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46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill

 
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In regard to the man of evil, it appears that the door to salvation will be shut when he comes on the scene (similar to the door of the arc closing).

God will at that time send a strong delusion upon the world. Those people who have been in rebellion against God their whole lives will be turned over to their unbelief......and follow the man of evil.


2 Thess 2: 8-12
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ok cool
so there is nothing more to discuss with each other then, right?
 Quoting: Salt


I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me.
 Quoting: Shamar


Not with a copy paste from somebody else, but by your own reasoning.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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ok cool
so there is nothing more to discuss with each other then, right?
 Quoting: Salt


I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me.
 Quoting: Shamar


Not with a copy paste from somebody else, but by your own reasoning.
 Quoting: Shamar


i am done with this with you. there is no reaching you if you can't even recognize your error with replacing "man who refuses the Torah" with "lawless one" or "wicked one"

there is no reaching you.

not wasting my time on it.

sorry.

start a thread on it, why don't you?
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1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25

2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27

Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time.

3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8

This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44

4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8

5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelations 13:1-2

Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe.

6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25

7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelations 13:11-12

8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelations 17:8

More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government.

9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelations 17:14

10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelations 17:11

Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome

11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8

12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.

13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23

14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23

15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25
It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie.

16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelations 13:5

17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27
It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody.

18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36

20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31

50% rule observed - for the remaining 23 prophecies:
[link to www.raptureme.com]
 Quoting: Salt


Hi Salt, rose

You have a long list. #23 is wrong, the word was changed
in Protestant Bibles. The first Bible, the Latin Vulgate
says "continual" not "daily." Daniel repeats this term in more than one verse, the "continual sacrifice." Where in Judaism today or Protesantism is there a "continual sacrifice?"

There isn't any.

The "continual sacrifice" offered daily, every hour around
the world for twenty centuries is the Holy Sacrifice of the
Mass.

The "abomination of desolation" spoken of along with the
"continual sacrifice" is the anti-Christ's attempt to take
away the most Holy Eucharist. Remember dear sister, Satan
believes even if Protestants and Judaism doesn't. Satanists
mimic the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...black Masses...and
they steal consecrated hosts to desecrate them.

Keep this on your heart and you'll remember when the
Great Warning happens (Rev 6:15-17).

Daniel 11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall defile the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the continual sacrifice, and they shall place there the abomination unto desolation.Daniel [link to www.drbo.org]
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ok cool
so there is nothing more to discuss with each other then, right?
 Quoting: Salt


I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me.
 Quoting: Shamar


Not with a copy paste from somebody else, but by your own reasoning.
 Quoting: Shamar


i am done with this with you. there is no reaching you if you can't even recognize your error with replacing "man who refuses the Torah" with "lawless one" or "wicked one"

there is no reaching you.

not wasting my time on it.

sorry.

start a thread on it, why don't you?
 Quoting: Salt


you can't do it, can you. Sorry salt, this is a cop out.

And I don't need to start my own thread on it, you won't visit it, so what's the point.

Why don't you open your mind a bit? Well, I am not here to argue. Anyone can research the two terms themselves to learn the truth of the matter. Just know that the word "law" did not exist in the Hebrew scrolls. It's a greek/english word. why that is so hard for you to understand and accept is beyond me.

But i am not here to sabatoge your thread.

Carry on ! I will leave ya'll alone........hf
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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ok cool
so there is nothing more to discuss with each other then, right?
 Quoting: Salt


I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me.
 Quoting: Shamar


Not with a copy paste from somebody else, but by your own reasoning.
 Quoting: Shamar


i am done with this with you. there is no reaching you if you can't even recognize your error with replacing "man who refuses the Torah" with "lawless one" or "wicked one"

there is no reaching you.

not wasting my time on it.

sorry.

start a thread on it, why don't you?
 Quoting: Salt


you can't do it, can you. Sorry salt, this is a cop out.

And I don't need to start my own thread on it, you won't visit it, so what's the point.

Why don't you open your mind a bit? Well, I am not here to argue. Anyone can research the two terms themselves to learn the truth of the matter. Just know that the word "law" did not exist in the Hebrew scrolls. It's a greek/english word. why that is so hard for you to understand and accept is beyond me.

But i am not here to sabatoge your thread.

Carry on ! I will leave ya'll alone........hf
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i can and i have. you can't accept it. there is nothing in this thread for you.
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Re: 46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill
1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25

2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27

Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time.

