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God created everything that exists, even the devil. Why does our Father allow evil things to befall His innocent children when He could prevent it? Because He loves us THAT much. He loves us more than we could ever possibly comprehend. He is willing to bear the unbelievable pain involved in watching His innocent children suffer horribly, knowing He is responsible for their suffering, knowing that He could end it at any time, listening to their cries for help, knowing they will most likely curse Him for it, because He knows it will make us better people, it will show us our own strength, it will teach us what we wouldn’t have learned without the pain, even if we don’t have the wisdom yet to understand why or how. The pain we experience, most of all the pain we didn’t ask for or deserve, is the opportunity God gives us to learn. He only hopes, as any loving Father would, that we will eventually understand the lesson we so desperately need. He does not show us the unbelievable pain and sacrifice He eternally endures for us, because He gives His love with no expectation of love in return, and no expectation of sympathy for the pain He endures to give it to us – the purest example of selfless love. He is an inspiration, and an example of love that we can never hope to repay or to duplicate in a million lifetimes.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

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Most will end up better in the after life, it teaches us all something while on earth. Life is short when you think about it.
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God created everything that exists, even the devil. Why does our Father allow evil things to befall His innocent children when He could prevent it? Because He loves us THAT much. He loves us more than we could ever possibly comprehend. He is willing to bear the unbelievable pain involved in watching His innocent children suffer horribly, knowing He is responsible for their suffering, knowing that He could end it at any time, listening to their cries for help, knowing they will most likely curse Him for it, because He knows it will make us better people, it will show us our own strength, it will teach us what we wouldn’t have learned without the pain, even if we don’t have the wisdom yet to understand why or how. The pain we experience, most of all the pain we didn’t ask for or deserve, is the opportunity God gives us to learn. He only hopes, as any loving Father would, that we will eventually understand the lesson we so desperately need. He does not show us the unbelievable pain and sacrifice He eternally endures for us, because He gives His love with no expectation of love in return, and no expectation of sympathy for the pain He endures to give it to us – the purest example of selfless love. He is an inspiration, and an example of love that we can never hope to repay or to duplicate in a million lifetimes.
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Putting it that way..I might tie my kids to the heater and watch them scream in agony until the finally learn NOT to touch the heater.

Then I will be like my father in heaven..bearing the agony of my children as I lovingly watch them WRITHE.

PRAISE THE LORD.
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I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
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Read the following, as well as its concurrent chapters and you will have your questions answered as clear as day. [link to www.seventh-day.org]
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
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No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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I actually think God is still asleep. When he wakes up I don't think he is going to be very happy.
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I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
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No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son


So god did all the millions who are starving to death..and all those killed by hitler and stalin..and all those killed in wars and such..a GREAT BIG FAVOUR.

If Gods love is like that..can you imagine how the world would be if satan took over?
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Getting to Heaven is as easy as being truly victimized.

Honestly, God really doesn't work in such mysterious ways...
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I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
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No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son


I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23986337


No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son



Then why are all the millions of Indians and third world retards so stupid? They are full of pain and despair but dumb as shit....No logic in this thread....Just idealism.
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Simple.. he doesn't exist
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He gains power from tears..
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I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
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No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son


So god did all the millions who are starving to death..and all those killed by hitler and stalin..and all those killed in wars and such..a GREAT BIG FAVOUR.

If Gods love is like that..can you imagine how the world would be if satan took over?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20205095


Since God created all things, to include Satan, it stands to reason that by default, He is responsible for all that happens to us, both good and bad. However, He has given us guidance through His prophets and His Son Jesus Christ on how best to live our lives, and to avoid evil when we are confronted with it. It is our choice, our free will to decide which path we will follow, God only hopes we will choose love over hate, reverence over mockery, humility over arrogance.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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The theory is possible, I admit. What greater lesson for compassion is there other than to go through the fire ourselves.

However, even though I acknowledge the theory is possible, it still smells of another form of control. Ya know, the "sit back and take it" theme and eventually you'll be saved, and it will pass.

