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Thread: Archetype Branching and Shattering Paradigms

It starts as an archetype and it branches, splitting into different myths, different foundational 'Truths', isolating itself from itself as concepts are crystalized...different laws, different ideas of what it likes...and dislikes. On and on...

We are all so bound by these concepts that have been handed down, that we bind those concepts into our reality. When we bind ourselves to concepts, over time, constructs are put into place to make those concepts a reality into our worldview. And when the concepts turned constructs take root, the favor of bondage is returned...over and over, building and building, strengthening the chains and burying them deeper and deeper, rooting them into further isolation...separating generations further from the original truth...the original archetype. Distortion manifests.

Maybe that is what freedom is all about. Open mindedness, Free Will, Faith in your own self. They allow us to cross the ravines set in place between the branches...between pathways. To have the courage and strength...and resolve to make it through the blind spots inherent in such shadows beneath the walls of the ravines. Faith in yourself to step off the path, and find new ones that others are traversing. Find others to explore with you...helping to leave the isolation behind.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


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Concepts are the initial thought forms...we build up certain concepts and begin putting them into relation to our lives. Some we throw out, and some we continue buidling upon, thinking and working out in our heads (and computers nowadays) how we can manifest the concepts into our reality...then, we actually begin manifesting our thoughts turned to concepts as we work out how and if they will be benificial to our physical lives. We begin building the concepts into our physical reality and the constructs are born.

We don't have to literally build the concepts into constructs like a building, but, like religions and philosophies and 'law systems', we build them through communication. When they reach a particular tipping threshold, the collective begins reacting these communicated concepts as if they are a reality, and the communicated concepts become constructs in our lives...we build entire governments and civilizations around the constructs.

Science, religion, philosophies, education, etc are the major constructs...they are the paradigms...or a collective cohesion and working order of multiple constructs.

That is why paradigm change is so difficult. We are embedded in all this...everywhere. And in order to break down a paradigm, many multiples of constructs must constantly be broken down. In order for that to happen, other thoughts must take root, forming the concepts...and with enough influence behind them, they form cracks in the existing paradigms. But, as you can see, it is a monumental task, as others who do not want paradigm transformation are repairing the damage to the existing paradigms with all their might.

So, you get revolutions of sorts, where the influence is great and strong. Punching cracks in the existing paradigms, quick, hard and constant...persistant.

Then the collapse happens, and the world shifts...
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Concepts are the initial thought forms...we build up certain concepts and begin putting them into relation to our lives. Some we throw out, and some we continue buidling upon, thinking and working out in our heads (and computers nowadays) how we can manifest the concepts into our reality...then, we actually begin manifesting our thoughts turned to concepts as we work out how and if they will be benificial to our physical lives. We begin building the concepts into our physical reality and the constructs are born.

We don't have to literally build the concepts into constructs like a building, but, like religions and philosophies and 'law systems', we build them through communication. When they reach a particular tipping threshold, the collective begins reacting these communicated concepts as if they are a reality, and the communicated concepts become constructs in our lives...we build entire governments and civilizations around the constructs.

Science, religion, philosophies, education, etc are the major constructs...they are the paradigms...or a collective cohesion and working order of multiple constructs.

That is why paradigm change is so difficult. We are embedded in all this...everywhere. And in order to break down a paradigm, many multiples of constructs must constantly be broken down. In order for that to happen, other thoughts must take root, forming the concepts...and with enough influence behind them, they form cracks in the existing paradigms. But, as you can see, it is a monumental task, as others who do not want paradigm transformation are repairing the damage to the existing paradigms with all their might.

So, you get revolutions of sorts, where the influence is great and strong. Punching cracks in the existing paradigms, quick, hard and constant...persistant.

Then the collapse happens, and the world shifts...
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


And sometimes co-opted constructs create variables that are looping and aspire to continually diminishing and constricted output.

At that point it's time for a scrub and reboot.
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Concepts are the initial thought forms...we build up certain concepts and begin putting them into relation to our lives. Some we throw out, and some we continue buidling upon, thinking and working out in our heads (and computers nowadays) how we can manifest the concepts into our reality...then, we actually begin manifesting our thoughts turned to concepts as we work out how and if they will be benificial to our physical lives. We begin building the concepts into our physical reality and the constructs are born.

