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46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill

 
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Yes,,,,,,I was referring to the Millenium.....after Daniel's 70th week.
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I have been responding on a few posts above to a poster by the name of Brogan.....who asked me a few questions on P. 10
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I know, I was butting in. I couldn't tell by your post that you were referring to the millenium.......hf
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Oh Ok.....sorry about the mixup.
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I find it interesting that the Illinois lottery number was 666 when the presidential vote was finished......and also how the name is translated in Hebrew, Aramaic, etc.


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666 the number of the soul/beast+111/the 3 pillars in freemasonry = 777 the number of god..the "bible" code is in my 777 thread...

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Yes,,,,,,I was referring to the Millenium.....after Daniel's 70th week.
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I have been responding on a few posts above to a poster by the name of Brogan.....who asked me a few questions on P. 10
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I know, I was butting in. I couldn't tell by your post that you were referring to the millenium.......hf
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they also added a zero on that 1000 years ,we get 100 years in an incarnation, if we get that..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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I love Peter Goodgame......he has so much insight. The only problem is that he, like most others, work off of corrupted texts.

AheYah never wanted a house built with hands...He has always wanted His house to be built within US. So any prophecies structured around the building of any third/fourth temple, must be considered in that spectrum.
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To my knowledge......we have never before had a loaf of bread costing a day's wages.....on a worldwide basis.


However......with being on the verge of a worldwide collapse in the fiat currency system......and crop failures everywhere.......heads up for the 3rd Seal of Revelation.


This is combination with Israel being brought back to it's original homeland......

(for hundreds of years.....no one thought that this prophecy was possible.)


Well.....do the math.
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To my knowledge......we have never before had a loaf of bread costing a day's wages.....on a worldwide basis.


However......with being on the verge of a worldwide collapse in the fiat currency system......and crop failures everywhere.......heads up for the 3rd Seal of Revelation.


This is combination with Israel being brought back to it's original homeland......

(for hundreds of years.....no one thought that this prophecy was possible.)


Well.....do the math.
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excellent point. we are on our way to that tho. and with the quickness.
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Thanks OP for the post above re. the 70 weeks.


I might add a few things as well.


Israel had been sent into captivitiy for repeated past trangressions.....including worshipping foreign gods......and even sacrificing their children to them.


After a period of time in captivity, Daniel began to intercede on behalf of the people......confessing the sin of Israel....asking forgiveness......how long God would hide His face from Israel......and how long the punishment would last.

Daniel Chp 9.


The answer was the 70 weeks prophecy


"Seventy weeks are determined for your people (Israel)......

(Intended specifically for Israel......although naturally others in the world would be affected)


....."to finish the transgression

....."to make reconcilliation for iniquity."



And so Daniel received the answer.....how long the punishment would last.....to make reconcilliation for iniquity.


69 weeks of biblical years brings you to the time when Israel rejected their Messiah.....and killed Him.

Had they instead received Him......the 70 weeks of years would have been completed around 39 AD.


Instead.....they rejected Him.....and thus the last week was postponed.


The relationship between God and Israel was not restored. God continued to hide His face from Israel (and does so even today).


Thus Israel was shortly thereafter butchered by the Romans......and scattered about the world....without a homeland.


It is not until after the final week....and Messiah returns as King......that the relationship will be restored......and God will put His Spirit inside the people of Israel. (Ezek Chps 34---39).
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in my opinion, the best approach to reading the prophecies in OT in relation to revelation is both a historical and futurist one.

the preterist approach and the preterist/historical approach has a million holes.
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The hole is in the Futurist theology already posted twice and ignored both times. Prove there is a 2000 year "gap" in the 70 weeks of Daniel 9:24-27.

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FOR ONE THING, DANIEL CHAPTER 12 IS CLEARLY TALKING ABOUT THE END TIMES, INCLUDING BOTH THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD AND A TIME OF TROUBLE THAT THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN......THAT IT WILL LAST 3.5 YEARS.....THAT THE DAILY SACRIFICE WILL BE STOPPED.....THAT THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION WILL BE SET UP.

IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT THE RESURRECTION HAS ALREADY OCCURRED......THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.....THEN GO RIGHT AHEAD.....GIVE IT A WHIRL.


