was Saturn. If Jupiter becomes a sun, what about Saturn in their scheme?
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Interesting - jupiter and Saturn seem to be the major strong holds of the Archonic forces that the elites are so intertwined with - whilst their nemesis, Christos is embodied within the Sun. Is this a plan for the renegade Archon forces to escape their predicament?
 Quoting: JBG 791407


There is certainly some element on that. In the book, the original plunge of the Galileo spacecraft is shown at the same sky location as one of the proposed locations of the "Star of Bethlehem" or "Star of Virgo". This was a partial overlap of Venus on Jupiter which caused a huge stir in astrology circles around 2 BC.
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I would like to know more about astrology circles at that specific date and not 4 nor 7 B.C. I have read only from two other sources that was really date Christ was born and not Halley comet , supernova explosion or alignment of planets. Christ was born near Herod's death and a complete solar eclipse, not partial one happening years before. Christ baptized when he was about 30 in the 15th year of Tiberius kingship. He became king in 14 so 14+15=29 of this common era. That means Christ was baptized in year 29 when he was 30, since there was no year zero he was born in year 2 B.C so now we are not entering into year 2013 but 2015.

So the proyect was turning Jupiter into a second sun? But I though Illuminati worshipped the ancient black sun which was Saturn. If Jupiter becomes a sun, what about Saturn in their scheme?
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Ever tear down an old house to build a new one?
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In the movie "2010 Odyssey" at the end of the movie the words,

All These Worlds
Are Yours Except
Europa
Attempt No
Landing There

Who sent this message to them?
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In the movie "2010 Odyssey" at the end of the movie the words,

All These Worlds
Are Yours Except
Europa
Attempt No
Landing There

Who sent this message to them?
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Their own goddamn optimistic imagination.
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In the movie "2010 Odyssey" at the end of the movie the words,

All These Worlds
Are Yours Except
Europa
Attempt No
Landing There

Who sent this message to them?
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks


The ETs from Sirius who put the monolites on earth, on the moon and on Jupiter and finally on Jupiter's moon. We know they are from Sirius because that's the scene from monolith with alignment representing Sirius star as worshipped by Freemasons. Actually director Kubrick changed the persplex crystal tetrahedron glass cos it didn't look too crystaline but a bit green, so he replaced it with 14 rectangular monoliths made of wood and sprayed with black ink, crew had to deal with it with gloves and in vaccum not to leave a single fingerprint on the monoliths..., such the neurosis of the director.
These Sentinels written by Arthur Clark created an implosion in Jupiter adding mass to the planet cos the monoliths replicated as virus, changing the very chemistry of the planet and even fading its colors.

The film was made (2010 Space Odyssey , the sequel) by the same director , Peter Hyam, who did Capricorn One, which is about a FAKE TRIP TO MARS with the cooperation of astronauts who have their lives in jeopardy if they don't accept playing their key roles......

The first numbers appearing on a computer in that film is the famous 33 Freemason number.
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Read all about 2001 and 2010 Space Odyssey films here:
Thread: 2001 & 2010 Space Odyssey/TRON UPDATE revelations
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are you implying Jupiter ignition?
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The events imply that the very center, maybe only 1000 km radius, has gone into sustained fusion but it is very modest with respect to what the Sun is doing. Now the heat from this fusion is working its way to higher levels.

Since Jupiter used to be 35,000 Kelvin at the center and now the theory proposes 5 million Kelvin within the core of the reaction, the heat is conducting and convecting upwards to higher and higher levels.

It is a "slow" ignition.
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Fusion doesn't work that way. If the core suddenly started doing that it would case a chain reaction and Jupiter would ignite. It can't though, because it doesn't have sufficient mass to do so. This is very simple astrophysics were are dealing with here.

Even the energy released from slamming Saturn into Jupiter wouldn't be enough. The mass just isn't there for it to sustain fusion.

It's a cute theory, but not based on any sort of real world physics.

Believe in this if you will, but it's based on hogwash, and I will bet you any amount of money Jupiter will never become a star.

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