Two Ex Porn Stars say rape is common in porn

Generalize much? "You guys"? I doubt many of us on here have ever even come close to committing rape.

I agree with lots of what you say, but it is certain people who are evil and do disgusting things, not all men.

No, the 'you guys' was not related to committing rape. It is related to owning up to and acknowledging that men not dealing with their internal issues (like anger, like control issues etc) can have a real, and damaging impact on those more vulnerable. The 'you guys' was also related to those guys that post how ALL Western women are terrible (as referenced in the first sentence) without acknowledging that SOME (porn addicted etc.) men are pretty awful too.

No, the 'you guys' was not related to committing rape. It is related to owning up to and acknowledging that men not dealing with their internal issues (like anger, like control issues etc) can have a real, and damaging impact on those more vulnerable. The 'you guys' was also related to those guys that post how ALL Western women are terrible (as referenced in the first sentence) without acknowledging that SOME (porn addicted etc.) men are pretty awful too.

A way to skip the pain and still get a release. Somewhat the effect of growing within the belly of the beast I suppose. You can cry or you can take one wild ride. Either way you're still consumed, may as well enjoy it.

I don't share with your value system.

I think what they do is wrong. Marquis de Sade wrote about them. Pasolini made a critic about them.

They kill anyone who cross their way! And they EAT SHIT.

Maybe you HAVE to do it. But I am SMART ENOUGH NOT TO HAVE DO IT.

And you can bet every fiber of your being, that they HATE me for it! They want me to quit my job! They NEVER EVER LEAVE ME ALONE! THEY DONT ACKNOWLEDGE DEFEAT!! EVEN THOUGH IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!

An ex-phone-sex-operator that they CANT STAND.

BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHO THEY TRULY ARE.

(not this bullshit that Apollo vomits here. THEY LOVE VOMIT BY THE WAY - "ROMAN SHOWERS" = is that antique!!)

Try 30something years of never being left alone since your earliest days and likely even generations upon generations before you. Fighting always isn't possible, sometimes you just have to let the tide wash over and understand that you don't lose yourself just because you weren't always infinitely strong. You can always fight or you can curl up and rest with the beast so you can both wake up refreshed to start the cycle of resistance again. We aren't all blessed with degrees of separation.

Men post threads here all the time about how messed up women are.
But this thread proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that lots of men are severely fucked in the head.

Most women in porn, statistically, have been sexually abused.
(This could include mk ultra.)
Lots have drug addictions because of their shitty childhoods, and being abused by more men as they get older.

You men are not acknowledging that women are abused and disrespected A LOT.

A porn actress should not be raped. A prostitute should not be raped. A boy scout should not be raped. NO ONE should be raped. But it is mostly men who rape, taking out their anger and control issues on someone more vulnerable.

This is the issue that you guys are not owning up to.

You have a horrible horrible world view!!

Thank god we don't know eachother!

Fuck these filthy whores I don't feel sorry for the ugly whores no one forced them to fuck for money.

Fuck these filthy whores I don't feel sorry for the ugly whores no one forced them to fuck for money.

Freaking moron.

Judging from your above posts, so do you.

You are right.

But boys are victims too. They have to stop crying and though it up as they grow. They can't kiss everyobody anymore! They suffer a lot of issues too...

But yes! They are the ones who RAPE and dont' own up to anything.

Nor cook. Nor clean. Fuck up everything. Etc...

If you actually believe this, you are as twisted as the people you are bashing.

Sounds like we've got some real mass-debates going on here.

At least read the description of the video, quoting less than 50% here:

"The Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 (TVPA) defines "severe forms of human trafficking" as:

The recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for sex trafficking in which a commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion.

Human trafficking crimes, which are also defined in US Code Title 18, Chapter 77, focus on the act of compelling or coercing a person's labor, services, or commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological, but it must be used to coerce a victim into performing labor, services, or commercial sex acts.

And we, a group of former porn actresses, can prove it! We have hours and hours of countless video of women who are coerced and intimidated by males, verbally and physically abused, offered alcohol and drugs, raped and forced into commercial sex acts by agents, porn directors, porn producers, performers and pimps.

We also have our testimonies and we are NOT AFRAID to testify before Congress, DOJ, US Supreme Court, California State Capitol, LA City Council, LA County Board of Supervisors, courts of law and in fact we already have and we will again very soon. No matter how much the porn industry threatens, harasses or tries to defame us, we will not retreat."

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I am saying boys in general. Not any specific type of boy.

Why? Most boys don't stop kissing everyone that is not a woman pretty soon as they grow older? They can cry?

Tell me! Answer my questions!!

They talk too much, that's why they need dicks in their mouths...

How come I got an instant feeling of a "Christian Con" scenario here?

The most famous things like that are the fake Satanist stories, where people made up tales about how they were in a satanic cult and the horrors involved, pretending it was real to control other people.

This sounded like one of those for some reason.

I just didn't get a sense that these were trustworthy people at all.

*Which isn't to say there was no true tho what they said, but they certainly didn't seem to prove anything. They didn't even show clips to prove they were who they claimed to be, not even censored ones...

Anyone recognize them at all?

How come I got an instant feeling of a "Christian Con" scenario here?

The most famous things like that are the fake Satanist stories, where people made up tales about how they were in a satanic cult and the horrors involved, pretending it was real to control other people.

This sounded like one of those for some reason.

I just didn't get a sense that these were trustworthy people at all.

*Which isn't to say there was no true tho what they said, but they certainly didn't seem to prove anything. They didn't even show clips to prove they were who they claimed to be, not even censored ones...

Anyone recognize them at all?

Some good comments in there....

I would be willing to see it go though cause I think its impeding evolution now.

We gratify ourselves on a few percent of beautiful girls when in the past it was the Alpha males who won their affection and their bodies..

Instant gratification tricks the brain into thinking theres no effort of actual pursuing involved so it actually makes the brain lazy and lethargic.

Executives and the Elite know the weakening aspects of porn so one would be hard pressed to find a addict amongst them

James Cameron for example says he doesnt watch and look at how much he accomplishes. Steve Jobs of Apple was anti porn as well.

You have to have the pursue mentality to be a success these days and it involves a chase and hard work, something porn doesnt encourage. It gives one the lazy and passive brain instead of a aggressive one.

Try 30something years of never being left alone since your earliest days and likely even generations upon generations before you. Fighting always isn't possible, sometimes you just have to let the tide wash over and understand that you don't lose yourself just because you weren't always infinitely strong. You can always fight or you can curl up and rest with the beast so you can both wake up refreshed to start the cycle of resistance again. We aren't all blessed with degrees of separation.