We don't have to literally build the concepts into constructs like a building, but, like religions and philosophies and 'law systems', we build them through communication. When they reach a particular tipping threshold, the collective begins reacting these communicated concepts as if they are a reality, and the communicated concepts become constructs in our lives...we build entire governments and civilizations around the constructs.

Science, religion, philosophies, education, etc are the major constructs...they are the paradigms...or a collective cohesion and working order of multiple constructs.

That is why paradigm change is so difficult. We are embedded in all this...everywhere. And in order to break down a paradigm, many multiples of constructs must constantly be broken down. In order for that to happen, other thoughts must take root, forming the concepts...and with enough influence behind them, they form cracks in the existing paradigms. But, as you can see, it is a monumental task, as others who do not want paradigm transformation are repairing the damage to the existing paradigms with all their might.

So, you get revolutions of sorts, where the influence is great and strong. Punching cracks in the existing paradigms, quick, hard and constant...persistant.

Then the collapse happens, and the world shifts...
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


And sometimes co-opted constructs create variables that are looping and aspire to continually diminishing and constricted output.

At that point it's time for a scrub and reboot.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


As it is insane to do the same thing over and over (loop) expecting a different outcome.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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I see where you're going with this.

What would have to happen in this world in order for people to pay unbending attention to an idea/event/object that they cannot comprehend, yet cannot discard and forget about?
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Language.
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Hebrew already does this, Kabbalah (Mystic Judaism) already describes the real nature of God and Man...

How many in the west study Hebrew? Hardly anyone..

Hebrew has the multidimensional meanings that crack the puzzles to explain God.
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Thread: Archetype Branching and Shattering Paradigms

It starts as an archetype and it branches, splitting into different myths, different foundational 'Truths', isolating itself from itself as concepts are crystalized...different laws, different ideas of what it likes...and dislikes. On and on...

We are all so bound by these concepts that have been handed down, that we bind those concepts into our reality. When we bind ourselves to concepts, over time, constructs are put into place to make those concepts a reality into our worldview. And when the concepts turned constructs take root, the favor of bondage is returned...over and over, building and building, strengthening the chains and burying them deeper and deeper, rooting them into further isolation...separating generations further from the original truth...the original archetype. Distortion manifests.

Maybe that is what freedom is all about. Open mindedness, Free Will, Faith in your own self. They allow us to cross the ravines set in place between the branches...between pathways. To have the courage and strength...and resolve to make it through the blind spots inherent in such shadows beneath the walls of the ravines. Faith in yourself to step off the path, and find new ones that others are traversing. Find others to explore with you...helping to leave the isolation behind.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals




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I see where you're going with this.

What would have to happen in this world in order for people to pay unbending attention to an idea/event/object that they cannot comprehend, yet cannot discard and forget about?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002034


Hebrew already does this, Kabbalah (Mystic Judaism) already describes the real nature of God and Man...

How many in the west study Hebrew? Hardly anyone..

Hebrew has the multidimensional meanings that crack the puzzles to explain God.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Hebrew is a cultural construct based in the self involved manifestion and survival of said construct.

Symbols themselves speak in volumes relational to the awareness of said individual(Ever notice the symbology of Egyptian gods changes based on the perspective of the acolyte)?.

Symbols stand in spite of bias. They are forms with a function you become aware of rather than inculcated towards.

The schism in humanity has been caused by cultural hegemony above all things.
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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Language.... an undoing of what happened at the tower of Babel?
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Interesting...has any one else noticed the effects of these purely textual conversations happening on this forum...and how they don't seem to be so purely textual?

How about how these barely conscious beings walking around while texting. Running into things. Driving while texting. Running into things.

Yet...here we sit...only focused on how to properly construct our sentences to carry the weight of layers upon layers of ideas.

English is a fascinating language. Many different meanings to words...many different words with the same meanings.

Thus, sentence construction, phonetic rhythm, and the precise choosing of words carry more than just our ideas. They carry every possible interpretation of our ideas.

