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A MAN UNKNOWN,... A MAN OF SECRECY.... A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN.

 
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love for you architect is as simple as the love of all,,

moulded in creation indeed,,

much love,,
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he isn't one man or one woman...to say that is to separate the spirit from all whom have the spirit and everyone has the spirit...we were deceived by the world but we have overcame the world...we just need to remember that...this aint our first rodeo or our last one..
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Ego tells us that. The last laugh in the Universe would be to bow down and kneel before "The One".

Cant do it eh? Thats our ego talking..

What if the whole earth was to develop one immortal soul to perfection and the rest of us are bit players, Then its onto the next stage show to perfect another one until its our turn?

Makes us all special, dont you think?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST
...why do you judge it ego to say no one is greater than another for we all have the spirit of the creator, do we not? i was almost deceived by the world then remembered we all existed before the creation and we all helped create the creation before we incarnated into it....
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We all have the spirit, but as God said, Some are vessels for destruction, Some are vessels of life...
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And thought I'd let people know it is a fact that power is more addictive than sex, cocaine, and/or heroin.

P.S. Apollo, are you an official illuminist now?
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so by saying all about that the love of power bring you to do evil things... i don'T beleive it for one second.

it'S what the elites want us to beleive. So we peacefull idiots let them have all the power they want.

They make us fear Having power and control.... And we fall for it!... yeah were dumb.
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Yea.... I never said power makes you do evil things.

I'm alluding to the fact that power entices a man from one side of the fence to the other whether their be evil things on either side.
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And thought I'd let people know it is a fact that power is more addictive than sex, cocaine, and/or heroin.

P.S. Apollo, are you an official illuminist now?
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so by saying all about that the love of power bring you to do evil things... i don'T beleive it for one second.

it'S what the elites want us to beleive. So we peacefull idiots let them have all the power they want.

They make us fear Having power and control.... And we fall for it!... yeah were dumb.
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Yea.... I never said power makes you do evil things.

I'm alluding to the fact that power entices a man from one side of the fence to the other whether their be evil things on either side.
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You guys will have decision time coming up soon. Choose wisely...
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A PLEA FOR MOSHIACH

BY APOLLO


Studies of the Hebrew Prophecies..


Moshiach is Hebrew for Messiah. Moshiach means the “the anointed one" in Hebrew. And it is a core belief in Judaism, but seldom learned by Christians of the West. Those that have faith in Moshiach feel it as strongly as Christians have faith in Jesus. The jewish people do not believe Jesus was the Messiah, rather they see the future Savior of Mankind as a great teacher, King and Soldier of Righteousness, "Tzedek" that influences our lives directly, making abudance touch wherever he touches and blessings to shower our material world and build his temple "Beit HaMikdash" We do not have to wait to out death to ever have hope of seeing Moshiach, Moshiach will not appear to us after we pass this earthly time, He is to come while humanity is alive and calling out !

"Tikkun Olam" is the healing of the world in the world to come, "Olam Habah"

You do not have to be a Jew to let Moshiach bless your life, cause he will free mankind into a state of bliss knowing their creator G-d who cannot have a name, He is the infallible one, the one whose name. (HaShem) is beyond our limited understand, but we may draw close to him none the less. He does not cast souls into hell. forbid the study of stars, nor say this earth is beyond redemption, G-d wants us to be happy now ! And enjoy the fruitages of earth now !

Here is the Belief number 12 of the Mainmonides Thirteen Principles of Faith That speaks of Moshiach

Principle XII. The era of the Messiah

And this is to believe that in truth that he will come and that you should be waiting for him even though he delays in coming. And you should not calculate times for him to come, or to look in the verses of Tanach to see when he should come. The sages say: The wisdom of those who calculate times [of his coming] is small and that you should believe that he will be greater and more honored than all of the kings of Israel since the beginning of time as it is prophesied by all the prophets from Moses our teacher, peace be upon him, until Malachi, peace be upon him. And he who doubts or diminishes the greatness of the Messiah is a denier in all the Torah for it testifies to the Messiah explicitly in the portion of Bilam and the portion of “You are gathered (towards the end of Deut)”. And part of this principle that there is no king of Israel except from the house of David and from the seed of Solomon alone. And anyone who disputes this regarding this family is a denier of the name of God and in all the words of the prophets.

Heaven is here on earth, The Tanach describes the temple.in II Chronicles.

