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| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 24625914 10/01/2012 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said.... Quoting: abeliever ANTICHRIST = Murderer - Liar - Can never know truth John 8 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 10/01/2012 10:38 AM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24625350 10/01/2012 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very close. You just need more Bible. Obviously the UN is a big player. Pit Beast [link to www.geocities.ws] |
| abeliever User ID: 17868616 10/01/2012 12:49 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said.... Quoting: abeliever ANTICHRIST = Murderer - Liar - Can never know truth John 8 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” You are a lost spirit making up your its lies to mitigate its sinful mind. Sorry. Change or it's the pit for you! John 8:47 The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God. |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 10/01/2012 01:36 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law." Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says? and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :( i did read your post. but, when people start misquoting scripture and adding or removing words, that usually shuts down the whole post. which it did. the entire premise of your post is based on incorrect, misunderstood and misquoted scripture. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Shamar User ID: 1479302 10/01/2012 01:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law." Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says? and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :( i did read your post. but, when people start misquoting scripture and adding or removing words, that usually shuts down the whole post. which it did. the entire premise of your post is based on incorrect, misunderstood and misquoted scripture. Well, if you don't mind, please elaborate. Show me how I misquoted, added or removed words and misunderstand the text. I showed how scriptures paralleled, and built off of that. As they say, scripture interprets scripture. the NT is built off the OT. Throughout the NT the OT is referenced. christians tend to take one verse from the NT and build their whole theology around that, completely ignoring the OT. That's incorrect and leads to false beliefs. So, humor me, and break down my post and show me where it is wrong. If you would like me to repost it and put the word "law" in, where "torah" is, that's not a problem, I would be happy to do so. Azazel hunter ~ Ephesians 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 17Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Elohim. * Deut. 33:25 Iron and brass shall be thy bars; and as thy days, so shall thy strength be. * Nima Miriam Shamar ba't Asher |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 10/01/2012 01:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law." Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says? and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :( i did read your post. but, when people start misquoting scripture and adding or removing words, that usually shuts down the whole post. which it did. the entire premise of your post is based on incorrect, misunderstood and misquoted scripture. Well, if you don't mind, please elaborate. Show me how I misquoted, added or removed words and misunderstand the text. I showed how scriptures paralleled, and built off of that. As they say, scripture interprets scripture. the NT is built off the OT. Throughout the NT the OT is referenced. christians tend to take one verse from the NT and build their whole theology around that, completely ignoring the OT. That's incorrect and leads to false beliefs. So, humor me, and break down my post and show me where it is wrong. If you would like me to repost it and put the word "law" in, where "torah" is, that's not a problem, I would be happy to do so. ugh... i already did show how you misquoted the scriptures. you won't see it. you are stuck in the old law of the Torah and therefore are blind to this correction. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Shamar User ID: 1479302 10/01/2012 01:59 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Shamar With all due respect, I was on topic with my post that spoke of the restrainer and the timing of the revealing. I don't think you read the post though as it seems you got hung up on the use of the word "torah" instead of the greek/english word "law." Instead of calling me a "legalist" which is a baseless and meritless claim, why don't you go back to that post, and dismantle it and show me how it doesn't say what it says? and again, I did not give you bad karma. Take a look at my own red karma, I have had some nasty things said to me, but I didn't accuse you of writing them....... :( i did read your post. but, when people start misquoting scripture and adding or removing words, that usually shuts down the whole post. which it did. the entire premise of your post is based on incorrect, misunderstood and misquoted scripture. Well, if you don't mind, please elaborate. Show me how I misquoted, added or removed words and misunderstand the text. I showed how scriptures paralleled, and built off of that. As they say, scripture interprets scripture. the NT is built off the OT. Throughout the NT the OT is referenced. christians tend to take one verse from the NT and build their whole theology around that, completely ignoring the OT. That's incorrect and leads to false beliefs. So, humor me, and break down my post and show me where it is wrong. If you would like me to repost it and put the word "law" in, where "torah" is, that's not a problem, I would be happy to do so. ugh... i already did show how you misquoted the scriptures. you won't see it. you are stuck in the old law of the Torah and therefore are blind to this correction. I must have missed it then, do you mind reposting? Azazel hunter ~ Ephesians 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 17Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Elohim. * Deut. 33:25 Iron and brass shall be thy bars; and as thy days, so shall thy strength be. * Nima Miriam Shamar ba't Asher |
