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How the afterlife really works

 
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Cool story bro, say it again!
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Well, I can only tell you what the book says, but apparently communication is telepathic in the place in between lives, so that everyone knows everything about everyone else -- their deepest feelings and thoughts. Also, it postulates that souls at their very core are never evil; they just get sucked into the temptations and pressures of earthly life. But when they go back after death and remember everything, they move back into this more "evolved" state, if you will. Though he says it's not all souls are perfect -- that's why they need the earth experience, to mature.
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It could all be a setup. A trap to get a recently dead being to choose an incarnation of essentially, slavery.

The deception runs deep ... on all levels. If God was protecting us at every step, we wouldn't have the problems we have on this planet.

It's a war for resources. Better incarnation placement is a most valuable resource! Perhaps the MOST valuable of all.
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I REALLY don't want to come back here again...
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I want to know who the hell
keeps coming back as a Rothschilds ???
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in general i find it a very interesting point that the elites keep planing so far in the future and care so much about the time after they are dead.


When you look how the illuminati are working on their agenda for a few hundred years now.


Guys like Kissinger and Rockefeller are 90+ years old and they are still obsessed with the nwo etc.

why would they still care so much? they gonna die in a few years.

Maybe they know more about afterlife than we do.
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What I find kind of amusing and kind of sad is how desperately many of those people -- esp. atheists -- are clinging to the science of life extension, anti-aging and (in my opinion) abominations like cryogenic preservation (i.e., freezing your body or, the cheaper version, only your head once you're dead, in the hopes someone might revive you in the future). Makes me shudder. As I like to say, survival is overrated.
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Disagree. Earth is a spirit trap. We never volunteered, we were deceived. Our spirits don't belong here.
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The book says that if we had the complete information, we might a) spend too much time fretting about the past, b) might spend too much time trying to get even for real or perceived injustices that happened to us in the past, and/or c) wouldn't take this whole earth experience very seriously... and his subjects emphasize how important it is that we do take it seriously (though not necessarily ourselves).
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I call BS on this. We'd all be much better off with a more complete memory of our past lives, why we're here, mistakes we've made, etc. MUCH better off. Our lack of memory is a plague, not a blessing.
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Disagree. Earth is a spirit trap. We never volunteered, we were deceived. Our spirits don't belong here.
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Your physical mind would never agree to come here, but your spirit would, and did.
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Because one thing that really bothered me is if Heaven and Hell really existed;


When you die, you go to heaven if you are good. If you're bad you go to hell for eternity.

Then what if, you were good and you end up in heaven, and a loved one of yours was not so much so he/she didn't make the cut and ends up in hell.

How can you spend eternity in heaven knowing a loved one of yours is in torment in hell.

Right?
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I'll give you one better: I read a story once of a very devout Christian mother with two sons. One was a wonderful person and devoted a lot of time to take care of his elderly mother, but he wasn't religious at all. The other believed in Jesus and went to church on a regular basis, but was a selfish bastard and didn't give a damn about his mother or anyone else.

At some point the good son had a fatal accident, and the mother mentioned to the priest if he thought her son may end up in hell. The priest sadly said, " Yes, he will, but at least the other one's saved."

That kind of thing never made sense to me.
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I know right. Doesn't make sense at all. And I don't see why this is not addressed, or if it was I haven't come across it.

I attended a Catholic School since elementary and I remember as a kid I asked one priest what happens to those people who were not aware of the Bible and it's teachings.

What happens to all those ancient people before the Bible? Do they all go to hell? Regardless if they were good?

I never did get an answer.

Then and there I knew no religion can really tell you the truth.

I don't subscribe to the Atheist way of thinking either cause as far as I'm concerned some of them are also the same as these religious fanatics. Blabbering and noisy, but when it all comes down to it, don't know diddly-squat.
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Dam and i thought we were just slaves
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The reality is, that on this planet, a tiny group of people make most of the rules that pretty much set the stage for how it all works.

Why would the afterlife be any different?

Our only real chance is awareness. The more we dumb ourselves down with alcohol, pain killers, mind numbing intertainment and time spent with idiotic people, the more likely we are to be duped ... over and over and over ... from lifetime to lifetime.

