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Understanding the Banking Cartel

 
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Ben Bernanke and Mario Draghi must be absolutely terrified.

These two men, in the last two weeks, have both initiated open-ended bond buying programs. The purpose of these programs, aside from keeping insolvent banks in business, was to scare the markets into believing that no matter what happens, the Central Banks will be able to step in and support the financial system.


From a philosophical standpoint, this was Draghi’s and Bernanke’s “all in” moment. I won’t say they they’ve gone “nuclear,” as they have yet to truly monetize everything, but they’re not far from that.


And they’ve both failed.

[link to news.goldseek.com]
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The time to start preparing is now. The printers are running. The Great Currency Debasement has begun. Some folks will walk out of this mess winners. Most will walk out as losers.
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The real cause of the problems lies in the nature of our money system in which interest on money is charged. Interest causes wealth to concentrate as the poor pay interest to the rich. Interest can therefore be seen as a tax on poverty to the benefit of the rich. Money in the bank is backed by debt, so interest is a fraud that forces the poor into debt if the rich do not take the money out of their accounts and spend it. The following example demonstrates this and also that interest on money is unsustainable and leads to crisis:

If someone brought a 1/10 oz gold coin to the bank in the year 1 AD, and the money remained there until the year 2000 AD, collecting a yearly interest of 4%, the amount of gold in the account would have been 3.6 * 10^31 kilogramme of gold weighing 6,000,000 times the complete mass of the Earth.

When interest is charged on a limited scale or over a short timeframe then those problems do not surface. Interest is an insidious process. Over time it is inescapable that it reduces large numbers of people to a state of servitude to the money lenders. This is a long term development that transcends the life span of a human. Interest is the main reason why a number of civilisations have failed and why Western civilisation is about to fail. Therefore all interest is usury and the current financial system is a usury financial system. Interest is also the cause of inflation as more and more money has to be created to keep the economy going. To get an understanding of the issue, you can view the documentary "Money as Debt" on our current money system.
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You are wrong.

The REAL problem is fiat money which is a lie.
Wherever fiat money appears, misery soon follows.
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Dollar Index Headed for Rapid Collapse: Chart


Quantitative easing is really another word for currency wars. A weak U.S. currency puts continued pressure on the Japanese Yen, the Chinese Yuan, the South Korean Won, the Australian dollar and other currencies.

Cheap money also fuels speculation and this money quickly drifts into commodity markets and the ETFs that help propel commodity market speculation. This is inflationary for food prices.

The lower the U.S. dollar the greater the intensity of currency wars. The break below the key uptrend line on the Dollar Index chart was an early warning of the third round of quantitative easing (QE3). The most important question now is to use the chart to examine the potential downside limits of a QE3 weakened U.S. dollar.

:Dollar Index Sep:

There are three significant features on the weekly Dollar Index chart. The first feature is the uptrend line that started in September 2011.

One year later, in September 2012, the Dollar Index fell below this uptrend line. The weekly close below this uptrend line was the first signal of a major change in the trend direction. It came before the announcement of QE3, last week. Traders had good warning to move to the correct side of the new market trend by closing long side trades.

[link to www.cnbc.com]
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The REAL problem is fiat money which is a lie.
Wherever fiat money appears, misery soon follows.
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During the Great Depression the dollar was on gold. The bankers also control the supply of gold. Gold at one time was the banking system. Some believe it is best to have an interest free currency controlled by the state treasury. The US Constitution I believe says this should be backed by physical gold & silver.
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During the weekend, Deutsche Bank issued a report calling on investors to buy gold as an investment. Not only did they pound the table for the purchase of gold but they also called for a return of the gold standard.

[link to harveyorgan.blogspot.com]

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The on-budget debt of $15 trillion is peanuts compared to the $222 trillion of present-value net unfunded liabilities. But the mess is bad enough to warrant this article. (title and link below)

Nothing will change Congress. Nothing will change the executive. There will be no cutback in spending until the numbers force the Great Default.

Americans will not be ready. State and local governments will not be ready.

Will you be ready?

Five Mainstream Economists Sound a Warning
[link to lewrockwell.com]
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Standard and Poor's cut the United States' AAA-rating last year, and now the second shoe is about to drop.

Moody's recently announced it would downgrade our AAA credit rating by the end of the year if President Obama can't adopt a plan in conjunction with Congress to cut the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio. That ratio now exceeds 100% and imposes a burden and risk on future generations.

In July 2008 candidate Obama declared the $4 trillion in debt racked up during Bush's eight years "irresponsible" and "unpatriotic." After getting elected, Obama publicly said in February 2009, "I'm pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office."