3:3- "The length by cubits after the ancient measure was threescore cubits, and the breadth twenty cubits".
3:4- "And the porch that was before the house, the length of it, according to the breadth of the house, was twenty cubits, and the height a hundred and twenty; and he overlaid it within with pure gold."

And likewise , we shall have beautiful sound homes and dwelling places and food and peace when the Moshiach touches our lives and blesses us with the bounty. God did not want us to lack in anything .

QOUTE:

In every generation there is a scion of the House of David who has the potential to be the Moshiach



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....he is....the most interesting man in the world.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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....he is....the most interesting man in the world.
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Thor, he will be indeed..

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Though he tarry, nonetheless I await him every day that he will come.. Principles of the faith..
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A MAN UNKNOWN



With respect to his arising, he will not be known beforehand until it is declared to him... a man, unknown prior to his manifestation, shall rise, and the signs and wonders that will come about through him will be the proof for the authenticity of his claim and pedigree. ..

"The Principle of Mashiach, and the Messianic Era


COMMENTARY BY APOLLO:
Who is this man that they look for? Moshiach, Mashiach...is the Hebrew term for Messiah. In the Jewish lands they did not believe that Jesus was the prophecied one, rather they look for a man to come, who has not yet come or showed himself. When he does appear, he is to be crowned to usher in a new world .


A MAN OF SECRECY:



QOUTE:

Although Moshiach's identity may be secret, ancient prophetic passages provide clues to his identity. This web site will focus on the "peshat-simple" and the "sod or secret" nature of the coming son of David.There is no greater mystery than the identity of Moshiach ben David. Moshiach who is represented by the number "8" waits in hiding. He peeks through the windows and peers through the crevices not wanting to be seen, behaving as if he's ashamed of his appearance. Why does he hide his face from the Jewish community? What is he waiting for? Why doesn't he come already?Unfortunately, he is in no spiritual condition to make himself known.


A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN:



Why does Moshiach "tarry" or procrastinate? In the Tenach, ha sefer Shir haShirim 2:9 [Song of Songs] we are given insight into the early relationship between Moshiach and his bride Israel.Lack of knowledge from the chosen people prevents Moshiach from making his appearance.Why is Moshiach concealed and hidden among the gentiles? Could it have been the Holocaust or some other tragic event that lead to the concealment of the son of David? It's any ones guess what might have triggered the separation but one thing is for certain, in the latter days just prior to the revelation of Moshiach the son of David is a resident of Edom.At last Moshiach makes his appearance! The one who was previously standing behind the lattice is now spiritually strong enough to knock at her door. Why does Moshiach knock? Only a stranger knocks before entering. The owner of the house will not quickly open to a stranger. Moshiach will have severed all religious allegiance with Edom/Christianity (see Modern day Edom) but his love for the people in the Christian community will never be extinguished

[link to birthpangsofmoshiach.blogspot.com]


In the principles of faith it says. " I believe with complete faith in the coming of the Mashiach, Though he tarry, nonetheless I await him every day that he will come"



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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Apollo, where did these prophecies originate?
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Its been Cherished Jewish Prophecy for thousands of years, But the Christian community has been in a elaborate scheme to cover it up and slander it..
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I'm sorry, I don't know a lot about that area. Does this come from one particular prophet, or is Moshiach mentioned in more than one place?
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To new believers, when you research Moshiach/Mashiach on the web, stay away from the Yeshua Moshiach posts.. They are not recognized by those that have kept this prophecy alive. Those that post Yeshuah Moshiach are hijackers..

Please read reputable sources...
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Apollo, this part gets a little confusing. Will he find out who he is before others do? Or, will others know before he finds out?

he will not be known beforehand until it is declared to him

It's really not that clear.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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And would you kneel before an ordinary man, Apollo ?
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He will be no ordinary man, he will be infused with the Ibbur Tzedek...

Mashiachs soul will go into a living Tzedek..

As explained by Iyun Harishon and Ya akov Emden and the Shemot Rabba and the Devarim Rabba..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST
there is no soul, stop with the worlds lies..we all are spirit but those lies smother the light within...why do you seek to smother the spirit with the lies of the world?
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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A MAN UNKNOWN



With respect to his arising, he will not be known beforehand until it is declared to him... a man, unknown prior to his manifestation, shall rise, and the signs and wonders that will come about through him will be the proof for the authenticity of his claim and pedigree. ..