Awareness matters.
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The book says that if we had the complete information, we might a) spend too much time fretting about the past, b) might spend too much time trying to get even for real or perceived injustices that happened to us in the past, and/or c) wouldn't take this whole earth experience very seriously... and his subjects emphasize how important it is that we do take it seriously (though not necessarily ourselves).
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I call BS on this. We'd all be much better off with a more complete memory of our past lives, why we're here, mistakes we've made, etc. MUCH better off. Our lack of memory is a plague, not a blessing.
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I didn't say it was a blessing, but it raises the challenge.
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Disagree. Earth is a spirit trap. We never volunteered, we were deceived. Our spirits don't belong here.
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Your physical mind would never agree to come here, but your spirit would, and did.
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^^^THIS
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I believe there are principles of reincarnation but I also believe in a lot of randomness in it.

For example, why do people choose to be reincarnated into a baby if every present indication says it will die in a few days?
Answer: We can't choose.

Explain ghosts.
Answer: Ghosts are people stuck and can't reincarnate.

Explain why everyone thinks they are the reincarnation of a famous person.
Answer: Souls and memories duplicate when bodies do. It could explain why there are 100 Cleopatras.
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Illuminati, in my conception, are some kind of resistance against God's methods.

They hate life, they hate being prisioners. So, they commit crimes against God's work. They are like rebels, that's why they worship the idea of Devil, Hell, satanism...
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Gotta go to bed, guys, nice talking to you. I'll check back in tomorrow.
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The reality is, that on this planet, a tiny group of people make most of the rules that pretty much set the stage for how it all works.

Why would the afterlife be any different?

Our only real chance is awareness. The more we dumb ourselves down with alcohol, pain killers, mind numbing intertainment and time spent with idiotic people, the more likely we are to be duped ... over and over and over ... from lifetime to lifetime.

Awareness matters.
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Not a tiny group anymore because peoples make choices in many life time and become associate with that was once a tiny Group..!
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The book says that if we had the complete information, we might a) spend too much time fretting about the past, b) might spend too much time trying to get even for real or perceived injustices that happened to us in the past, and/or c) wouldn't take this whole earth experience very seriously... and his subjects emphasize how important it is that we do take it seriously (though not necessarily ourselves).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23981483


I call BS on this. We'd all be much better off with a more complete memory of our past lives, why we're here, mistakes we've made, etc. MUCH better off. Our lack of memory is a plague, not a blessing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


If you could remember and had the full knowledge of your soul while you are on earth, it would be to easy to do the right thing.

I mean i havent even read the book yet but i could imagine that life is a lesson and you have to repeat again and again untill you get it right.


When you look at the world and how people act i would guess that 999 of 1000 people will have to repeat after they die.

How many people are out there who really can say "i was a good person all my life and did the right things". I mean we dont even know what are th right things. We only have our own man made ideas of what defines a good person.
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I didn't say it was a blessing, but it raises the challenge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Our loss of memory from incarnation to incarnation is, by far, the biggest obstacle we face as a species. Spinning this state of amnesia (dimensia?) as some kind of "learning tool" necessary for physical life is so ludicrous and one of the most ridiculous assertions of the new age movement.

Our collective amnesia makes us endlessly vulnerable to virtually every form of deception and exploitation.
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There's a good youtube of the guy giving an interview, it correlated very much with what I have realized and discovered. He's very refreshing and his info rings true. I matches up with the Ra Material and information I have gather from all corners of my life.
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And what the hell would be wrong with that? With the ability to make better decisions? To remember past failures and improve this planet?

What possible benefit is there to being wiped of memory so that we are more likely to make the same stupid choices over and over and over.

It's simply an exploitation game being played at the highest macro level. It is an affliction, not a learning device. That's what the hidden 90% of our potential is that we hear so much about. It's what gets activated once we fully claim our immortal memory.

Immortality is simple. It's retaining your memory forever. From incarnation to incarnation. It's not living forever. It's retaining memory. We are born into a sea of total ignorance and unless we wake up, we will choose another chapter of ignorance over and over and over. It's a trap.
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I REALLY don't want to come back here again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23930030


I want to know who the hell
keeps coming back as a Rothschilds ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23976472


in general i find it a very interesting point that the elites keep planing so far in the future and care so much about the time after they are dead.


When you look how the illuminati are working on their agenda for a few hundred years now.


Guys like Kissinger and Rockefeller are 90+ years old and they are still obsessed with the nwo etc.

why would they still care so much? they gonna die in a few years.