3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8

This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44

4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8

5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelations 13:1-2

Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe.

6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25

7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelations 13:11-12

8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelations 17:8

More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government.

9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelations 17:14

10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelations 17:11

Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome

11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8

12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.

13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23

14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23

15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25
It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie.

16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelations 13:5

17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27
It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody.

18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36

20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31

50% rule observed - for the remaining 23 prophecies:
[link to www.raptureme.com]
 Quoting: Salt


Hi Salt, rose

You have a long list. #23 is wrong, the word was changed
in Protestant Bibles. The first Bible, the Latin Vulgate
says "continual" not "daily." Daniel repeats this term in more than one verse, the "continual sacrifice." Where in Judaism today or Protesantism is there a "continual sacrifice?"

There isn't any.

The "continual sacrifice" offered daily, every hour around
the world for twenty centuries is the Holy Sacrifice of the
Mass.

The "abomination of desolation" spoken of along with the
"continual sacrifice" is the anti-Christ's attempt to take
away the most Holy Eucharist. Remember dear sister, Satan
believes even if Protestants and Judaism doesn't. Satanists
mimic the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...black Masses...and
they steal consecrated hosts to desecrate them.

Keep this on your heart and you'll remember when the
Great Warning happens (Rev 6:15-17).

Daniel 11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall defile the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the continual sacrifice, and they shall place there the abomination unto desolation.Daniel [link to www.drbo.org]
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here is one with understanding! Are you aware of the Desecration of the Altar at Notre Damn during the Festival of Reason?
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Re: 46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill
In regard to the man of evil, it appears that the door to salvation will be shut when he comes on the scene (similar to the door of the arc closing).

God will at that time send a strong delusion upon the world. Those people who have been in rebellion against God their whole lives will be turned over to their unbelief......and follow the man of evil.


2 Thess 2: 8-12
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T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

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Jesus said....

ANTICHRIST = Murderer - Liar - Can never know truth


John 8
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
 Quoting: abeliever
that was the co-creator spirit speaking from that ark you call jesus...did you forget poor lost soul that has given its spirits authority to the creation and lost its power over the creation..still drinking milk eh...and the spirit doesn't belong to no god or goddess,its free,always has been and is free and will always be free in any other incarnations into the creation..only a beast needs a master to keep it in line...those who remember they are spirit and keep their authority over the creation are the golden rules that come forth as the word..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


You are a lost spirit making up your its lies to mitigate its sinful mind. Sorry. Change or it's the pit for you!

John 8:47
The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.

 Quoting: abeliever
the spirit is free ,its doesn't "belong" to no one,it is love..it shares the same spirit with all..what is holding your ark up, sticks and mortar,isn't it the spirit? my spirit causes the ark to hear as with all the other senses..were sorry you gave your authority away to mistranslated scriptures which leaves out the female...the creator is both male and female just as our spirit is too..its only our arks that look like one creation...the word says to follow the spirit, does it not? if you placed your shoes in the spirits shoes to follow the spirit you would see the mistranslations...and the "PIT" is the pulPIT where souls drink milk instead of eating meat as spirit..actually the spirit calls the pulPIT ,the BULPIT too where souls aka beasts are located, in the sea of forgetfulness who forget their spirit and with equal measure with all others and there isn't a god or savior on a pedestal....the spirit cannot be separated,who told you the spirit could be separated and not shared by all?

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 10/04/2012 08:42 PM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Re: 46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill
1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25

2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27

Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time.

3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8

This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44

4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8

5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelations 13:1-2

Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe.

6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25

7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelations 13:11-12

8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelations 17:8

More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government.

9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelations 17:14

10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelations 17:11

Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome

11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8

12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.

13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23

14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23

15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25
It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie.

16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelations 13:5

17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27
It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody.

18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36

20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4

23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31

50% rule observed - for the remaining 23 prophecies:
[link to www.raptureme.com]
 Quoting: Salt


It looks antichrist is better than current pro christ leaders(demons) ruling the earth.
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Shamar


Those that follow the Pre-Trib position have strong emotions that attach them to this teaching......that the restrainer is the church.


As such.....they have to identify the restrainer as the church.....as this will add comfort for them that they will not be around on earth when the final man of evil shows up.


The truth is however that the Holy Spirit is everywhere at all times.......not just within and inside the bodies of Gentile believers in Christ.

