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46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill

 
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Look in the mirror you will see the beast. His number is 666. Why would the Greeks insert such a number?

The number 9 symbolically in the Mystical bible refers to the MIND of man. Man either functions from his lower mind or higher mind. Man in his lower mind is represented as an animal. Mankind functioning from the higher mind is attuned with the divine mind.

6+6+6=18 add the digits of 1+8=9... 9 is the mind of man mystically in the bible. Your are the beast when your functioning in the lower mind acting carnally.

Remember the new Jerusalem. It's dimensions are 144,000. That represents the higher mind. Those that are saved from being the beast. They have a renewed mind as illustrated by the apostle Paul.

144=1+4+4=9....or the higher mind in this case. The entire bible is about you. And how to gain access to the higher mind.

Of course no one will accept this as the apostle Paul states, because when you read the bible literally you miss the SPIRITUAL truth because one is stuck in the lower mind trying to figure out when the world will end and who the Antichrist is....

The bible is myth. That does not mean its not true. Not true literally :) the entire bible happens to you when you are ready to PASSOVER to the right side and dwell in the garden of eden. And where was the garden of Eden located??

And for those that still doubt this. Read John 21. Where Jesus instructed the disciples to cast there nets to the RIGHT side of the boat. How many fish did they catch? Why did the bible make a point to say 153 fish caught?
Do the math and read above.....

Peace.


Do the math on 153 and read above....

Peace.
 Quoting: Ophelimity 11447823


666==600+60+6!=18

in Greek it spells chi - xi - sigma, which coincidentally or not looks a whole lot like XES. I have wondered recently when this has to do with 'gender' (fda/doh & sex)[birth certificate]

some have suggested MDCCLXXVI is 666 as it is 1600+160+16

666 is the number of talants of gold brought in to Solomon in one year, which suggests to me something to do with taxes.

it also implicates people in the sins of the beast going all the way back through the ages-including the crucifixion of our Lord, and of the martyrs and innocents. This is another reason why the money changers seem suspect IMO.

This is why I have speculated that it has something to do with the Federal Reserve/IRS/Federal Income Tax/and the Social Security number. (is this the purpose of the two pillars on the social security card-the creation of 'persons'?)

it will be a mark of slavery & ownership, which it is as before we are even born each and every one of us is more than $40,000 in debt. If the dollar collapses, will this ever be repayable? Our social security number/federal income tax becomes like collateral on 'our' portion of the nations debt which renders us a mere commodity.

understanding the nature of this website I present this as speculative and is not intended to be inflammatory. I express my opinions out of concern.

share your thoughts please.

I have done much research on this for about 10 years now-since I was 17, and these are some of my conclusions.
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12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.

definitely you are talking about me here.

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why are we given new names by our Lord that only we know?
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12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.

definitely you are talking about me here.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger?
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12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.

definitely you are talking about me here.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21008556


Actually Jesse Ventura would be a better candidate if he can win the Presidency in 2016.

The People love Jesse because he is so courageous and tells the truth.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


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The Bible sounds like something out of a Hunter S Thompson Story. With the exception of the Cousin fucking.
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this is interesting. lots of useful symbols.

Thread: Heliofant’s “I, Pet Goat II”
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the statue is not a statue. the translation does not mean statue. it means image or likeness.

in futurists terms, the entire passage suggests an holographic interactive image that people will be forced to worship.


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Perhaps.....but in ancient Greece or Rome.......to make an image of one of their gods....or perhaps a king.......one would make a bust......or a statue.
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I'll tell you what. An apple with a bite taken out of it, sounds like the Devil's past work. And people worship the fuck of it!
Eat, drink, and be merry,
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you may die.
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the statue is not a statue. the translation does not mean statue. it means image or likeness.

in futurists terms, the entire passage suggests an holographic interactive image that people will be forced to worship.


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Perhaps.....but in ancient Greece or Rome.......to make an image of one of their gods....or perhaps a king.......one would make a bust......or a statue.
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If you pray and make sacrifices to Poseidon directly, you will get water when you need it. It goes the same with the rest of the gods. Don't forget that Zeus was a jealous god as well, and the christian god usually is modeled after his image. That is also why the bible refers to more than one god in the old testament.
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of course. as long as we stay on the topic of the thread.
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With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law."

Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says?

and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :(
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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The abomination of desolation is a statue made in the likeness of the man of evil.....that is able to talk.


