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Arctic sea ice melt 'may bring harsh winter to Europe'

 
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The unprecedented loss of polar sea ice may lead to ‘wild extremes’ in the UK and northern Europe. This heat and water vapour will affect the all-important jet stream – the west-to-east winds that are the boundary between cold Arctic and the warm mid-latitudes. Others researchers have already shown that the jet stream has been shifting northwards in recent years. Dr. Francis and colleagues have recently documented that the jet stream is also slowing down.
“The jet stream is clearly weaker,” said Francis. That means weather systems, be it rain or dry conditions, are slow to move on and last longer. Ultimately this can result in “blocking” events. These changes are happening much earlier than scientists thought. As the sea ice continues to decline, the jet stream will likely continue to slow more, and shift further north “bringing wild temperature swings and greater numbers of extreme events” in the future he said. “We’re in uncharted territory.”


[link to climatetoday.org]
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09/18/2012 12:01 PM
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we can cope,no problem.
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Crap, better stock up good.

...and buy a snowmobile/quad/a reindeer and/or some huskies.

hiding
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ahhh

whatever
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Uh... how can warming can cause harsh cold winters?

Logic?
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Arctic Ice Melt Could Mean More Extreme Winters For U.S. And Europe


The “astounding” loss of sea ice this year is adding a huge amount of heat to the Arctic Ocean and the atmosphere

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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So does that mean I've moved to Florida without even packing ?[live in ny]
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NASA Jet Stream Study

[link to www.nasa.gov]

"This area shows winds much larger than expected," says Miguel Larsen, a space scientist at Clemson University who is the principal investigator for these five rockets, known as the Anomalous Transport Rocket Experiment (ATREX). "We don't yet know what we're going to see, but there is definitely something unusual going on. ATREX will help us understand the big question about what is driving these fast winds."
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Uh... how can warming can cause harsh cold winters?

Logic?
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You better study the subject, then ask for logic!

On-going research is looking at the possibility that the reduced sea ice leads to more snow fall in Siberia, which induces a high pressure blocking circulation which brings cold air to Europe and warmer air over the higher arctic.

[link to www.beac.st]

The weather pattern responsible for bringing the frigid air to Europe and Eurasia, and locking it in place, is being driven in part by a naturally-occurring pattern of climate variability known as the Arctic Oscillation. The Arctic Oscillation, or AO, is is a climate index that describes the characteristics of the atmospheric circulation over the Arctic, and a related index describes the circulation over the North Atlantic. Depending on whether it's in a "positive" or "negative" phase, the Arctic Oscillation can bring warmer or cooler than average wintertime conditions to the U.S. and Europe.

Right now the Arctic Oscillation is in a negative phase, which tends to favor colder than average weather in Europe and the U.S. Scientists don't fully understand what causes the Arctic Oscillation to switch from one phase to the other, which limits their ability to forecast these changes ahead of time beyond a week in advance.

[link to www.climatecentral.org]
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amazing
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we can cope,no problem.
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Yep, they are saying it could potentially be almost as bad as ..... wait for it ......... 2007 again !violin
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The unprecedented loss of polar sea ice may lead to ‘wild extremes’ in the UK and northern Europe. This heat and water vapour will affect the all-important jet stream – the west-to-east winds that are the boundary between cold Arctic and the warm mid-latitudes. Others researchers have already shown that the jet stream has been shifting northwards in recent years. Dr. Francis and colleagues have recently documented that the jet stream is also slowing down.
“The jet stream is clearly weaker,” said Francis. That means weather systems, be it rain or dry conditions, are slow to move on and last longer. Ultimately this can result in “blocking” events. These changes are happening much earlier than scientists thought. As the sea ice continues to decline, the jet stream will likely continue to slow more, and shift further north “bringing wild temperature swings and greater numbers of extreme events” in the future he said. “We’re in uncharted territory.”


[link to climatetoday.org]
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and monkeys and unicorns 'MAY' fly out of your a$$
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09/18/2012 01:20 PM
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My animals are going crazy in feed demand.
Harsh winter (anyway if stuff melts or not) ahead.
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Uh... how can warming can cause harsh cold winters?

Logic?
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putin
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Oh man and i can't imagine the electric bill over here.
damn it this winter's going to suck verycold
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Harsh winters were caused by solar lows, like that crazy frost all over Europe during the 2010-11 winter. I don't think next winter will be harsh as the Sun is going through a historical spike of activity.

Last winter was comparably very warm and dry in North America.
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say goodbye to Britain n Scandinavia

hf

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The unprecedented loss of polar sea ice may lead to ‘wild extremes’ in the UK and northern Europe. This heat and water vapour will affect the all-important jet stream – the west-to-east winds that are the boundary between cold Arctic and the warm mid-latitudes. Others researchers have already shown that the jet stream has been shifting northwards in recent years. Dr. Francis and colleagues have recently documented that the jet stream is also slowing down.
“The jet stream is clearly weaker,” said Francis. That means weather systems, be it rain or dry conditions, are slow to move on and last longer. Ultimately this can result in “blocking” events. These changes are happening much earlier than scientists thought. As the sea ice continues to decline, the jet stream will likely continue to slow more, and shift further north “bringing wild temperature swings and greater numbers of extreme events” in the future he said. “We’re in uncharted territory.”


