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You've got two choices when the SHTF. You can either starve to death or take your chances and eat your rice stash. I say keep buying rice for emergency purposes.

This deserves to be repeated:

US poultry industry has a disturbing habit of feeding arsenic to chickens. Arsenic, it turns out, helps control a common bug that infects chicken meat, and also gives chicken flesh a pink hue, which the industry thinks consumers want.

[link to www.motherjones.com]

Don't forget that chicken is also pumped full of hormones so that the birds will grow very quickly. All meats has nasty things in them. This is includes not just meat but almost everything on store shelves. Sad, but true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


Other countries don't allow hormones or antibiotics in their meat either...

I don't know why you act like you're forbidden to buy healthier food. It's imported to your country too.
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Damn it! Rice was one thing I could still eat.
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09/19/2012 10:12 PM
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You've got two choices when the SHTF. You can either starve to death or take your chances and eat your rice stash. I say keep buying rice for emergency purposes.

This deserves to be repeated:

US poultry industry has a disturbing habit of feeding arsenic to chickens. Arsenic, it turns out, helps control a common bug that infects chicken meat, and also gives chicken flesh a pink hue, which the industry thinks consumers want.

[link to www.motherjones.com]

Don't forget that chicken is also pumped full of hormones so that the birds will grow very quickly. All meats has nasty things in them. This is includes not just meat but almost everything on store shelves. Sad, but true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


Other countries don't allow hormones or antibiotics in their meat either...

I don't know why you act like you're forbidden to buy healthier food. It's imported to your country too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3199789


Canada is not innocent when it comes to shady practices either. Watch Frankensteer if you have Netflix. Here's a clip:

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09/19/2012 10:15 PM
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You've got two choices when the SHTF. You can either starve to death or take your chances and eat your rice stash. I say keep buying rice for emergency purposes.

This deserves to be repeated:

US poultry industry has a disturbing habit of feeding arsenic to chickens. Arsenic, it turns out, helps control a common bug that infects chicken meat, and also gives chicken flesh a pink hue, which the industry thinks consumers want.

[link to www.motherjones.com]

Don't forget that chicken is also pumped full of hormones so that the birds will grow very quickly. All meats has nasty things in them. This is includes not just meat but almost everything on store shelves. Sad, but true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


Other countries don't allow hormones or antibiotics in their meat either...

I don't know why you act like you're forbidden to buy healthier food. It's imported to your country too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3199789


perhaps you could make it easy for us..
instead of the air of criticism in your posts, perhaps you could provide a link to support your claims? (claims, which, btw i know to be true)
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09/19/2012 10:21 PM
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FRANKENSTEER is a disturbing yet compelling documentary that reveals how the ordinary cow is being transformed into an antibiotic dependent, hormone-laced potential carrier of toxic bacteria, all in the name of cheaper food.

The beef industry, supported by North American government agencies and pharmaceutical companies, has engaged in an on-going experiment to create the perfect food machine to increase speed of production and reduce the cost of manufacture. But there is a price in producing a cheap industrial product. This benign, grazing herbivore has undergone a radical rethinking in how it's raised, fed and slaughtered, including recent changes in inspection rules have shifted the responsibility for food safety from government inspectors to the people on the floor who do the slaughtering and packing.

FRANKENSTEER reveals some startling facts. Every year 50% of the total tonnage of antibiotics used in Canada ends up in livestock. And every year cattle raised in massive feedlots are routinely dosed with antibiotics even if they are not sick. For public health safety reasons during the current BSE (Mad Cow disease) crisis, North American health officials have labeled certain parts of the cow as bio-hazardous products and have ordered that they be handled accordingly.
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You've got two choices when the SHTF. You can either starve to death or take your chances and eat your rice stash. I say keep buying rice for emergency purposes.

This deserves to be repeated:

US poultry industry has a disturbing habit of feeding arsenic to chickens. Arsenic, it turns out, helps control a common bug that infects chicken meat, and also gives chicken flesh a pink hue, which the industry thinks consumers want.

[link to www.motherjones.com]

Don't forget that chicken is also pumped full of hormones so that the birds will grow very quickly. All meats has nasty things in them. This is includes not just meat but almost everything on store shelves. Sad, but true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


Other countries don't allow hormones or antibiotics in their meat either...

I don't know why you act like you're forbidden to buy healthier food. It's imported to your country too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3199789


Canada is not innocent when it comes to shady practices either. Watch Frankensteer if you have Netflix. Here's a clip:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


I would NEVER recommend anyone ever buy Canadian meat!

I'm a proud Canadian but NOT PROUD of our meat! Especially since Harper reduced the meat standards even further, now if the animal dies from whatever infection it has before it even gets to the slaughterhouse, that's fine, they'll still slaughter it and process it and sell it. It's a disaster waiting to happen.