I rated 4 stars because I'm just not certain, and remember, you can't be either.
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Ugh, and now I see you just dropped the JC bomb. You do realize that this theory doesn't need to include the bible right?
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God created everything that exists, even the devil. Why does our Father allow evil things to befall His innocent children when He could prevent it? Because He loves us THAT much. He loves us more than we could ever possibly comprehend. He is willing to bear the unbelievable pain involved in watching His innocent children suffer horribly, knowing He is responsible for their suffering, knowing that He could end it at any time, listening to their cries for help, knowing they will most likely curse Him for it, because He knows it will make us better people, it will show us our own strength, it will teach us what we wouldn’t have learned without the pain, even if we don’t have the wisdom yet to understand why or how. The pain we experience, most of all the pain we didn’t ask for or deserve, is the opportunity God gives us to learn. He only hopes, as any loving Father would, that we will eventually understand the lesson we so desperately need. He does not show us the unbelievable pain and sacrifice He eternally endures for us, because He gives His love with no expectation of love in return, and no expectation of sympathy for the pain He endures to give it to us – the purest example of selfless love. He is an inspiration, and an example of love that we can never hope to repay or to duplicate in a million lifetimes.
 Quoting: Rising Son


its hard to see the big picture. the book of life sits next to God, but He "chooses" not to look.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
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No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son


I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23986337


No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son



Then why are all the millions of Indians and third world retards so stupid? They are full of pain and despair but dumb as shit....No logic in this thread....Just idealism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23986337


Those people are not stupid, they have been fooled into an ideology of hatred, with threat of death if they resist. It is manipulation at it's core, and it is pure evil. However, we all have an innate and instinctual knowledge of what is right and wrong, regardless of those around us. Even when confronted with overwhelming evil, we still have the means and wisdom to resist.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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My friend. I have wrestled with this question for many years. My answer may not be yours, but the one I have come to, is God isn't allowing the suffering at all.... We are. How ever much we do not want to believe it, we go to work, watch tv, visit friends etc, and very few of us go out and seek these people that are suffering and attempt to Intervene. We let it happen. And God having given us the greatest gift of all, our free will, suffers greatly with the innocent, and anguishes that we don't intervene. It is in more of our power to stop it, than those who wish to cause harm. It's this same free will that will probably lead us to our destruction. And he will suffer greatly at that. I think we have really let him down, although I don't think it's our fault. We seem to have had a lot of "help" in that direction. But take heart, humanity IS starting to wake up, and we may have a chance to beat them. In the end, it is God who will judge us, one by one by one. Take care of yourself and those around you, cast a message of love far and wide. God will take care of the rest ;)
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Ugh, and now I see you just dropped the JC bomb. You do realize that this theory doesn't need to include the bible right?
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I have not quoted the bible, nor will I. That is for you to read and decide what you will. However, I know the bible was written my men, divinely inspired or not, so I put more importance on what I feel God wants me to know within my own heart. If that contradicts what is in the bible, then so be it.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23986337


No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son


I want to vomit at the thought of what you describe as the greatest love of all....

Pain and despair = Love... whatever wolfie!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23986337


No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son



Then why are all the millions of Indians and third world retards so stupid? They are full of pain and despair but dumb as shit....No logic in this thread....Just idealism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23986337


Those people are not stupid, they have been fooled into an ideology of hatred, with threat of death if they resist. It is manipulation at it's core, and it is pure evil. However, we all have an innate and instinctual knowledge of what is right and wrong, regardless of those around us. Even when confronted with overwhelming evil, we still have the means and wisdom to resist.
 Quoting: Rising Son


How can you talk about manipulation and force being evil when christians use it every day..as does god..according to them.

Salvation is NOT FREE.

ITS THE WORST BLACKMAIL EVERY PERPETUATED ON THE HUMAN RACE!!

WE dont get A CHOICE TO LOVE GOD..WE ARE forced into it WHICH proves god does not love!!!!

You cannot FORCE someone to LOVE you by threatening to burn them alive forever..YOU CANT do that and call it LOVE!

If a man on earth did this..threatened a woman with torture if she did not marry him..and actually DID torture her when she refused..for OBVIOUS reasons..he would be EXECUTED or locked away in a mental house for LIFE!!

BUT GOD says and does the SAME THING TO US!!

FIRST..he FORCES us to be born IN SIN..in a system HE SET UP..PLANNED..AND CREATED..FULLY KNOWING what will happen..he FORCED this life upon us..we DID NOT ASK for it.

Then to confuse the living crap out of us he lets us live with about 50,000 differing religions..MOST of them more or less the same..DO things THEIR way or SUFFER forever...

And then..when we DONT love God the way HE is blackmailing us to do with all his threats....HE HAS US tortured TO DEATH..IN A DEATH THAT never ends..FOR NOT loving such a screwed in the head tyrannical sicko !

BUT WHO would?

WOULD you LOVE SOMEONE WHO forced YOU TO LOVE THEM??