They do not understand the battles that go on between angels.......as clearly shown in the book of Daniel.


Michael is the chief archangel......and stands guard over Israel.

In Daniel 12.....he will stand still.....and no longer protect Israel.

The 70 weeks prophecy was given to Danial in answer to his pray and in regard to his people Israel.


When the man of evil shows up......he will first try to kill off all the Jews. Satan has attempted this on many past occasions, apparently in an effort to disturb God's promise to Abraham (Gen 22)


God will defend His Holy Name......and protect a remnant of Israel supernaturally in the wilderness (Rev 12)


Satan will then become enraged.....and go after her offspring (Gentile Christians). (Rev 12)


These are those currently in Christ......as the door to salvation will be closed when the man of evil comes on the scene. There will be no "tribulation saints.".......as God will send a strong delusion upon the world when the man of evil shows up. (2 Thess)........just shortly before the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week.


God's wrath does not begin until the 7th Seal of Revelation.


The first five seals are the wrath of satin......and those that follow him. His evil ways/persecuton have been going on for hundreds of years now.....and will continue on through the end of the 5th Seal.


The 144,000 of Israel are NOT sealed from harm prior to the First Seal......but just prior to the 7th Seal. This is also when the Gentile believers in Christ will be caught up by angels.....just prior to God's wrath.


God's wrath is distinct......and cannot be duplicated by either Satan or man.
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please take the "biblical" manna and awake from the duality teachings of the surface "religious" dogma...a lot of the "bible" is decoded in my 777 thread..the manna releases the spirit trapped in a calcified pineal gland blocking the brain from learning anything other than duality dogma concepts and not seeing the hidden mysteries within the word...release the spirit and the spirit brings back all remembrance of where the translations are and what the deeper meanings are in the word..hf..it wont kill anyone to read my/our 777 thread with an open mind and be changed in the twinkling of an eye...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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I ask this out of ignorance . Is it not enough to Honor GOD and Christ by following the 10 commandments ??bumppeace

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I ask this out of ignorance . Is it not enough to Honor GOD and Christ by following the 10 commandments ??bumppeace
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amen. so simple.
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The Anti-Christ system is the Papacy.

How much more simple can it be than that ?
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The Anti-Christ system is the Papacy.

How much more simple can it be than that ?
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i think the antichrist will cross over and entangle many areas, not just the papacy
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Antichrist is most frequently referred to as a specific man foretold to be history's last and most terrible dictator, who will rule the world just before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

The term Antichrist has 2 meanings, basically. One: that which is against Christ, and two: that which counterfeits and/or takes the place of Christ.


The word Antichrist is mentioned specifically only in the following scriptures of the Bible.

"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time" (1 John 2:18).

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son" (1 John 2:22).

"And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world" (1 John 4:3).

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist" (2 John 1:7).

The future world leader who will be Antichrist is called by other names in Bible prophecy. He is called The little horn (Dan. 7: 8,) king of fierce countenance (Dan 8: 23,) the prince that shall come (Dan 9: 26,) the king (Dan 11: 36,) man of sin (2 Thes. 2: 3,) son of perdition (2 Thes 2: 3,) the beast (Rev. 13: 1-4, 12, 14-15, 17, chp. 19: 19-20, six hundred threescore and six (Rev. 13: 18,).

Prophecy writer/broadcaster, Daymond Duck writes the following about the one who is also called the lawless one.

Most scholars agree that John's usage of the word [Antichrist] implies two different meanings: 1) against the Christ, and 2) instead of the Christ. Both meanings fit the final fuhrer. The antichrist will be against the Christ; that is, he will be an enemy of the Christ, and he will try to replace the Christ; that is, he will be a false Christ.

Daniel revealed the final fuhrer's opposition to the Christ when he said the antichrist will "stand up against the Prince of princes" (Daniel 8:25). And Paul revealed the evil one's effort to replace the Christ when he said the antichrist will sit in the Temple as God "shewing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:3, 4). Many people have opposed Christ, but other than Satan, there has never been a more sinister or worthy opponent on the face of planet earth. Many false Christs have arisen and some have been noteworthy imposters, but there has never been a greater or more evil deceiver than this one.

