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!!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!

 
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!!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
I guess their religion isn't as important as I thought ??? I wish they'd just burn down Mecca and tear down the Dome of the Rock while they're at it.....

Fighting within their own religion ???


"...The fighters from the Islamist group Ansar Dine (Defenders of Faith) began their destruction of the city's cultural treasures on July 1, shortly after UNESCO placed them on a list of endangered World Heritage sites."

[link to www.france24.com]


Like crazy rioters who burn down their own neighborhoods because something didn't go their way. LOL

I'll NEVER understand !! Or am I just misunderstanding something in the article ????? 1dunno1
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
Very bizarre???
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
“Surely we have sent to every nation a messenger saying worship Allah and avoid taghut [false gods]…” [Quran 16:30] Venerating saints, worshipping their graves and directing prayers to them is a clear violation of direct command of Allah to avoid Shirk
[link to ilmrush.wordpress.com]

I believe a few Muslim sects, such as Sufis, practice veneration of saints. Most muslims, don't agree with this.
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
Very bizarre???
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So I didn't "misunderstand" ????


These people have to be the most DESTRUCTIVE animals on the planet - to desecrate their own holy sites ????? !!!

CRAZY !!!!

wtf
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
“Surely we have sent to every nation a messenger saying worship Allah and avoid taghut [false gods]…” [Quran 16:30] Venerating saints, worshipping their graves and directing prayers to them is a clear violation of direct command of Allah to avoid Shirk
[link to ilmrush.wordpress.com]

I believe a few Muslim sects, such as Sufis, practice veneration of saints. Most muslims, don't agree with this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23964971


Yes, this is the case:

“Their version of Islam — Salafist, fundamentalist — considers the syncretic practices of Malian Sufism, with its veneration of saints and incorporation of vernacular practices, haram [religiously forbidden].”

[link to therevealer.org]
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
“Surely we have sent to every nation a messenger saying worship Allah and avoid taghut [false gods]…” [Quran 16:30] Venerating saints, worshipping their graves and directing prayers to them is a clear violation of direct command of Allah to avoid Shirk
[link to ilmrush.wordpress.com]

I believe a few Muslim sects, such as Sufis, practice veneration of saints. Most muslims, don't agree with this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23964971


So WHO decides ???? LOL Is ONE sect more important than another ? Like "Protestants" vs "Catholics" ???

I wish they'd just keep fighting each other and leave the rest of us "infidels" alone.
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
Very bizarre???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16294927


So I didn't "misunderstand" ????


These people have to be the most DESTRUCTIVE animals on the planet - to desecrate their own holy sites ????? !!!

CRAZY !!!!

wtf
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Just be thankful that you can't understand this Op....
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
I guess their religion isn't as important as I thought ??? I wish they'd just burn down Mecca and tear down the Dome of the Rock while they're at it.....

Fighting within their own religion ???


"...The fighters from the Islamist group Ansar Dine (Defenders of Faith) began their destruction of the city's cultural treasures on July 1, shortly after UNESCO placed them on a list of endangered World Heritage sites."

[link to www.france24.com]


Like crazy rioters who burn down their own neighborhoods because something didn't go their way. LOL

I'll NEVER understand !! Or am I just misunderstanding something in the article ????? 1dunno1
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


There is no saint-hood in Islam like in Catholicism. All humans (except Prophets and Messengers of God) are prone to sinning and making mistakes. It is a blasphemy to make a claim of saint-hood and to establish a place of worship at their sites (it is equivalent to idolatry): and that is the reason those people destroyed that tomb.
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
Very bizarre???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16294927


So I didn't "misunderstand" ????


These people have to be the most DESTRUCTIVE animals on the planet - to desecrate their own holy sites ????? !!!

CRAZY !!!!

wtf
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


Just be thankful that you can't understand this Op....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23181088


As a "wannabe" Buddhist who follows Christ's teachings.... I think organized religions are total BS and really are the root of all problems in this world. Makes the people easy to control and manipulate by TPTB.

