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Christians Anonymous - Twelve Steps to Recovery | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23708372  Germany09/18/2012 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22836020  United Kingdom09/18/2012 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people. 7He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.” 8A second angel followed and said, “Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.” 9A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.” 12This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus. 13Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.” |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24000671  India09/18/2012 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "CHRISTIANS ANONYMOUS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23708372 A Resource For Recovering Christians "The Christian is a fool...He that worships the invisible and prays to the dead. For if God were that which the believer had intended, it would be of the most vile and indescribeable of monstrosities..." C.Spellman (Great philosopher) ....THIS PAGE UNDER CONSTRUCTION "Christ is NOT the Answer...." (Group Motto) Thank you for visiting Christians Anonymous. If you are a friend of a Christian who needs help or are a Christian yourself, you have come to the right place. Within this site you will find the necessary steps that can help you or someone you love free themselves from the mental enslavement of this terrible disease. As a guide, I have instituted a program that I believe is an effective protocal for helping Christians free themselves from the addiction of Christianity. Many persons familar with Alcoholics Anonymous will recognize the Twelve Step Program that I utilize in counseling Christians. It is important to remember that like any addiction, Christianity is also a disease of the mind in many aspects. Persons afflicted with the fanatical beliefs that Christianity espouses are unaware to how deep in a religious abyss their faith has led them. The most important component of recovery is a recognition and admission that one is enslaved in the cult that is the Christian religion. With my step-by-step program, I have paved the way to helping Christians escape from the insanity they are governed by. WHAT IS CHRISTIANITY? THE FUNDAMENTALIST THREAT TESTIMONIALS GREAT QUOTES Twelve Steps To Recovery 1.) "We have admitted we are powerless over Christianity - that our faith has become unmanageable." The first step to recovery involves simple admission that Christianity controls you, that you no longer have the ability to think rationally. This is the key component to liberation from your religious chains. By falling victim to Christianity you must face up to the fact that you have allowed a cultic religion seize your powers of thought and of decision making. Once you can actually say to yourself - "Yes! I am a victim. I am powerless to this addiciton." - you can start looking to the second step. Firstly however, you absolutely must work this first step. Stand up and admit to yourself that you have allowed Christianity to overrun your life. 2.) "We came to the realization that Christianity could drive us to complete insanity." In your illusory view of the world, seen through the deceptive and unrealistic veil of Christianity, you have embarked on a journey down the road to madness. As you have already admitted that you have become a victim of your own religion, you must now face the reality that it has the potential of driving you insane. A good way to visualize this is to look at many of the religious leaders you see on programs such as TBN and the 700 Club. The men and women portrayed on these programs are clear-cut examples of the tragic symptoms of this disease. You must recognize the insanity they exhibit while they rant and rave, while they espouse their non-sensical ideas and speak the lies their religion supports. This step is of critical importance and yet it is one of the most difficult as it mandates you to admit that you are ideed a part of an illogical and dangerous cultic religion. You must face these realities head on. A way to better come to grips with this task is to reevaluate what your relgion asked you to believe in. Remember, you have been ordered to worship a dead cult leader - Jesus Christ - of whom you were told 'died for your sins', which you will soon see makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Further on we will examine your belief structure to help this you absorb this step with greater ease. Once you have a more intelligent view on your religion you will be better able to extract yourself from it. " continue reading: [link to www.internetarchaeology.org] good work but can you write another one for people who burn embassies |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 23607102  Spain09/18/2012 09:37 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion is a parasitic, symbiotic collectivist illness in which the more the followers feel their beliefs are validated, the more new followers will join the cult and more followers with a conviction in their beliefs creates a bigger force to which the ultimate objective is to subjugate other contrasting cults with the intention of absorbing them or destroying them in the process. All of this is merely another hierarchical, pyramidal system in which a few elites utilize a bunch of mindless but useful idiots to acquire more power for themselves and what the useful idiots get as a payment for their efforts is to go through this mysterious existence with a sense that they do know the answers to all the unexplainable phenomena around them which in turn makes them feel more special than the next guy around. Picture religion as a cancer trying to metastasize in a virulent manner, the ultimate objective is to possess the entire body but in doing so the cancer kills the host and so does religion, as humanity dominated by nonsensical beliefs and acting as automatons