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BREAKING: "President" Tim Turner indicted for multiple cases of propagating soverign citizen retardedness -

 
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They are always dismissed without prejudice within minutes.
Both the Judge and Prosecutor withdraw charges quickly as to not let the FRAUD they push be exposed.
Besides Contract and Trust Law are "Naural Law" TARD!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4710911


Ok wise legal scholar, then you know that even WHEN CASES ARE DISMISSED THERE ARE STILL CASE RECORDS. So find 1 case record where someone brings up "natural law" and the judge goes "oh noes! they have the sekret magic password! dismissed"

Contract and trust law are not natural law, trust law is a very minor part of law that has been trumped up by idiots like you.
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Your Ignorance and Shillery are showing. No one claims Natural law.
If you are charged as John Doe, and tell the court "yes" I am The Beneficiary of that Legal Name. Being the Legal Names
Beneficiary you am not compelled to perform due to Not being the Trustee of that Name. One cannot be both a Beneficiary and Trustee according to TRUST LAW.
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Your 100% lack of evidence is showing.

Still waiting for you to cite 1 single case in all of US case law at ANY LEVEL where someone did this and it worked. You claim they get dismissed when you do the uber secret legal magic, but that still fails because it still generates a case number showing it was dismissed and a court transcript.

The whole "The Name" thing is bullshit. The entire way you idiots apply trust law makes no actual sense to anyone who actually knows the law.
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 Quoting: BZB


HOW CAN THIS BE?

HE TOLD EVERYONE HE WAS NOT A PERSON

I THOUGHT THE COURT IS SUPPOSED TO FLEE IN TERROR AND DISMISS THE CASE!
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Ok wise legal scholar, then you know that even WHEN CASES ARE DISMISSED THERE ARE STILL CASE RECORDS. So find 1 case record where someone brings up "natural law" and the judge goes "oh noes! they have the sekret magic password! dismissed"

Contract and trust law are not natural law, trust law is a very minor part of law that has been trumped up by idiots like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099851


Your Ignorance and Shillery are showing. No one claims Natural law.
If you are charged as John Doe, and tell the court "yes" I am The Beneficiary of that Legal Name. Being the Legal Names
Beneficiary you am not compelled to perform due to Not being the Trustee of that Name. One cannot be both a Beneficiary and Trustee according to TRUST LAW.
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And we both know the court cannot prove you are not the Beneficiary of that Legal name. Understand
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4710911

The charges are then dropped otherwise the Procecutor has to pay the charges. That why Procecutors always come to Court with their checkbooks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4710911


List 1 case where this has ever happened.

Still waiting.
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Ok wise legal scholar, then you know that even WHEN CASES ARE DISMISSED THERE ARE STILL CASE RECORDS. So find 1 case record where someone brings up "natural law" and the judge goes "oh noes! they have the sekret magic password! dismissed"

Contract and trust law are not natural law, trust law is a very minor part of law that has been trumped up by idiots like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099851


Your Ignorance and Shillery are showing. No one claims Natural law.
If you are charged as John Doe, and tell the court "yes" I am The Beneficiary of that Legal Name. Being the Legal Names
Beneficiary you am not compelled to perform due to Not being the Trustee of that Name. One cannot be both a Beneficiary and Trustee according to TRUST LAW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4710911

And we both know the court cannot prove you are not the Beneficiary of that Legal name. Understand
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4710911

The charges are then dropped otherwise the Procecutor has to pay the charges. That why Procecutors always come to Court with their checkbooks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4710911


Important to remember though this only works if you are charged with a fiction of law, ie LEGAL if a True flesh and blood victim can make witness to a crime acted upon them by you , well you get what you deserve
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 Quoting: BZB


HOW CAN THIS BE?

HE TOLD EVERYONE HE WAS NOT A PERSON

I THOUGHT THE COURT IS SUPPOSED TO FLEE IN TERROR AND DISMISS THE CASE!
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 Quoting: BZB


HOW CAN THIS BE?

HE TOLD EVERYONE HE WAS NOT A PERSON

I THOUGHT THE COURT IS SUPPOSED TO FLEE IN TERROR AND DISMISS THE CASE!
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That wasn't the court, that was a scared man with a teaser. tounge
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Shin this pitt?

This is relevant to my interwebs at least I don't know about anyone else.

Thanks for posting a friend just sent me an email about it and I'm surprised there isn't more on GLP about this.
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SOVEREIGN CITIZENS, PLEASE TELL ME - how can this be? If sovereign citizen mythology is correct, then they CANT TOUCH Tim Turner!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099851


"CAN'T TOUCH"
the same way the USA 'can't tuch' Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi?
Q: Factually, what is the USA?
A: a gang of men and women wearing USA COLORS and pointing guns at every person on earth demanding that every person purchase permission to sustain their life, any person that refuses to purchase permission to sustain their life WILL BE SHOT...

Ps - wake up 'AC', you to are a slave to the USA and on "its" hit list



pigchef <- WANTED FOR SELLING THE US ECONOMY TO CHINA
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will they be fried on the electric chair

cruise



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? rant
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Your knowledge of the constitution has failed.