Just a rambling thought...much like the OP.
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I really like this. You have addressed alot with very little and it is very clear ... not sure I could come close to putting it so clear ... Well Done Much Love ! hfyoda
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Thread: Archetype Branching and Shattering Paradigms

It starts as an archetype and it branches, splitting into different myths, different foundational 'Truths', isolating itself from itself as concepts are crystalized...different laws, different ideas of what it likes...and dislikes. On and on...

We are all so bound by these concepts that have been handed down, that we bind those concepts into our reality. When we bind ourselves to concepts, over time, constructs are put into place to make those concepts a reality into our worldview. And when the concepts turned constructs take root, the favor of bondage is returned...over and over, building and building, strengthening the chains and burying them deeper and deeper, rooting them into further isolation...separating generations further from the original truth...the original archetype. Distortion manifests.

Maybe that is what freedom is all about. Open mindedness, Free Will, Faith in your own self. They allow us to cross the ravines set in place between the branches...between pathways. To have the courage and strength...and resolve to make it through the blind spots inherent in such shadows beneath the walls of the ravines. Faith in yourself to step off the path, and find new ones that others are traversing. Find others to explore with you...helping to leave the isolation behind.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


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Yeah, but we will be re-incarnating into a new upgraded container in order for all this to occur. I don't think we can get there from here? The problems are too immense and we have all been too traumatized, whether we know it or not. I am soooo! tired.

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Thread: The World is going through a massive DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL, but it may be ending soon.

The entire world, as a collective conscious, has been going through our own Dark Night of the Soul. St. John of the Cross describes this episode of the human condition in his writings of the same name.

The Dark Night of the Soul is when the soul goes through extreme hardship without the comfort of God or Jesus standing near, guiding the soul, giving the soul - and its constitute human body - faith in the spirit.

I am not of any denomination of religion, but I am very spiritual. So this is not about the various religious sects. This is about spirituality and nothing more.

During our possibly greatest need as a collectively intelligent, spiritual race of beings, we have been cut off from the Source. For those finding their way back, it has been a truly miraculous life now being lived. I know who you are... you are the ones experiencing the impossible. No one believes your experiences, because the only way to believe them is to experience them personally.

You are the torch bearer in the darkness. The spark of light in a massive Dark Night of the Soul. You found your way back to spirit through immense adversary... and your experiences, beyond the realm of the physical are, paradoxically, your grounding to this life's existence and purpose.

The changes are coming, because you are experiencing them happen in your own tabernacle. And the experiences are not relenting, but rather growing greater and more extreme. So take time out and imagine the ones not consciously experiencing the change. Have faith that they will have the strength to spiritually survive the coming end of this Dark Night. As you know, experiencing the impossible can easily shatter the mind... and you have taken steps in the process. They will be denied the progressive steps of learning that you have had.

Have faith. Humility. Personally you understand the difficulties soon to be faced. So rise above the tumult and reach down with a helping hand. The Dark Night of the Soul is ending, and you must be ready.
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Thread: The Coming Celestial Convergence
Here is my paper on what may be coming. Even the governments of the world are extremely worried about this possible event.

The Coming Celestial Convergence

[link to www.scribd.com]

“If the power is affected... it will be a long time down... most communications will be down far longer.”

“The solar system entering the interstellar cloud causing the slowing of the sun conveyor leading to increased CME activity initiating a sustained ion exchange flow to the planets via amplified flux transfer events.”

“A normal CME is a discharge of plasma... it travels through space and encounters the protective shield (magnetosphere) of earth and mostly deflects around the earth……Instead of just a discharge event, the exchange would become a continuous stream using themagnetized cloud as a conductive pathway, if this has merit then a continuous solar stream would be a lot different than a CME discharge…

…It would be a sustained plasma exchange.”

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Mind...is...blown...

Impacts of Severe Space Weather on the Electric Grid.

Study done by J.A.S.O.N. and dated 11/11

[link to www.fas.org]

Don't know who J.A.S.O.N. is?
The Jason Group is the elite of the scientific field.

Also, Google JASON and the Quest of the Order.