"The Principle of Mashiach, and the Messianic Era


COMMENTARY BY APOLLO:
Who is this man that they look for? Moshiach, Mashiach...is the Hebrew term for Messiah. In the Jewish lands they did not believe that Jesus was the prophecied one, rather they look for a man to come, who has not yet come or showed himself. When he does appear, he is to be crowned to usher in a new world .


A MAN OF SECRECY:



QOUTE:

Although Moshiach's identity may be secret, ancient prophetic passages provide clues to his identity. This web site will focus on the "peshat-simple" and the "sod or secret" nature of the coming son of David.There is no greater mystery than the identity of Moshiach ben David. Moshiach who is represented by the number "8" waits in hiding. He peeks through the windows and peers through the crevices not wanting to be seen, behaving as if he's ashamed of his appearance. Why does he hide his face from the Jewish community? What is he waiting for? Why doesn't he come already?Unfortunately, he is in no spiritual condition to make himself known.


A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN:



Why does Moshiach "tarry" or procrastinate? In the Tenach, ha sefer Shir haShirim 2:9 [Song of Songs] we are given insight into the early relationship between Moshiach and his bride Israel.Lack of knowledge from the chosen people prevents Moshiach from making his appearance.Why is Moshiach concealed and hidden among the gentiles? Could it have been the Holocaust or some other tragic event that lead to the concealment of the son of David? It's any ones guess what might have triggered the separation but one thing is for certain, in the latter days just prior to the revelation of Moshiach the son of David is a resident of Edom.At last Moshiach makes his appearance! The one who was previously standing behind the lattice is now spiritually strong enough to knock at her door. Why does Moshiach knock? Only a stranger knocks before entering. The owner of the house will not quickly open to a stranger. Moshiach will have severed all religious allegiance with Edom/Christianity (see Modern day Edom) but his love for the people in the Christian community will never be extinguished

[link to birthpangsofmoshiach.blogspot.com]


In the principles of faith it says. " I believe with complete faith in the coming of the Mashiach, Though he tarry, nonetheless I await him every day that he will come"



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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Apollo, where did these prophecies originate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24059808


Its been Cherished Jewish Prophecy for thousands of years, But the Christian community has been in a elaborate scheme to cover it up and slander it..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I'm sorry, I don't know a lot about that area. Does this come from one particular prophet, or is Moshiach mentioned in more than one place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24059808


It is the Foundation of Jewish Law and Tradition, One of the thirteen principles of Jewish faith. and the teachings of Moses and the Prophets.

Unfortunately in the West, Jewish tradition is drowned out and not very well known.
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Don't worry. Apollo is right about so many things involving Astro-theology and esoteric occultism.

So he has great info about the comming of the Son of Perdition.

Apollo just got caught up in the hype and chose the wrong moshiac.

This is the reason God warned the Israelites of divination and sorcery. Mediums, astrologists and the like.

Not that it's inherintly evil to talk with them but because you will be decieved by the power and chase false gods that cannot save you from the true God's judgement.

Jesus Christ was/is/will always be the real messiah. The messiah was not destined to come to earth to make you're earthly life more pleasurable to you. Get over yourself.

What you claim as accension is actually the path to decension. (not you Apollo, just speaking to some of the esoteric crowd in general)

I don't have your evidence for this but...
As above, definitely no so below.

Deception complete.
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LOL.. so when all twelve tribes had to camp out via their zodiac sign.. and when the High Priests used the divination stones of Urim and Thummin, and when a Rabbi attempted the magickal work of the Golum making, you think they are warlocks or witches?

SHAME ON YOU !

Many Jewish People cherish the mystical part of Kabbalah as well.

And go ahead , bring on your witch hunt....Im not putting up with hatred of Jewish people anymore. This isnt right, to pick on their culture and to slander the poor families waiting on a King..but everything is lost to them in 70 AD.

Shame, shame, shame

Lies, lies, lies..
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I don't hate Jewish people you liar. And I clearly explained that the problem with divination is not inherant.

There is sin that is hindrance to one man but destruction to another. It is not black and white.

Divination is not even a hindrance. The issue as I originally stated is that a man by himself seeking these things can be enticed by the power and not all spirits tell the truth.

He opens himself up to believe sayings from spirits that have rebelled against their creator who holds all truth.

That is my viewpoint which you adeptly misrepresented.

The occult loves solomon. He was the wisest man that ever lived and new everything about commanding spirits. Perhaps they should learn what he learned. After every endulgence that could be comprehended he learned the truth.

EVERYTHING IS MEANINGLESS. The only thing for a man in this world is to eat, drink, be happy with his toil and labor and to have fellowship with God.

