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I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?

 
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
get anything that takes 9mm,556 or 7.62 there will be plenty of ammo to "procure" off of fallen fighters for these weapons.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Save another $500 and get an M1A (M14). The best battle rifle ever made.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Remington 870 home defense model with extended magazine tube

$350

Spend the rest on 00 buckshot
 Quoting: viking thunder


This.

870Rem is the best bang for your buck weapon out there. Add a slug barrel with a scope and who needs a rifle?

Plus you can use the rest of your money to buy a reloader, powder, primers and shot. Decent shells can be used over and over again and are very easy to reload. Making your own riffle rounds is quite difficult.

Lastly, you will rarely have to clean your 870. Simply keep the barrel oiled with a standard gun oil twice a year to keep from rusting (even a rusted out 870 will shoot straight though). Rifles need to be cleaned, maintained and sighted regularly.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
whatever u decide on, don't wait much longer. If a small nuke or dirty bomb goes off, martial law will be implemented and all gun stores will be closed.
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09/16/2012 12:33 AM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
So I feel like I've got it narrowed down to 2 choices. The 10/22 and a Ruger .40 SW----- OR ----- The Mini 14.

I don't really like shotguns,and my only experience with AR-15's was short lived because a DPMS wouldn't fire, and S&W kept jamming.

I would eventually like to get the G36 nomad conversion for the 10/22. The reviews on the pistol are good, and having something small is good for protecting a theater full of people from some "orange haired psychopath med school drop out."

I found a video of a guy talking about how there used to be accuracy issues with the Mini 14, and 3 or 4 years ago they brought back one of the original engineers and had them retool all of the machines that made them and it vastly improved the accuracy. I also like the Sparta Archangel stock conversion for the Mini.

As for the end of the world, well... we've survived it before.
I spent enough time as a boy scout lost in the middle of nowhere to know a thing or 2 about real survival that doesn't involve people trying to kill me. Having the right tools will always make the difference.

And my only reply to you Bible thumpers is to re-read the Old Testament and go bang your cousin, while you try to figure out how a man "who was wise in all of the ways of the Egyptians" had the power to manipulate water with a staff that displays the characteristics of a Tesla Coil, while the Ark of the covenant was actually an adjustable capacitor/transformer.

Your God is Electricity. It always has been in one way or another. People are pissed off because they don't have any. bonghit
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Haven't read all the posts but you need to know. TWO IS ONE AND ONE IS NONE!
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
So I feel like I've got it narrowed down to 2 choices. The 10/22 and a Ruger .40 SW----- OR ----- The Mini 14.

I don't really like shotguns,and my only experience with AR-15's was short lived because a DPMS wouldn't fire, and S&W kept jamming.

I would eventually like to get the G36 nomad conversion for the 10/22. The reviews on the pistol are good, and having something small is good for protecting a theater full of people from some "orange haired psychopath med school drop out."

I found a video of a guy talking about how there used to be accuracy issues with the Mini 14, and 3 or 4 years ago they brought back one of the original engineers and had them retool all of the machines that made them and it vastly improved the accuracy. I also like the Sparta Archangel stock conversion for the Mini.

As for the end of the world, well... we've survived it before.
I spent enough time as a boy scout lost in the middle of nowhere to know a thing or 2 about real survival that doesn't involve people trying to kill me. Having the right tools will always make the difference.

And my only reply to you Bible thumpers is to re-read the Old Testament and go bang your cousin, while you try to figure out how a man "who was wise in all of the ways of the Egyptians" had the power to manipulate water with a staff that displays the characteristics of a Tesla Coil, while the Ark of the covenant was actually an adjustable capacitor/transformer.

Your God is Electricity. It always has been in one way or another. People are pissed off because they don't have any. bonghit
 Quoting: ZeuZ


There will always be a war between the AR and the Mini, people who claim the mini has accuracy problems are speaking from the past. People who speak of AR's jamming and always need a clean are speaking from today.

Minis are a very clean gun, reliable and trustworthy, but truly lack long distance range in Oregon only because of all the trees in the way.

Kieths sporting goods will sell you a new in box mini for 690.00. If you pay cash hell toss in a few 30 round ruger mags. Only use ruger mags, the rest are knockoffs.