Maybe they know more about afterlife than we do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23941230


5+ thank you! I've always wondered this myself. Why were people in the early 1800's planning something 200 hundred years in the future when they'd be dead and gone?
Kamon
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I REALLY don't want to come back here again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23930030


I want to know who the hell
keeps coming back as a Rothschilds ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23976472


in general i find it a very interesting point that the elites keep planing so far in the future and care so much about the time after they are dead.


When you look how the illuminati are working on their agenda for a few hundred years now.


Guys like Kissinger and Rockefeller are 90+ years old and they are still obsessed with the nwo etc.

why would they still care so much? they gonna die in a few years.

Maybe they know more about afterlife than we do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23941230


5+ thank you! I've always wondered this myself. Why were people in the early 1800's planning something 200 hundred years in the future when they'd be dead and gone?
 Quoting: Kamon


Maybe for some reason they know they would be back, and get to choose who they are going to be.

Cosmic lottery rigged or something?
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I REALLY don't want to come back here again...
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I


Guys like Kissinger and Rockefeller are 90+ years old and they are still obsessed with the nwo etc.

why would they still care so much? they gonna die in a few years.

Maybe they know more about afterlife than we do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23976472


5+ thank you! I've always wondered this myself. Why were people in the early 1800's planning something 200 hundred years in the future when they'd be dead and gone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23941230


Those at the absolute top of the pyramid have influence and control of the incarnation system. It's that simple. And they can control those at the absolute top of our planetary leadership pyramid by giving them incredible promises of placement right back into the leadership positions ... incarnation after incarnation.
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OP is spot on. Read near death experiences, they all are basically showing the same thing. A lot of psychics are bullshit, but read up on the teachings of Edgar Cayce, he was the real thing. There's a ton of his stuff out there.
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you got a point. Can you imagine what an amazing place the world would be if we had the knowledge and wisdom of our past lifes?
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All my life I had been a devote Christian, however, over the past year or so this has changed. It's amazing OP, just how close to your post my beliefs are now and I came to this understanding through interaction with inter-dimensional beings who I have come to call my family! I absolutely still believe in the teachings of the Christ as I believe they coincide closely to my current understanding.
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Obviously. This is our number one obstacle to overcome. It is the key to immorality. It is the core of Taoism at the highest level. To achieve immortality through discovering our memory and learning how to keep it through eternity so that every existance ADDS to our knowledge.
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No, it's not a trap, to erase your memory time after time. It's to protect you from yourself. You would go paranoid if you would reincarnate with your past life's memories, it would not work. Imagine how crazy would it be. And by other hand, the erase of memories gives you a fresh start, a clean head, to start again. It's not to put you in ignorance, is a God's providence, to help you.
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Our loss of memory from incarnation to incarnation is, by far, the biggest obstacle we face as a species. Spinning this state of amnesia (dimensia?) as some kind of "learning tool" necessary for physical life is so ludicrous and one of the most ridiculous assertions of the new age movement.

Our collective amnesia makes us endlessly vulnerable to virtually every form of deception and exploitation.
 Quoting: sylvie


Loss of memory IS a blessing. Some past life memories can be very harmful. You could compare each new life to a new school term, a blank page, a clean slate, an opportunity to make better choices than you may have made last time. The choices you make now are what matter.
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Total BS. WE would be MUCH better off with more of our memories from our journeys through eternity.
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Loss of memory IS a blessing. Some past life memories can be very harmful. You could compare each new life to a new school term, a blank page, a clean slate, an opportunity to make better choices than you may have made last time. The choices you make now are what matter.
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Baloney.
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I believe there are principles of reincarnation but I also believe in a lot of randomness in it.

For example, why do people choose to be reincarnated into a baby if every present indication says it will die in a few days?
Answer: We can't choose.

Explain ghosts.
Answer: Ghosts are people stuck and can't reincarnate.

Explain why everyone thinks they are the reincarnation of a famous person.
Answer: Souls and memories duplicate when bodies do. It could explain why there are 100 Cleopatras.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23947000


Edgar Cayce said that the spirit doesn't actually enter the fetus until shortly before birth. He said sometimes a spirit will decide that the most probably course the infants life will take won't serve its interests, so it ejects early. I read Cayce gave a reading near the end of his life, where a young girl came to him and it was actually the spirit of his sister that died in infancy. Something about his parents alcoholism or something like that made her decide not to go through with the life she would have faced with that kind of a problem.

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