who relinquish their will in order to grant it to an external entity becomes absolutely worthless of any good and surely would make all human progress stagnate for the rest of time, in effect killing humanity (as humanity without progress is a dead entity). All religions at their apex have turned hostile to other groups. When a religion becomes too large there comes to be an egregore composed of all the worst qualities of the mass which composes it and any leader who knows how to dominate the masses will easily control them for acquisition of power which is what most evil sociopaths in this world want above all. Thus religion, particularly of the Abrahamic branch, a bunch of fairy tales of mythological beings who strike people with magic rays, return from the dead or send millions to a lake of fire in some hellish other dimension in a prophetical future, is the most destructive force in this world, as proven by everyday events and the pages of history. But ultimately it's not religion to blame but the ignorance of the men who follow it. "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11677814  United States09/18/2012 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget...Christians like to send their children to war, there's something really sick about that and that should be included in these steps. Jesus said "Love Thine Enemy" so that we could avoid war. Most Christians will tell you it only applies in peacetime. |
| Ossie bloke User ID: 23993668 Australia09/18/2012 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion is a parasitic, symbiotic collectivist illness in which the more the followers feel their beliefs are validated, the more new followers will join the cult and more followers with a conviction in their beliefs creates a bigger force to which the ultimate objective is to subjugate other contrasting cults with the intention of absorbing them or destroying them in the process. All of this is merely another hierarchical, pyramidal system in which a few elites utilize a bunch of mindless but useful idiots to acquire more power for themselves and what the useful idiots get as a payment for their efforts is to go through this mysterious existence with a sense that they do know the answers to all the unexplainable phenomena around them which in turn makes them feel more special than the next guy around. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Picture religion as a cancer trying to metastasize in a virulent manner, the ultimate objective is to possess the entire body but in doing so the cancer kills the host and so does religion, as humanity dominated by nonsensical beliefs and acting as automatons who relinquish their will in order to grant it to an external entity becomes absolutely worthless of any good and surely would make all human progress stagnate for the rest of time, in effect killing humanity (as humanity without progress is a dead entity). All religions at their apex have turned hostile to other groups. When a religion becomes too large there comes to be an egregore composed of all the worst qualities of the mass which composes it and any leader who knows how to dominate the masses will easily control them for acquisition of power which is what most evil sociopaths in this world want above all. Thus religion, particularly of the Abrahamic branch, a bunch of fairy tales of mythological beings who strike people with magic rays, return from the dead or send millions to a lake of fire in some hellish other dimension in a prophetical future, is the most destructive force in this world, as proven by everyday events and the pages of history. But ultimately it's not religion to blame but the ignorance of the men who follow it. LOL, most of us Christians know this all too well. But you are not really helping any of us with your holier-than-thou attitude. |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 23607102 Spain09/18/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion is a parasitic, symbiotic collectivist illness in which the more the followers feel their beliefs are validated, the more new followers will join the cult and more followers with a conviction in their beliefs creates a bigger force to which the ultimate objective is to subjugate other contrasting cults with the intention of absorbing them or destroying them in the process. All of this is merely another hierarchical, pyramidal system in which a few elites utilize a bunch of mindless but useful idiots to acquire more power for themselves and what the useful idiots get as a payment for their efforts is to go through this mysterious existence with a sense that they do know the answers to all the unexplainable phenomena around them which in turn makes them feel more special than the next guy around. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Picture religion as a cancer trying to metastasize in a virulent manner, the ultimate objective is to possess the entire body but in doing so the cancer kills the host and so does religion, as humanity dominated by nonsensical beliefs and acting as automatons who relinquish their will in order to grant it to an external entity becomes absolutely worthless of any good and surely would make all human progress stagnate for the rest of time, in effect killing humanity (as humanity without progress is a dead entity). All religions at their apex have turned hostile to other groups. When a religion becomes too large there comes to be an egregore composed of all the worst qualities of the mass which composes it and any leader who knows how to dominate the masses will easily control them for acquisition of power which is what most evil sociopaths in this world want above all. Thus religion, particularly of the Abrahamic branch, a bunch of fairy tales of mythological beings who strike people with magic rays, return from the dead or send millions to a lake of fire in some hellish other dimension in a prophetical future, is the most destructive force in this world, as proven by everyday events and the