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Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 10/01/2012 02:14 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Quoting: Salt And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: International Standard Version (©2008) Then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will destroy with the breath of his mouth, rendering him powerless by the manifestation of his coming. Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) And then that Evil One will be revealed, whom our Lord Yeshua will consume with a breath of his mouth, and will destroy him by the revelation of his coming. GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) Then the man of sin will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will destroy him by what he says. When the Lord Jesus comes, his appearance will put an end to this man. King James 2000 Bible (©2003) And then shall that Wicked One be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the breath of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: American King James Version And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: American Standard Version And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming; Douay-Rheims Bible And then that wicked one shall be revealed whom the Lord Jesus shall kill with the spirit of his mouth; and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming, him, you miss the entire point. these are New Testament scriptures. Jesus has already lived and fulfilled the law. keep them in the context that they should be. Quoting: Salt The Wicked One, Lawless One, Man of sin is the one against JESUS, not the Torah. you miss the entire point. these are New Testament scriptures. Jesus has already lived and fulfilled the law. keep them in the context that they should be. Quoting: Salt The Wicked One, Lawless One, Man of sin is the one against JESUS, not the Torah. aaahhhhhhhhhhh, therein lies our problem. Jesus IS the torah, so if the man of sin is against Jesus, he is also by default against The Word. And, fulfilled doesn't mean "end" it means He fulfilled it, he DID it, he did it completely and perfectly. And He taught US how to do it as well. So if we follow Him, we follow His loving instructions. What ARE his loving instructions? so you are j ew ish, then? Jesus is the Torah and much more. that's my point. there are 61 more books in the divine Holy Scripture. Jesus is the Word. The Torah is one fraction. Quoting: Salt King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Quoting: Salt And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: ... Quoting: Shamar aaahhhhhhhhhhh, therein lies our problem. Jesus IS the torah, so if the man of sin is against Jesus, he is also by default against The Word. And, fulfilled doesn't mean "end" it means He fulfilled it, he DID it, he did it completely and perfectly. And He taught US how to do it as well. So if we follow Him, we follow His loving instructions. What ARE his loving instructions? His loving instructions are to recognize Jesus as the son of God and since... “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24) Is that it? Is that all He wants or expects from His people? Just recognize Jesus as the Son of God? I think it is far, far more than that. When Jesus came, He came teaching that the Kingdom of God was at hand. If you are going to be a priest and a member of a holy nation, what are you going to do as a priest and member of His Kingdom? yes, Shamar, it is that simple. We are to believe, and to keep the commandments, but the most important commandment is to love. when we do this, we are priests and saints. the law has been fulfilled. it is finished. let go of your legalism. ... Quoting: Shamar Is that it? Is that all He wants or expects from His people? Just recognize Jesus as the Son of God? I think it is far, far more than that. When Jesus came, He came teaching that the Kingdom of God was at hand. If you are going to be a priest and a member of a holy nation, what are you going to do as a priest and member of His Kingdom? yes, Shamar, it is that simple. We are to believe, and to keep the commandments, but the most important commandment is to love. when we do this, we are priests and saints. the law has been fulfilled. it is finished. let go of your legalism. What legalism do you speak of? It is not yet finished, all has not been fulfilled? Heaven and earth are still here, right? And what commandments do you keep? And what does "Keep" even mean? Just questions I throw out to try to get people to think. and to not run with what we have all been taught all our lives. it IS finished. everything happening now is just the tumbling down to the final act. but, do not think for one second that it is not finished. When Jesus died on the cross, he said "it is FINISHED/ACCOMPLISHED" the only thing left to do is live as an example of Christ because the believers are the church, and to love your neighbor as yourself, all day, every day. i keep (am obedient) to all of the commandments. and when i fail at something, i repent, ask forgiveness and confess. people seem to really struggle with the simplicity and the beauty of living under grace. usually people who are still living under the legalism from the pharisees under the old law. Quoting: Salt we are under grace. period end of sentence. there is no atoning for our own sin. it is finished. people seem to really struggle with the simplicity and the beauty of living under grace. usually people who are still living under the legalism from the pharisees under the old law. Quoting: Salt we are under grace. period end of sentence. there is no atoning for our own sin. it is finished. scripture please? And if you don't mind....words other than Paul. Because if you ONLY rely on Paul, you are dismissing the red letter words. oh you are one of those... Paul is a pivotal piece to the foundation of the early church. there is no one scripture that encapsulates the essence. it is the entire book from cover to cover that brings this understanding. it starts in genesis... for Shamar. here you go. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Shamar User ID: 1479302 10/01/2012 02:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ugh... i already did show how you misquoted the scriptures. Quoting: Salt you won't see it. you are stuck in the old law of the Torah and therefore are blind to this correction. that "old law of the Torah" ...... I am positive you don't know of what you speak. And I will be stuck in and glad to be so for all of eternity. You will be stuck in it too, in the future.... Azazel hunter ~ Ephesians 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 17Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Elohim. * Deut. 33:25 Iron and brass shall be thy bars; and as thy days, so shall thy strength be. * Nima Miriam Shamar ba't Asher |
