I have $700 to spend on a gun for the end of the world .What should I get?

get anything that takes 9mm,556 or 7.62 there will be plenty of ammo to "procure" off of fallen fighters for these weapons.

Save another $500 and get an M1A (M14). The best battle rifle ever made.

This.

870Rem is the best bang for your buck weapon out there. Add a slug barrel with a scope and who needs a rifle?

Plus you can use the rest of your money to buy a reloader, powder, primers and shot. Decent shells can be used over and over again and are very easy to reload. Making your own riffle rounds is quite difficult.

Lastly, you will rarely have to clean your 870. Simply keep the barrel oiled with a standard gun oil twice a year to keep from rusting (even a rusted out 870 will shoot straight though). Rifles need to be cleaned, maintained and sighted regularly.

whatever u decide on, don't wait much longer. If a small nuke or dirty bomb goes off, martial law will be implemented and all gun stores will be closed.

So I feel like I've got it narrowed down to 2 choices. The 10/22 and a Ruger .40 SW----- OR ----- The Mini 14.

I don't really like shotguns,and my only experience with AR-15's was short lived because a DPMS wouldn't fire, and S&W kept jamming.

I would eventually like to get the G36 nomad conversion for the 10/22. The reviews on the pistol are good, and having something small is good for protecting a theater full of people from some "orange haired psychopath med school drop out."

I found a video of a guy talking about how there used to be accuracy issues with the Mini 14, and 3 or 4 years ago they brought back one of the original engineers and had them retool all of the machines that made them and it vastly improved the accuracy. I also like the Sparta Archangel stock conversion for the Mini.

As for the end of the world, well... we've survived it before.
I spent enough time as a boy scout lost in the middle of nowhere to know a thing or 2 about real survival that doesn't involve people trying to kill me. Having the right tools will always make the difference.

And my only reply to you Bible thumpers is to re-read the Old Testament and go bang your cousin, while you try to figure out how a man "who was wise in all of the ways of the Egyptians" had the power to manipulate water with a staff that displays the characteristics of a Tesla Coil, while the Ark of the covenant was actually an adjustable capacitor/transformer.

Your God is Electricity. It always has been in one way or another. People are pissed off because they don't have any.

There will always be a war between the AR and the Mini, people who claim the mini has accuracy problems are speaking from the past. People who speak of AR's jamming and always need a clean are speaking from today.

Minis are a very clean gun, reliable and trustworthy, but truly lack long distance range in Oregon only because of all the trees in the way.

Kieths sporting goods will sell you a new in box mini for 690.00. If you pay cash hell toss in a few 30 round ruger mags. Only use ruger mags, the rest are knockoffs.

( like a lot of AR parts )

Nothing wrong with an AR, it's just that you can't tell a good part from a cheap clone.

One final word....

Make sure if you decide to get the tactical, it is chambered for 5.56. A .223 will not long term fire a 556 without barrell issues but a chambered 556 will forever shoot 223

My suggestion from personal experience is the AR-15 which if you found a friend or a good place to deal with that can find a deal you could get it between 500 and 600. Then you can shoot the stopping power of .223 from a distance or close then pay like 100 bucks to get the conversion kit that allows you to run .22 great for dialing in, light defense, and hunting. This will not leave much of anything for ammo, but it would be my first suggestion.

Second would be more for the buck which I have seen others post and I suggest them for accuracy and stopping power all in the same, but cheap hi-point 9mm carbine. You can get for 150 or less. Get a scope for it ammo and then a 9 mm pistol like a s&w M&P or sigma so all ammo is versatile between the 2 and not have to buy different ammo. You should be able to get a 9 mm pistol for like 300 or 350 still have money left for ammo.

Just my take. Good luck been there.

This might clear things up as far as ammo for the Mini 14. The Mini-14 Target models will NOT SAFELY FIRE 5.56x45. These rifles are chambered ONLY for .223 Rem. All other Mini-14s will safely fire 5.56 NATO or .223 interchangeably. Confusion happens when people see .223/556 marked on some Mini's and just .223 on others. Some countries won't let Ruger sell one anymore with the 556 designation simply because it's considered a military round so they don't print it on the rifle but it is designed/built to fire either.

pfffff, those who suggest AR-15's most likely didnt spend time with them in combat with the m16 (same weapon).. If I got redeployd and had a choice give me a 10/22 or an AK hands down, 10/22 in THIS situation win s all day due to the availablity and inexpensive cost of ammo.. Plus, I know i can carry all my gear and 5000 rounds of 22LR comfortably, try carrying 5000 rounds of 223.. Ofcourse, just my opinion again.. Shotgun is about worthless, you dont want the target that close, if it is that close youre gonna need a whole lot more then the 8 shots you can squeak into that thing.. Close quaters id preffer either hand to hand or a nice 9/40/45.... Pick what you feel is right for you and youre situation, to get a DECENT AR youre going to be 1200 into it and thats a bare bones stock AR thats worth a damn (ie colt)... Although I will say there are some 22LR conversion kits out there for the AR which look pretty cool but still youre in the "if it gets dirty youre screwed situation"

Last Edited by sinco on 09/16/2012 05:15 PM

Squirt gun $5, spend the rest on food and a down coat.

You need a gun that can last you for the rest of your life and withstand anything.
Glock 9mm is easy and simple.

That is correct.

Target models are just that, plinkers!.

OP, what did you end up doing?

I have looked at the High Point .45 carbine. Nice gun.
The only gripe I have is that it doesnt take 1911 magazines.

This ^ Get the WASR Ak 47 for about 500 bucks. Mine even came with 4, 30 rnd clips and the folding stock. 200 more dollars will get you at least 500 rnds of 7.62x39mm

Otherwise you won't ever fail with a mini 14 or 30, I've got a Ruger 30 and love it as well. Only thing is 30 rnd clips are specific for these guns. So you can't swap between guns as much.

Best idea on here!

Ever hear of "sarcasm" cup cake ?

Some of us Armchair Commandos are Combat tested U.S.
Marines. The term would be "Veterans". Come and get my
Bushmaster M4...............PLEASE!
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Actually with the money you have you can probably get two. AK-47 WASR 10 and a RUGER P89 9mm pre ban high cap

AK = $400 +/-
Ruger $300 +/-

Both are cheap ammo. I have an AK and it's surprisingly accurate make sure you get double stack mag, single stack usually jam

SKS. Still a very reasonable buy for a quality rifle. Very nice .30 cal round that penetrates brush much better than a .22 or .223. and you still have enough money left over to buy a case of ammo.

A Supersoaker filled with mace.

This.

Ruger 10/22 $99
HiPoint .40 call carbine $300
Remington700 .308 bull barrel bolt action $300
Your all set...

Guns? What guns? You have guns?

This guy has it right.

I would also recommend a .22lg semi-auto rifle 10k of rounds and a .22lg single shot in case the aemi-breaks.

OP, who do you plan on shooting?

I'm serious OP. What do you want a gun for and I will tell you what I think is a good choice.