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There is no gap. The gap is a new theology called Futurism. There is no 7 year endtime tribulation. The 70 weeks were fulfilled 2000 years ago; 490 years ended.
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The 3.5 year period first found in Dn 7 then 12 and the 42 months of Rev 11 & 13 are all one and the same and do not come from Dn 9's 70 weeks that were 490 years ending at the time of Jesus.

The "times time and a half" of Dn 7 & 12 we also find in Rev 11 & 13 as 42 months and 1260 days. The day-year principle always applies to prophetic time as we find other symbolism of the "beast" and "horns".

Dn 7 the beast Roman empire fell in 476 AD into ten nations as the "little horn" Vatican City arose to power that ruled for 1260 years during those dark ages.

This is found throughout Bible commentaries before the year 1900 and is nothing new.
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Bear in mind also that there is nothing inherently good about the jewish people......but God will do this to defend His Holy Name.....and promise made to Abraham......for his act of faith and obedience (Gen 22)


The faith and actions of single individuals are very, very important to God.


Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

And the Lord was SORRY that He had made man on the earth, and He was GRIEVED in His heart,

So the Lord said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man, and beast, and creeping thing and birds of the air, for I AM SORRY THAT I HAVE MADE THEM."


But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
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Daniel’s Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks (Daniel 9:24-27)




This prophecy is the most important prophecy in the Bible because it gives specific timetables for the two comings of the Messiah. The First Coming occurred exactly 483 years after "the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem," and the Second Coming will occur exactly seven years after the "ruler who will come" confirms "a covenant with many." From the context of this prophecy, as well as other prophecies from Daniel, Paul, Jesus and Revelation, we know that this covenant, or treaty, will be one that concerns Israel and the rebuilding of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. The Second Coming will occur exactly seven years after this treaty is made, and this seven year period is the timeline upon which the events of Revelation are played out.

Prior to this final seven year period Jesus will rescue His faithful believers in an event that has come to be called The Rapture. This is the event that cannot be predicted because "no one knows the day or the hour." This is an intriguing subject on it's own, particularly because New Age occultic trance-channelers are making the same predictions. However they say that the bad guys will be taken and the good guys will be left to enter the New Age, which is exactly opposite to the biblical view. To research this subject further please go here.

The Seventy Weeks of Daniel do several important things. First, they completely demolish the growing belief that Jesus of Nazareth never claimed to be the Messiah. Of course he claimed to be the Messiah! Riding into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey and encouraging the crowd to embrace Him as their King was entirely messianic. Second, the fact that Jesus entered Jerusalem on the very specific day that was predicted by Daniel is proof that Jesus not only claimed that He was the Messiah, but he in fact was and is the Messiah, the Saviour of the human race. Third, the fact that there is a final week, a final seven year period that is unfulfilled in Daniel's prophecy, helps to illuminate the context of the catastrophic judgements that will befall the earth as predicted in Revelation.

This final seven year period is divided precisely in half by an event known as the Abomination of Desolation. It is predicted by Daniel and also by Jesus in Matthew 24:15-21. Jesus refers to Daniel and says that when the Abomination is set up the world would experience the worst time of trouble that it has ever seen. The words of Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and the predictions in Revelation 13 combine with the words of Jesus and Daniel to make it clear that the Abomination of Desolation will be an image, or an idol of the Antichrist, which will be set up in the Holy Place of a rebuilt Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. The setting up of the Abomination divides the final seven year period into two halves of exactly three and a half years each. These time periods are referred to throughout Daniel and Revelation as either "a time, times and half a time," "42 months," or "1260 days." From these references we know that the prophetic year of the bible is exactly 360 days long, and that Jesus Christ will return exactly 2,520 days (7 x 360) after the final seven year period begins.

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490 years were finished 2000 years ago. There is no gap pushing 7 years into the future.

The 42 months of Rev 11 & 13 come from Dn 7, not Dn 9.

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1260 days

Dn.7:25 = time, times and a half (1260)
Dn.12:7 = time, times and a half (1260)
Rv.11:2 = 42 months (1260)
Rv.11:3 = 1260 days
Rv.12:6 = 1260 days
Rv.12:14 = time, times and a half (1260)
Rv.13:5 = 42 months (1260)

All these are the same 1260 period of history.