| Shamar User ID: 1479302 10/01/2012 02:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank you Salt....I appreciate your efforts. But you aren't showing me how I am wrong, or how I have added or removed text. You are copy/pasting a bunch of stuff from other people, the same stuff that I also was taught all my life. I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me. Azazel hunter ~ Ephesians 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 17Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Elohim. * Deut. 33:25 Iron and brass shall be thy bars; and as thy days, so shall thy strength be. * Nima Miriam Shamar ba't Asher |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 10/01/2012 02:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ugh... i already did show how you misquoted the scriptures. Quoting: Salt you won't see it. you are stuck in the old law of the Torah and therefore are blind to this correction. that "old law of the Torah" ...... I am positive you don't know of what you speak. And I will be stuck in and glad to be so for all of eternity. You will be stuck in it too, in the future.... ok cool so there is nothing more to discuss with each other then, right? "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24326290 10/01/2012 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In regard to the man of evil, it appears that the door to salvation will be shut when he comes on the scene (similar to the door of the arc closing). God will at that time send a strong delusion upon the world. Those people who have been in rebellion against God their whole lives will be turned over to their unbelief......and follow the man of evil. 2 Thess 2: 8-12 |
| Shamar User ID: 1479302 10/01/2012 03:13 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me. Quoting: Shamar Not with a copy paste from somebody else, but by your own reasoning. Azazel hunter ~ Ephesians 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 17Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Elohim. * Deut. 33:25 Iron and brass shall be thy bars; and as thy days, so shall thy strength be. * Nima Miriam Shamar ba't Asher |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 10/01/2012 03:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me. Quoting: Shamar Not with a copy paste from somebody else, but by your own reasoning. i am done with this with you. there is no reaching you if you can't even recognize your error with replacing "man who refuses the Torah" with "lawless one" or "wicked one" there is no reaching you. not wasting my time on it. sorry. start a thread on it, why don't you? "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20541213 10/01/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25 Quoting: Salt 2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27 Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time. 3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8 This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44 4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8 5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelations 13:1-2 Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe. 6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25 7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelations 13:11-12 8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelations 17:8 More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government. 9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelations 17:14 10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelations 17:11 Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome 11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8 12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20 The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him. 13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23 14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23 15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25 It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie. 16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelations 13:5 17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27 It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody. 18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36 20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31 50% rule observed - for the remaining 23 prophecies: [link to www.raptureme.com] Hi Salt, You have a long list. #23 is wrong, the word was changed in Protestant Bibles. The first Bible, the Latin Vulgate says "continual" not "daily." Daniel repeats this term in more than one verse, the "continual sacrifice." Where in Judaism today or Protesantism is there a "continual sacrifice?" There isn't any. The "continual sacrifice" offered daily, every hour around the world for twenty centuries is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. The "abomination of desolation" spoken of along with the "continual sacrifice" is the anti-Christ's attempt to take away the most Holy Eucharist. Remember dear sister, Satan believes even if Protestants and Judaism doesn't. Satanists mimic the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...black Masses...and they steal consecrated hosts to desecrate them. Keep this on your heart and you'll remember when the Great Warning happens (Rev 6:15-17). Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall defile the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the continual sacrifice, and they shall place there the abomination unto desolation.Daniel [link to www.drbo.org] |