[link to climatetoday.org]
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Bullshit33 putin Not this shit again. It came from Guardian, a leftwing propaganda...
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Re: Arctic sea ice melt 'may bring harsh winter to Europe'
The unprecedented loss of polar sea ice may lead to ‘wild extremes’ in the UK and northern Europe. This heat and water vapour will affect the all-important jet stream – the west-to-east winds that are the boundary between cold Arctic and the warm mid-latitudes. Others researchers have already shown that the jet stream has been shifting northwards in recent years. Dr. Francis and colleagues have recently documented that the jet stream is also slowing down.
“The jet stream is clearly weaker,” said Francis. That means weather systems, be it rain or dry conditions, are slow to move on and last longer. Ultimately this can result in “blocking” events. These changes are happening much earlier than scientists thought. As the sea ice continues to decline, the jet stream will likely continue to slow more, and shift further north “bringing wild temperature swings and greater numbers of extreme events” in the future he said. “We’re in uncharted territory.”


[link to climatetoday.org]
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we can cope,no problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24007176


No problem at all
Bernanke will fly with helicopter Ben over arctic sea and drop some extra q3 ice version
Fixed
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The unprecedented loss of polar sea ice may lead to ‘wild extremes’ in the UK and northern Europe. This heat and water vapour will affect the all-important jet stream – the west-to-east winds that are the boundary between cold Arctic and the warm mid-latitudes. Others researchers have already shown that the jet stream has been shifting northwards in recent years. Dr. Francis and colleagues have recently documented that the jet stream is also slowing down.
“The jet stream is clearly weaker,” said Francis. That means weather systems, be it rain or dry conditions, are slow to move on and last longer. Ultimately this can result in “blocking” events. These changes are happening much earlier than scientists thought. As the sea ice continues to decline, the jet stream will likely continue to slow more, and shift further north “bringing wild temperature swings and greater numbers of extreme events” in the future he said. “We’re in uncharted territory.”


[link to climatetoday.org]
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yeah riiiggghhhttt.....
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we can cope,no problem.
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Yep, they are saying it could potentially be almost as bad as ..... wait for it ......... 2007 again !violin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620


best smiley ever LOL

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09/18/2012 03:00 PM
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Re: Arctic sea ice melt 'may bring harsh winter to Europe'
Did you know that extreame cold can destory parts of the ozone layer. The biggest ozone holes are always over the North and South poles. The heating going on will help replenish the ozone layer.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Check out the image to the right at the above link, see how big the hole is?

If anything the heating up of the poles is what's needed.
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The unprecedented loss of polar sea ice may lead to ‘wild extremes’ in the UK and northern Europe. This heat and water vapour will affect the all-important jet stream – the west-to-east winds that are the boundary between cold Arctic and the warm mid-latitudes. Others researchers have already shown that the jet stream has been shifting northwards in recent years. Dr. Francis and colleagues have recently documented that the jet stream is also slowing down.
“The jet stream is clearly weaker,” said Francis. That means weather systems, be it rain or dry conditions, are slow to move on and last longer. Ultimately this can result in “blocking” events. These changes are happening much earlier than scientists thought. As the sea ice continues to decline, the jet stream will likely continue to slow more, and shift further north “bringing wild temperature swings and greater numbers of extreme events” in the future he said. “We’re in uncharted territory.”


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Posted here on Sept 13.
Thread: Artic Sea Ice Melt Could mean Extreme Winter for U.S. & Europe 2012-2013 Season
Life's a journey not a destination,how high can you fly with broken wings
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hardly unprecedented
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Nice, let's hope the Elfstedentocht will go on this winter. Been already 25 years.
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Under this
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Wow, wish i was living in norway...
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The unprecedented loss of polar sea ice may lead to ‘wild extremes’ in the UK and northern Europe.
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so this could mean really warm winter also? God i hate snow & cold.
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The unprecedented loss of polar sea ice may lead to ‘wild extremes’ in the UK and northern Europe.
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so this could mean really warm winter also? God i hate snow & cold.
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Yes they have to cover all outcomes so they can say they were correct.
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Uh... how can warming can cause harsh cold winters?

Logic?
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Very logic. Ice melts, so snow is gone. Snow functions like a blanket to keep the ice (or water) from cooling down air. As ice is gone, so is the snow, thus...

Installing my fire place this weekend, bring on the winter!
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well as the jet stream has bee that far south this summer. i cant wait for it to move north!!!

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