The lunar calender year is 360 days.

360, time
720, times
180, half
1260 - Total

Daniel 9's 70 weeks or 490 days is widely understood to be actually 490 years.
day-year principle
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Prophetic time is always day = year.

The 1260 years has been identified when the Rome Empire fell (476) and 'holy' Rome took over from 538 to 1798 when Napoleon ended the Papal States.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The ten kingdoms after the fall of Rome

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Dn 7 the beast Roman empire fell in 476 AD into ten nations as the "little horn" Vatican City arose to power that ruled for 1260 years during those dark ages.

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Prove the above statement........using Scripture only.....no outside sources allowed.
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There is absolutely no evidence that God restored His covenant relationship with Israel in the year 39AD.......and that the 70 weeks were complete.....with full resititution and reconcilliation being completed.


This is why Christ weeped over them.....because He saw what was coming......total destruction by the Romans shortly thereafter.


The relationship will not be restored until Christ returns as King......and David as prince in Jerusalem.....at the end of the 70th week.....and the beginning of the Millenial Kingdom.


At that time.......full pardon.....God will put His Spirit inside the remnant of Israel. (Ezek Chps 34---39)
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Dn 7 the beast Roman empire fell in 476 AD into ten nations as the "little horn" Vatican City arose to power that ruled for 1260 years during those dark ages.

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Prove the above statement........using Scripture only.....no outside sources allowed.
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The Bible is confirmed with historic fulfillment. I'll use every source I feel like using. And stop stretching with*** all the pages.

The Roman Empire is first found in Dn 2, then given in another vision in chapters 7 & 8.

Thus the fourth beast of Dn 7 has been the Roman Empire. The passage tells how:

7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
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We see here the beast had ten horns. Horns are symbolic of kings, and kings rule over nations.
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7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

The key to identify where in history all this takes place is given in two ways, the Roman Empire and the 1260 years. Then after the fall of Rome's empire into these ten nations the Vatican did form and cause three nations to go extinct by 538 AD.
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The man of evil will try to destroy all of Israel and her offspring (the Gentile Christians).....during the final 3.5 years.


The time of punishment (the full 70 weeks)......is not over until after this time of severe persecution.


See Rev. Chp 12


God will preserve a remnant of Israel supernaturally in the wilderness......and also those Christians walking closely in faith with Him.

He will preserve a remnant of Israel to defend His Holy Name.....and promise made to Abraham for his act of faith and obedience (Gen 22).



Christians take note:

Psalm 27:5

Psalm 31: 20

Psalm 91
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There is absolutely no evidence that God restored His covenant relationship with Israel in the year 39AD.......and that the 70 weeks were complete.....with full resititution and reconcilliation being completed.
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Yes there is!

The Gospel went to all the world as physical Israel was broken off for disobedience.


Exodus 19:5, God said to Israel, "If you will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then you shall be a peculiar treasure to me above all people: for all the earth is mine." Thus the OT physical Israel of twelve tribes being "a peculiar treasure … above all people" was conditional upon their obedience to God's voice.

2 Kings 21:8 Neither will I make the feet of Israel move any more out of the land which I gave their fathers; only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them, and according to all the law that my servant Moses commanded them.

Mat.21:43 Therefore say I to you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Mat.23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stone them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered my children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and you would not! Behold, your house is left to you desolate.

John 4:22,23 You worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the jewish people. But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him.

John 15:5 I am the vine, you are the branches: He that stays in me, and I in him, the same brings forth much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.

Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you jewish people: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

Acts 18:5,6 Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the jewish people that Jesus was Christ. And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean; from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.

Acts 22:19-21 And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.

Ro.2:17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God.....25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Ro.9:6,7 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Two Israels

1 Cor 10:18 Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?

Gal.3:7 Know you therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Gal.3:16,28,29 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.....There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ's, then are you Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Gal.6:15,16 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and on the Israel of God.

Phil.3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:
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I am sorry....but I cannot agree with you about Daniel: 7: 23-25


So lets just have different opinions about the subject.


In my opinion, this is the kingdom that is ruling the world during the end times when the final man of evil comes on the scene. This is included in the context.