Then WHY does GOD EXPECT..nay..DEMAND..we love HIM..when he threatens to TORTURE US FOREVER if we DONT..for living a life HE FORCED on us?
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My friend. I have wrestled with this question for many years. My answer may not be yours, but the one I have come to, is God isn't allowing the suffering at all.... We are. How ever much we do not want to believe it, we go to work, watch tv, visit friends etc, and very few of us go out and seek these people that are suffering and attempt to Intervene. We let it happen. And God having given us the greatest gift of all, our free will, suffers greatly with the innocent, and anguishes that we don't intervene. It is in more of our power to stop it, than those who wish to cause harm. It's this same free will that will probably lead us to our destruction. And he will suffer greatly at that. I think we have really let him down, although I don't think it's our fault. We seem to have had a lot of "help" in that direction. But take heart, humanity IS starting to wake up, and we may have a chance to beat them. In the end, it is God who will judge us, one by one by one. Take care of yourself and those around you, cast a message of love far and wide. God will take care of the rest ;)
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I agree with you that God does expect us to help those who cannot help themselves. However, the same question is asked when thousands die due to a natural disaster, one that we could not have prevented. It is during times like those that people question God the most.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Free will.

We're all like actors locked in roles and when we croak we see they were our friend. It's all a hoot. Who knows how long we're really here or if we're really even real. What if this is the matrix, and life is but a dream?
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He does not allow innocent people to suffer. If people suffer, then they have created the events that make them suffer themselves, and through that suffering many lessons will be learned!
God gave the freedom of choice, that is the law, and that means total free choice. Whatever shit you do and allow, you will go through until you learn to no longer do it, which is why you should have taken your world into peace and not self destruction.
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No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
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No, my friend. Pain and despair = strength and learning :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son



Then why are all the millions of Indians and third world retards so stupid? They are full of pain and despair but dumb as shit....No logic in this thread....Just idealism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23986337


Those people are not stupid, they have been fooled into an ideology of hatred, with threat of death if they resist. It is manipulation at it's core, and it is pure evil. However, we all have an innate and instinctual knowledge of what is right and wrong, regardless of those around us. Even when confronted with overwhelming evil, we still have the means and wisdom to resist.
 Quoting: Rising Son


How can you talk about manipulation and force being evil when christians use it every day..as does god..according to them.

Salvation is NOT FREE.

ITS THE WORST BLACKMAIL EVERY PERPETUATED ON THE HUMAN RACE!!

WE dont get A CHOICE TO LOVE GOD..WE ARE forced into it WHICH proves god does not love!!!!

You cannot FORCE someone to LOVE you by threatening to burn them alive forever..YOU CANT do that and call it LOVE!

If a man on earth did this..threatened a woman with torture if she did not marry him..and actually DID torture her when she refused..for OBVIOUS reasons..he would be EXECUTED or locked away in a mental house for LIFE!!

BUT GOD says and does the SAME THING TO US!!

FIRST..he FORCES us to be born IN SIN..in a system HE SET UP..PLANNED..AND CREATED..FULLY KNOWING what will happen..he FORCED this life upon us..we DID NOT ASK for it.

Then to confuse the living crap out of us he lets us live with about 50,000 differing religions..MOST of them more or less the same..DO things THEIR way or SUFFER forever...

And then..when we DONT love God the way HE is blackmailing us to do with all his threats....HE HAS US tortured TO DEATH..IN A DEATH THAT never ends..FOR NOT loving such a screwed in the head tyrannical sicko !

BUT WHO would?

WOULD you LOVE SOMEONE WHO forced YOU TO LOVE THEM??

Then WHY does GOD EXPECT..nay..DEMAND..we love HIM..when he threatens to TORTURE US FOREVER if we DONT..for living a life HE FORCED on us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20205095


I can see your frustration, and on the surface, it certainly looks like the way you described. However, we have the choice to follow God's commandments and love our fellow brothers and sisters, or not. As much pain as is inflicted on us after death is due to our own mistreatment of others while alive.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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God created everything that exists, even the devil. Why does our Father allow evil things to befall His innocent children when He could prevent it? Because He loves us THAT much. He loves us more than we could ever possibly comprehend. He is willing to bear the unbelievable pain involved in watching His innocent children suffer horribly, knowing He is responsible for their suffering, knowing that He could end it at any time, listening to their cries for help, knowing they will most likely curse Him for it, because He knows it will make us better people, it will show us our own strength, it will teach us what we wouldn’t have learned without the pain, even if we don’t have the wisdom yet to understand why or how. The pain we experience, most of all the pain we didn’t ask for or deserve, is the opportunity God gives us to learn. He only hopes, as any loving Father would, that we will eventually understand the lesson we so desperately need. He does not show us the unbelievable pain and sacrifice He eternally endures for us, because He gives His love with no expectation of love in return, and no expectation of sympathy for the pain He endures to give it to us – the purest example of selfless love. He is an inspiration, and an example of love that we can never hope to repay or to duplicate in a million lifetimes.
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Damn dude. I hate reading brick walls. Break that shit up.
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Then why are all the millions of Indians and third world retards so stupid? They are full of pain and despair but dumb as shit....No logic in this thread....Just idealism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23986337


