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WTF??? Obama EPA About To Mandate 4-Gallon MINIMUM Gasoline Purchase

 
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This is just a preview from what Empty Chair Obama plans on doing to the American public in his second term. How can the public support this pathetic excuse for a president?

FROM THE HILL:
The latest mandate handed down from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is so ridiculous, even I was shocked. The EPA has now mandated how much gasoline you must buy at certain gas stations. Say hello to the Obama Administration’s four gallon minimum.

This unprecedented EPA overreach applies when filling up at a gas station that provides both E15 and E10, gasoline with 15 or 10 percent of ethanol, respectively, from the same hose.

At the insistence of the ethanol industry, the Obama Administration is pushing E15 into the marketplace, regardless of the serious concerns about the fuel’s impact on drivers. From its inception, E15 is a study in the consequences of government interference in the marketplace. The EPA’s decision to set a minimum purchase requirement is just the most recent example.

If this seems too far-fetched to be true, here is what the EPA recently wrote in a letter to the American Motorcyclist Association:

"EPA requires that retail stations that own or operate blender pumps either dispense E15 from a dedicated hose and nozzle if able or, in the case of E15 and E10 being dispensed from the same hose, require that at least four gallons of fuel be purchased to prevent vehicles and engines with smaller fuel tanks from being exposed to gasoline-ethanol blended fuels containing greater than 10 volume percent ethanol."

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another BS reg from the greenies..
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Ethanol will be the death of our country. It kills engines. It cost more to produce that its worth. If there weren't subsidies nobody would produce ethanol and finally......

Why the fuck are we using our agricultural production capabilities to produce fuel for vehicles when a two year drought has been gripping our heartland resulting in higher food prices and shortage of grains to feed our livestock?

This ethanol experiment must end!
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This is just a preview from what Empty Chair Obama plans on doing to the American public in his second term. How can the public support this pathetic excuse for a president?

FROM THE HILL:
The latest mandate handed down from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is so ridiculous, even I was shocked. The EPA has now mandated how much gasoline you must buy at certain gas stations. Say hello to the Obama Administration’s four gallon minimum.

This unprecedented EPA overreach applies when filling up at a gas station that provides both E15 and E10, gasoline with 15 or 10 percent of ethanol, respectively, from the same hose.

At the insistence of the ethanol industry, the Obama Administration is pushing E15 into the marketplace, regardless of the serious concerns about the fuel’s impact on drivers. From its inception, E15 is a study in the consequences of government interference in the marketplace. The EPA’s decision to set a minimum purchase requirement is just the most recent example.

If this seems too far-fetched to be true, here is what the EPA recently wrote in a letter to the American Motorcyclist Association:

"EPA requires that retail stations that own or operate blender pumps either dispense E15 from a dedicated hose and nozzle if able or, in the case of E15 and E10 being dispensed from the same hose, require that at least four gallons of fuel be purchased to prevent vehicles and engines with smaller fuel tanks from being exposed to gasoline-ethanol blended fuels containing greater than 10 volume percent ethanol."

[link to thehill.com]
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what if I drive a diesel?
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this arrogant fuck is out of control! i do not know a single person voting for him. not even friends and family who are democrats and voted for him before - they are adamantly opposed to him now. the media is lying their ass off (no surprise) about how "close" the polls are.
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THIS X 1000!
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Surprised? No. He forced Obamacare down our throats. Why would he hesitate to force us to buy something else?
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That's not gonna play well with his base. I see Obama voters, all the time, put $3 in their tanks.

What if someone really needs to get somewhere and doesn't have $15? Is he just stuck?
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This is because they intend to jack up the price!
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Someone needs to build another golf course with quick sand pits and tar pits.

That MF will eventually play a round on it.
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Grow a brain - EPA and cut out the crap! My vehicle prohibits using more then 10% ethanol and that is what it states.

Throw these people out of a job and end their jobs in the USA.

Throw them out!
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this arrogant fuck is out of control! i do not know a single person voting for him. not even friends and family who are democrats and voted for him before - they are adamantly opposed to him now. the media is lying their ass off (no surprise) about how "close" the polls are.
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There is going to be a very small turnout for election. I think most people can't bring themselves to vote for either one.
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That's not gonna play well with his base. I see Obama voters, all the time, put $3 in their tanks.

