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FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people

 
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And the great 'prophet' morehamhead takes hold of the situation and it's like the village in 'Army of Darkness'. Bunch of primitive screwheads.
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lulz at the army of darkness reference...
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Part of this downfall was Caused by the Soviet invasion and War.
Yet Fundamentalist Islam is also partly to blame
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5583279


Sent in by the globalists to move Islam into the west. They had to destroy & destabilize the entire region.

USSR-Afghan War 1979-1989
US-Iraq GW I 1990 (10 years of sanctions and no fly zone)
US-Iraq GW II 2001-2011
US-Afghan 2001-ongoing

2011 Washington backed Muslim Brotherhood led revolutions:

Tunisia
Yemen
Libya
Egypt
Syria
Iran?
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Part of this downfall was Caused by the Soviet invasion and War.
Yet Fundamentalist Islam is also partly to blame
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5583279


Sent in by the globalists to move Islam into the west. They had to destroy & destabilize the entire region.

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bsflag

Complete unadulterated bullshit.
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Part of this downfall was Caused by the Soviet invasion and War.
Yet Fundamentalist Islam is also partly to blame
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5583279


Part of it? It was the complete downfall of afghanistan that removed any functioning organization and led to a tribal society of uneducated islamitards killing eachother ever since.

Communism completely destroys societies and it takes a very long time to recover even without a constant state of warfare and* lots of western aid and influence.

Look at Germany itself. Western Germany is incredibly prosperous while eastern Germany is still a poor hellhole that resembles Russia more than Germany.

Communism is simply a return to feudalism.
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Politicized Islam began to get a hold in the 50's in the universities, mostly founded by the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 60's Afghanistan adopted a more Liberal constitution. Early 70's the Islamics gained enough to outnumber the communists in the universities...by the late 70's the Communist peoples party govt and the Islamic movment began to fight...the USSR invaded in 79 to back the govt...the rest is pretty much history...
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Yup. And you're country is well on it's way joining them. Poetic Justice
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
this is like saying the 1950's United States was 'secular', because of their immense prosperity.

It was their Muslim values that made them properous, secularism destroyed them, the Muslim fundamentalists were a reaction to obvious, wicked, malevolent forces, coming against them, to destroy them. Just like if we had any real intelligent Christians, they would be reacting to the obvious demonic forces seething all around us, and urinating on us from high places.

They KNOW who is responsible. They KNOW it is Satan. Americans don't know it yet, but they will sink so far down they will go nuts and start believing in God again, when they are so miserable and dirty and starving they all want to cry all day long.
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Part of this downfall was Caused by the Soviet invasion and War.
Yet Fundamentalist Islam is also partly to blame
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5583279


Sent in by the globalists to move Islam into the west. They had to destroy & destabilize the entire region.

USSR-Afghan War 1979-1989
US-Iraq GW I 1990 (10 years of sanctions and no fly zone)
US-Iraq GW II 2001-2011
US-Afghan 2001-ongoing

2011 Washington backed Muslim Brotherhood led revolutions:

Tunisia
Yemen
Libya
Egypt
Syria
Iran?
 Quoting: Klink 23970153


btw, how is Washington backing revolution in Yemen when they are bombing the holy hell out of the revolutionary islamatards?

Ghadafi had to go and the Muslim Brotherhood lost the election in libya, so yes you are a tard.

The US did the complete opposite of backing the Egyptian revolutionaries, we supported the dictator mubarak for decades. Same thing that happened to Iran and how that once great nation was destroyed, we installed a dictator and it destroyed their society.

We aren't doing anything to support the Syria rebels. However our Gulf allies are.

And we had nothing to do with Tunisia.


You are dumb.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
this is like saying the 1950's United States was 'secular', because of their immense prosperity.

It was their Muslim values that made them properous, secularism destroyed them, the Muslim fundamentalists were a reaction to obvious, wicked, malevolent forces, coming against them, to destroy them. Just like if we had any real intelligent Christians, they would be reacting to the obvious demonic forces seething all around us, and urinating on us from high places.

They KNOW who is responsible. They KNOW it is Satan. Americans don't know it yet, but they will sink so far down they will go nuts and start believing in God again, when they are so miserable and dirty and starving they all want to cry all day long.
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1950's United States was secular. Hence we didn't follow ANY biblical law whatsoever. Just like the United States never has thankfully.