| Shamar User ID: 1479302 10/01/2012 03:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me. Quoting: Shamar Not with a copy paste from somebody else, but by your own reasoning. i am done with this with you. there is no reaching you if you can't even recognize your error with replacing "man who refuses the Torah" with "lawless one" or "wicked one" there is no reaching you. not wasting my time on it. sorry. start a thread on it, why don't you? you can't do it, can you. Sorry salt, this is a cop out. And I don't need to start my own thread on it, you won't visit it, so what's the point. Why don't you open your mind a bit? Well, I am not here to argue. Anyone can research the two terms themselves to learn the truth of the matter. Just know that the word "law" did not exist in the Hebrew scrolls. It's a greek/english word. why that is so hard for you to understand and accept is beyond me. But i am not here to sabatoge your thread. Carry on ! I will leave ya'll alone........ Azazel hunter ~ Ephesians 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 17Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Elohim. * Deut. 33:25 Iron and brass shall be thy bars; and as thy days, so shall thy strength be. * Nima Miriam Shamar ba't Asher |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 10/01/2012 03:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am looking for you to take my scriptures and break them down, and show me how they are wrongly misunderstood and misapplied by me. Quoting: Shamar Not with a copy paste from somebody else, but by your own reasoning. i am done with this with you. there is no reaching you if you can't even recognize your error with replacing "man who refuses the Torah" with "lawless one" or "wicked one" there is no reaching you. not wasting my time on it. sorry. start a thread on it, why don't you? you can't do it, can you. Sorry salt, this is a cop out. And I don't need to start my own thread on it, you won't visit it, so what's the point. Why don't you open your mind a bit? Well, I am not here to argue. Anyone can research the two terms themselves to learn the truth of the matter. Just know that the word "law" did not exist in the Hebrew scrolls. It's a greek/english word. why that is so hard for you to understand and accept is beyond me. But i am not here to sabatoge your thread. Carry on ! I will leave ya'll alone........ i can and i have. you can't accept it. there is nothing in this thread for you. Last Edited by Salt on 10/01/2012 03:43 PM "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21008556 10/01/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25 Quoting: Salt 2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27 Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time. 3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8 This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44 4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8 5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelations 13:1-2 Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe. 6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25 7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelations 13:11-12 8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelations 17:8 More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government. 9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelations 17:14 10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelations 17:11 Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome 11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8 12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20 The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him. 13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23 14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23 15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25 It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie. 16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelations 13:5 17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27 It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody. 18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36 20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31 50% rule observed - for the remaining 23 prophecies: [link to www.raptureme.com] Hi Salt, You have a long list. #23 is wrong, the word was changed in Protestant Bibles. The first Bible, the Latin Vulgate says "continual" not "daily." Daniel repeats this term in more than one verse, the "continual sacrifice." Where in Judaism today or Protesantism is there a "continual sacrifice?" There isn't any. The "continual sacrifice" offered daily, every hour around the world for twenty centuries is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. The "abomination of desolation" spoken of along with the "continual sacrifice" is the anti-Christ's attempt to take away the most Holy Eucharist. Remember dear sister, Satan believes even if Protestants and Judaism doesn't. Satanists mimic the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...black Masses...and they steal consecrated hosts to desecrate them. Keep this on your heart and you'll remember when the Great Warning happens (Rev 6:15-17). Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall defile the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the continual sacrifice, and they shall place there the abomination unto desolation.Daniel [link to www.drbo.org] here is one with understanding! Are you aware of the Desecration of the Altar at Notre Damn during the Festival of Reason? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24326290 10/01/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In regard to the man of evil, it appears that the door to salvation will be shut when he comes on the scene (similar to the door of the arc closing). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24326290 God will at that time send a strong delusion upon the world. Those people who have been in rebellion against God their whole lives will be turned over to their unbelief......and follow the man of evil. 2 Thess 2: 8-12 |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 24907583 10/04/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said.... Quoting: abeliever ANTICHRIST = Murderer - Liar - Can never know truth John 8 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” You are a lost spirit making up your its lies to mitigate its sinful mind. Sorry. Change or it's the pit for you! John 8:47 The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God. Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 10/04/2012 08:42 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Star God User ID: 18056169 10/06/2012 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25 Quoting: Salt 2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27 Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time. 3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8 This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44 4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8 5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelations 13:1-2 Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe. 6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25 7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelations 13:11-12 8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelations 17:8 More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government. 