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When/If TSHTF, if you have the ability to stay away from cities, don't underestimate...ATTN PREPPERS

 
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When/If TSHTF, if you have the ability to stay away from cities, don't underestimate...ATTN PREPPERS
Some of you (like me) have places to get to away from populated areas. Some of you are good woodsmen and women. Hunters etc...Prepers.

Even if you have all your preps in order. Land to grow food. Protection. Hunting and fishing gear. Gas and stabilizer. Everything you could think of to keep you and your family going strong when/if TSHTF, never underestimate the value of a pack of hounds. The more the merrier.

I have 2 beagles, a 7 year old female with 7 good years in the woods tracking, and a 1 year old pup who has been in the woods a great number of hours since she was 8 weeks old.

I'll try to get at least 2 more if TSHTF. Together as part of your family they offer hunting companionship, protection, an alert system, and a 1st line of defense. If you treat them well they'll always be there for you.

If you can, get some hounds.

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what would you recommend as best breeds?
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Beagles are scent hounds, developed primarily for tracking hare, rabbit, and other game. They have a great sense of smell and tracking instinct that sees them employed as detection dogs for prohibited agricultural imports and foodstuffs in quarantine around the world. Beagles are intelligent, and are popular as pets because of their size, even temper, and lack of inherited health problems.

Alongside the Bloodhound, the Beagle has one of the best developed senses of smell of any dog.

The Beagle has an even temper and gentle disposition. Described in several breed standards as "merry", they are amiable and typically neither aggressive nor timid, although this depends on the individual. The Beagle generally seems calmer once mentally matured, exhibiting naughty, puppy-like behaviour up until 2-4 years of age. They enjoy company, and although they may initially be standoffish with strangers, they are easily won over. They make poor guard dogs for this reason, although their tendency to bark or howl when confronted with the unfamiliar makes them good watch dogs.

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what would you recommend as best breeds?
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Beagles all the way for me. Have had em' my whole life.

Blue Tick Beagles are the type of beagle I've had most of the time.

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Plus god source of protein/fur in case of emergency...I repeat: "emergency".
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Plus god source of protein/fur in case of emergency...I repeat: "emergency".
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I'd hate to have to do that, but it's true.
We have 2 Maine Coons (cats)...they'd be dinner long before the dogs.
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Plus god source of protein/fur in case of emergency...I repeat: "emergency".
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PLUS they will help you to adopt to concept "eating your best friends"......in case of emergency of course.
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Plus god source of protein/fur in case of emergency...I repeat: "emergency".
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I'd hate to have to do that, but it's true.
We have 2 Maine Coons (cats)...they'd be dinner long before the dogs.
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True.. God forbid..... cats and crows...really bad meat...trust me.
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Plus god source of protein/fur in case of emergency...I repeat: "emergency".
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I'd hate to have to do that, but it's true.
We have 2 Maine Coons (cats)...they'd be dinner long before the dogs.
 Quoting: Wash


True.. God forbid..... cats and crows...really bad meat...trust me.
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My location is on a lake. Lots of ducks...except in winter. Lots of fish. Lots of rabbit and deer. Also, squirl and dove are pleantyful.
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so you live in rural canada??

may i ask what you do for work?

i live in general area of a city.

am strongly considering gettin some land and movin up north
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Lucky you!

I seen deer, turkey crossing my 2 acres......but huge trailer park down the road really worrying me in case of SHTF.
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so you live in rural canada??

may i ask what you do for work?

i live in general area of a city.

am strongly considering gettin some land and movin up north
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I live just outside Halifax, but have land 100kms away in the middle of no where. Off 2 dirt roads, and down a Jeep trail. Long story how we got to own the land, but a farmer on the other side of the lake sold it to us years ago.

I work in Sales.
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Lucky you!

I seen deer, turkey crossing my 2 acres......but huge trailer park down the road really worrying me in case of SHTF.
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Sounds like a little competition for those deer and turkeys.
You need a plan B.
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so you live in rural canada??

may i ask what you do for work?

i live in general area of a city.

am strongly considering gettin some land and movin up north
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I live just outside Halifax, but have land 100kms away in the middle of no where. Off 2 dirt roads, and down a Jeep trail. Long story how we got to own the land, but a farmer on the other side of the lake sold it to us years ago.