Please cite the verse of the Constitution that says you cannot be held for committing terrorist acts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099851


'AC', i suspect you to be retarded, stupid, liar, instigator,

the Constitution does not list the things government cannot do because there are 10000000000000000000000k things government cannot do, too many to list. the Constitution does list the very few things government can do within strict confines.
"GOVERNMENT" is nothing more than a gang of men and women, or your neighbors or the person walking on the sidewalk in front of your house.
if your neighbor cannot demand that you give him 50% of your paycheck, or your neighbor cannot point a gun at you - throw you in his garage - and agree to let you go AFTER you give him 50% of your paycheck...
how can any other man or woman do to you the things your neighbor cannot do to you?

You 'AC' might laugh at T Turner, but you offer zero value to your fellow man or woman. You 'AC' seem to enjoy your slavery and laugh at people that simply do not want to be slaves.

so go smiling to the IRS while you purchase permission to sustain your life 'AC', enjoy your slavery and the slavery of your Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Children, thanks to YOU (and others just like YOU) your family will enjoy some stranger, commonly referred to as "GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE", pointing a gun at them and demanding payment or bullets...
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~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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Watch and learn:


 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Don't take the toothpick out!
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Watch and learn:


 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Don't take the toothpick out!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16295866


As soon as you take their orders in court, you are contrtacting and then they have your consent. Always be "AS KING" questions; take the position of power that YOU have.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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As far as the Constitution applies, it does not apply,
Why? It is a document delineating the terms of a Trust.
 Quoting: Hugh G. Rechtion


How? Who are the beneficial owners and who are the equitable owners? What is the property subject to the trust?

You know not of what you speak
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Quick example to get your mind running...
Of the above elements of a Contract, can anyone please
point to one element a Corporation can meet?
 Quoting: Hugh G. Rechtion


A corporation isn't a contract. That's like saying "Can anyone please point to an element of exclusively male anatomy a female has?"

Get with the program.

Last Edited by RevengeClaw on 11/08/2012 03:30 PM
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The post two above is mine.

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As soon as you take their orders in court, you are contrtacting and then they have your consent.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


No, you're not. Court proceedings are not a contract, and even if they were, simply turning up couldn't possibly be construed as consent as it would fall foul of the Felthouse v Bindley rule, not to mention a failure of consideration and lack of intention to create legal relations and the fact there's no consensus ad idem.

Always be "AS KING" questions; take the position of power that YOU have.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Always answer in that manner if you always want to lose.

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Still waiting for you to cite 1 single case in all of US case law at ANY LEVEL where someone did this and it worked. You claim they get dismissed when you do the uber secret legal magic, but that still fails because it still generates a case number showing it was dismissed and a court transcript
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099851


Of course they can't, because it has never happened. The Meads v Meads judgement from the Court of Queen's Bench of Alberta is absolutely brilliant; Justice Rookes absolutely eviscerates to Freeman/Sovrun Citizen/Whatever movement in forensic and methodical detail in a 192-page judgement.

Their bizarre, ritualistic courtroom behaviour, the obsession with weird seals and magical behaviour, are the actions of desperate, often poor, often uneducated individuals (though Wesley Snipes gave it a run in court; he got 3 years imprisonment).

The whole "The Name" thing is bullshit. The entire way you idiots apply trust law makes no actual sense to anyone who actually knows the law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099851


Exactly. They claim the courts will fold like a deck of cards at the utterance of their bizarre incantations; the only thing that folds are these people when they encounter an actual lawyer who cites real facts and challenges them to substantiate their claims.

Last Edited by RevengeClaw on 11/08/2012 03:28 PM
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DOJ Press Release:
[link to www.justice.gov]

"A federal grand jury in Montgomery, Ala., charged James Timothy Turner, also known as Tim Turner, with conspiracy to defraud the United States, attempting to pay taxes with fictitious financial instruments, attempting to obstruct and impede the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), failing to file a 2009 federal income tax return and falsely testifying under oath in a bankruptcy proceeding, the Justice Department, the IRS, and the FBI announced today."

This is Tim Turner, the Fake President of the Fake Republic for the united (small U!) States.

I am laughing SO HARD at all the sovereign citizen tards now.
 Quoting: Soverign Citizen 19099851


A sovereign citizen wouldn't use fictitious financial instruments. Sovereign citizens use US coin or barter. A sovereign wouldn't owe income taxes so he surely wouldn't have paid for them. A sovereign wouldn't be caught dead in a federal bankruptcy court.

Therefore Turner isn't a sovereign citizen - which is why he was indicted.
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A sovereign citizen wouldn't use fictitious financial instruments. Sovereign citizens use US coin or barter. A sovereign wouldn't owe income taxes so he surely wouldn't have paid for them. A sovereign wouldn't be caught dead in a federal bankruptcy court.

Therefore Turner isn't a sovereign citizen - which is why he was indicted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


Hang on, I thought it was the magic incantations that mattered, not one's behaviour.

Or does saying "Ooga booga hocus pocus" in open court only hex the judge if you have at least four Spanish dubloons in your pocket?
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As far as the Constitution applies, it does not apply,
Why? It is a document delineating the terms of a Trust.
Which you were not party too, Natural Law dictates it does not apply to anyone, you who were not party to it.
 Quoting: Hugh G. Rechtion


Questions...

The trust was also set up for the posterity right?

1. A public offical gives their oath or affirmation to support the Constitution...

In my reading this document is basically to limit government to a defined set of rules and operate as a Republic form of government (government in public, not secret and protect the rights listed in the bill of rights)

2. If I accept their public offer / oath or affirmation -

does that complete the contract between me and them?

They gave their solemn word. If I accept it... Does that make me a party to the trust?

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