Subsequently, Obama walked back and supported policies that drove four straight years of record deficits, averaging over $1.25 trillion a year — 63% higher than the worst single-year deficit of any previous administration. While GDP output has hardly budged and fewer Americans work today than at the beginning of the Obama administration, the national debt has grown by 51% — from $10.6 trillion to $16 trillion.

Out-of-control spending and debt, plus the declining creditworthiness of the U.S., are vital issues facing voters in November. This is the view of Mike Mullen, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a military man with a keen sense of history. "Our national debt," he has said, "is our biggest national security threat."
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We are headed toward $18.8 trillion in debt. That will take $743 billion in interest payments.
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Bernanke Sent Out 'Thank You for Supporting Federal Reserve Secrecy' Letters to Key Congressmen

In July, the Fed chairman sent thank you notes to five Democratic members of Congress after they delivered speeches on the House floor urging fellow lawmakers to reject Ron Paul's “Audit the Fed” bill, reports Politico.

The letters were sent to Reps. Barney Frank, Elijah Cummings, Melvin Watt, Carolyn Maloney and Steny Hoyer.

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According to the OCC, Citibank has increased their exposure to silver derivatives MASSIVELY over the first two quarters of 2012. Here's the facts on table 9 (PREC METALS is mainly Silver):

1/1/2012 $44 million

3/31/2012 $5.7 Billion

6/30/2012 $9.5 Billion

[link to www.occ.gov]


At $35/oz the $9.5B represents 270M ounces of silver derivatives added in the first 2 quarters of 2012.

Remember, it was March 2012 when JP Morgan's troubles began in their derivative book with the "London Whale". The rumors are that these derivatives are linked to silver. This is the same time that Blythe Masters had to come on TV to declare that they don't rig the silver market. This is also the same time that Citbank began to build it's monument to silver derivatives rapidly catching up to JP Morgan.
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If the banks were JUST BANKS and satisfied with making money the old fashioned way, we would not have these problems. But they want to be hedge funds with other people’s money keeping all the profits for themselves. They then use their primary dealer status to threaten the Feds that they will collapse if they are not bailed out for every failed trade. They then have the audacity to claim they make money because they are smarter than everyone else. That is true. But not regarding trading. They did a reverse takeover of the Feds and control every committee. That is damn smart.

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Via a ZeroHedge piece, the exchanges, led by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange with the New York Stock Exchange and NASDAQ right behind, will never, ever, ever do ANYTHING to stop the High Frequency Trading (computers trading in and out in milliseconds which have destroyed the markets) because they are making a massive percentage of their money off of the HFT trades, most of which are illegal, made possible by illegal order placement and illegal under-margining by HFT firms.
Karl Denninger laid it all out in an excellent post earlier this morning,HFT: STILL DANCING AROUND THE ISSUE

With each passing day as more and more human beings realize that the markets are not only dead from a Rule of Law perspective, but also because the HFTs are prison raping anyone and everyone they can and the Exchanges happily facilitate and encourage this raping of the Muppets (that's you), the percentage of the Exchanges' revenue that is coming from HFT is increasing on an exponential curve.

Bottom line: The HFTs are, for all intents and purposes, all that the Exchanges have left, and they will cling to them, protect them and enable them until the system finally goes no-bid and implodes instantly and catastrophically because these people are all evil, batshit crazy psychopaths. Terry Duffy will never surrender for exactly the same reason Hitler didn't surrender.

If you are still in or exposed to the markets in any way, you are basically swinging on a star that is going to go supernova and then implode into a black hole AT ANY MOMENT. There is no going back. The outcome is an absolute mathematical and metaphysical certainty. You can't stop a supernova. The Exchanges can not be saved. You have to get out and get as far away from the blast as possible, and then just hope that you don't get sucked into the resulting black hole anyway.

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I still wish there was a way to get out of my 401k before it all evaporates. They sell these things with the promise of company matching funds and ability to borrow a portion of the total. But they never tell you that they benefit more than you ever will, because even if you are lucky enough to retire, they still pay out YOUR OWN MONEY in installments. But if it were really your own money, they could not penalize you heavily (or forbid completely) for closing it prematurely. You literally have to die before that money is ripped from their greedy fists.