9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelations 17:14 10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelations 17:11 Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome 11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8 12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20 The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him. 13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23 14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23 15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25 It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie. 16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelations 13:5 17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27 It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody. 18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36 20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4 23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31 50% rule observed - for the remaining 23 prophecies: [link to www.raptureme.com] It looks antichrist is better than current pro christ leaders(demons) ruling the earth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8000286 10/06/2012 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shamar Those that follow the Pre-Trib position have strong emotions that attach them to this teaching......that the restrainer is the church. As such.....they have to identify the restrainer as the church.....as this will add comfort for them that they will not be around on earth when the final man of evil shows up. The truth is however that the Holy Spirit is everywhere at all times.......not just within and inside the bodies of Gentile believers in Christ. They do not understand the battles that go on between angels.......as clearly shown in the book of Daniel. Michael is the chief archangel......and stands guard over Israel. In Daniel 12.....he will stand still.....and no longer protect Israel. The 70 weeks prophecy was given to Danial in answer to his pray and in regard to his people Israel. When the man of evil shows up......he will first try to kill off all the Jews. Satan has attempted this on many past occasions, apparently in an effort to disturb God's promise to Abraham (Gen 22) God will defend His Holy Name......and protect a remnant of Israel supernaturally in the wilderness (Rev 12) Satan will then become enraged.....and go after her offspring (Gentile Christians). (Rev 12) These are those currently in Christ......as the door to salvation will be closed when the man of evil comes on the scene. There will be no "tribulation saints.".......as God will send a strong delusion upon the world when the man of evil shows up. (2 Thess)........just shortly before the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week. God's wrath does not begin until the 7th Seal of Revelation. The first five seals are the wrath of satin......and those that follow him. His evil ways/persecuton have been going on for hundreds of years now.....and will continue on through the end of the 5th Seal. The 144,000 of Israel are NOT sealed from harm prior to the First Seal......but just prior to the 7th Seal. This is also when the Gentile believers in Christ will be caught up by angels.....just prior to God's wrath. God's wrath is distinct......and cannot be duplicated by either Satan or man. |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 24907583 10/06/2012 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | please take the "biblical" manna and awake from the duality teachings of the surface "religious" dogma...a lot of the "bible" is decoded in my 777 thread..the manna releases the spirit trapped in a calcified pineal gland blocking the brain from learning anything other than duality dogma concepts and not seeing the hidden mysteries within the word...release the spirit and the spirit brings back all remembrance of where the translations are and what the deeper meanings are in the word.. How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Stickyfoot User ID: 25072773 10/06/2012 01:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I ask this out of ignorance . Is it not enough to Honor GOD and Christ by following the 10 commandments ?? ![]() Last Edited by Stickyfoot on 10/06/2012 01:31 PM Stickyfoot,i think i stepped in something |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 10/06/2012 05:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I ask this out of ignorance . Is it not enough to Honor GOD and Christ by following the 10 commandments ?? Quoting: Stickyfoot ![]() amen. so simple. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 10/31/2012 07:24 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Anti-Christ system is the Papacy. Quoting: Dr_Kynes 4209135 How much more simple can it be than that ? i think the antichrist will cross over and entangle many areas, not just the papacy "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/09/2012 08:46 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Antichrist is most frequently referred to as a specific man foretold to be history's last and most terrible dictator, who will rule the world just before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. The term Antichrist has 2 meanings, basically. One: that which is against Christ, and two: that which counterfeits and/or takes the place of Christ. The word Antichrist is mentioned specifically only in the following scriptures of the Bible. "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time" (1 John 2:18). "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son" (1 John 2:22). "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world" (1 John 4:3). "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist" (2 John 1:7). The future world leader who will be Antichrist is called by other names in Bible prophecy. He is called The little horn (Dan. 7: 8,) king of fierce countenance (Dan 8: 23,) the prince that shall come (Dan 9: 26,) the king (Dan 11: 36,) man of sin (2 Thes. 2: 3,) son of perdition (2 Thes 2: 3,) the beast (Rev. 13: 1-4, 12, 14-15, 17, chp. 19: 19-20, six hundred threescore and six (Rev. 13: 18,). Prophecy writer/broadcaster, Daymond Duck writes the following about the one who is also called the lawless one. Most scholars agree that John's usage of the word [Antichrist] implies two different meanings: 1) against the Christ, and 2) instead of the Christ. Both meanings fit the final fuhrer. The antichrist will be against the Christ; that is, he will be an enemy of the Christ, and he will try to replace the