(thanks 0)
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Moving into harmony.
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Excellent avatar!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Excellent avatar!
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Just uploaded it. I like it too.
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Coming changes will not be a singular 'thing'. It will not be one over-riding ideology or formula that makes up the greater simplicity. It will be a scalar effect, that once understood can be placed in context to universal reality that will resonate across the compartmentalized ideals and will be accessed to cross pollinate, from the ground up, a new understanding of how the material functions. This comes about from the integration of understanding the non-material, understanding the material, and understanding the bridge between the two. At that understanding, philosophies/sciences/religions can begin to equate the divine presence in a realistic way within the material constructs that the new paradigms will reveal. Perception of the connected and scalar nature of reality will be made manifest within the human experience.

As we have discussed, a distillation of knowledge in respective fields will occur, and with that a reconciliation of dogma - no matter its association - will begin pervading consciousness. At that point, it will be sink or swim.

New understandings could succeed in doing all this, depending on how hard it is to tear down the walls of our presently existing outdated paradigms. We are seeing vast cracks within these massive walls, but the pressure must be consistent, and the cracks must be wedged and levered ever more.

We live in the most extraordinary of eras. The changes that are coming will not be small, isolated changes, but rather one's that are resounding and vast enough to permanently change the human condition. But, it is all extremely complex, and to see specific outcomes of what this entails is very difficult, if possible at all, especially if all the various motives stay in play until some grand convergence lays its massive form across all humans and our world as a collective.

Just rambling my thoughts here.
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You wrote a lot of words and said nothing at all.
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I have grown so much.

Thank you SoS wherever you are.

Sorry about the BK I gave you.

hf
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i'll read that later dead

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gary busey articulated my thoughts very eloquently.
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The entire world, as a collective conscious, has been going through our own Dark Night of the Soul. St. John of the Cross describes this episode of the human condition in his writings of the same name.

The Dark Night of the Soul is when the soul goes through extreme hardship without the comfort of God or Jesus standing near, guiding the soul, giving the soul - and its constitute human body - faith in the spirit.

I am not of any denomination of religion, but I am very spiritual. So this is not about the various religious sects. This is about spirituality and nothing more.

During our possibly greatest need as a collectively intelligent, spiritual race of beings, we have been cut off from the Source. For those finding their way back, it has been a truly miraculous life now being lived. I know who you are... you are the ones experiencing the impossible. No one believes your experiences, because the only way to believe them is to experience them personally.

You are the torch bearer in the darkness. The spark of light in a massive Dark Night of the Soul. You found your way back to spirit through immense adversary... and your experiences, beyond the realm of the physical are, paradoxically, your grounding to this life's existence and purpose.

The changes are coming, because you are experiencing them happen in your own tabernacle. And the experiences are not relenting, but rather growing greater and more extreme. So take time out and imagine the ones not consciously experiencing the change. Have faith that they will have the strength to spiritually survive the coming end of this Dark Night. As you know, experiencing the impossible can easily shatter the mind... and you have taken steps in the process. They will be denied the progressive steps of learning that you have had.

Have faith. Humility. Personally you understand the difficulties soon to be faced. So rise above the tumult and reach down with a helping hand. The Dark Night of the Soul is ending, and you must be ready.

 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


dense truth you managed to formulate so nicely :) good to re-read it again.
and it reminded me of a small text about this, that i found it after i had managed to reach the other side, and it was a comforting confirmation for the mind to accept more fully this soul reality:

"Seeing life from under the inside. Being in the void, the abyss. Staying right there and experiencing all this within the dark, through a heavy filter. Being given an entirely convincing and endlessly consuming passage through the darkest side of this existence.
Being able to discover the shadow ways to the utmost intensity and depth. Most gifted in ferreting out hidden motives, undercurrents of every conceivable kind. Hyper-intent upon staying with this perspective until it can be disproven.
A profound attachment to being lost, being caught, being punished, being put through the most extreme ordeals. A mountainous identification with a level of awareness which is tightly binding and will not let us go.
Hidden strings. Hard-to-get-at underpinnings. The intricate, fascinating and deadly absorption in the underworld. What will it take to lift the curse, to peel away the enchantment, to make the light dawn genuinely?
It will take brutal honesty and a bizarre willingness to stay with our own sensations and impressions even if we cannot justify or prove anything other than that we stayed with it. This is the only thing we know here. If we are going to get out, we cannot bargain, cheat, fake it. We come crawling out on our knees, bloody and self-recovered.
Yet it must be admitted that to endure this passage and emerge free and clear will take a miracle. The soul under those layers does not believe in miracles. The crawling distance may be to find just enough inward sanctuary to pray and seek that which is doubted, feared, avoided.
It does take divine intervention. This does involve a radical purging of an old self that does a lot of damage. This is going out there the hard way and not coming in until the issue is decided, or something else altogether."
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it touches somehow with the subject:

In spirit Humanity, refers to a collective being/spirit which has its substance divided throughout individual human forms.
In form humanity, refers to the totality of individual human forms.

The evolution of Humanity refers to the evolution of that collective being.

Each individual human form contains a mixture of different substances, some of them sub-human (e.g. Animal), some human proper, some supra-human. The degrees of these substances varies from individual to individual. And for each specific case there is a ‘geometrical center’, which can be located in the sub-human zone, human proper zone, or supra-human zone.

This is the only way one could explain the fact that there are human forms which elicit behaviors which are greatly inhumane (e.g. Beasts in human form).

The current stage of evolution for Humanity as a collective being had to do with the upgrade of the mental level. This is of course achieved at form level through the evolution of certain individuals.

Beside the evolution at the collective level, humanity in form was also an opportunity offered to monads who finished the evolution in the animal kingdom to make progress in the human kingdom.

This happens according to the law of compassion, in which more advanced monads join for a time similar forms with less advanced ones. Obviously while for the less advanced monads (i.e. Animals) this is a great opportunity of progress, for the more advanced monads (i.e. Humans proper, fallen angels etc) is more like a (karmic) duty which has to be fulfilled.

The age ends when Humanity as a collective being completes the current evolutionary level, and further evolution is impossible in the old forms. In our specific case, the mental functioning of the brain is already maximally developed, and the next stage has to commence, which is usually termed spiritual knowledge or straight knowledge.

This calls for a refresh in terms of individual forms, for the majority of human forms are not capable of overcoming the mental barrier. To use a metaphor, when a year ends and a new one is beginning, the Tree sheds its leaves, and only the Root and the Big Branches survive over the winter, only for a new round of leaves to appear the next spring.

All substance of Humanity concentrates in the Root, and it is emanated again in the next stage.

Not all individual monads who had the opportunity to evolve in human form gathered enough experience to pass the threshold to the next level, to center at the human proper level. (i.e. The concept of the last judgement).

Probably what will happen and is already in process is a transition to the etheric layer of reality. The veil between physical and etheric is thinning and some individuals will make the transition to being fully conscious at etheric level, while others will remain stuck at the physical level.

How this will exactly unfold is not so important. Whether it will involve a sudden trigger which will move the ascending mass into the etheric realm, or whether it will be a more gradual process where each will have to come to terms to Humanity, and depending on this he will have access to the etheric realm, remains to be seen.


....

life permeates everything. the force of universal love works at the same level, and raises the vibratory frequency of all matter.
but from this perspective when a certain human dies, the atoms that compose his body do not die they just continue their journey.
so when this event happens, and all atoms raise their vibratory frequency (which there are enough indications in terms of perception of many individuals that is happening now) it still aplies whether a specific consciousness/spiritual monad/fiery atom (which is much more evolved on the ladder of consciousness than physical atoms) is evolved enough to keep the cohesion of the physical atoms gathered around it (which acts as a magnetic/quantic vortex) so to continue without 'death; in an 'ascended body', or whether the universe formed from the physical atoms which form one's body is dispersed ('death') and another body template will form around that spiritual atom.

of course from this perspective, it does not really matter. and it still aplies whether some spiritual atoms have evolved enough so as to coat themselves in a 'new human body' or whether they will only manage to form 'new animal bodies'.

when i use the terms 'human', 'animal' i use them in a functional sense to refer to certain levels of evolution of spiritual atoms. the spiritual atom around which your body/soul complex was formed was emanated from the source at the beginning of this day of brahma (big bang event) and went through all stages of evolution (i.e. mineral, vegetal, animal, human).