That is the lot appointed for man to have. The wisest man in the world figured that out and came back to God before his death. And yet the occultists cherrypick what they like about Solomon's wisdom. Why? There is no power in eating and drinking and being happy with their work. And they despise the true God. Though they love gods.

P.S. God explained that " 'they' prefer the lie". Don't be surprised that the scripture is built to allow open interpretation based upon the readers heart. For what is it again that God searches out?
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Here is what the fundies hide from you..

WHOLE JEWISH PAGE ON MOSHIACH

[link to bethaderech.com]
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....he is....the most interesting man in the world.
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Thor, he will be indeed..

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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST
...look, just because i got 2 capital block T's that look like hammers doesn't mean I'm better than any of my fellow creators...i will not separate the spirit of the creator as souls did leaving out the divine feminine nature of the creator in the scriptures and corrupted it.....

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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And would you kneel before an ordinary man, Apollo ?
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He will be no ordinary man, he will be infused with the Ibbur Tzedek...

Mashiachs soul will go into a living Tzedek..

As explained by Iyun Harishon and Ya akov Emden and the Shemot Rabba and the Devarim Rabba..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


And he's a " nobody " and " a nothing ", and an ordinary man by all practical appearances.

So would you prostrate yourself before a man who didn't even know he was supposed to be " the messiah " ?

Do you think that would make him feel uncomfortable, being a " nobody " his whole life, then having people want to pander to him ?

Can you answer my original question ?
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Here is what the fundies hide from you..

WHOLE JEWISH PAGE ON MOSHIACH

[link to bethaderech.com]
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


EXCERPT FROM WEBSITE

Do you really want Mashiach Now? Many people have that cry in their lips, but do not mean it. In the Amida which is a set of prayers composed by eighteen different prayers, we find at the end of it a prayer asking for Mashiach to come, to reveal Himself
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brb...
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he isn't one man or one woman...to say that is to separate the spirit from all whom have the spirit and everyone has the spirit...we were deceived by the world but we have overcame the world...we just need to remember that...this aint our first rodeo or our last one..
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Ego tells us that. The last laugh in the Universe would be to bow down and kneel before "The One".

Cant do it eh? Thats our ego talking..

What if the whole earth was to develop one immortal soul to perfection and the rest of us are bit players, Then its onto the next stage show to perfect another one until its our turn?

Makes us all special, dont you think?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST
...why do you judge it ego to say no one is greater than another for we all have the spirit of the creator, do we not? i was almost deceived by the world then remembered we all existed before the creation and we all helped create the creation before we incarnated into it....
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


We all have the spirit, but as God said, Some are vessels for destruction, Some are vessels of life...
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST
as the spirit says, god is a liar if god doesn't acknowledge the goddess aspect of the Creator..stop listening to liars called only god..if it says god says then its a lie,if it says the creator says it it can be taken with a grain of salt..it is the male ego who will not acknowledge the creator as both god and goddess..therefore it is lies of souls who say the word god instead of creator..for its written, they worship the creation instead of the creator..they are souls whom dont remember the spirit within and when it existed..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/19/2012 10:08 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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hey apollo....

i read your threads and you flitter around some relevant topics for sure.

but, it seems to me that you pull pages from vast library's of historical mythology that seem self-serving at best.

as for this mosiach guy....

IF he was to JUDGE, do you think one particular people or group would be spared?

OR...do you think his JUDGEMENT would be absolute, all-encompassing and perfect in every way?
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the most interesting piece of the information is how perfectly correct,, the artist was able,, too paint those in the mural,, even down the detail of clothing,,

and yet also so imperfectly correct at painting the child,,

a deliberate error no doubt,,

that which is hidden is often contrived thus,, for good reason,,


much love,,
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hey apollo....

i read your threads and you flitter around some relevant topics for sure.

but, it seems to me that you pull pages from vast library's of historical mythology that seem self-serving at best.

as for this mosiach guy....

IF he was to JUDGE, do you think one particular people or group would be spared?

OR...do you think his JUDGEMENT would be absolute, all-encompassing and perfect in every way?
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the only judgement will be another hard life here if you dont remember being the creator in this life..the other creator's have authority over you every incarnation if you dont take your place with us...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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And would you kneel before an ordinary man, Apollo ?
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He will be no ordinary man, he will be infused with the Ibbur Tzedek...

Mashiachs soul will go into a living Tzedek..