Rev. 13: 11-18


It is:


Set up.........Daniel 12: 11

Placed there.....Daniel 11: 31

Seen standing.....Mt 24: 15



Christ's instructions: leave everything behind.....and flee to the mountains/wilderness. (Mt 24)


We all need to work on building our faith in advance.....to take the first step.


God will take care of you in the wilderness.......like He did with Israel when they fled Egypt. Let Him fight the battle for you.


David did much against Goliath.....with a small rock.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24082184


the statue is not a statue. the translation does not mean statue. it means image or likeness.

in futurists terms, the entire passage suggests an holographic interactive image that people will be forced to worship.
 Quoting: Salt
money with holograms in them?Don't they call the worship of money greed and doesn't greed exist?
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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I'll throw my hat into the ring for antichristfloat...for there is no god ,no goddess,no saviors ,no prophets... for we all have the same co-creator spirit..for the spirit cannot be separated but only shared..it is the creation that seeks to divide the spirit that existed before the creation with constructs of the creation...good luck poor lost souls with dividing the spirit for no spirit can divide itself form the spirit...lost souls would call me the antichrist but the spirit is not an antichrist but a co-creator and co-creators are not lost ,we know who we were and are and are to be..there's nothing new under the sun...the arks with the spirit who forgets its spirit and thinks its a soul runs aground in the creation instead of sailing smoothly through it pass the guide signs of religions..hf
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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once the antichrist was Nero ,then it was the papacy said martin luther, then it was Hitler,then it was Ronald Wilson Reagen because he had three 6 letter names and now Obama is the antichrist...your chasing after the wind souls, there is no antichrist because there is no Christ there is only spirit..if Christ existed he was merely an ark which contained the same spirit all arks contain or the arks would not have life in the creation...only the spirit of the creator can cause life to exist..no god ,no devil ,no goddess,no savior ,no prophet can cause life to exist,the spirit has always existed and always been shared in the arks/bodys...stop causing division poor lost souls,saith the spirit..we are all in the same book, so try to get on the same page as the spirit..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Jesus said....

ANTICHRIST = Murderer - Liar - Can never know truth


John 8
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
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King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

 Quoting: Salt


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aaahhhhhhhhhhh, therein lies our problem.

Jesus IS the torah, so if the man of sin is against Jesus, he is also by default against The Word.

And, fulfilled doesn't mean "end" it means He fulfilled it, he DID it, he did it completely and perfectly. And He taught US how to do it as well. So if we follow Him, we follow His loving instructions.

What ARE his loving instructions?
 Quoting: Shamar


His loving instructions are to recognize Jesus as the son of God and since... “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24)
 Quoting: abeliever


Is that it? Is that all He wants or expects from His people? Just recognize Jesus as the Son of God?

I think it is far, far more than that.

When Jesus came, He came teaching that the Kingdom of God was at hand.

If you are going to be a priest and a member of a holy nation, what are you going to do as a priest and member of His Kingdom?
 Quoting: Shamar


yes, Shamar, it is that simple. We are to believe, and to keep the commandments, but the most important commandment is to love.

when we do this, we are priests and saints.
the law has been fulfilled. it is finished.
let go of your legalism.
 Quoting: Salt



Yes!

John 10:25-30

New International Version (NIV)

25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[a]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
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bumppeace
Stickyfoot,i think i stepped in something
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Jesus said....

ANTICHRIST = Murderer - Liar - Can never know truth


John 8
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
 Quoting: abeliever
that was the co-creator spirit speaking from that ark you call jesus...did you forget poor lost soul that has given its spirits authority to the creation and lost its power over the creation..still drinking milk eh...and the spirit doesn't belong to no god or goddess,its free,always has been and is free and will always be free in any other incarnations into the creation..only a beast needs a master to keep it in line...those who remember they are spirit and keep their authority over the creation are the golden rules that come forth as the word..

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Very close. You just need more Bible. Obviously the UN is a big player.

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Jesus said....

ANTICHRIST = Murderer - Liar - Can never know truth


John 8
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
 Quoting: abeliever
that was the co-creator spirit speaking from that ark you call jesus...did you forget poor lost soul that has given its spirits authority to the creation and lost its power over the creation..still drinking milk eh...and the spirit doesn't belong to no god or goddess,its free,always has been and is free and will always be free in any other incarnations into the creation..only a beast needs a master to keep it in line...those who remember they are spirit and keep their authority over the creation are the golden rules that come forth as the word..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


You are a lost spirit making up your its lies to mitigate its sinful mind. Sorry. Change or it's the pit for you!

John 8:47
The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.
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of course. as long as we stay on the topic of the thread.
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With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law."

Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says?

and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :(
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i did read your post. but, when people start misquoting scripture and adding or removing words, that usually shuts down the whole post. which it did. the entire premise of your post is based on incorrect, misunderstood and misquoted scripture.
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of course. as long as we stay on the topic of the thread.
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With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law."

Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says?

and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :(
 Quoting: Shamar


i did read your post. but, when people start misquoting scripture and adding or removing words, that usually shuts down the whole post. which it did. the entire premise of your post is based on incorrect, misunderstood and misquoted scripture.
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Well, if you don't mind, please elaborate. Show me how I misquoted, added or removed words and misunderstand the text. I showed how scriptures paralleled, and built off of that. As they say, scripture interprets scripture. the NT is built off the OT. Throughout the NT the OT is referenced. christians tend to take one verse from the NT and build their whole theology around that, completely ignoring the OT. That's incorrect and leads to false beliefs.

So, humor me, and break down my post and show me where it is wrong. If you would like me to repost it and put the word "law" in, where "torah" is, that's not a problem, I would be happy to do so.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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of course. as long as we stay on the topic of the thread.
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With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law."

Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says?

and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :(
 Quoting: Shamar


i did read your post. but, when people start misquoting scripture and adding or removing words, that usually shuts down the whole post. which it did. the entire premise of your post is based on incorrect, misunderstood and misquoted scripture.
 Quoting: Salt


Well, if you don't mind, please elaborate. Show me how I misquoted, added or removed words and misunderstand the text. I showed how scriptures paralleled, and built off of that. As they say, scripture interprets scripture. the NT is built off the OT. Throughout the NT the OT is referenced. christians tend to take one verse from the NT and build their whole theology around that, completely ignoring the OT. That's incorrect and leads to false beliefs.

So, humor me, and break down my post and show me where it is wrong. If you would like me to repost it and put the word "law" in, where "torah" is, that's not a problem, I would be happy to do so.
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ugh... i already did show how you misquoted the scriptures.
you won't see it. you are stuck in the old law of the Torah and therefore are blind to this correction.
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With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law."

Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says?

and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :(
 Quoting: Shamar


i did read your post. but, when people start misquoting scripture and adding or removing words, that usually shuts down the whole post. which it did. the entire premise of your post is based on incorrect, misunderstood and misquoted scripture.
 Quoting: Salt


Well, if you don't mind, please elaborate. Show me how I misquoted, added or removed words and misunderstand the text. I showed how scriptures paralleled, and built off of that. As they say, scripture interprets scripture. the NT is built off the OT. Throughout the NT the OT is referenced. christians tend to take one verse from the NT and build their whole theology around that, completely ignoring the OT. That's incorrect and leads to false beliefs.

So, humor me, and break down my post and show me where it is wrong. If you would like me to repost it and put the word "law" in, where "torah" is, that's not a problem, I would be happy to do so.
 Quoting: Shamar


ugh... i already did show how you misquoted the scriptures.
you won't see it. you are stuck in the old law of the Torah and therefore are blind to this correction.
 Quoting: Salt


I must have missed it then, do you mind reposting?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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I think the image is the screen you are staring at.
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King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

International Standard Version (©2008)
Then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will destroy with the breath of his mouth, rendering him powerless by the manifestation of his coming.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And then that Evil One will be revealed, whom our Lord Yeshua will consume with a breath of his mouth, and will destroy him by the revelation of his coming.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Then the man of sin will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will destroy him by what he says. When the Lord Jesus comes, his appearance will put an end to this man.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And then shall that Wicked One be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the breath of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

American King James Version
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

American Standard Version
And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming;

Douay-Rheims Bible
And then that wicked one shall be revealed whom the Lord Jesus shall kill with the spirit of his mouth; and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming, him,
 Quoting: Salt


you miss the entire point. these are New Testament scriptures. Jesus has already lived and fulfilled the law. keep them in the context that they should be.

The Wicked One, Lawless One, Man of sin is the one against JESUS, not the Torah.
 Quoting: Salt


you miss the entire point. these are New Testament scriptures. Jesus has already lived and fulfilled the law. keep them in the context that they should be.

The Wicked One, Lawless One, Man of sin is the one against JESUS, not the Torah.
 Quoting: Salt


aaahhhhhhhhhhh, therein lies our problem.

Jesus IS the torah, so if the man of sin is against Jesus, he is also by default against The Word.

And, fulfilled doesn't mean "end" it means He fulfilled it, he DID it, he did it completely and perfectly. And He taught US how to do it as well. So if we follow Him, we follow His loving instructions.