My heart is absolutely broken, seeing what's happening to people who would otherwise be living happy lives, raising families, and enjoying God's wonderful creations.

Sooooooooo Sad !! How did this happen ?
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
I guess their religion isn't as important as I thought ??? I wish they'd just burn down Mecca and tear down the Dome of the Rock while they're at it.....

Fighting within their own religion ???


"...The fighters from the Islamist group Ansar Dine (Defenders of Faith) began their destruction of the city's cultural treasures on July 1, shortly after UNESCO placed them on a list of endangered World Heritage sites."

[link to www.france24.com]


Like crazy rioters who burn down their own neighborhoods because something didn't go their way. LOL

I'll NEVER understand !! Or am I just misunderstanding something in the article ????? 1dunno1
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


There is no saint-hood in Islam like in Catholicism. All humans (except Prophets and Messengers of God) are prone to sinning and making mistakes. It is a blasphemy to make a claim of saint-hood and to establish a place of worship at their sites (it is equivalent to idolatry): and that is the reason those people destroyed that tomb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22610466



Thank you for explaining that. But where/when did the confusion begin ? Didn't the Koran make that clear somewhere ? Or did somebody just decide to change the doctrine ?
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
Very bizarre???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16294927


So I didn't "misunderstand" ????


These people have to be the most DESTRUCTIVE animals on the planet - to desecrate their own holy sites ????? !!!

CRAZY !!!!

wtf
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


Just be thankful that you can't understand this Op....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23181088


As a "wannabe" Buddhist who follows Christ's teachings.... I think organized religions are total BS and really are the root of all problems in this world. Makes the people easy to control and manipulate by TPTB.

My heart is absolutely broken, seeing what's happening to people who would otherwise be living happy lives, raising families, and enjoying God's wonderful creations.

Sooooooooo Sad !! How did this happen ?
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!



The root of all problems is original sin, as well the Devil playing havoc and trying to lead us astray. We can't pass the buck, we've got to accuse ourselves. True religion tries to repair the damage that original sin has done via the sacraments and a life of prayer...
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
I really hope that I get out before they take over the world. How long do you think it will take them to get the numbers up to dominate?

Makes me think that a Chinese invasion would be a better alternative, all things considered.

If the PTB wont let us fight back they could at least send out suicide pills to everyone who doesnt want to submit. That would be better than being raped and having your head sawn off with a swiss army pocket knife.
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!

Thank you for explaining that. But where/when did the confusion begin ? Didn't the Koran make that clear somewhere ? Or did somebody just decide to change the doctrine ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward



As with other religions, there is more than one strand within Islam. It would be like a bunch of midwestern Protestant fundamentalists saying the pope was the antichrist and burning down the Vatican.
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!

Thank you for explaining that. But where/when did the confusion begin ? Didn't the Koran make that clear somewhere ? Or did somebody just decide to change the doctrine ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward



As with other religions, there is more than one strand within Islam. It would be like a bunch of midwestern Protestant fundamentalists saying the pope was the antichrist and burning down the Vatican.
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


That is true (i.e. differences between sects). The Shiites and the Sufis (and may be other sects) are ok with it and are actually organized like the Catholic Church (i.e. a human is raised to a sainthood position like Kumaini); but not the Sunnis.
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Re: !!! WTF !!???? Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali - They really are NUTS !!!
I really hope that I get out before they take over the world. How long do you think it will take them to get the numbers up to dominate?

Makes me think that a Chinese invasion would be a better alternative, all things considered.

If the PTB wont let us fight back they could at least send out suicide pills to everyone who doesnt want to submit. That would be better than being raped and having your head sawn off with a swiss army pocket knife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460690


I'm with YOU 100% on that one. Give me a "pill" to keep for emergency use !!!!

Stop the world.... I want to get off !!!!!!!!!!
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein

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