Apparently you don't know the difference between a secular state and a theocracy.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
Politicized Islam began to get a hold in the 50's in the universities, mostly founded by the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 60's Afghanistan adopted a more Liberal constitution. Early 70's the Islamics gained enough to outnumber the communists in the universities...by the late 70's the Communist peoples party govt and the Islamic movment began to fight...the USSR invaded in 79 to back the govt...the rest is pretty much history...
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Wasn't just Islamists fighting the communists.

The Northern Alliance was not Islamist.
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OP is an idiot. Afghanistan has been Muslim and just as traditional as it is today - and for a very loing time. What you are seeing is before the Soviets and now the US/NATO decided to try to invade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142961


No there was a point when the Taliban took control and women could. no longer continue their careers, had to quit their jobs and stay home. They had to rely on male relatives to provide them food and pay their housing, everything. It was an awful tragic time, the 1990's I believe.
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they didn't call him poppy bush for nothin
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
this is like saying the 1950's United States was 'secular', because of their immense prosperity.

It was their Muslim values that made them properous, secularism destroyed them, the Muslim fundamentalists were a reaction to obvious, wicked, malevolent forces, coming against them, to destroy them. Just like if we had any real intelligent Christians, they would be reacting to the obvious demonic forces seething all around us, and urinating on us from high places.

They KNOW who is responsible. They KNOW it is Satan. Americans don't know it yet, but they will sink so far down they will go nuts and start believing in God again, when they are so miserable and dirty and starving they all want to cry all day long.
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THAT is some crazyass shit there dood...maybe you got a DEMON in YOU or sumthin!....DEVIL MAN!!!!

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I watched a doco which showed Saudi Arabia trained the militants there.

Their beliefs are those of the Saudis.
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If you follow the money trail, you'll always find the Saudis at one end of it. Oh no but they're our "friends". sheep
Occam's Razor, morans!
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islam has been in afghanistan for 1300 years idiot morons

It is the west that destroys islamic nations for the past 50 years to ensure Israeli supremacy over the middle east

prosperous afghan? send soviet union in and radicalise the muslims via puppet saudi help

prosperous iraq? put communist abdul karim qasim and then saddam hussein to destroy the country one step at a time

prosperous lebanon? create civil war for 15 years

prosperous saudi? oh they have oil and they work for us, puppets no need to kill them yet, they created radical islam and al qaeda for us

prosperous egypt? psy ops wars and destruction from within followed by puppet dictator

prosperous libya? false revolution

prosperous nuclear iran? incoming destruction

jordan is a good puppet
turkey a good puppet and frontline cannon fodder for NATO
gulf countries = puppets
palestine = almost wiped out
tunisia and morocco = westernized
indonsasia = too far to be a threat to israel
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And the great 'prophet' morehamhead takes hold of the situation and it's like the village in 'Army of Darkness'. Bunch of primitive screwheads.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
Politicized Islam began to get a hold in the 50's in the universities, mostly founded by the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 60's Afghanistan adopted a more Liberal constitution. Early 70's the Islamics gained enough to outnumber the communists in the universities...by the late 70's the Communist peoples party govt and the Islamic movment began to fight...the USSR invaded in 79 to back the govt...the rest is pretty much history...
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Wasn't just Islamists fighting the communists.

The Northern Alliance was not Islamist.
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The UF...aka Northern alliance wasn't formed until 1996...and yes they were Islamic...they were just different tribes than the Taliban, who they formed up to resist, not the Soviets.
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And their favorite TV show was "Leave it To Ishmail"
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LIBERAL & SECULAR ----------> GOOD
CONSERVATIVE & RELIGIOUS ---------> BAD
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Either is okay - until one or the other category starts murdering people with a different belief system from their's. And historically both categories have caused murder and mayhem.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
OP is an idiot. Afghanistan has been Muslim and just as traditional as it is today - and for a very loing time. What you are seeing is before the Soviets and now the US/NATO decided to try to invade.
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No, they were under a king who encouraged secularism and modernization but the Afghan royalty was defeated by the mullahs.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
Part of this downfall was Caused by the Soviet invasion and War.
Yet Fundamentalist Islam is also partly to blame
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5583279


Sent in by the globalists to move Islam into the west. They had to destroy & destabilize the entire region.