What ARE his loving instructions?
 Quoting: Shamar


so you are j ew ish, then?

Jesus is the Torah and much more. that's my point.
 Quoting: Salt


there are 61 more books in the divine Holy Scripture. Jesus is the Word. The Torah is one fraction.
 Quoting: Salt


King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

 Quoting: Salt


...


aaahhhhhhhhhhh, therein lies our problem.

Jesus IS the torah, so if the man of sin is against Jesus, he is also by default against The Word.

And, fulfilled doesn't mean "end" it means He fulfilled it, he DID it, he did it completely and perfectly. And He taught US how to do it as well. So if we follow Him, we follow His loving instructions.

What ARE his loving instructions?
 Quoting: Shamar


His loving instructions are to recognize Jesus as the son of God and since... “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24)
 Quoting: abeliever


Is that it? Is that all He wants or expects from His people? Just recognize Jesus as the Son of God?

I think it is far, far more than that.

When Jesus came, He came teaching that the Kingdom of God was at hand.

If you are going to be a priest and a member of a holy nation, what are you going to do as a priest and member of His Kingdom?
 Quoting: Shamar


yes, Shamar, it is that simple. We are to believe, and to keep the commandments, but the most important commandment is to love.

when we do this, we are priests and saints.
the law has been fulfilled. it is finished.
let go of your legalism.
 Quoting: Salt


...


Is that it? Is that all He wants or expects from His people? Just recognize Jesus as the Son of God?

I think it is far, far more than that.

When Jesus came, He came teaching that the Kingdom of God was at hand.

If you are going to be a priest and a member of a holy nation, what are you going to do as a priest and member of His Kingdom?
 Quoting: Shamar


yes, Shamar, it is that simple. We are to believe, and to keep the commandments, but the most important commandment is to love.

when we do this, we are priests and saints.
the law has been fulfilled. it is finished.
let go of your legalism.
 Quoting: Salt


What legalism do you speak of?

It is not yet finished, all has not been fulfilled? Heaven and earth are still here, right?

And what commandments do you keep? And what does "Keep" even mean?

Just questions I throw out to try to get people to think. and to not run with what we have all been taught all our lives.
 Quoting: Shamar


it IS finished. everything happening now is just the tumbling down to the final act. but, do not think for one second that it is not finished. When Jesus died on the cross, he said "it is FINISHED/ACCOMPLISHED"

the only thing left to do is live as an example of Christ because the believers are the church, and to love your neighbor as yourself, all day, every day.

i keep (am obedient) to all of the commandments. and when i fail at something, i repent, ask forgiveness and confess.
 Quoting: Salt



 Quoting: Salt


people seem to really struggle with the simplicity and the beauty of living under grace. usually people who are still living under the legalism from the pharisees under the old law.

we are under grace. period end of sentence.

there is no atoning for our own sin. it is finished.
 Quoting: Salt


people seem to really struggle with the simplicity and the beauty of living under grace. usually people who are still living under the legalism from the pharisees under the old law.

we are under grace. period end of sentence.

there is no atoning for our own sin. it is finished.
 Quoting: Salt


scripture please? And if you don't mind....words other than Paul. Because if you ONLY rely on Paul, you are dismissing the red letter words.
 Quoting: Shamar


oh you are one of those...
Paul is a pivotal piece to the foundation of the early church.
there is no one scripture that encapsulates the essence. it is the entire book from cover to cover that brings this understanding. it starts in genesis...
 Quoting: Salt


for Shamar.
here you go.
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ugh... i already did show how you misquoted the scriptures.
you won't see it. you are stuck in the old law of the Torah and therefore are blind to this correction.
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that "old law of the Torah" ......

I am positive you don't know of what you speak.

And I will be stuck in and glad to be so for all of eternity. You will be stuck in it too, in the future....hf
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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thank you Salt....I appreciate your efforts. But you aren't showing me how I am wrong, or how I have added or removed text. You are copy/pasting a bunch of stuff from other people, the same stuff that I also was taught all my life.

I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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ugh... i already did show how you misquoted the scriptures.
you won't see it. you are stuck in the old law of the Torah and therefore are blind to this correction.
 Quoting: Salt


that "old law of the Torah" ......

I am positive you don't know of what you speak.

And I will be stuck in and glad to be so for all of eternity. You will be stuck in it too, in the future....hf
 Quoting: Shamar


ok cool
so there is nothing more to discuss with each other then, right?

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