animal-humans that we are is considered to be the fourth kingdom, and pure Humans are considered to be the fifth kingdom (the new jerusalem, heaven etc). The fifth kingdom is not manifested at this point in a transparent manner in respect to the fourth kingdom (human-animals). There is talk of angels and their abodes, but this is not a transparent manifestation that is self-evident to the human-animals.

human-animals are still as a species not conscious in a manifest manner of upper kingdoms. and one possibility is that the fifth kingdom will become manifest toward fourth kingdom beings.

the talk about incarnated angels, indigo and crystalline children refers to the fact that in this period of 'ascension' many spiritual monads/souls already part of higher kingdoms/evolutionary levels coated themselves in human bodies in order to help with the process of 'ascension' from ground level.

on the other hand there are also a lot of souls who are part of the fourth kingdom and they strive to evolve upwards.

the tristinction between spirit/soul/matter can be made in terms of life aspect/consciousness aspect/form aspect.

the life aspect (spirit) pervades all creation and manifests the Will aspect of the source.
the point of the consciousness aspect/soul which is a manifestation of the Love/Wisdom aspect of the source (son aspect) is to harmonize the spirit aspect with the matter aspect. Through consciousness/soul universe becomes conscious of itself.
And in a human being which is combination of high vibratory substance (the spiritual monad) and relatively lower vibratory substance (the physical atoms/molecules etc), soul/consciousness is an intermediate substance which has the task of achieving harmony (loving union) between spirit and matter.
If this process is completed the effect is illumination by the light of spirit of the darkness of matter, through the medium of the soul.

when one is still caught in the illusion of duality, good/evil etc (which goes from physical through astral plane until the mental plane), then one still did not achieve liberation, meaning that the soul did not achieve yet the harmony between spirit and matter - if the soul/consciousness over identifies with good it means it still sides with spirit against matter, and if it over identifies with evil, it sides with matter against spirit. both options show a lack of the love/wisdom principle.
the point of light is to go into the darkness and illuminate it, and the point of darkness is to create the possibility of light to manifest. 'goodness' that try do distance and separate itself from 'evil' is just egoism and denial from a spiritual perspective. to fulfill one's soul mission means to give your best in making other fellow beings conscious of their lack of balance and to help them achieve it and be at peace in the Universal Heart :)
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Re: Convergence to Greater Simplicity
Here's some context for you all.

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In 1970, sociologist and futurist Alvin Toffler, the Ray Kurzweil of his day, wrote a book entitled Future Shock, which proposed a certain distressing psychological state , induced by change so rapid the human mind can’t digest it, and introduced the notion of “information overload” for the first time. In 1972, the book, already a bestseller, was adapted into a little-known documentary of the same name, narrated by Orson Welles. Exploring the shift from industrial society to what Toffler calls “super-industrial society,” the film tackles notions of consumerism and information overload [...]
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The first task of awakening the world is awakening the self within. The inner must transform the outer lest all be lost. This begins with walking the narrow path of transformation when Man chooses to know who and what he is. In this he becomes aware of the greater consciousness to which he is a part and in this awareness does he begin to understand his eternal self. Each individually called by the level of degree of desire, to know the essence of their being. All that was done must be undone, a painful stripping of all man perceived himself to be. Few are those willing to be stripped of all self identity becoming as nothing. In this nothingness is man naked and bare floating in the greater consciousness to which he is a part and in this space does he fully awaken from the dream of forgetfulness.

This is the way, no matter the degree of magnitude of the soul. Though the way is hardest on the most magnificent of beings, for truly their identity is of great wealth and thus great is the loss on the way to nothingness.

Enlightenment comes from many a diverse path to the way but all who tread the way share the truth, regardless of the path of ascent. Because of this truth all enlighten beings worry not about the paths to the way. There is no need to destroy or protect for in truth all are one.

The mere presence of the enlightened causes the trees to grow greener, the streams to run clearer, and the sun to shine brighter. Their presence alone can cause the awakening of another sleeping soul. And so it is in an amazing twist of fate, the one who gave up all uniqueness to become nothingness becomes the rarest of jewels and a gift to all humanity.

Thus the journey begins within and ends without, the outer a reflection of the inner. Be the Change!!!





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