 Quoting: Klink 23970153


bsflag

Complete unadulterated bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21549080


Yet that is what happened. Islam began to emigrate into the west, including to the USSR. The USSR supported this as an attack on the Orthodox.

The way to know the motivation for the wars is simply to look at the outcome.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
islam has been in afghanistan for 1300 years idiot morons

It is the west that destroys islamic nations for the past 50 years to ensure Israeli supremacy over the middle east

prosperous afghan? send soviet union in and radicalise the muslims via puppet saudi help

prosperous iraq? put communist abdul karim qasim and then saddam hussein to destroy the country one step at a time

prosperous lebanon? create civil war for 15 years

prosperous saudi? oh they have oil and they work for us, puppets no need to kill them yet, they created radical islam and al qaeda for us

prosperous egypt? psy ops wars and destruction from within followed by puppet dictator

prosperous libya? false revolution

prosperous nuclear iran? incoming destruction

jordan is a good puppet
turkey a good puppet and frontline cannon fodder for NATO
gulf countries = puppets
palestine = almost wiped out
tunisia and morocco = westernized
indonsasia = too far to be a threat to israel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1767571


Some of this is true and that is why I do like when Ron Paul talks on foreign policy. However, some is bullshit.

1) The West had a cold war for decades before the Soviet Union went to Afghanistan. We funded the Muj to fight the commies. It worked but now look at the situation. We have to take SOME of the blame for the current state of Afghanistan, but the West sure as shit did not send the Soviet Union there.

2) We did support the Ba'ath Party of Iraq. Something that should have never been done.

3)Egypt. I am with you. I wouldn't have even supported Israel, the Arabs would have made for the better allies, particularly the Egyptians at the time. No going back now. Noway you are going to get American opinion against Israel. And yes we supported a ruthless dictator for decades (mubarak) just to keep the peace with Israel. Something else that should not have been done.


4) Libya was not prosperous. Some people were, most were not. The revolution was a popular revolution whether you choose to believe it or not and Obama did the right thing. I think Ghaddafi met a fitting end. The man had serious mental issues and his family needed to be removed from power.

5) Lebanon. Not sure how we created the civil war, however without Israel there would not have been and I would have never support Israel to begin with, but it is here and because it is does not mean the West created your civil war.

6)The situation in Iran is 100% our fault. This debate could rage, anyone who wants to have it with me is free to do so. We have been fucking over Iran since 53.

7) Jordan is a good puppet but it is the Hashemites own retarded people who support them so blame them. Joseph de Maistre who wrote in 1811 "Every nation gets the government it deserves."

8) Turkey has done a lot for NATO and should be rewarded with admission into the EU. Not sure what else it is you are complaining about. Turkey gets benefits to being in NATO

9) What has been done to Palestine is a disgrace to humanity and we are partially to blame for our support of the Israelis.

10) the gulf countries were in power before they were our "puppets". The House of Saud fought a civil war for their country and influence in the region during the 20s. We had nothing to do with it. Blame your own people for supporting such a retard monarchy.

11) Morocco had that retard monarchy long before the United States had its say. Blame the retarded people of the country who support a "king".

12) not sure what you mean about Tunisia. We didn't have anything to do with that shithole either.

13) Indonesia. Actually my family used to live there when it was a colony of the Dutch. So personally my family did have a hand in enslaving that country. Japs kicked them out though along with the natives. Hadn't had much to do with Indonesia since.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
Part of this downfall was Caused by the Soviet invasion and War.
Yet Fundamentalist Islam is also partly to blame
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5583279


Sent in by the globalists to move Islam into the west. They had to destroy & destabilize the entire region.

 Quoting: Klink 23970153


bsflag

Complete unadulterated bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21549080


Yet that is what happened. Islam began to emigrate into the west, including to the USSR. The USSR supported this as an attack on the Orthodox.

The way to know the motivation for the wars is simply to look at the outcome.
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No it is not. The USSR was NOT the "West". USSR already wiped out the Orthodox church just as the wiped out Islam in their satellite nations.