Christ; that is, he will be a false Christ. Daniel revealed the final fuhrer's opposition to the Christ when he said the antichrist will "stand up against the Prince of princes" (Daniel 8:25). And Paul revealed the evil one's effort to replace the Christ when he said the antichrist will sit in the Temple as God "shewing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:3, 4). Many people have opposed Christ, but other than Satan, there has never been a more sinister or worthy opponent on the face of planet earth. Many false Christs have arisen and some have been noteworthy imposters, but there has never been a greater or more evil deceiver than this one. What We Do Not Know About the Antichrist Four things we do not know about the antichrist are the subject of much speculation. The first is his nationality. It is not hard to find writers who teach that the antichrist will be a Syrian. The Bible does not say he will come from that ancient nation, but some conclude this through reasoning that usually goes like this: "Antiochus Epiphanes was a type of the antichrist and he was a Syrian. Therefore, the antichrist will be a Syrian." The problem with this kind of reasoning is that it overlooks those individuals of other nationalities who were also a type of the antichrist. Nebuchadnezzar was a type of the antichrist and he was a Chaldean. So why not say the antichrist will be a Chaldean? Adolf Hitler was a type of the antichrist and he was a German. So why not say the antichrist will be a German? The same can be said for Pharoah, an Egyptian. We could go on and on, but the point is that this kind of reasoning does not settle the issue. The second thing we do not know about the antichrist is whether he will be a Jew or a Gentile. Some say he will be a Jew because the Bible says, "neither shall he regard the God of his fathers" (Daniel 11:37 KJV). Others say he will be a Gentile because this verse has been incorrectly translated and it should read, "He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers" (Daniel 11:37 NIV). If the correct translation is "God," he will come from a monotheistic religion (probably Jewish); if the correct translation is "gods," he will come from a polytheistic religion (probably Gentile). Then there are those who reason that "The antichrist will be Jewish because the Jews will accept him as their Messiah and they would never accept a Gentile." Or "The antichrist will be Jewish because he will be a counterfeit of Christ and He was a Jew. " The Reverend Jerry Falwell, whose theology is almost always very sound, got in trouble on this one. He believes the antichrist will be a Jew, and he may be right, but the fact is, whether the antichrist will be a Jew or a Gentile is not revealed in the Bible. And those who think he will be are definitely in the minority. Incidentally, one of the complaints against the Reverend Falwell has been that he is anti-Semitic for thinking like this. On the contrary, Falwell has long been one of Israel's strongest supporters and has done much to help the Jewish people. The third thing we do not know about the antichrist is his name. We know "his number is Six hundred threescore and six," but that is different from his name (Revelation 13:18). Several elaborate systems have been developed in an effort to reveal the name of the antichrist, but they have all been wrong. Some names these systems have come up with are Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Henry Kissinger, Ronald Reagan, William 'Bill' Clinton, and several of the Popes. These should be seen for what they are - just wild guesses. Furthermore, trying to identify antichrist is just a waste of time because he will not be revealed until after the rapture (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12). Dr. Ed Hindson concisely stated it when he said: Only after the rapture of the church will the identity of the antichrist be revealed. In other words, you don't want to know who he is. If you ever do figure out who he is, you have been left behind! This is absolutely true. Nothing is more futile than trying to identify the antichrist before the rapture. Doing so would be an effort to prove the Bible wrong. That has never happened and it is not going to happen now. All anyone does by trying to identify the antichrist before the church is taken out is embarrass himself and bring criticism upon Christians. In connection with this, let me hasten to add that 666 is the antichrist's number. It is not my driver's license number, my credit card number, my Social Security number or any other number associated with me. Also, it is not any of your numbers. It will not be several billion different numbers for the several billion different individuals on earth. It is his number, one specific number that identifies one specific individual. The fourth thing we do not know about the antichrist is whether or not he is already alive as a person. It seems reasonable that he will have to be a full-grown man when he appears. And if the rapture is as close as most prophetic authorities think, it makes sense to assume that he is not only alive, but already grown. The thing to remember is nobody knows and all a person can do is speculate. 50% rule observed [link to www.raptureready.com] Last Edited by Salt on 12/09/2012 08:47 PM "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27089841 12/09/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason so many people will follow the final man of evil will also be because a supernatural event is tied to him, namely, he will be a well know person from the past come back to life Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24326290 or a current leader killed......who comes back to life. The final 3.5 years will be full of events which people have never seen before.......supernatural in nature. And yes.....the restrainer is Michael the archangel.....the one who stands guard over Israel. See Daniel Chp 12. In the end, he will stand up (stand still).....and no longer provide protection. The man of evil will then attempt to extinguish Israel.....but God will protect a remnant supernaturally in the wilderness. (Rev 12) God will defend His Holy Name, Word, and Promise made to Abraham for his act of faith and obedience. (Gen 22) Satan will then go after the "offspring"......the Gentile Christians who have been grafted into the natural branch. Rev. Chp 12 I always thought the restrainer was the Holy Spirit the restrainer is the Holy Spirit. it is not Michael. the word restrainer was used before Jesus was here and named Him. |