As explained by Iyun Harishon and Ya akov Emden and the Shemot Rabba and the Devarim Rabba..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


And he's a " nobody " and " a nothing ", and an ordinary man by all practical appearances.

So would you prostrate yourself before a man who didn't even know he was supposed to be " the messiah " ?

Do you think that would make him feel uncomfortable, being a " nobody " his whole life, then having people want to pander to him ?

Can you answer my original question ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


And what makes you think your " messiah " would pop up in the middle of a warzone ?

popcorn
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Here is what the fundies hide from you..

WHOLE JEWISH PAGE ON MOSHIACH

[link to bethaderech.com]
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST
they are also liars and believers in the soul instead of the spirit which we all are and have existed before the creation...the shell is an ark on our incarnations back into the creation to learn but we must remember we are above the creation,all of us not just one..

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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he isn't one man or one woman...to say that is to separate the spirit from all whom have the spirit and everyone has the spirit...we were deceived by the world but we have overcame the world...we just need to remember that...this aint our first rodeo or our last one..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Ego tells us that. The last laugh in the Universe would be to bow down and kneel before "The One".

Cant do it eh? Thats our ego talking..

What if the whole earth was to develop one immortal soul to perfection and the rest of us are bit players, Then its onto the next stage show to perfect another one until its our turn?

Makes us all special, dont you think?
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Such would certainly be an expression of the power of the human collective.

To call into being a soul which could aid them to navigate the waters of life.

Though my guess is that none need bow down, except in the metaphorical.

This is where any prophecy becomes sketchy - in the imagery interpretation versus the literal.
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Don't worry. Apollo is right about so many things involving Astro-theology and esoteric occultism.

So he has great info about the comming of the Son of Perdition.

Apollo just got caught up in the hype and chose the wrong moshiac.

This is the reason God warned the Israelites of divination and sorcery. Mediums, astrologists and the like.

Not that it's inherintly evil to talk with them but because you will be decieved by the power and chase false gods that cannot save you from the true God's judgement.

Jesus Christ was/is/will always be the real messiah. The messiah was not destined to come to earth to make you're earthly life more pleasurable to you. Get over yourself.

What you claim as accension is actually the path to decension. (not you Apollo, just speaking to some of the esoteric crowd in general)

I don't have your evidence for this but...
As above, definitely no so below.

Deception complete.
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LOL.. so when all twelve tribes had to camp out via their zodiac sign.. and when the High Priests used the divination stones of Urim and Thummin, and when a Rabbi attempted the magickal work of the Golum making, you think they are warlocks or witches?

SHAME ON YOU !

Many Jewish People cherish the mystical part of Kabbalah as well.

And go ahead , bring on your witch hunt....Im not putting up with hatred of Jewish people anymore. This isnt right, to pick on their culture and to slander the poor families waiting on a King..but everything is lost to them in 70 AD.

Shame, shame, shame

Lies, lies, lies..
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Absolutely right Apollo. 100%
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Don't worry. Apollo is right about so many things involving Astro-theology and esoteric occultism.

So he has great info about the comming of the Son of Perdition.

Apollo just got caught up in the hype and chose the wrong moshiac.

This is the reason God warned the Israelites of divination and sorcery. Mediums, astrologists and the like.

Not that it's inherintly evil to talk with them but because you will be decieved by the power and chase false gods that cannot save you from the true God's judgement.

Jesus Christ was/is/will always be the real messiah. The messiah was not destined to come to earth to make you're earthly life more pleasurable to you. Get over yourself.

What you claim as accension is actually the path to decension. (not you Apollo, just speaking to some of the esoteric crowd in general)

I don't have your evidence for this but...
As above, definitely no so below.

Deception complete.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23558099


LOL.. so when all twelve tribes had to camp out via their zodiac sign.. and when the High Priests used the divination stones of Urim and Thummin, and when a Rabbi attempted the magickal work of the Golum making, you think they are warlocks or witches?

SHAME ON YOU !

Many Jewish People cherish the mystical part of Kabbalah as well.

And go ahead , bring on your witch hunt....Im not putting up with hatred of Jewish people anymore. This isnt right, to pick on their culture and to slander the poor families waiting on a King..but everything is lost to them in 70 AD.

Shame, shame, shame

Lies, lies, lies..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I don't hate Jewish people you liar. And I clearly explained that the problem with divination is not inherant.

There is sin that is hindrance to one man but destruction to another. It is not black and white.