In my opinion, the 4th kingdom is different from all previous kingdoms becuase the rulers are not visible to the public.

Since the time of the French Revolution, the banking families have been progressively gobbling up the whole earth.


They are of ONE MIND....united in purpose.

When the man of evil comes on the scene....returning from the dead....they will proclaim "who can make war with him."

They will give their power and authority to him in exchange for rulership over the world with him as visible kings.


Daniel 7: 23-25

Rev 17: 8-17
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The Gospel went to all the world as physical Israel was broken off for disobedience.

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True..........salvation did come to the Gentiles.....no doubt about it.


However......God made a promise to Abraham......and will preserve a remant of Israel......and will put His Spirit inside those of Israel who survive the final seven years.


Ezek Chps 34---39


Christ will be King over the earth.......and David will be prince over his people Israel in Jerusalem.
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The abomination of desolation is a statue made in the likeness of the man of evil.....that is able to talk.


Rev. 13: 11-18


It is:


Set up.........Daniel 12: 11

Placed there.....Daniel 11: 31

Seen standing.....Mt 24: 15



Christ's instructions: leave everything behind.....and flee to the mountains/wilderness. (Mt 24)


We all need to work on building our faith in advance.....to take the first step.


God will take care of you in the wilderness.......like He did with Israel when they fled Egypt. Let Him fight the battle for you.


David did much against Goliath.....with a small rock.
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The abomination of desolation is a statue made in the likeness of the man of evil.....that is able to talk.
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The abomination of desolation is a statue made in the likeness of the man of evil.....that is able to talk.


Rev. 13: 11-18


It is:


Set up.........Daniel 12: 11

Placed there.....Daniel 11: 31

Seen standing.....Mt 24: 15



Christ's instructions: leave everything behind.....and flee to the mountains/wilderness. (Mt 24)


We all need to work on building our faith in advance.....to take the first step.


God will take care of you in the wilderness.......like He did with Israel when they fled Egypt. Let Him fight the battle for you.


David did much against Goliath.....with a small rock.
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the statue is not a statue. the translation does not mean statue. it means image or likeness.

in futurists terms, the entire passage suggests an holographic interactive image that people will be forced to worship.
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in futurists terms, the entire passage suggests an holographic interactive image that people will be forced to worship.
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I'm downloading youtube videos on mine.
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Some who spoke of this project in the 90's say that a "new religion" is being built and this small new eccentric red dwarf-type star will be part of the basis and justification. The big religions are supposed to be phased out and fused with the new Luciferian religion.
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They're just gonna turn Joops into a big holographic plasma TV.
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The abomination of desolation is a statue made in the likeness of the man of evil.....that is able to talk.


Rev. 13: 11-18


It is:


Set up.........Daniel 12: 11

Placed there.....Daniel 11: 31

Seen standing.....Mt 24: 15



Christ's instructions: leave everything behind.....and flee to the mountains/wilderness. (Mt 24)


We all need to work on building our faith in advance.....to take the first step.


God will take care of you in the wilderness.......like He did with Israel when they fled Egypt. Let Him fight the battle for you.


David did much against Goliath.....with a small rock.
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the statue is not a statue. the translation does not mean statue. it means image or likeness.

in futurists terms, the entire passage suggests an holographic interactive image that people will be forced to worship.
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The greek word ekona can be translated either as a statue or an image.

Either way.....it will be nasty.


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I mean....eikon.

In any case......it will be allowed supernatural powers for a period of time....and many will worship it.
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Axx


I am sorry....but I cannot agree with you about Daniel: 7: 23-25


So lets just have different opinions about the subject.


In my opinion, this is the kingdom that is ruling the world during the end times when the final man of evil comes on the scene. This is included in the context.

In my opinion, the 4th kingdom is different from all previous kingdoms becuase the rulers are not visible to the public.

Since the time of the French Revolution, the banking families have been progressively gobbling up the whole earth.


They are of ONE MIND....united in purpose.

When the man of evil comes on the scene....returning from the dead....they will proclaim "who can make war with him."

They will give their power and authority to him in exchange for rulership over the world with him as visible kings.