Those people are not stupid, they have been fooled into an ideology of hatred, with threat of death if they resist. It is manipulation at it's core, and it is pure evil. However, we all have an innate and instinctual knowledge of what is right and wrong, regardless of those around us. Even when confronted with overwhelming evil, we still have the means and wisdom to resist.
 Quoting: Rising Son


How can you talk about manipulation and force being evil when christians use it every day..as does god..according to them.

Salvation is NOT FREE.

ITS THE WORST BLACKMAIL EVERY PERPETUATED ON THE HUMAN RACE!!

WE dont get A CHOICE TO LOVE GOD..WE ARE forced into it WHICH proves god does not love!!!!

You cannot FORCE someone to LOVE you by threatening to burn them alive forever..YOU CANT do that and call it LOVE!

If a man on earth did this..threatened a woman with torture if she did not marry him..and actually DID torture her when she refused..for OBVIOUS reasons..he would be EXECUTED or locked away in a mental house for LIFE!!

BUT GOD says and does the SAME THING TO US!!

FIRST..he FORCES us to be born IN SIN..in a system HE SET UP..PLANNED..AND CREATED..FULLY KNOWING what will happen..he FORCED this life upon us..we DID NOT ASK for it.

Then to confuse the living crap out of us he lets us live with about 50,000 differing religions..MOST of them more or less the same..DO things THEIR way or SUFFER forever...

And then..when we DONT love God the way HE is blackmailing us to do with all his threats....HE HAS US tortured TO DEATH..IN A DEATH THAT never ends..FOR NOT loving such a screwed in the head tyrannical sicko !

BUT WHO would?

WOULD you LOVE SOMEONE WHO forced YOU TO LOVE THEM??

Then WHY does GOD EXPECT..nay..DEMAND..we love HIM..when he threatens to TORTURE US FOREVER if we DONT..for living a life HE FORCED on us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20205095


I can see your frustration, and on the surface, it certainly looks like the way you described. However, we have the choice to follow God's commandments and love our fellow brothers and sisters, or not. As much pain as is inflicted on us after death is due to our own mistreatment of others while alive.
 Quoting: Rising Son


In that case christians are in DEEP SHIT..cause they are the cruellest..most selfish..arrogant..hurtful UNLOVING people on the face of the planet next to muslims.
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He does not allow innocent people to suffer. If people suffer, then they have created the events that make them suffer themselves, and through that suffering many lessons will be learned!
God gave the freedom of choice, that is the law, and that means total free choice. Whatever shit you do and allow, you will go through until you learn to no longer do it, which is why you should have taken your world into peace and not self destruction.
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I'm sorry, my friend - but you cannot claim that victims of natural disasters created those events. I know that is on a grander scale than how most people tend to suffer, so I see your point there - if you live by the sword, you die by it.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

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09/18/2012 11:48 PM

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I will agree with you, SOME Christians do tend to be very arrogant and condescending, if not outright hypocritical. You would be right in assuming they are not following God's path for them, they are following their own.

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"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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09/18/2012 11:59 PM
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In that case christians are in DEEP SHIT..cause they are the cruellest..most selfish..arrogant..hurtful UNLOVING people on the face of the planet next to muslims.
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You sure are a bitter hateful pill. That's your reality. Too bad.
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In that case christians are in DEEP SHIT..cause they are the cruellest..most selfish..arrogant..hurtful UNLOVING people on the face of the planet next to muslims.
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You sure are a bitter hateful pill. That's your reality. Too bad.
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Ya see what I mean?

Instead of reaching out to a wounded and very damages soul in love..as christians are supposed to..they arrogantly sneer at your pain..and laught with evil mocking at your demise.

TYPICAL FUCKING CHRISTIAN.
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Could you be more specific about your original question?


Are you referring to suffering amongst the children of God.........or the population in general?

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