I never touch the stuff!
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09/19/2012 10:22 PM
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only pussy ass niggggggggggaaaahhhhhhs neeed food
just a dumb broke boy
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09/19/2012 10:23 PM
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You can watch a semi decent video quality of Frankensteer here:

[link to www.myspace.com]

It's not on YouTube, just the trailer.
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09/19/2012 10:24 PM
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You've got two choices when the SHTF. You can either starve to death or take your chances and eat your rice stash. I say keep buying rice for emergency purposes.

This deserves to be repeated:

US poultry industry has a disturbing habit of feeding arsenic to chickens. Arsenic, it turns out, helps control a common bug that infects chicken meat, and also gives chicken flesh a pink hue, which the industry thinks consumers want.

[link to www.motherjones.com]

Don't forget that chicken is also pumped full of hormones so that the birds will grow very quickly. All meats has nasty things in them. This is includes not just meat but almost everything on store shelves. Sad, but true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


Other countries don't allow hormones or antibiotics in their meat either...

I don't know why you act like you're forbidden to buy healthier food. It's imported to your country too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3199789


perhaps you could make it easy for us..
instead of the air of criticism in your posts, perhaps you could provide a link to support your claims? (claims, which, btw i know to be true)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22427466



...that other countries have higher standards for their food safety or that their products are imported into America and easily available at everyone's local Costco or whatever?

Anyway, like you said, you already know, and I'm guessing most people here have a search engine.

By the way, just cause my flag says Canada, doesn't mean it's Canadian food I'm recommending. I'm not proud to say that we're hardly better than the US on these issues.
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09/19/2012 10:25 PM
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Most rice comes from Arkansas btw...
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09/19/2012 10:27 PM
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dont believe them this is the FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION that just stocked up on ammo...
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Yeah! Because we'll all be eating bullets soon. LOL
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09/19/2012 10:32 PM
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Ya know...this was the first thing I thought of....a psy op on preppers and survivalist...they all have an ass load of rice.

Anyway to test rice independently?
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09/19/2012 10:34 PM
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Apparently besides the intentional feeding chickens arsenic and then using their poop to fertilize the rice, it's also found to be increased in foods and water by coal burning and copper smelting.

So... I guess if you live near or downwind from a coal plant or copper smelter... you probably already have your fill of arsenic, and really shouldn't gamble with adding any rice products to your diet.
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09/19/2012 10:36 PM
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Treatment

Chelation
Chemical and synthetic methods are now used to treat arsenic poisoning. Dimercaprol and dimercaptosuccinic acid are chelating agents which sequester the arsenic away from blood proteins and are used in treating acute arsenic poisoning. The most important side effect is hypertension. Dimercaprol is considerably more toxic than succimer.

Mineral supplements
Supplemental potassium decreases the risk of experiencing a life-threatening heart rhythm problem from arsenic trioxide.

Nutritional intervention
Rats daily dosed with arsenic in their water, in levels equivalent to those found in groundwater in Bangladesh and West Bengal were found to respond to garlic extracts, with 40 percent less arsenic in their blood and liver, and passed 45 percent more arsenic in their urine. The conclusion is that sulfur-containing substances in garlic scavenge arsenic from tissues and blood. The presentation concludes that people in areas at risk of arsenic contamination in the water supply should eat one to three cloves of garlic per day as a preventative.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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09/19/2012 10:37 PM
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From the Consumer Reports webpage:

<<<Change the way you cook rice. You may be able to cut your exposure to inorganic arsenic in rice by rinsing raw rice thoroughly before cooking, using a ratio of 6 cups water to 1 cup rice for cooking and draining the excess water afterward. That is a traditional method of cooking rice in Asia. The modern technique of cooking rice in water that is entirely absorbed by the grains has been promoted because it allows rice to retain more of its vitamins and other nutrients. But even though you may sacrifice some of rice's nutritional value, research has shown that rinsing and using more water removes about 30 percent of the rice's inorganic arsenic content.>>>

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I have purchased about two hundred pounds of rice over the past year, because it stores well, has lots of calories/carbs, and it's really cheap when the twenty pound bags go on sale. I'm sorry that it has arsenic but oh well. On the Consumer Reports webpage even the organic rice tested with arsenic.

If TSHTF, I will eat my rice and bean supply with great gratitude and appreciation.
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09/19/2012 10:38 PM
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Treatment

Chelation
Chemical and synthetic methods are now used to treat arsenic poisoning. Dimercaprol and dimercaptosuccinic acid are chelating agents which sequester the arsenic away from blood proteins and are used in treating acute arsenic poisoning. The most important side effect is hypertension. Dimercaprol is considerably more toxic than succimer.

Mineral supplements
Supplemental potassium decreases the risk of experiencing a life-threatening heart rhythm problem from arsenic trioxide.