( like a lot of AR parts )

Nothing wrong with an AR, it's just that you can't tell a good part from a cheap clone.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
One final word....

Make sure if you decide to get the tactical, it is chambered for 5.56. A .223 will not long term fire a 556 without barrell issues but a chambered 556 will forever shoot 223
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
My suggestion from personal experience is the AR-15 which if you found a friend or a good place to deal with that can find a deal you could get it between 500 and 600. Then you can shoot the stopping power of .223 from a distance or close then pay like 100 bucks to get the conversion kit that allows you to run .22 great for dialing in, light defense, and hunting. This will not leave much of anything for ammo, but it would be my first suggestion.

Second would be more for the buck which I have seen others post and I suggest them for accuracy and stopping power all in the same, but cheap hi-point 9mm carbine. You can get for 150 or less. Get a scope for it ammo and then a 9 mm pistol like a s&w M&P or sigma so all ammo is versatile between the 2 and not have to buy different ammo. You should be able to get a 9 mm pistol for like 300 or 350 still have money left for ammo.

Just my take. Good luck been there.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
This might clear things up as far as ammo for the Mini 14. The Mini-14 Target models will NOT SAFELY FIRE 5.56x45. These rifles are chambered ONLY for .223 Rem. All other Mini-14s will safely fire 5.56 NATO or .223 interchangeably. Confusion happens when people see .223/556 marked on some Mini's and just .223 on others. Some countries won't let Ruger sell one anymore with the 556 designation simply because it's considered a military round so they don't print it on the rifle but it is designed/built to fire either.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
pfffff, those who suggest AR-15's most likely didnt spend time with them in combat with the m16 (same weapon).. If I got redeployd and had a choice give me a 10/22 or an AK hands down, 10/22 in THIS situation win s all day due to the availablity and inexpensive cost of ammo.. Plus, I know i can carry all my gear and 5000 rounds of 22LR comfortably, try carrying 5000 rounds of 223.. Ofcourse, just my opinion again.. Shotgun is about worthless, you dont want the target that close, if it is that close youre gonna need a whole lot more then the 8 shots you can squeak into that thing.. Close quaters id preffer either hand to hand or a nice 9/40/45.... Pick what you feel is right for you and youre situation, to get a DECENT AR youre going to be 1200 into it and thats a bare bones stock AR thats worth a damn (ie colt)... Although I will say there are some 22LR conversion kits out there for the AR which look pretty cool but still youre in the "if it gets dirty youre screwed situation"

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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Squirt gun $5, spend the rest on food and a down coat.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
You need a gun that can last you for the rest of your life and withstand anything.
Glock 9mm is easy and simple.

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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
This might clear things up as far as ammo for the Mini 14. The Mini-14 Target models will NOT SAFELY FIRE 5.56x45. These rifles are chambered ONLY for .223 Rem. All other Mini-14s will safely fire 5.56 NATO or .223 interchangeably. Confusion happens when people see .223/556 marked on some Mini's and just .223 on others. Some countries won't let Ruger sell one anymore with the 556 designation simply because it's considered a military round so they don't print it on the rifle but it is designed/built to fire either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23660209


That is correct.

Target models are just that, plinkers!.
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OP, what did you end up doing?
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Another option is get a Hi Point carbine for under $300 in 9mm, .40, or .45

Then you can get a 10/22 for another $200.

So that gets you 2 weapons with common calibers for about $500 and leaves $200 for hi cap magazines and ammo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1205298


I have looked at the High Point .45 carbine. Nice gun.
The only gripe I have is that it doesnt take 1911 magazines.
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
$700?

I would have to suggest a rifle, an SKS.
You CAN also buy a WASR, however, I'd rather have a good SKS than an OK AK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17892097


This ^ Get the WASR Ak 47 for about 500 bucks. Mine even came with 4, 30 rnd clips and the folding stock. 200 more dollars will get you at least 500 rnds of 7.62x39mm

Otherwise you won't ever fail with a mini 14 or 30, I've got a Ruger 30 and love it as well. Only thing is 30 rnd clips are specific for these guns. So you can't swap between guns as much.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Don't think you could go wrong with the mini 14. Durable, accurate, .223 readily available and tons of add-on/upgrades as budget allows.
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Best idea on here!
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I would go to your local ATF office and ask for advice such as this.

