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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23356301 United States 09/17/2012 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** BINGO and thankyou and the optical equipment would need to be the same as 10 years ago at that. or more. Many of our eyes are registering a brighter sun that is white not yellowish too. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** BINGO and thankyou and the optical equipment would need to be the same as 10 years ago at that. or more. Many of our eyes are registering a brighter sun that is white not yellowish too. No, the magnitude scale is the same regardless, I measured the same wavelengths of light that Danjon did, you don't seem to understand the thread. If the sun were brighter, Venus would be too. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21083803 United States 09/17/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** BINGO and thankyou and the optical equipment would need to be the same as 10 years ago at that. or more. Many of our eyes are registering a brighter sun that is white not yellowish too. No, the magnitude scale is the same regardless, I measured the same wavelengths of light that Danjon did, you don't seem to understand the thread. If the sun were brighter, Venus would be too. Ok, now am done defending you Astro. Now you are just being an asshole. I thought you wanted to help arrive at the real answers to what is tweaking our whole SS? You seem hell bent(shill) to tell us that all is well in the SS and it is most certainly not. I will no longer defend you, as you are not what we thought. Someone who cares about your fellow human beings and are determined to help save lives. By you so easily dismissing our concerns, it is apparent that you are just another shill being paid to tell smart people who notice things we are all crazy, nothing to see. Shame on you, USE your knowledge of space for good dude, not evil. You KNOW Venus is out of control, people all over the world are noticing it. There have been reports of planes crashing and taking evasive action to avoid it - thinking it was a plane? The local press in Arizona has NEVER had so many calls which it did over the past two years over the same thing : that massively bright object in the sky. Everyone is talking about how it has never been this bright, young and old. This is not the NIBIRU thing, there is REAL smoke here and you are not helping by telling people nothing to see. Now stop confusing people and actually help us determine what is coming, etherwise - get the fuck out of here. Thank you. By the way astro, how do you explain the 26 fucking volcanoes that are currently erupting? Sure, that is normal, nothing to see - sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23543378 United States 09/17/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** BINGO and thankyou and the optical equipment would need to be the same as 10 years ago at that. or more. Many of our eyes are registering a brighter sun that is white not yellowish too. No, the magnitude scale is the same regardless, I measured the same wavelengths of light that Danjon did, you don't seem to understand the thread. If the sun were brighter, Venus would be too. Ok, now am done defending you Astro. Now you are just being an asshole. I thought you wanted to help arrive at the real answers to what is tweaking our whole SS? You seem hell bent(shill) to tell us that all is well in the SS and it is most certainly not. I will no longer defend you, as you are not what we thought. Someone who cares about your fellow human beings and are determined to help save lives. By you so easily dismissing our concerns, it is apparent that you are just another shill being paid to tell smart people who notice things we are all crazy, nothing to see. Shame on you, USE your knowledge of space for good dude, not evil. You KNOW Venus is out of control, people all over the world are noticing it. There have been reports of planes crashing and taking evasive action to avoid it - thinking it was a plane? The local press in Arizona has NEVER had so many calls which it did over the past two years over the same thing : that massively bright object in the sky. Everyone is talking about how it has never been this bright, young and old. This is not the NIBIRU thing, there is REAL smoke here and you are not helping by telling people nothing to see. Now stop confusing people and actually help us determine what is coming, etherwise - get the fuck out of here. Thank you. By the way astro, how do you explain the 26 fucking volcanoes that are currently erupting? Sure, that is normal, nothing to see - sure. |
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Cassandra's Echo User ID: 17494466 United States 09/17/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You actually conducted a poll on this topic? Quoting: Cassandra's Echo Hilarious. The moon looks bigger, too. Quick, take a poll and start debunking! Are you still around? I'd have thought you'd be in your cave in Arkansas with your buddy Terrel the Bricklaying Astrophysicist. Don't you have an HMO to hide under the bed from? Let the drooling commence... R. Um, yeah, I'm still here. And who the hell are you? And who the hell is Terral?? Your spurned lover? Leave me out of your amorous spats, please. |
