WTF??? Obama EPA About To Mandate 4-Gallon MINIMUM Gasoline Purchase

Its obvious you know nothing about engines. An engine doesn't run cooler on ethanol because the extra fuel cools the engine. That's just retarded. It has all to do with the flash point. For example, look at top fuel dragsters they run nitro methane which has a really high flash point. They don't run radiators because the engine doesn't get that hot.

When you see NBC polls with +Dem bias as high as +13, or +16 points, YOU KNOW THEY ARE DESPERATE AND PANICKED...

Remember Wisconisn?

The stupid fuckers who try to mandate this sort of thing never consider the logistics of actually enforcing the new law.

1.Do they want to modify all the gas pumps to at least charge you for 4 gallons whether you have a place to put it or not? This would be a cumbersome and expensive project to say the least. It could also be dangerous with people spilling it on the ground or trying to put the rest that won't go in the car in some empty 40 oz. malt liquor bottles.

2. Or do they expect the gas station owner to somehow police how much is dipensed?

"Hey you on pump #2, you didn't get at least 4 gallons, I'm calling the cops."

Fortunately I live near a gas station that still sells
pure gasoline.
I took off all my emissions controls, and cored out
the catalytic converter, and burn all my trash with
used motor oil.
I found some old cans of R12 freon, and used them for
target practice.

Fight back! Shove it up the EPA's ass.

Dump it on the ground.

TELL THAT TO MY 2.1 GALLON GAS TANK!


These are the same asshats that mandated these new gas cans that spill more gas then you get in your lawnmower everytime you refuel in the name of stopping evaporation.

Can you not read? The idea is to save your engine from accidentally putting an alcohol mix gas into your car. This only applies to pumps that use one hose to dispense both types of fuel. Four gallons run through the hose would dilute any leftover alcohol blends in the line. This place gets dumber by the day.

This mandate only applies to certain gas pumps which can switch between 10 and 15 percent ethanol. The minimum is 4 gallons so if someone pumped 15 percent before you, that you'd actually get 10 percent if that's what you wanted because there's about 1/3rd of a gallon of gas left in the hose. If you only got a gallon of 10%, it would wind up being like 12% and destroy any engine that couldn't take more than 10%.

Read the damn article before you start acting like a lunatic.

The only solution is nullification by the states and telling the feds to go f-ck themselves other than open rebellion bloody in the streets.


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So how do you fill up your motorcycle gas tank that only takes 3.5 gallons, when the local gas station uses a pump with one hose to dispense both types of fuel?

how many liters is 4 gallon?

Would you rather accidentally put a high alcohol mix blend in your bike? You're risking your bike now at that pump if the person before you used the blended fuel.

You go to a gas station or pump that does not switch between 10 and 15% ethanol so you don't ruin your motorcycle.

Is this where one of you fuckheads say Obama and Romney are the same?

You people are a joke!

Holy Shizza!!!!!!!! WTF

Hold on a second.

they don't want you to have more than 10%.. but they are selling 15%.

So how is that going to work in a larger tank if you are running low as it is?

Obama has proven once again that simple math isn't in his wheelhouse.

It's a tug of war between two of the most powerful lobbyist groups in the world - oil and corn.

That is why there is a 4 gallon min. ,

so that it will not kill your car "too" fast.

Wow, that should help the economy.. kill everyone's care so

that they have to buy new ones. lol

Some people in this thread have been drinking too much gasoline. Not sure if it's 10 or 15% ethanol.

the last 2 people are stupid!

1. Ethanol is made from corn- hence another reason why people starve on the planet..for fuel! ha

2. Carburetors can be fixed easier and cheaper then fuel-injected engines which is why most people junk their vehicles when engine is fried by them! ha idiots!

Dump it on the ground and light it with a match and go!

Good point.

Government will probably begin subsidizing (rationing) fuel to the 47%

simple exede 10% ethanol it washes oil from engine chamber and ruins it ....

by by piston rings .....

get an electric car ,,,

I work in the outdoor power industry and this should be a HUGE concern for anyone who operates small engines.

I have no problem with ethanol blend as long as non-blended gas is also available. But ethanol, even at 10%, causes MAJOR problems in small engines such as outdoor power equipment. These days, power equipment engines are mostly developed and built in Europe, China and Japan (Briggs, Kohler, Tecumseh, Subaru, Honda, Suzuki, etc) where they use non-blended fuel.

Ethanol is a coagulant and separates from fuel after sitting for around two weeks. The separated ethanol then clogs and damages engine carburetors which causes other damage to the machine. If the ethanol makes it through the carburetor and into the combustion chamber, it burns at a temperature much higher than even 93 octane fuel which causes cheap metal and plastic engine pieces to warp and become damaged. No way around it, Ethanol is a bad deal for small engines.

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks this is a coordinated effort between the EPA, various lobby groups and government as a whole to push 'planned replacement' which basically is a business model which ensures your item will break within five years, forcing you to buy another one. Your major retailers like Lowes, Home Depot, Tractor Supply, etc all sell products with cheap Chinese components that are intended to fail within a few years of purchase. When you have to buy the replacement, it helps the retailer, manufacturer, and the economy. See, it all fits together in a nice little package.

And don't think for a second that you'll just go buy another brand of lawnmower instead of the one that failed within 5 years... they are all the same with just different colors.

MTD makes Bolens, Yard Machine, Yard Man, Troy Bilt, Huskee, and a few others.

Husqvarna, a subsidiary of GE, makes Husqvarna, Poulan, Poulan Pro, and a couple others.

John Deere sold in retail stores is made by Briggs and Stratton, the same company that puts half the engines in these other brands.

You have a few independents out there still, but not many.

Anyway... fuck Iowa and Nebraska, ethanol sucks.

This just wouldn't work. I know many, many people who live paycheck to paycheck, and by the end of the week they literally only have a few bucks to put in gas to get to work. Do this, and people won't be able to get to work, then what?

They go to a gas station or pump that this mandate does not apply to, which will be most of them. Right now, all of them.

Thanks. Didn't know that.

Also, I have a hat with your quote on it that I picked up at the Alamo.

When is that Air powered car coming out?


So is this in effect or what:?

It should be posted at the pumps i would think?