You are way out their and don't even have a basic understand of history.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
Politicized Islam began to get a hold in the 50's in the universities, mostly founded by the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 60's Afghanistan adopted a more Liberal constitution. Early 70's the Islamics gained enough to outnumber the communists in the universities...by the late 70's the Communist peoples party govt and the Islamic movment began to fight...the USSR invaded in 79 to back the govt...the rest is pretty much history...
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Good explanation, SHR.
Thanks.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
Politicized Islam began to get a hold in the 50's in the universities, mostly founded by the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 60's Afghanistan adopted a more Liberal constitution. Early 70's the Islamics gained enough to outnumber the communists in the universities...by the late 70's the Communist peoples party govt and the Islamic movment began to fight...the USSR invaded in 79 to back the govt...the rest is pretty much history...
 Quoting: SHR


Wasn't just Islamists fighting the communists.

The Northern Alliance was not Islamist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21549080


The UF...aka Northern alliance wasn't formed until 1996...and yes they were Islamic...they were just different tribes than the Taliban, who they formed up to resist, not the Soviets.
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No, the Northern Alliance wasn't called the Northern Alliance until the 90s. They were still there fighting the communists. Including the lion of Panjshir. He was one of those University students you speak of and was a muslim but no Islamist.

The Northern Tribes or Northern Alliance fought the Islamists long before we ever did. They support dance and musical festivals and all kinds of culture including ancient buddhist sites.

Learn before you speak.
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Re: FALLING INTO BARBARISM: Look at Afghanistan circa 1960 - before they reverted to being primitive hill people
Politicized Islam began to get a hold in the 50's in the universities, mostly founded by the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 60's Afghanistan adopted a more Liberal constitution. Early 70's the Islamics gained enough to outnumber the communists in the universities...by the late 70's the Communist peoples party govt and the Islamic movment began to fight...the USSR invaded in 79 to back the govt...the rest is pretty much history...
 Quoting: SHR


Wasn't just Islamists fighting the communists.

The Northern Alliance was not Islamist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21549080


The UF...aka Northern alliance wasn't formed until 1996...and yes they were Islamic...they were just different tribes than the Taliban, who they formed up to resist, not the Soviets.
 Quoting: SHR


No, the Northern Alliance wasn't called the Northern Alliance until the 90s. They were still there fighting the communists. Including the lion of Panjshir. He was one of those University students you speak of and was a muslim but no Islamist.

The Northern Tribes or Northern Alliance fought the Islamists long before we ever did. They support dance and musical festivals and all kinds of culture including ancient buddhist sites.

Learn before you speak.
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Part of this downfall was Caused by the Soviet invasion and War.
Yet Fundamentalist Islam is also partly to blame
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5583279


Sent in by the globalists to move Islam into the west. They had to destroy & destabilize the entire region.

USSR-Afghan War 1979-1989
US-Iraq GW I 1990 (10 years of sanctions and no fly zone)
US-Iraq GW II 2001-2011
US-Afghan 2001-ongoing

2011 Washington backed Muslim Brotherhood led revolutions:

Tunisia
Yemen
Libya
Egypt
Syria
Iran?
 Quoting: Klink 23970153


btw, how is Washington backing revolution in Yemen when they are bombing the holy hell out of the revolutionary islamatards?

Ghadafi had to go and the Muslim Brotherhood lost the election in libya, so yes you are a tard.

The US did the complete opposite of backing the Egyptian revolutionaries, we supported the dictator mubarak for decades. Same thing that happened to Iran and how that once great nation was destroyed, we installed a dictator and it destroyed their society.

We aren't doing anything to support the Syria rebels. However our Gulf allies are.

And we had nothing to do with Tunisia.


You are dumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21549080


Says you.. wrong on all counts.

The US backed the Saudis to attack & destabilize Yemen.

The new Libyan PM was backed by MB.
[link to www.theblogmocracy.com]

Egypt's new security council was formed with the MB, and their leader was elected president of Egypt.
[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com]

Supported Mubarak? Yes. Then came time to destabilize the region and cause this mass-emigration of Islam into the west. Same as Libya.

We are not supporting the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood rebels, Washington is. Both ran by the Freemason's conspiracy.

Washington allied with Muslim Brotherhood

[link to www.redmoonrising.com]

[link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com]

The Muslim Brotherhood have formed the opposition Council in Syria

May 6, 2012
ISTANBUL - At a meeting of Syria's opposition, Muslim Brotherhood officials gather round Marxists colleagues, nudging them to produce policy statements for the Syrian National Council, the main political group challenging President Bashar al-Assad.
[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
July 20
[link to www.breitbart.com]





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