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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23166715 United States 09/17/2012 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely Brighter lately in the MidWest. There's no missing it in the early morning sky. Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286 Actually it's currently on a dimming trend, each day it is slightly dimmer than the last. Its brightness is in agreement with Danjon's formula. Well the next thing you will tell us is the sun isn't hotter or brighter. Look bro this time you let the cat out of the bag you really are a goverment shill. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely Brighter lately in the MidWest. There's no missing it in the early morning sky. Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286 Actually it's currently on a dimming trend, each day it is slightly dimmer than the last. Its brightness is in agreement with Danjon's formula. Well the next thing you will tell us is the sun isn't hotter or brighter. The data doesn't lie. If the sun were brighter, then Venus would be brighter too. Look bro this time you let the cat out of the bag you really are a goverment shill. Quoting: acBecause you say so? The truth doesn't work like that, the truth is I'm not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22052297 Canada 09/17/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely Brighter lately in the MidWest. There's no missing it in the early morning sky. Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286 Actually it's currently on a dimming trend, each day it is slightly dimmer than the last. Its brightness is in agreement with Danjon's formula. Well the next thing you will tell us is the sun isn't hotter or brighter. Look bro this time you let the cat out of the bag you really are a goverment shill. AGREED...WASNT 100% SURE TIL NOW.....its obviously brighter any moran can see it with their own eyes....its ALOT brighter...end of story |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23446673 United States 09/17/2012 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely Brighter lately in the MidWest. There's no missing it in the early morning sky. Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286 Actually it's currently on a dimming trend, each day it is slightly dimmer than the last. Its brightness is in agreement with Danjon's formula. That's right. I was looking at Venus at about 5 am local time and it did appear dimmer than it did even a few weeks ago. Nice post Doc. Had to read it twice to absoarb the info but it was worth it. |
****SUPERFLY**** User ID: 19055858 United States 09/17/2012 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely Brighter lately in the MidWest. There's no missing it in the early morning sky. Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286 Actually it's currently on a dimming trend, each day it is slightly dimmer than the last. Its brightness is in agreement with Danjon's formula. Well the next thing you will tell us is the sun isn't hotter or brighter. Look bro this time you let the cat out of the bag you really are a goverment shill. AGREED...WASNT 100% SURE TIL NOW.....its obviously brighter any moran can see it with their own eyes....its ALOT brighter...end of story No, it is not. Photometry proves it. I'm not a shill, and my proof debunking your claim is not evidence that I'm a shill either. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** The only thing that changed was the level of expectation that something is wrong wrong Venus' brightness. Subject assessment is subject to preconceived expectations. People expect things to look wrong with the sky, so that's what they perceive. That's why objective quantification is more valuable. |
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Reality420 User ID: 23400173 United States 09/17/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still agitating the chimps? That's just cruel... but funny. I was wondering what you were going to do about filtering for V since the filter isn't something I would think you'd have in your personal toolbox. 20" Planewave ... nice piece of equipment. I think Hap has a 12"(?) Planewave. I, personally, won't spend a dime on disabusing the PX/PoleShift/HMO psychos of their delusions. I find ridiculing them much more effective and satisfying. Have fun. R. |
Reality420 User ID: 23400173 United States 09/17/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You actually conducted a poll on this topic? Quoting: Cassandra's Echo Hilarious. The moon looks bigger, too. Quick, take a poll and start debunking! Are you still around? I'd have thought you'd be in your cave in Arkansas with your buddy Terrel the Bricklaying Astrophysicist. Don't you have an HMO to hide under the bed from? Let the drooling commence... R. |
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Daersoulkeeper User ID: 1159767 United States 09/17/2012 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the sun is brighter but i think uranus is as well the real reason most people on this planet are the most ignorant gullible people that have ever lived is a little thing called the TELL-LIE-VISION television when you watch it, you put the I(you) in television and you get tel(i)evision tell lie vision |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22616456 New Zealand 09/17/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good info astro. it may not be brighter then normal, but its brightness does vary, which may explain why people think its brighter? because it is...well it was. [link to apod.nasa.gov] |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was wondering what you were going to do about filtering for V since the filter isn't something I would think you'd have in your personal toolbox. Quoting: Reality420 23400173 Quite right. I wasn't about to run out and buy a photometric filter set on account of this thread, but fortunately the T-11 is fully equipped. Only cost a few bucks for the 0.001 second images. Most of that is spent on time downloading the images from the camera. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good info astro. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22616456 it may not be brighter then normal, but its brightness does vary, which may explain why people think its brighter? because it is...well it was. [link to apod.nasa.gov] Its brightness does vary, as described by the danjon formula, and this can confuse novice observers, but there's nothing abnormally bright about this apparition of the planet as a whole compared to previous appearances. |