I work in Sales.
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filth city of toronto has been bringing this whole country down.

i wish to vacate the area indefinately.
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so you live in rural canada??

may i ask what you do for work?

i live in general area of a city.

am strongly considering gettin some land and movin up north
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I live just outside Halifax, but have land 100kms away in the middle of no where. Off 2 dirt roads, and down a Jeep trail. Long story how we got to own the land, but a farmer on the other side of the lake sold it to us years ago.

I work in Sales.
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filth city of toronto has been bringing this whole country down.

i wish to vacate the area indefinately.
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Parts of Northern Ont. are nice.
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indeed northern ontario is gorgeous..

i just need to worry about employment.

right now im working as a landscaper.. cuttinng grass n shrubs n such.

no real trade experience. but i am most definately more ambitious than most youth.. and i work harder
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Lucky you!

I seen deer, turkey crossing my 2 acres......but huge trailer park down the road really worrying me in case of SHTF.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23922342


Sounds like a little competition for those deer and turkeys.
You need a plan B.
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I suspect that trailer park will go after my place.....before they will think of deer or turkey.
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indeed northern ontario is gorgeous..

i just need to worry about employment.

right now im working as a landscaper.. cuttinng grass n shrubs n such.

no real trade experience. but i am most definately more ambitious than most youth.. and i work harder
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My Advice...if TS does not HTF, get into a big box Lowe's, or Home Depot and apply yourself. Strive for management and make t known. You'd be surprised what you can achieve financially in a fairly short amount of time.
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indeed northern ontario is gorgeous..

i just need to worry about employment.

right now im working as a landscaper.. cuttinng grass n shrubs n such.

no real trade experience. but i am most definately more ambitious than most youth.. and i work harder
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If you want trade experience try to get in property maintenance.
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Lucky you!

I seen deer, turkey crossing my 2 acres......but huge trailer park down the road really worrying me in case of SHTF.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23922342


Sounds like a little competition for those deer and turkeys.
You need a plan B.
 Quoting: Wash


I suspect that trailer park will go after my place.....before they will think of deer or turkey.
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I suspect your right.
Scary thought.
I'm greatful for what I have. Our cabin has 4 bedrooms, woodstove, good sized loft upstairs.
Our garden is about 20 x 20 feet, lots of great produce there this year. Panrty is full of dry goods (rice, pasta, soups, KD, canned milk)I have 4 cord of dry wood and about 2 cord that's not fully dry. I think I've planned pretty well.
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Lucky you!

I seen deer, turkey crossing my 2 acres......but huge trailer park down the road really worrying me in case of SHTF.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23922342


Sounds like a little competition for those deer and turkeys.
You need a plan B.
 Quoting: Wash


I suspect that trailer park will go after my place.....before they will think of deer or turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23922342


Oh they will that’s why you need neighbors / friends …you will need each other so start connecting with people now
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
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Lucky you!

I seen deer, turkey crossing my 2 acres......but huge trailer park down the road really worrying me in case of SHTF.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23922342


Sounds like a little competition for those deer and turkeys.
You need a plan B.
 Quoting: Wash


I suspect that trailer park will go after my place.....before they will think of deer or turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23922342


Oh they will that’s why you need neighbors / friends …you will need each other so start connecting with people now
 Quoting: YaRight


If you can't get away from people, try and keep them close.
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Wow, OP. Sure do wish someone had read your thread before they dropped a beagle off by my house on the coldest day of last year. littledog
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Wow, OP. Sure do wish someone had read your thread before they dropped a beagle off by my house on the coldest day of last year. littledog
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Poor thing. Hope he/she is in a good home now.
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Wow, OP. Sure do wish someone had read your thread before they dropped a beagle off by my house on the coldest day of last year. littledog
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Poor thing. Hope he/she is in a good home now.
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He's here. Your words about they would mature offered encouragement. I figure 10 yrs. or so things will get better. Thanks for caring. Was an attempt at humor. I love dogs. Most of them anyway. peace
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indeed northern ontario is gorgeous..