What We Do Not Know About the Antichrist

Four things we do not know about the antichrist are the subject of much speculation. The first is his nationality. It is not hard to find writers who teach that the antichrist will be a Syrian. The Bible does not say he will come from that ancient nation, but some conclude this through reasoning that usually goes like this: "Antiochus Epiphanes was a type of the antichrist and he was a Syrian. Therefore, the antichrist will be a Syrian." The problem with this kind of reasoning is that it overlooks those individuals of other nationalities who were also a type of the antichrist. Nebuchadnezzar was a type of the antichrist and he was a Chaldean. So why not say the antichrist will be a Chaldean? Adolf Hitler was a type of the antichrist and he was a German. So why not say the antichrist will be a German? The same can be said for Pharoah, an Egyptian. We could go on and on, but the point is that this kind of reasoning does not settle the issue.

The second thing we do not know about the antichrist is whether he will be a Jew or a Gentile. Some say he will be a Jew because the Bible says, "neither shall he regard the God of his fathers" (Daniel 11:37 KJV). Others say he will be a Gentile because this verse has been incorrectly translated and it should read, "He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers" (Daniel 11:37 NIV). If the correct translation is "God," he will come from a monotheistic religion (probably Jewish); if the correct translation is "gods," he will come from a polytheistic religion (probably Gentile).

Then there are those who reason that "The antichrist will be Jewish because the Jews will accept him as their Messiah and they would never accept a Gentile." Or "The antichrist will be Jewish because he will be a counterfeit of Christ and He was a Jew. " The Reverend Jerry Falwell, whose theology is almost always very sound, got in trouble on this one. He believes the antichrist will be a Jew, and he may be right, but the fact is, whether the antichrist will be a Jew or a Gentile is not revealed in the Bible. And those who think he will be are definitely in the minority. Incidentally, one of the complaints against the Reverend Falwell has been that he is anti-Semitic for thinking like this. On the contrary, Falwell has long been one of Israel's strongest supporters and has done much to help the Jewish people.

The third thing we do not know about the antichrist is his name. We know "his number is Six hundred threescore and six," but that is different from his name (Revelation 13:18). Several elaborate systems have been developed in an effort to reveal the name of the antichrist, but they have all been wrong. Some names these systems have come up with are Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Henry Kissinger, Ronald Reagan, William 'Bill' Clinton, and several of the Popes. These should be seen for what they are - just wild guesses. Furthermore, trying to identify antichrist is just a waste of time because he will not be revealed until after the rapture (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12). Dr. Ed Hindson concisely stated it when he said:

Only after the rapture of the church will the identity of the antichrist be revealed. In other words, you don't want to know who he is. If you ever do figure out who he is, you have been left behind! This is absolutely true. Nothing is more futile than trying to identify the antichrist before the rapture. Doing so would be an effort to prove the Bible wrong. That has never happened and it is not going to happen now. All anyone does by trying to identify the antichrist before the church is taken out is embarrass himself and bring criticism upon Christians.

In connection with this, let me hasten to add that 666 is the antichrist's number. It is not my driver's license number, my credit card number, my Social Security number or any other number associated with me. Also, it is not any of your numbers. It will not be several billion different numbers for the several billion different individuals on earth. It is his number, one specific number that identifies one specific individual.

The fourth thing we do not know about the antichrist is whether or not he is already alive as a person. It seems reasonable that he will have to be a full-grown man when he appears. And if the rapture is as close as most prophetic authorities think, it makes sense to assume that he is not only alive, but already grown. The thing to remember is nobody knows and all a person can do is speculate.

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The reason so many people will follow the final man of evil will also be because a supernatural event is tied to him, namely, he will be a well know person from the past come back to life


or a current leader killed......who comes back to life.


The final 3.5 years will be full of events which people have never seen before.......supernatural in nature.



And yes.....the restrainer is Michael the archangel.....the one who stands guard over Israel. See Daniel Chp 12. In the end, he will stand up (stand still).....and no longer provide protection.


The man of evil will then attempt to extinguish Israel.....but God will protect a remnant supernaturally in the wilderness. (Rev 12)


God will defend His Holy Name, Word, and Promise made to Abraham for his act of faith and obedience. (Gen 22)


Satan will then go after the "offspring"......the Gentile Christians who have been grafted into the natural branch.


