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PM so soon you think Patoloco? They don't even have on seat in the parliament now right? Do they have any connection with Gulen? Religious parties governing a state can never be a good thing imho.
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PM so soon you think Patoloco? They don't even have on seat in the parliament now right? Do they have any connection with Gulen? Religious parties governing a state can never be a good thing imho.
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there are 2 well-known religious parties.both DON'T have seats in parliament.

1-SAADET : Numan kurtulmus was the head of this party for a few years but left it. Saadet Party was religious but absolutely anti-gloabalist party. Erbakan who established this party was a calm,moderate and anti-U.S person.

2-HAS PARTY: Numan Kurtulmus is head of this party for now. I read some of interviews of him after your post. He says "Gulen is a person above the parties,he has his own community in everywhere. Gulen is more buddy-like with Erdogan than us."
Also Erdogan called him to his party,first N.Kurtulmus gave green light but then changed his mind for a reason. I think, a new party will emerge instead of AKP. don't know..

but in 2014-2015 AKP or not , another religious party gonna win.this is still the mission of tptb as seems.
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Yeah, TPTB fucked up the ME with their latest movements and installing of religious govts, only tensions and doom can come out of this.:(
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PM so soon you think Patoloco? They don't even have on seat in the parliament now right? Do they have any connection with Gulen? Religious parties governing a state can never be a good thing imho.
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there are 2 well-known religious parties.both DON'T have seats in parliament.

1-SAADET : Numan kurtulmus was the head of this party for a few years but left it. Saadet Party was religious but absolutely anti-gloabalist party. Erbakan who established this party was a calm,moderate and anti-U.S person.

2-HAS PARTY: Numan Kurtulmus is head of this party for now. I read some of interviews of him after your post. He says "Gulen is a person above the parties,he has his own community in everywhere. Gulen is more buddy-like with Erdogan than us."
Also Erdogan called him to his party,first N.Kurtulmus gave green light but then changed his mind for a reason. I think, a new party will emerge instead of AKP. don't know..

but in 2014-2015 AKP or not , another religious party gonna win.this is still the mission of tptb as seems.
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Yeah, TPTB fucked up the ME with their latest movements and installing of religious govts, only tensions and doom can come out of this.:(
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IFUN guess what :) i think they really read GLP :) 4-5 hours after my post Numan Kurtulmus was on live news,He said he is closing HAS PARTY and will be on AKP(Erdogan's party).

He answers why he changed again his mind " Nat(ional Vision Movement (Islamist movement incl.all of them like Gulen-Akp-and others) need to be together and powerful,our vision and mission is nearly same,so i decided to pass AKP"
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If TPTB are reading GLP we are doomed!damned
Great info btw mate, thnx. I guess the secular Turks will not be happy with these news and this new Islamic policy.

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They are cutting peoples powers to resist, how they do it? of course by PKK. People are like "enough of that killings" they really dont have power to march/rally as a big numbers.So they wont say anything about the way Turkey going (looks like even seculars accepted it). because Army men,Journalists and other secular famous people jailed.. :/
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Yeah, psyops and terrorist attacks are getting out of hand lately, reporters being jailed and i was just recently told by another Turkish friend here that the police is using excessive violence lately. Just hope things won't go out of hand.
There is a rumor here and in Armenia the last few days, that Christian houses in Istanbul were marked with a green paint and Armenian houses were marked with red paint, Christian minority there is afraid of a new pogrom like 1955, hope these rumors are just rumors.:(
Have you heard anything about this?
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They are cutting peoples powers to resist, how they do it? of course by PKK. People are like "enough of that killings" they really dont have power to march/rally as a big numbers.So they wont say anything about the way Turkey going (looks like even seculars accepted it). because Army men,Journalists and other secular famous people jailed.. :/
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Yeah, psyops and terrorist attacks are getting out of hand lately, reporters being jailed and i was just recently told by another Turkish friend here that the police is using excessive violence lately. Just hope things won't go out of hand.
There is a rumor here and in Armenia the last few days, that Christian houses in Istanbul were marked with a green paint and Armenian houses were marked with red paint, Christian minority there is afraid of a new pogrom like 1955, hope these rumors are just rumors.:(
Have you heard anything about this?
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I didnt heard about it and there is no news about it. But In Adiyaman city(45) and Istanbul peoples houses (number of 25) was marked which are alawaite..
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damned
So they are marking Alewite houses too? This will sure provoke a social unrest imo. I didn't get the number part (45-25), is this how many houses were marked?
I'm sure there will be no official news about it, i'm just sharing with you a recent concerning rumor here.
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Yeah, psyops and terrorist attacks are getting out of hand lately, reporters being jailed and i was just recently told by another Turkish friend here that the police is using excessive violence lately. Just hope things won't go out of hand.
There is a rumor here and in Armenia the last few days, that Christian houses in Istanbul were marked with a green paint and Armenian houses were marked with red paint, Christian minority there is afraid of a new pogrom like 1955, hope these rumors are just rumors.:(
Have you heard anything about this?
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I didnt heard about it and there is no news about it. But In Adiyaman city(45) and Istanbul peoples houses (number of 25) was marked which are alawaite..
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damned
So they are marking Alewite houses too? This will sure provoke a social unrest imo. I didn't get the number part (45-25), is this how many houses were marked?
I'm sure there will be no official news about it, i'm just sharing with you a recent concerning rumor here.
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Yes 45 houses there and 25 houses in Istanbul. Thee officials talked about the marks. But -for now- nothing about your statemens, bro. Don't worry i will tell u if i find sth.
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I'm not worrying mate i know you will tell me if sth is up, i just asked if you know sth, if they marked Alewite houses there is a big chance the Christian houses marking being true imo.

I understand marking the Alewite houses in south Turkey, maybe some radicals from Syria we were talking about yesterday did it, but why would they do it in Istanbul too? Someone wants to provoke a sectarian riot methinks.
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In fact in east some cities population consist of %80 alewite population. The place of markings in Istanbul were in a conservative region

Alewites look like minority but there are some studies say 20 Million alewite population in Turkey.So if sth happens it will be really big.
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Yeah i know that they are 15 million for sure and they feel kinda oppressed already, thats why i asked why someone will want to do that unless he wants to provoke a further sectarian conflict. I agree it will be big and not good.

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