Cassandra's Echo User ID: 17494466 United States 09/17/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it just me or are the insults becoming increasingly banal these days? It feels like my haters are just phoning it in today. People are waking up, Astro. The tried-and-true science b.s. is no longer working on them. Because they choose to believe their lying eyes and not an anonymous astrophysicist on a conspiracy forum. Just a hunch ;-) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4387188 United Kingdom 09/17/2012 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it just me or are the insults becoming increasingly banal these days? It feels like my haters are just phoning it in today. People are waking up, Astro. The tried-and-true science b.s. is no longer working on them. Because they choose to believe their lying eyes and not an anonymous astrophysicist on a conspiracy forum. Just a hunch ;-) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23962301 United States 09/17/2012 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely Brighter lately in the MidWest. There's no missing it in the early morning sky. Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286 Actually it's currently on a dimming trend, each day it is slightly dimmer than the last. Its brightness is in agreement with Danjon's formula. Well the next thing you will tell us is the sun isn't hotter or brighter. The data doesn't lie. If the sun were brighter, then Venus would be brighter too. Look bro this time you let the cat out of the bag you really are a goverment shill. Quoting: acBecause you say so? The truth doesn't work like that, the truth is I'm not. Umm Venus is brighter, it's the only thing still visible in the morning sky after the sun rises! |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** BINGO and thankyou and the optical equipment would need to be the same as 10 years ago at that. or more. Many of our eyes are registering a brighter sun that is white not yellowish too. No, the magnitude scale is the same regardless, I measured the same wavelengths of light that Danjon did, you don't seem to understand the thread. If the sun were brighter, Venus would be too. Ok, now am done defending you Astro. Now you are just being an asshole. Yeah, providing fresh photometry of Venus for free even though it cost me money, driving out of my way to visit my alma mater so that I could photocopy an old book in the library in order to provide verification independent of NASA, clearly I'm being an asshole. Face it, you're pissed because the results disagree with your personal beliefs. I thought you wanted to help arrive at the real answers to what is tweaking our whole SS? Quoting: acYou seem hell bent(shill) to tell us that all is well in the SS and it is most certainly not. I will no longer defend you, as you are not what we thought. Someone who cares about your fellow human beings and are determined to help save lives. By you so easily dismissing our concerns, it is apparent that you are just another shill being paid to tell smart people who notice things we are all crazy, nothing to see. Shame on you, USE your knowledge of space for good dude, not evil. You KNOW Venus is out of control, people all over the world are noticing it. No, I do not know that Venus is out of control. In fact, I KNOW that it is not out of control at all. I know it's exactly as bright as it is predicted to be by mainstream astronomy, and that is what I have proven here. You can handwave to all the anecdotes you like, quantitative photometry is a far higher standard of evidence. By doing this analysis I have used my knowledge for good, and I wasn't paid to do so, in fact it cost me money out of pocket (literally). Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed doing it, but I am the opposite of a shill. I just follow the evidence wherever it leads. Volcanoes have fuck all to do with it. |
Kissplash User ID: 18998054 United States 09/17/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** BINGO and thankyou and the optical equipment would need to be the same as 10 years ago at that. or more. Many of our eyes are registering a brighter sun that is white not yellowish too. ^This^ And nothing for nothing but when I have pictures that are from the nineties showing me an yellow/orange ball of light called the sun I wonder...what has happened to it to turn into into a super-bright, white pointed thing? I miss that sun. That golden round globe of heat gave me great tans and strawberry hair. Now it burns me to a crisp in a few hours or is completely covered in chem-trail clouds. Something is happening...and the gubberment needs to address it instead of being so heck-bent on controlling our lives. I will not be a slave to their desires. LEARN HOW TO BE KIND OR BE LEFT BEHIND. OXOXO |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Actually it's currently on a dimming trend, each day it is slightly dimmer than the last. Its brightness is in agreement with Danjon's formula. Well the next thing you will tell us is the sun isn't hotter or brighter. The data doesn't lie. If the sun were brighter, then Venus would be brighter too. Look bro this time you let the cat out of the bag you really are a goverment shill. Quoting: acBecause you say so? The truth doesn't work like that, the truth is I'm not. Umm Venus is brighter, it's the only thing still visible in the morning sky after the sun rises! That's nothing new. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it just me or are the insults becoming increasingly banal these days? It feels like my haters are just phoning it in today. People are waking up, Astro. The tried-and-true science b.s. is no longer working on them. Because they choose to believe their lying eyes and not an anonymous astrophysicist on a conspiracy forum. Just a hunch ;-) If it's bs, show where my analysis is wrong. Put up or shut up. My photometry is far more accurate than naked eye observations. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4205976 United States 09/17/2012 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23166715 Well the next thing you will tell us is the sun isn't hotter or brighter. The data doesn't lie. If the sun were brighter, then Venus would be brighter too. Look bro this time you let the cat out of the bag you really are a goverment shill. Quoting: acBecause you say so? The truth doesn't work like that, the truth is I'm not. Umm Venus is brighter, it's the only thing still visible in the morning sky after the sun rises! That's nothing new. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Hydra User ID: 23933313 Germany 09/17/2012 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, now am done defending you Astro. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21083803 Now you are just being an asshole. I thought you wanted to help arrive at the real answers to what is tweaking our whole SS? You seem hell bent(shill) to tell us that all is well in the SS and it is most certainly not. I will no longer defend you, as you are not what we thought. Someone who cares about your fellow human beings and are determined to help save lives. By you so easily dismissing our concerns, it is apparent that you are just another shill being paid to tell smart people who notice things we are all crazy, nothing to see. Shame on you, USE your knowledge of space for good dude, not evil. You KNOW Venus is out of control, people all over the world are noticing it. There have been reports of planes crashing and taking evasive action to avoid it - thinking it was a plane? The local press in Arizona has NEVER had so many calls which it did over the past two years over the same thing : that massively bright object in the sky. Everyone is talking about how it has never been this bright, young and old. This is not the NIBIRU thing, there is REAL smoke here and you are not helping by telling people nothing to see. Now stop confusing people and actually help us determine what is coming, etherwise - get the fuck out of here. Thank you. By the way astro, how do you explain the 26 fucking volcanoes that are currently erupting? Sure, that is normal, nothing to see - sure. :godhavemercy: . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13187850 United States 09/17/2012 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** The only thing that changed was the level of expectation that something is wrong wrong Venus' brightness. Subject assessment is subject to preconceived expectations. People expect things to look wrong with the sky, so that's what they perceive. That's why objective quantification is more valuable. truth is in the eye of the Beholder... |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 09/17/2012 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** BINGO and thankyou and the optical equipment would need to be the same as 10 years ago at that. or more. Many of our eyes are registering a brighter sun that is white not yellowish too. ^This^ Again: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] The magnitude scale is the same as it was back then, you don't need the optical equipment to be the same. I calibrated the image relative to stellar magnitude using Sirius, that's why it doesn't matter. That's the whole point of this formula: Magnitude (of unknown) = -2.5*log10(intensity of unknown/intensity of known) + magnitude (of known) |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 09/17/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your missing something important. The human mind is the interpreter of the information given by the human eye. Since our consciousness is changing and sometimes without our specific knowledge, the mind is able to pick up that something is either clearer or brighter and it can't quiet pinpoint the anomaly but the mind knows something has changed. An optical device that you used is accurate and unchanged but the perception by the human mind has. Either way, this is why science has troubles with explanations. It's so hard to take the metaphysics out of the equation! Quoting: ****SUPERFLY**** The only thing that changed was the level of expectation that something is wrong wrong Venus' brightness. Subject assessment is subject to preconceived expectations. People expect things to look wrong with the sky, so that's what they perceive. That's why objective quantification is more valuable. truth is in the eye of the Beholder... No, the truth of the matter is that Venus is not abnormally bright. Reality doesn't care what your eye thinks. |
Reality420 User ID: 23400173 United States 09/17/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Um, yeah, I'm still here. And who the hell are you? Quoting: Cassandra's Echo And who the hell is Terral?? Your spurned lover? Leave me out of your amorous spats, please. Ahhh, the lies start immediately. Colour me surprised. Terrel is the uberkOOk you have in your Friends List. One of only 2 in your Friends List. You added him yourself. It doesn't happen automatically. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] So, yeah, I believe you don't know who Terrel is and you aren't lying like any other PX/HMO/PoleShifting retard. Drool on lying kOOkTroll. Drool on. R. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 09/17/2012 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol spending money to make a post on GLP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23543378 Sounds awfully desperate to me, why don't you just give up since nobody listens to you anyways (right or wrong). You should be thanking me rather than trying to shut me up. I pay to have an avatar and embed pictures, why not pay a little to acquire real data and do some real research? If anything, I find the latter more enjoyable. For someone with a Doctorate (lol) you have an awful lot of time on your hands to be posting on a conspiracy website of "Crazies." Quoting: ACI don't have as much time as you think, which is one more reason why being able to control the telescope remotely was advantageous. Having a doctorate means I appreciate and enjoy doing real research with rigorous methods. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 09/17/2012 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Um, yeah, I'm still here. And who the hell are you? Quoting: Cassandra's Echo And who the hell is Terral?? Your spurned lover? Leave me out of your amorous spats, please. Ahhh, the lies start immediately. Colour me surprised. Terrel is the uberkOOk you have in your Friends List. One of only 2 in your Friends List. You added him yourself. It doesn't happen automatically. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] So, yeah, I believe you don't know who Terrel is and you aren't lying like any other PX/HMO/PoleShifting retard. Drool on lying kOOkTroll. Drool on. R. LMFAO! She even corrected your spelling of his screen name! |
Reality420 User ID: 23400173 United States 09/17/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Um, yeah, I'm still here. And who the hell are you? Quoting: Cassandra's Echo And who the hell is Terral?? Your spurned lover? Leave me out of your amorous spats, please. Ahhh, the lies start immediately. Colour me surprised. Terrel is the uberkOOk you have in your Friends List. One of only 2 in your Friends List. You added him yourself. It doesn't happen automatically. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] So, yeah, I believe you don't know who Terrel is and you aren't lying like any other PX/HMO/PoleShifting retard. Drool on lying kOOkTroll. Drool on. R. LMFAO! She even corrected your spelling of his screen name! Yeah, I noticed that. The PXers, PoleShifters, HMOers, End-Times Bibletards are almost uniformly the most egregious liars I've ever encountered. It's to be expected, I guess. To believe that tripe you have to be mentally deficient and with that lowered intellect it must be horrible to realize you're a retard... so you lie to yourself and everybody else. We'll see what the lying sack-of-shit has to say in her defense. I'm sure it will be nearly illucid. What's really funny is that she actually thinks she's intellegent and scoring points against sane and rational adults. It's like watching a child. R. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23543378 United States 09/17/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol spending money to make a post on GLP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23543378 Sounds awfully desperate to me, why don't you just give up since nobody listens to you anyways (right or wrong). You should be thanking me rather than trying to shut me up. I pay to have an avatar and embed pictures, why not pay a little to acquire real data and do some real research? If anything, I find the latter more enjoyable. For someone with a Doctorate (lol) you have an awful lot of time on your hands to be posting on a conspiracy website of "Crazies." Quoting: ACI don't have as much time as you think, which is one more reason why being able to control the telescope remotely was advantageous. Having a doctorate means I appreciate and enjoy doing real research with rigorous methods. Lol thanks for posting anonymously on a conspiracy site, it's a great service you provide all of us here. /sarcasm You have plenty of time to debunk stupid Nibiru videos that any laymen can see through, but you do it at such an obsessive compulsive level, that it comes off as hilarious imo. I don't believe in Nibiru, Nemesis, etc, but you take it so far it's just weird. Any real doctorate graduate would not waste their time posting on a conspiracy site, as often as you do. It's a title people work extremely hard for, so I'm calling BS on your credentials. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23962301 United States 09/17/2012 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol spending money to make a post on GLP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23543378 Sounds awfully desperate to me, why don't you just give up since nobody listens to you anyways (right or wrong). You should be thanking me rather than trying to shut me up. I pay to have an avatar and embed pictures, why not pay a little to acquire real data and do some real research? If anything, I find the latter more enjoyable. For someone with a Doctorate (lol) you have an awful lot of time on your hands to be posting on a conspiracy website of "Crazies." Quoting: ACI don't have as much time as you think, which is one more reason why being able to control the telescope remotely was advantageous. Having a doctorate means I appreciate and enjoy doing real research with rigorous methods. Lol thanks for posting anonymously on a conspiracy site, it's a great service you provide all of us here. /sarcasm You have plenty of time to debunk stupid Nibiru videos that any laymen can see through, but you do it at such an obsessive compulsive level, that it comes off as hilarious imo. I don't believe in Nibiru, Nemesis, etc, but you take it so far it's just weird. Any real doctorate graduate would not waste their time posting on a conspiracy site, as often as you do. It's a title people work extremely hard for, so I'm calling BS on your credentials. +100 |