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IVF babies with THREE genetic parents..already born!..Now Public opinion sought on legalizing GM BABIES in UK

 
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IVF babies with THREE genetic parents..already born!..Now Public opinion sought on legalizing GM BABIES in UK
What they say could pave the way to a landmark change in the law as early as next year that would affect future generations.
The controversy surrounds "uncharted territory" techniques aimed at preventing a special category of diseases caused by inherited genes.
They involve children being conceived with the help of a third genetic "parent" - a woman whose donated egg provides a source of replacement healthy DNA. A baby created this way would have a full compliment of nuclear DNA from its mother and father, plus a tiny amount of donated mitochondrial DNA.

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Last Edited by taniatarn on 09/17/2012 05:21 AM
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Re: IVF babies with THREE genetic parents..already born!..Now Public opinion sought on legalizing GM BABIES in UK
What they say could pave the way to a landmark change in the law as early as next year that would affect future generations.
The controversy surrounds "uncharted territory" techniques aimed at preventing a special category of diseases caused by inherited genes.
They involve children being conceived with the help of a third genetic "parent" - a woman whose donated egg provides a source of replacement healthy DNA. A baby created this way would have a full compliment of nuclear DNA from its mother and father, plus a tiny amount of donated mitochondrial DNA.

[link to www.google.com]
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Critics say it's wrong to tamper with the sanctity of life and consequences for future generations are uncertain

A law change would allow for children to be ‘designed’ to be free of horrific diseases that can kill within hours of birth.
The children would effectively have two mothers and one father.

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WOW..

World's first GM babies born

The disclosure that 30 healthy babies were born after a series of experiments in the United States provoked another furious debate about ethics.
So far, two of the babies have been tested and have been found to contain genes from three 'parents'.

Altering the human germline - in effect tinkering with the very make-up of our species - is a technique shunned by the vast majority of the world's scientists.

Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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WOW..

World's first GM babies born

The disclosure that 30 healthy babies were born after a series of experiments in the United States provoked another furious debate about ethics.
So far, two of the babies have been tested and have been found to contain genes from three 'parents'.

Altering the human germline - in effect tinkering with the very make-up of our species - is a technique shunned by the vast majority of the world's scientists.

Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: taniatarn


Last year, Professor Cohen said that his expertise would allow him to clone children --a prospect treated with horror by the mainstream scientific community.
'It would be an afternoon's work for one of my students
,' he said, adding that he had been approached by 'at least three' individuals wishing to create a cloned child, but had turned down their requests.


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All this crap is just a ploy to get every conception to be a billable medical event the same way every thing you do for prenatal on is. Do you really think the industry that brought you recommendations that smoking was good for you, then bad for you, that brings you magic wonder pills of the future that repeatedly are found to cause horrible side effects years down the line, do you really think they'll make it all better?
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All this crap is just a ploy to get every conception to be a billable medical event the same way every thing you do for prenatal on is. Do you really think the industry that brought you recommendations that smoking was good for you, then bad for you, that brings you magic wonder pills of the future that repeatedly are found to cause horrible side effects years down the line, do you really think they'll make it all better?
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Of course not...and things always in some way come back to money- totally true!

Which is why this is so dangerous...he has already said that his employees can clone a baby in an afternoons work...that will be exploited.
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All this crap is just a ploy to get every conception to be a billable medical event the same way every thing you do for prenatal on is. Do you really think the industry that brought you recommendations that smoking was good for you, then bad for you, that brings you magic wonder pills of the future that repeatedly are found to cause horrible side effects years down the line, do you really think they'll make it all better?
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Of course not...and things always in some way come back to money- totally true!

Which is why this is so dangerous...he has already said that his employees can clone a baby in an afternoons work...that will be exploited.
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Thanks for the pin! I have been expecting to hear of GM children for years now....it has always been so controversial but was inevitable.
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Those that do believe in God know that time is growing short.

Everything in nature is in perfect harmony until man

destroys the cycles and paths of nature. We are destroying

all the gifts that we were given and it truly breaks my heart

to see the destruction and its magnitude these days.
"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM
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Wouldn't there be problems with inbreeding? I've always wondered about that with the amount of adoption and sperm donating going on, you could be inbreeding with a relative without even knowing.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
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Wouldn't there be problems with inbreeding? I've always wondered about that with the amount of adoption and sperm donating going on, you could be inbreeding with a relative without even knowing.
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I think thats the most concerning thing...who knows what it could lead to....its going a step too far..
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this doesn't really matter if we were tinkered with by alien scientists to begin with... some 200000 years ago.
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Re: IVF babies with THREE genetic parents..already born!..Now Public opinion sought on legalizing GM BABIES in UK
What they say could pave the way to a landmark change in the law as early as next year that would affect future generations.
The controversy surrounds "uncharted territory" techniques aimed at preventing a special category of diseases caused by inherited genes.
They involve children being conceived with the help of a third genetic "parent" - a woman whose donated egg provides a source of replacement healthy DNA. A baby created this way would have a full compliment of nuclear DNA from its mother and father, plus a tiny amount of donated mitochondrial DNA.

[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: taniatarn


I think it's ok as long as it prevents to generate down syndrome retards and other type of cretins.
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This is like the raelians, isnt it? Dont they eant babies to be cloned?
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Just so I'm clear, you are Tauranga's sock puppet right?
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It's OK to create autistic children with immunizations and all kinds of disabilties with GM foods but don't try and eliminate disease genetically.
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Who's your mama?
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If the parents' DNA is so inadequate maybe they should adopt.
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If the parents' DNA is so inadequate maybe they should adopt.
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iamwith
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If the parents' DNA is so inadequate maybe they should adopt.
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O.k., whatever. Have a mutant baby.
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No thank you, not that my opinion will stop this.

GM babies are just so wrong.
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The hearts of mankind really do contain evil. All of this stuff is being labeled as "good" and therefore wayward mankind will relentlessly keep pursuing evil, thinking that it's "good". They've so turned all of us onto the love of sin that we cannot see that we suffer these things because of our choices. Choosing evil just brings death and misery. Tampering with life is just so morally wrong.
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Wouldn't there be problems with inbreeding? I've always wondered about that with the amount of adoption and sperm donating going on, you could be inbreeding with a relative without even knowing.
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Lol. Coming from adopted backgrounds, my partner and myself both paused when we were asked if we were related to each other in the marriage interview.

Getting a few DNA markers compared, if it wasn't such a privacy concern, might not be the worst thing for people to do before breeding or borrowing egg/sperm from banks.
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Genetically modified human DNA Organisms are not Natural Humans and should be destroyed...

Along with the people the support or make this happen... does not matter if the make laws for or it or lobby for it or donate money to it... They should all be destroyed for threatening the destruction of Humans and Human DNA as god intended...

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