i just need to worry about employment.

right now im working as a landscaper.. cuttinng grass n shrubs n such.

no real trade experience. but i am most definately more ambitious than most youth.. and i work harder
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22427466


My Advice...if TS does not HTF, get into a big box Lowe's, or Home Depot and apply yourself. Strive for management and make t known. You'd be surprised what you can achieve financially in a fairly short amount of time.
 Quoting: Wash


thank you friend for your advice.
you seem very humble and wise.

thanks again.

strugglin for positive outlook.

got enough money saved for a good solid rifle lol or a couple survival courses.

need to get movin on a plan, u know?
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On the serious side, this is a good thread and if I were looking for a dog to find me some meat, it would for sure be a beagle. Think they can smell critters 2 states away and nothing seems to please them more than locating them.
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Plus god source of protein/fur in case of emergency...I repeat: "emergency".
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I'd hate to have to do that, but it's true.
We have 2 Maine Coons (cats)...they'd be dinner long before the dogs.
 Quoting: Wash


True.. God forbid..... cats and crows...really bad meat...trust me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23922342


My location is on a lake. Lots of ducks...except in winter. Lots of fish. Lots of rabbit and deer. Also, squirl and dove are pleantyful.
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Climate change will end your delusions of growing food and harvesting game. Not to mention you have got to feed your animals as well, if they do no succumb to the climate changes, pollution, et al.

Also, a small population of people will wipe country sides clean of small and large animals in short order. Louis and Clarks' small party wiped out large and small game animals on the north west coast 2 days walk around their camp in part of a one fall and one winter.

If it were not for the natives in the area bringing them food, they would have starved to death.

You are forgetting the population in this country is 300 million. You really think all those living in large cities are just going to sit in their rooms and starve without moving into the country side? You really think you will somehow be able to 'hide' where you are?

In the past, large numbers of people walked from the east to the west across this country in relatively short order.

Is there a road to your house? Hard to hide food and shelter with a road leading right to it.

But, its good to dream and it sounds like you got it already, that is awesome, enjoy it, cause it aint gonna last forever.
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I'd hate to have to do that, but it's true.
We have 2 Maine Coons (cats)...they'd be dinner long before the dogs.
 Quoting: Wash


True.. God forbid..... cats and crows...really bad meat...trust me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23922342


My location is on a lake. Lots of ducks...except in winter. Lots of fish. Lots of rabbit and deer. Also, squirl and dove are pleantyful.
 Quoting: Wash


Climate change will end your delusions of growing food and harvesting game. Not to mention you have got to feed your animals as well, if they do no succumb to the climate changes, pollution, et al.

Also, a small population of people will wipe country sides clean of small and large animals in short order. Louis and Clarks' small party wiped out large and small game animals on the north west coast 2 days walk around their camp in part of a one fall and one winter.

If it were not for the natives in the area bringing them food, they would have starved to death.

You are forgetting the population in this country is 300 million. You really think all those living in large cities are just going to sit in their rooms and starve without moving into the country side? You really think you will somehow be able to 'hide' where you are?

In the past, large numbers of people walked from the east to the west across this country in relatively short order.

Is there a road to your house? Hard to hide food and shelter with a road leading right to it.

But, its good to dream and it sounds like you got it already, that is awesome, enjoy it, cause it aint gonna last forever.
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Laughable.

This once great nation may have walked East to West coast as you say but not anymore.

You are sleeping at the wheel better pull off the next exit and check the map and stretch your legs.



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OP's scenario is quite a ways from perfect but your pessimism is not even in the ball park.

Come hell and high water who would I wish I listened to you or OP?

Good job OP thanks for the tip on beagles.
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Plus god source of protein/fur in case of emergency...I repeat: "emergency".
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PLUS they will help you to adopt to concept "eating your best friends"......in case of emergency of course.
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Nancy..That you?
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My dogs are English Mastiffs, two of them, 200+pounds. I heard Mastiffs were good for bear hunting, and bounty hunters. We do have bears here, I guess they'll be our neighbor hood watch dogs. Nothing but woods and farmland here.
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