Rev. Chp 12
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I always thought the restrainer was the Holy Spirit
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the restrainer is the Holy Spirit. it is not Michael. the word restrainer was used before Jesus was here and named Him.
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the restrainer is our spirit of our flesh..the flesh is the beast> 666 carbon atom/adam <number of his name adam/atom..did you get that? any sheeple still confused about the codebook? we all got the mark of the beast,its flesh..rocks and dirt cant buy or sell.< that's why everyone is forced to take the mark.we all got to have flesh to live in as a functioning spirit whom tries not to fall asleep and forget we are a co-creator spirit directing our flesh.
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The spirit of AC John wrote about was in the world at his time. This was the same as Simon Magus of the book of Acts and grew into the Roman Church that was the prophesied falling away from God's law as Rome changed times & laws, the little horn that became the beast then found in Revelation ridden by the Harlot.

The 'raptureready' link has other problems claiming Dn 9:26 prince to come is anti christ when it was Jesus Christ as the entire 490 year prophecy is about Jesus, the Messiah (v 25, KJV).
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the antichrist is the democratically controlled u.s. government and barack obama is merely the head.

gabby giffords was the head wound.
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I'm not religious but if i had to guess who this supposed anti-christ would be I'd but my money on Kates child.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Thanks for the vids OP,

I agree with the guy untill he gets to the great whore. If you allow scripture to decipher scripture. The great whore would represent an unclean church. (Unless I missed a bit of scripture referring to virgins and whores being something else)
But the mans insight on Apallo and the nephelim nearly knocked me off my unicorn.

Sorry if this post messes up an ongoing conversation. I'm only on page 2 so please forgive me.

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I was going to pin this for you Salt. But you allowing all this back and forth fluff, never mind...

Alex, with all the karma you got. Sheesh, you should write and teach and pin teachings !

I just dont get why you dont.. You should if you want to prove something..

I bust my ass making interesting posts...

Oh well..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


i can pin it myself if i want to.
don't think it's pin worthy. just good topic of discussion.
 Quoting: Salt


Just came across this....

I believe your thread to be pin worthy due to its a great discussion. Compared to other threads of people tooting their own horns. Not only that but your touching some deep stuff. (Woulda messaged you this instead of taking space up but I'm a free member. So sorry for taking up space)

-serpent seed line.
-beast of revelations
-false hoods found in the Bible to trap.
-book of Daniel
-book of enoch
- But the big bonus is your not claiming to be a witness
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Thanks for the vids OP,

I agree with the guy untill he gets to the great whore. If you allow scripture to decipher scripture. The great whore would represent an unclean church. (Unless I missed a bit of scripture referring to virgins and whores being something else)
But the mans insight on Apallo and the nephelim nearly knocked me off my unicorn.

Sorry if this post messes up an ongoing conversation. I'm only on page 2 so please forgive me.

LOTZA LUV :D
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usually any female used in metaphor or vision in scripture refers to the church. if it as whore, then the church has become a harlot (in relation to religion)
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I was going to pin this for you Salt. But you allowing all this back and forth fluff, never mind...

Alex, with all the karma you got. Sheesh, you should write and teach and pin teachings !

I just dont get why you dont.. You should if you want to prove something..

I bust my ass making interesting posts...

Oh well..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


i can pin it myself if i want to.
don't think it's pin worthy. just good topic of discussion.
 Quoting: Salt


Just came across this....

I believe your thread to be pin worthy due to its a great discussion. Compared to other threads of people tooting their own horns. Not only that but your touching some deep stuff. (Woulda messaged you this instead of taking space up but I'm a free member. So sorry for taking up space)

-serpent seed line.
-beast of revelations
-false hoods found in the Bible to trap.
-book of Daniel
-book of enoch
- But the big bonus is your not claiming to be a witness
 Quoting: SEE <@> YOU


i don't buy into serpent seed line.

the bloodline in question are just luciferians that go way back to biblical times.
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IF there could ever be a single, first ever political leader, presumably of any single nation or perhaps MULTIPLE nations who would be considered a Messiah as in the supposed "Antichrist," do you think he (or she?) would be an intelligent enough person to be able to avoid ALL (or close enough) of the insanely, RETARDEDLY specific qualifications of said leader as delineated in the Bible? What if said (very apparently hypothetical) leader would be able to have jack fucking SHIT to do with fucking Israel (in any remarkable or outstanding manner), as a prime example among many, many examples? What would all the religious wackasses do if such a person didn't conform AT ALL (or close enough) to their wackass "Antichrist" expectations? Would they then be forced to acknowledge whomever is the FIRST to come (if ever) as the REAL Messiah? LMFAO!
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Hey Salt, have you seen this video? He basically talks about the tribulation and the anti-christ and things to come.
Good thread by the way <3


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