Nutritional intervention
Rats daily dosed with arsenic in their water, in levels equivalent to those found in groundwater in Bangladesh and West Bengal were found to respond to garlic extracts, with 40 percent less arsenic in their blood and liver, and passed 45 percent more arsenic in their urine. The conclusion is that sulfur-containing substances in garlic scavenge arsenic from tissues and blood. The presentation concludes that people in areas at risk of arsenic contamination in the water supply should eat one to three cloves of garlic per day as a preventative.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


Ironically, China is the only country to have set a standard for arsenic limits in food (150 ppb), as levels in rice exceed those in water. It has been found that rice is particularly susceptible to arsenic poisoning. Rice grown in US has an average 260 ppb of arsenic according to a study. That's from the Wiki link above.
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09/19/2012 10:39 PM
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After detecting cancer-causing compound, the agency vows to make further studies a priority. Well, when TSHTF, you'll either starve to death or die from cancer.

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

The FDA's analysis showed average levels of 3.5 to 6.7 micrograms of inorganic arsenic per serving, while Consumer Reports found levels up to 8.7 micrograms. The FDA released 200 samples, while Consumer Reports tested 223.

[link to www.foxnews.com]

And for a bonus on arsenic:

US poultry industry has a disturbing habit of feeding arsenic to chickens. Arsenic, it turns out, helps control a common bug that infects chicken meat, and also gives chicken flesh a pink hue, which the industry thinks consumers want.

[link to www.motherjones.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


well add all that to the tungsten-gold and you've got:

huffy
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09/19/2012 10:49 PM
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This will not be popular with the "non-Jesus" people, but have you ever heard of praying over you're food, asking the LORD to cleanse it, and thanking Him for it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6427313


My first thought too. If we eat or drink anything poisonous it will not harm us, so said God.
But anyways, I didn't see in the article what was causing it, no mention. You'd think that would be mentioned?
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09/19/2012 10:50 PM
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After detecting cancer-causing compound, the agency vows to make further studies a priority. Well, when TSHTF, you'll either starve to death or die from cancer.

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

The FDA's analysis showed average levels of 3.5 to 6.7 micrograms of inorganic arsenic per serving, while Consumer Reports found levels up to 8.7 micrograms. The FDA released 200 samples, while Consumer Reports tested 223.

[link to www.foxnews.com]

And for a bonus on arsenic:

US poultry industry has a disturbing habit of feeding arsenic to chickens. Arsenic, it turns out, helps control a common bug that infects chicken meat, and also gives chicken flesh a pink hue, which the industry thinks consumers want.

[link to www.motherjones.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


well add all that to the tungsten-gold and you've got:

huffy
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chuckle
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09/19/2012 10:53 PM
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They've got acceptable level ranges for concentrations of mucuous that are allowable in the crap dairy mill milk everyone drinks from the supermarket and no one freaks out about that.
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09/19/2012 10:55 PM
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sounds like someone is trying to stop people from stocking up..i guess they really do want to kill us...assholes...

here's to the FDA... skull_fing
 Quoting: eaglewolf


This is the deal. In a few weeks they will have a gmo variety that does not have high arsenic levels. They don't want us stocking up right now. I hope the price goes down and I will buy even more. I have no choice I have to eat gluten free, so it's rice for me.
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09/19/2012 10:57 PM
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OH spread the FEAR!!! There has always been arsenic in rice!!
Its natural and found everywhere in nature...
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09/19/2012 10:59 PM
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OH spread the FEAR!!! There has always been arsenic in rice!!
Its natural and found everywhere in nature...
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Except this is inorganic arsenic and at high doses due to poor farming and industrial practices and it could kill you.

But hey if you think that's natural well yes...dying after eating poison is natural.
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09/19/2012 11:03 PM
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Here ya go.


[link to www.usarice.com]
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09/19/2012 11:24 PM
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You mean the people who are trying to sell you the rice don't want you to worry that the rice is contaminated?!

Well knock me down with a feather!
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09/19/2012 11:33 PM
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Is this how it occurs?

Chickens are fed the arsenic to make the meat 'look better'. Then chicken poop is used for fertilizer in the rice fields, contaminating the rice.
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it's in wheat and oats too.
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US poultry industry has a disturbing habit of feeding arsenic to chickens. Arsenic, it turns out, helps control a common bug that infects chicken meat, and also gives chicken flesh a pink hue, which the industry thinks consumers want.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3738979


What crap. I have 100% natural and organic chickens at my place. I don't feed them, they feed naturally. They also breed naturally (I don't go and buy new ones). The ones I kill for food have pink flesh. No arsenic here.
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OH spread the FEAR!!! There has always been arsenic in rice!!
Its natural and found everywhere in nature...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24087587


Except this is inorganic arsenic and at high doses due to poor farming and industrial practices and it could kill you.

But hey if you think that's natural well yes...dying after eating poison is natural.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3199789


They just dont want to tell you the truth, like usual!!
Its Radiation!!! Arsenic is the cover!!
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Arsenic is people!

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