Daniel 7: 23-25

Rev 17: 8-17
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While I can appreciate your opinion the Bible does not.

The 4th empire of Dn 7 has been the Roman Empire since this followed Greece. We are given the first three: Babylon, Medes & Persians, Greek. Rome's empire followed thus is the fourth and final empire found in Dn 2. There are only four empires. This has been understood for 2000 years.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

As Dn 2, 7 & 8 all go together using the Hebrew expand and build upon, to give more detain; so too Rev 11, 13 & 17 all go together.

In Rev 17 is the final head of Rome's empire, covered earlier:

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I am sorry....but I cannot agree with you about Daniel: 7: 23-25


So lets just have different opinions about the subject.


In my opinion, this is the kingdom that is ruling the world during the end times when the final man of evil comes on the scene. This is included in the context.

In my opinion, the 4th kingdom is different from all previous kingdoms becuase the rulers are not visible to the public.

Since the time of the French Revolution, the banking families have been progressively gobbling up the whole earth.


They are of ONE MIND....united in purpose.

When the man of evil comes on the scene....returning from the dead....they will proclaim "who can make war with him."

They will give their power and authority to him in exchange for rulership over the world with him as visible kings.


Daniel 7: 23-25

Rev 17: 8-17
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While I can appreciate your opinion the Bible does not.

The 4th empire of Dn 7 has been the Roman Empire since this followed Greece. We are given the first three: Babylon, Medes & Persians, Greek. Rome's empire followed thus is the fourth and final empire found in Dn 2. There are only four empires. This has been understood for 2000 years.

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As Dn 2, 7 & 8 all go together using the Hebrew expand and build upon, to give more detain; so too Rev 11, 13 & 17 all go together.

In Rev 17 is the final head of Rome's empire, covered earlier:

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What's that? Belief in an image?


Dan 2:31 Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.
Dan 2:32 This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
Dan 2:33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.
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Seems I can't power up my molten image these days without hearing about some giant statue devouring the Earth.

I just wish it didn't take thousands of years. Maybe I could hear about something else then.
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The abomination of desolation is a statue made in the likeness of the man of evil.....that is able to talk.


Rev. 13: 11-18


It is:


Set up.........Daniel 12: 11

Placed there.....Daniel 11: 31

Seen standing.....Mt 24: 15



Christ's instructions: leave everything behind.....and flee to the mountains/wilderness. (Mt 24)


We all need to work on building our faith in advance.....to take the first step.


God will take care of you in the wilderness.......like He did with Israel when they fled Egypt. Let Him fight the battle for you.


David did much against Goliath.....with a small rock.
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the statue is not a statue. the translation does not mean statue. it means image or likeness.

in futurists terms, the entire passage suggests an holographic interactive image that people will be forced to worship.
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Yes as you see Futurists look at prophetic symbolism in the literal sense.

Read it again since the "beast" is a kingdom (Dn7:23) 7:23 "Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom on earth," understanding this was the 1260 holy roman empire, then what has been the image of the beast?

The 1260 year HRE was the 7th head!!!!!.

It was replaced by Rome's NWO -- the beast from the earth, then found in Rev 17 as the 8th head "which comes from the seventh".

Thus the NWO is the image of the HRE.
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As Dn 2, 7 & 8 all go together using the Hebrew expand and build upon, to give more detail; so too Rev 11, 13 & 17 all go together.

In Rev 17 is the final head of Rome's empire, covered earlier:

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Rev 17 has the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns. We are told the "horns" are kings (Rv.17:12, Dn.7:24). Kings rule over nations.

•beast - KINGDOM
•horn - NATION

Notice the kings in chapter 17 have no crowns as previous horns in chapter 13 did. This is because chapter 17 ten nations are republics of the NWO, not monarchies of the HRE.

Rome's NWO began following the French Revolution and those 42 months, 1798. In 1798 Rome's NWO had two nations: France & USA (Rev 13:11). By chapter 17 the NWO has ten republics. This was following the Revolutions of 1848 across Europe.

Then Babylon "fell" in 1870, no longer needed, having been replaced by the NWO. (also this declaration is on the US dollar in Latin and Roman numerals, 1776 - the first NWO republic.)
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People dont listen to this lady she is mislead