What if someone really needs to get somewhere and doesn't have $15? Is he just stuck?
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What do people do with the small gas can for their lawn mowers?
 Quoting: anonimalle


Beats me. I guess, if you want to fill up your motorcycle or lawn mower, you better bring a 5 gallon can with you, and just refuel at home.

I'm really leaning more toward just ignoring this law, though. Fuck 'em. My guy at the Marathon station in town will take care of me.

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Good now, some ass putting 5$ in wont cut me off to put in his measly 5 in the tank.
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Ethanol will be the death of our country. It kills engines. It cost more to produce that its worth. If there weren't subsidies nobody would produce ethanol and finally......

Why the fuck are we using our agricultural production capabilities to produce fuel for vehicles when a two year drought has been gripping our heartland resulting in higher food prices and shortage of grains to feed our livestock?

This ethanol experiment must end!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9287486


Ethanol is the fuel of the future. Ethanol is not bad for engines but the problem with Ethanol is it absorbs water fairly easily. Hints why boats have problems with running it. You wont have this problem with vehicles. Ethanol burns cool which keeps engine cooler and being that it has a high flash point. However, using corn to produce ethanol will destroy our country. It costs way too much and takes way to long to produce the corn. Algae is by far the best and cheapest way to produce ethanol.
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My motorcycles both hold less than 3.5 gallons, what will I do with the other half a gallon?
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Just spray the rest on the ground :-)
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Gas station owners would be wise to put in a dedicated pump. When I was young making minimum wage sometime I just put in enough to get to work and back right before payday and that was when gas was 63 cents a gallon (but I only made $3.15 hr). I'm sure there were times a put a buck 25 in my tank-lol.

With the economy tanking it may not be just young adults doing this in the future.
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ha ha ha.......
hey seeing how you got drones now spying on our underwear drawers, will we still be able to wear boxers, or must we suffer briefs ? and is their a mandate on color/logos ?

you people do not have to worry about your careers, after your done destroying the greatest nation ever, you can always get a job at the circus you clowns
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My motorcycles both hold less than 3.5 gallons, what will I do with the other half a gallon?
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lol ride it with a gas can there and back? or take them both at once superman
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My motorcycles both hold less than 3.5 gallons, what will I do with the other half a gallon?
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Just spray the rest on the ground :-)
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Better yet, just keep your engine-destroying garbage, and your organ-destroying GMO poison, you fucking ANTI-AMERICAN COMMUNIST DOUCHE-BAG!!!
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And whatever E15 does to engines, using corn to make fuel in the middle of a drought with high corn prices is leading to starvation wherever we export our corn, GMO though it might be.
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this arrogant fuck is out of control! i do not know a single person voting for him. not even friends and family who are democrats and voted for him before - they are adamantly opposed to him now. the media is lying their ass off (no surprise) about how "close" the polls are.
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they have to lie, because the election is fixed
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What about the "poor minorities?" they might not be able afford 4 gallons! That's racist!!
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this arrogant fuck is out of control! i do not know a single person voting for him. not even friends and family who are democrats and voted for him before - they are adamantly opposed to him now. the media is lying their ass off (no surprise) about how "close" the polls are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24029067




There is going to be a very small turnout for election. I think most people can't bring themselves to vote for either one.
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Those who DO turn out will come in masses, and like it ALWAYS is their masses end up in orgies and smoke out sessions. Scare away all the honest voters......pathetic.
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this arrogant fuck is out of control! i do not know a single person voting for him. not even friends and family who are democrats and voted for him before - they are adamantly opposed to him now. the media is lying their ass off (no surprise) about how "close" the polls are.
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There is going to be a very small turnout for election. I think most people can't bring themselves to vote for either one.
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I disagree...
People are CHOMPING AT THE BIT to vote this moron out.

Both 2010, and most especially Wisconsin showed us that.
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Ethanol will be the death of our country. It kills engines. It cost more to produce that its worth. If there weren't subsidies nobody would produce ethanol and finally......

Why the fuck are we using our agricultural production capabilities to produce fuel for vehicles when a two year drought has been gripping our heartland resulting in higher food prices and shortage of grains to feed our livestock?