At this point I'd be happy to pay off the predatory IRS fees just to get some part of the money while it can still be sold for PMs.
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Some advocate cashing out of your plans, pay the penalty, and invest in physical metals (in-hand). I am considering this options. Any thoughts?
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I've asked several different financial advisers, who don't have any vested interest in my funds, about any way to get out of a 401k, and they all say that it cannot be done. APMEX keeps advertising that they'll make it easy to put retirement plans into PMs, so they were motivated to help me, but they couldn't. Other plans don't have such restrictions; it seems to be unique to 401k.
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Hope we can find out of a way - any legal or financial analyst on here who can help?
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Bernanke Says Fed to Keep Rates Low Even After Economy Picks Up

[link to finance.yahoo.com]

"Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke renewed a pledge to sustain record stimulus even after the U.S. expansion gains strength, while saying policy makers don't expect the economy to remain weak through 2015."

"We expect that a highly accommodative stance of monetary policy will remain appropriate for a considerable time after the economy strengthens," Bernanke said today in the text of a speech in Indianapolis. Policy makers' forecast to hold the main interest rate near zero until at least mid-2015 "doesn't mean that we expect the economy to be weak through" that year."

Never has a Fed Chairman told such a bold truth...there will be no end to money printing. All other statements from all Fed Chairmen over the years have had end dates and yet none of the end dates ever came...but they still said it. They still said it was only temporary because that's how the game was played.
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How Many Times Can Jeffrey Christian Be Wrong?!

I just can't let this one go. Jefferey Christian is a Banking Cabal spokesman who's job it is is to put silver investors off the trail and keep the market rigging mechanism going. He is the SELF PROCLAIMED inventor and promoter of gold and silver derivative markets. He has told all his clients to short silver and they are all bleeding losses.

Here's this moron talking to BNN on August 7th saying that anyone who thinks the silver market is rigged is just a conspiracy theorist. Check out his prediction for silver...

[link to watch.bnn.ca]

Listen to what this TOOL say about the price of silver starting at 3:15 into the interview..

"We think it's going to breakdown the low side. Our expectation is that it's going to go down to $25 or $24 over the next couple months. And basically trade between $22 and $29 or $30 over the rest of the year."

And he goes on to say that the silver price will trade between $20 and $28 over the next 2 years!

This man is either the stupidest analyst in the history of investing...OR HE IS CORRUPT AND TRYING TO PROTECT THE BANKING CABAL.

Given that he gets 99% of his funding from the banksters which do you think it is?!
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"We think it's going to breakdown the low side. Our expectation is that it's going to go down to $25 or $24 over the next couple months. And basically trade between $22 and $29 or $30 over the rest of the year."

And he goes on to say that the silver price will trade between $20 and $28 over the next 2 years!

 Quoting: No Dhimmi


So, do you think they'll be able to simply dictate the price, such that this is what we can count on? If so, great news for stackers, who should plan to get more in the next months.
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I think they can dictate the price only until they lose control of the market - once the naked short practice comes to an end (due to most demanding their physical metals) we will see a resumption of free market PM prices.
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I think they can dictate the price only until they lose control of the market - once the naked short practice comes to an end (due to most demanding their physical metals) we will see a resumption of free market PM prices.
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Any gut feeling or educated guess as to when they lose control? Or any particular "sign" to look for that would signal this?
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I think they can dictate the price only until they lose control of the market - once the naked short practice comes to an end (due to most demanding their physical metals) we will see a resumption of free market PM prices.
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Any gut feeling or educated guess as to when they lose control? Or any particular "sign" to look for that would signal this?
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The Fed can truly make us insane with their ability to keep the game going - my best guess is they lose control around August of 2015.
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I think they can dictate the price only until they lose control of the market - once the naked short practice comes to an end (due to most demanding their physical metals) we will see a resumption of free market PM prices.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Any gut feeling or educated guess as to when they lose control? Or any particular "sign" to look for that would signal this?
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


The Fed can truly make us insane with their ability to keep the game going - my best guess is they lose control around August of 2015.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Thanks... it's pretty much futile to just watch the charts and trends when they basically depend on what some cockroach had for breakfast.

Considering all the other doom-related events though, such as the Louisiana sinkhole or other possible false flag to excuse martial law and quick overt confiscation of property, nothing much would matter at that point except whatever we already have and can hang on to, including food/water etc. So it would seem best at this point to just gather whatever we can, regardless of price.

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Agree, stack as much as you can - as long as you also prep with long term food / water and plans for various outcomes.
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Holy Cow! The Bank Participation Report for the month of September was just released and it's a DOOZY! The top 4 US banks are up to their NECKS in COMEX Shorts! In the month of September they added 9,024 contracts of net shorts or over 45M ounces but the price still rose over 10%!!!

Here's the data:

[link to www.cftc.gov]

How can the CFTC say that these 45M ounces of silver sold by just a few entities NOT be manipulative?
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