"What would you buy if the US government declared martial law and you wanted to fulfill your oath to protect the Constitution?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18308331


Literally the most insane thing I have ever read in my entire life, and most likely will ever read. I cannot get over how insane some people truly are. Especially when they write something that is as likely to happen as man eating dandelions taking over the planet. Seriously, lay off the crack because your paranoia is taking you over.
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Ever hear of "sarcasm" cup cake ?
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Do not buy an AR or AK if your budget is only $700.

First, get a decent handgun that is concealable, such as the Glock 19. Get something in 9mm, .40 or .45 it doesn't matter which one. Glock and Springfield XD are good but there are other good brands out there. You should be able to get one for @ $500.

Spend the other $200 on a hi-cap magazine and then the rest on ammo. Glocks and Springfields won't be picky on ammo. They will eat the cheap stuff without jamming. Make sure you take it to the range and get used shooting it. At least be able to hit the target.

If TSHTF, you will be a target if you are seen carrying around an AR, AK, or shotgun. Someone who is more experienced and who has a group of buddies will see you as a potential threat and take you out. Your nice AR will be an incentive for people with a tactical advantage to kill you.

You need to conceal your weapon and be able to blend in to the crowd. If TSHTF for real, then you will have plenty of free AR's laying around from dead armchair commandos.
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Some of us Armchair Commandos are Combat tested U.S.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I'm leaning towards a Ruger mini-14 tactical, or a 10/22 rifle and a .22 pistol. Not confident about the stopping power of the .22, but my accuracy is pinpoint. What do my fellow gun enthusiasts recommend?
 Quoting: ZeuZ


Actually with the money you have you can probably get two. AK-47 WASR 10 and a RUGER P89 9mm pre ban high cap

AK = $400 +/-
Ruger $300 +/-

Both are cheap ammo. I have an AK and it's surprisingly accurate make sure you get double stack mag, single stack usually jam
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
SKS. Still a very reasonable buy for a quality rifle. Very nice .30 cal round that penetrates brush much better than a .22 or .223. and you still have enough money left over to buy a case of ammo.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
A Supersoaker filled with mace.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
Remington 870 home defense model with extended magazine tube

$350

Spend the rest on 00 buckshot
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I'm leaning towards a Ruger mini-14 tactical, or a 10/22 rifle and a .22 pistol. Not confident about the stopping power of the .22, but my accuracy is pinpoint. What do my fellow gun enthusiasts recommend?
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Ruger 10/22 $99
HiPoint .40 call carbine $300
Remington700 .308 bull barrel bolt action $300
Your all set...
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
I would reccomend any firearm this is considered common. Bullets much
Easier to run across in a shtf situation. .22s, 9mm, 12guage shotguns, etc. are much mote common than other calibers. personally I have 3 shotguns, a 12 guage auto, a 12 guage single shot for accuracy, and a short bolt action 16 guage for close range. I also have a 7.62x54 bolt action rifle for shots over 100 yards as well as two pistols, an 8 shot 22 revolver and a 380 auto that can fit in my pocket. I try to keep at least a hundred rounds for each gun in stock, and plan to increase that stockpile closer to the end of this year. Whatever gun you decide on, just coose something you are comfy with and can operate easily in a tight spot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1813978


I've heard 500 rounds per gun in case of an emergency situation but the question is are you wasting your money, if martial law comes and the law is give up your guns or your going to prison and your kids will be taken away for endangering them..will you give them up or not..because sooner or later we are headed toward that senerio
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Guns? What guns? You have guns?
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09/20/2012 08:41 PM
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
300.00 Shotgun
400.00 Shells, Bird through slug
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2011675


This guy has it right.

I would also recommend a .22lg semi-auto rifle 10k of rounds and a .22lg single shot in case the aemi-breaks.
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
OP, who do you plan on shooting?
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Re: I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?
OP, who do you plan on shooting?
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I'm serious OP. What do you want a gun for and I will tell you what I think is a good choice.

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