This ethanol experiment must end!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9287486


this arrogant fuck is out of control! i do not know a single person voting for him. not even friends and family who are democrats and voted for him before - they are adamantly opposed to him now. the media is lying their ass off (no surprise) about how "close" the polls are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24029067


THIS X 1000!
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this arrogant fuck is out of control! i do not know a single person voting for him. not even friends and family who are democrats and voted for him before - they are adamantly opposed to him now. the media is lying their ass off (no surprise) about how "close" the polls are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24029067




There is going to be a very small turnout for election. I think most people can't bring themselves to vote for either one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24004539


Better yet, just keep your engine-destroying garbage, and your organ-destroying GMO poison, you fucking ANTI-AMERICAN COMMUNIST DOUCHE-BAG!!!
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Ethanol will be the death of our country. It kills engines. It cost more to produce that its worth. If there weren't subsidies nobody would produce ethanol and finally......

Why the fuck are we using our agricultural production capabilities to produce fuel for vehicles when a two year drought has been gripping our heartland resulting in higher food prices and shortage of grains to feed our livestock?

This ethanol experiment must end!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9287486


Ethanol is the fuel of the future. Ethanol is not bad for engines but the problem with Ethanol is it absorbs water fairly easily. Hints why boats have problems with running it. You wont have this problem with vehicles. Ethanol burns cool which keeps engine cooler and being that it has a high flash point. However, using corn to produce ethanol will destroy our country. It costs way too much and takes way to long to produce the corn. Algae is by far the best and cheapest way to produce ethanol.
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That's not why boats have problems. All engines with carburetors have problems. If autos are not fuel-injected, they will, too.
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For the people jumping up and down angry, realize please that this 4 gallon minimum only applies to pumps that can change from 10% to 15% ethanol and back. They are not mandating 85% ethanol and won't be any time soon. I do not know why gas stations would even buy these pumps.

Bottom line - there is no 4 gallon minimum gas purchase right now or in the near future.
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Ethanol will be the death of our country. It kills engines. It cost more to produce that its worth. If there weren't subsidies nobody would produce ethanol and finally......

Why the fuck are we using our agricultural production capabilities to produce fuel for vehicles when a two year drought has been gripping our heartland resulting in higher food prices and shortage of grains to feed our livestock?

This ethanol experiment must end!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9287486


Ethanol is the fuel of the future. Ethanol is not bad for engines but the problem with Ethanol is it absorbs water fairly easily. Hints why boats have problems with running it. You wont have this problem with vehicles. Ethanol burns cool which keeps engine cooler and being that it has a high flash point. However, using corn to produce ethanol will destroy our country. It costs way too much and takes way to long to produce the corn. Algae is by far the best and cheapest way to produce ethanol.
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It only burns cooler cause the extra fuel being used can carry more heat away.

The engine temp rises as the CAR isn't programmed for ethanol and DOESN'T pump the extra fuel needed to maintain stoichiometric burn. Thus the engine runs MUCH hotter when at 50-100% load.

Runs hotter when you NEED the cooling effect but doesn't.

It only runs cooler at idle and low load when heat isn't an issue. This is one of the destructive parts to this sinister ethanol conspiracy.

The car runs hotter under load and runs cooler at idle/low load. Meaning the parts expand and contract more resulting in gaskets failing and parts warping sooner, easier.



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Ethanol will be the death of our country. It kills engines. It cost more to produce that its worth. If there weren't subsidies nobody would produce ethanol and finally......

Why the fuck are we using our agricultural production capabilities to produce fuel for vehicles when a two year drought has been gripping our heartland resulting in higher food prices and shortage of grains to feed our livestock?

This ethanol experiment must end!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9287486


Ethanol is the fuel of the future. Ethanol is not bad for engines but the problem with Ethanol is it absorbs water fairly easily. Hints why boats have problems with running it. You wont have this problem with vehicles. Ethanol burns cool which keeps engine cooler and being that it has a high flash point. However, using corn to produce ethanol will destroy our country. It costs way too much and takes way to long to produce the corn. Algae is by far the best and cheapest way to produce ethanol.
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That's not why boats have problems. All engines with carburetors have problems. If autos are not fuel-injected, they will, too.
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The fuel is not the problem. All you have to do on a carbureted engine is replace with larger jets. Same goes for EFI engines you have go go with bigger injectors which most new cars come with anyway.
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