pages of history. But ultimately it's not religion to blame but the ignorance of the men who follow it. LOL, most of us Christians know this all too well. But you are not really helping any of us with your holier-than-thou attitude. How is it holier than thou to be able to accept that one may never know all answers and that the best policy to carry out in this world is to try to help it progress, and if you find out you can't then at least not cause any harm? This is common sense not arrogance, but of course to a person attached to the feeling of egoic power derived from being a part of a large group which espouses a determinate belief in unison, any attack on their source of contentment has to be rationalized in some way as an evil act coming from someone with a defective character. It's not pedantic of me to simply point out the obvious. Last Edited by Manu-Koelbren on 09/18/2012 09:54 AM "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Ossie bloke User ID: 23993668 Australia09/18/2012 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is it holier than thou to be able to accept that one may never know all answers and that the best policy to carry out in this world is to try to help it progress, and if you find out you can't then at least not cause any harm? This is common sense not arrogance, but of course to a person attached to the feeling of egoic power derived from being a part of a large group which espouses a determinate belief in unison, any attack on their source of contentment has to be rationalized in some way as an evil act coming from someone with a defective character. It's not pedantic of me to simply point out the obvious. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Yeah, fair enough. But please try and understand that Christianity is not something we choose to believe in. It is forced upon us by a hidden directive embedded in every atom of creation.  |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 23607102 Spain09/18/2012 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is it holier than thou to be able to accept that one may never know all answers and that the best policy to carry out in this world is to try to help it progress, and if you find out you can't then at least not cause any harm? This is common sense not arrogance, but of course to a person attached to the feeling of egoic power derived from being a part of a large group which espouses a determinate belief in unison, any attack on their source of contentment has to be rationalized in some way as an evil act coming from someone with a defective character. It's not pedantic of me to simply point out the obvious. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Yeah, fair enough. But please try and understand that Christianity is not something we choose to believe in. It is forced upon us by a hidden directive embedded in every atom of creation. Oh if that were the case it would have flourished throughout all of Earth's civilizations, tribes and groups spontaneously and in unison espousing the same exact doctrines. As we all know that didn't happen. Christianity is a Semitic religions that developed in the ancient mideast taking from many other beliefs and teachings contemporary and more ancient and getting mixed up with a totally different set of teachings belonging to another totally distinct prior religion. The fact that all the atoms of your brain seem to favor Christianity doesn't mean its directives are embedded on all the atoms of the universe. Last Edited by Manu-Koelbren on 09/18/2012 10:10 AM "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Ossie bloke User ID: 23993668 Australia09/18/2012 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is it holier than thou to be able to accept that one may never know all answers and that the best policy to carry out in this world is to try to help it progress, and if you find out you can't then at least not cause any harm? This is common sense not arrogance, but of course to a person attached to the feeling of egoic power derived from being a part of a large group which espouses a determinate belief in unison, any attack on their source of contentment has to be rationalized in some way as an evil act coming from someone with a defective character. It's not pedantic of me to simply point out the obvious. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Yeah, fair enough. But please try and understand that Christianity is not something we choose to believe in. It is forced upon us by a hidden directive embedded in every atom of creation. Oh if that were the case it would flourished throughout all of Earth's civilizations, tribes and groups spontaneously and in unison espousing the same exact doctrines. As we all know that didn't happen. Christianity is a Semitic religions that developed in the ancient mideast taking from many other beliefs and teachings contemporary and more ancient and getting mixed up with a totally different set of teachings belonging to another totally distinct prior religion. The fact that all the atoms of your brain seem to favor Christianity doesn't mean its directives are embedded on all the atoms of the universe. I favor Christianity? WTF? I utterly loath and detest it for Christ's sake! You however are blissfully unaware of God's power over all of us. A bliss that I lost several years ago. |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 23607102 Spain09/18/2012 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is it holier than thou to be able to accept that one may never know all answers and that the best policy to carry out in this world is to try to help it progress, and if you find out you can't then at least not cause any harm? This is common sense not arrogance, but of course to a person attached to the feeling of egoic power derived from being a part of a large group which espouses a determinate belief in unison, any attack on their source of contentment has to be rationalized in some way as an evil act coming from someone with a defective character. It's not pedantic of me to simply point out the obvious. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Yeah, fair enough. But please try and understand that Christianity is not something we choose to believe in. It is forced upon us by a hidden directive embedded in every atom of creation. Oh if that were the case it would flourished throughout all of Earth's civilizations, tribes and groups spontaneously and in unison espousing the same exact doctrines. As we all know that didn't happen. Christianity is a Semitic religions that developed in the ancient mideast taking from many other beliefs and teachings contemporary and more ancient and getting mixed up with a totally different set of teachings belonging to another totally distinct prior religion. The fact that all the atoms of your brain seem to favor Christianity doesn't mean its directives are embedded on all the atoms of the universe. I favor Christianity? WTF? I utterly loath and detest it for Christ's sake! You however are blissfully unaware of God's power over all of us. A bliss that I lost several years ago. Well if you consider God the creator of all that exist and to be all that exists as a whole and if you believe that this creator's laws rule all that exists in the universe then of course one could only conclude that God's power is supreme over us, something which has not much to do with religion however. "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Ossie bloke User ID: 23993668 Australia09/18/2012 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if you consider God the creator of all that exist and to be all that exists as a whole and if you believe that this creator's laws rule all that exists in the universe then of course one could only conclude that God's power is supreme over us, something which has not much to do with religion however. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren I did believe God was the creator of all things, that was 20 minutes ago and a lot has happened since then. I no longer believe this to be true, I now carry a very different belief system with regards to creation and religion. Why the sudden and profound change you might ask? I suspect it has something to do with our father controlling me. |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 23607102 Spain09/18/2012 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if you consider God the creator of all that exist and to be all that exists as a whole and if you believe that this creator's laws rule all that exists in the universe then of course one could only conclude that God's power is supreme over us, something which has not much to do with religion however. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren I did believe God was the creator of all things, that was 20 minutes ago and a lot has happened since then. I no longer believe this to be true, I now carry a very different belief system with regards to creation and religion. Why the sudden and profound change you might ask? I suspect it has something to do with our father controlling me. There's nobody controlling you except your own mental deficiencies. "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24000671 India09/18/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if you consider God the creator of all that exist and to be all that exists as a whole and if you believe that this creator's laws rule all that exists in the universe then of course one could only conclude that God's power is supreme over us, something which has not much to do with religion however. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren I did believe God was the creator of all things, that was 20 minutes ago and a lot has happened since then. I no longer believe this to be true, I now carry a very different belief system with regards to creation and religion. Why the sudden and profound change you might ask? I suspect it has something to do with our father controlling me. There's nobody controlling you except your own mental deficiencies. this should be taught in schools |
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| Ossie bloke User ID: 23993668 Australia09/18/2012 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if you consider God the creator of all that exist and to be all that exists as a whole and if you believe that this creator's laws rule all that exists in the universe then of course one could only conclude that God's power is supreme over us, something which has not much to do with religion however. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren I did believe God was the creator of all things, that was 20 minutes ago and a lot has happened since then. I no longer believe this to be true, I now carry a very different belief system with regards to creation and religion. Why the sudden and profound change you might ask? I suspect it has something to do with our father controlling me. There's nobody controlling you except your own mental deficiencies. this should be taught in schools You both smell like closet Christians and as such you make me want to hurl.  Go preach your quasi-Christianity somewhere else. |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 23607102 Spain09/18/2012 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ossie bloke I did believe God was the creator of all things, that was 20 minutes ago and a lot has happened since then. I no longer believe this to be true, I now carry a very different belief system with regards to creation and religion. Why the sudden and profound change you might ask? I suspect it has something to do with our father controlling me. There's nobody controlling you except your own mental deficiencies. this should be taught in schools You both smell like closet Christians and as such you make me want to hurl. Go preach your quasi-Christianity somewhere else. You remind me of a batshit insane internet friend I have  "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
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