Divination is not even a hindrance. The issue as I originally stated is that a man by himself seeking these things can be enticed by the power and not all spirits tell the truth.

He opens himself up to believe sayings from spirits that have rebelled against their creator who holds all truth.

That is my viewpoint which you adeptly misrepresented.

The occult loves solomon. He was the wisest man that ever lived and new everything about commanding spirits. Perhaps they should learn what he learned. After every endulgence that could be comprehended he learned the truth.

EVERYTHING IS MEANINGLESS. The only thing for a man in this world is to eat, drink, be happy with his toil and labor and to have fellowship with God.

That is the lot appointed for man to have. The wisest man in the world figured that out and came back to God before his death. And yet the occultists cherrypick what they like about Solomon's wisdom. Why? There is no power in eating and drinking and being happy with their work. And they despise the true God. Though they love gods.

P.S. God explained that " 'they' prefer the lie". Don't be surprised that the scripture is built to allow open interpretation based upon the readers heart. For what is it again that God searches out?
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No, you may not hate the Jewish people, But you hate the ways of Moses Moshe who taught us the Kabbalah ! and the ways of reading the stars, He smashed the Golden Calf cause it was not the Aeon of Taurus anymore but the Aeon of Aries ! He was a feisty Aries that smashed the first plate of commandments as well..

The Christians have lied about the sorceries etc, many Rabbis know how to go into trance and receive messages from spirit world

Remember your translation comes down from Constantine and his Council of Nicaea.
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Don't worry. Apollo is right about so many things involving Astro-theology and esoteric occultism.

So he has great info about the comming of the Son of Perdition.

Apollo just got caught up in the hype and chose the wrong moshiac.

This is the reason God warned the Israelites of divination and sorcery. Mediums, astrologists and the like.

Not that it's inherintly evil to talk with them but because you will be decieved by the power and chase false gods that cannot save you from the true God's judgement.

Jesus Christ was/is/will always be the real messiah. The messiah was not destined to come to earth to make you're earthly life more pleasurable to you. Get over yourself.

What you claim as accension is actually the path to decension. (not you Apollo, just speaking to some of the esoteric crowd in general)

I don't have your evidence for this but...
As above, definitely no so below.

Deception complete.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23558099


LOL.. so when all twelve tribes had to camp out via their zodiac sign.. and when the High Priests used the divination stones of Urim and Thummin, and when a Rabbi attempted the magickal work of the Golum making, you think they are warlocks or witches?

SHAME ON YOU !

Many Jewish People cherish the mystical part of Kabbalah as well.

And go ahead , bring on your witch hunt....Im not putting up with hatred of Jewish people anymore. This isnt right, to pick on their culture and to slander the poor families waiting on a King..but everything is lost to them in 70 AD.

Shame, shame, shame

Lies, lies, lies..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Absolutely right Apollo. 100%
 Quoting: Top Hat
there are no tribes, no religions ,no separatists,no free or bond...there is only the spirit and the creation..it is the world and souls whom cause division...choose whom you are of this day,souls or the spirit?..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Don't worry. Apollo is right about so many things involving Astro-theology and esoteric occultism.

So he has great info about the comming of the Son of Perdition.

Apollo just got caught up in the hype and chose the wrong moshiac.

This is the reason God warned the Israelites of divination and sorcery. Mediums, astrologists and the like.

Not that it's inherintly evil to talk with them but because you will be decieved by the power and chase false gods that cannot save you from the true God's judgement.

Jesus Christ was/is/will always be the real messiah. The messiah was not destined to come to earth to make you're earthly life more pleasurable to you. Get over yourself.

What you claim as accension is actually the path to decension. (not you Apollo, just speaking to some of the esoteric crowd in general)

I don't have your evidence for this but...
As above, definitely no so below.

Deception complete.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23558099


LOL.. so when all twelve tribes had to camp out via their zodiac sign.. and when the High Priests used the divination stones of Urim and Thummin, and when a Rabbi attempted the magickal work of the Golum making, you think they are warlocks or witches?

SHAME ON YOU !

Many Jewish People cherish the mystical part of Kabbalah as well.

And go ahead , bring on your witch hunt....Im not putting up with hatred of Jewish people anymore. This isnt right, to pick on their culture and to slander the poor families waiting on a King..but everything is lost to them in 70 AD.

Shame, shame, shame

Lies, lies, lies..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Absolutely right Apollo. 100%
 Quoting: Top Hat


I can imagine pickup lines back then:

"Hey baby, I see the future in my jewels, and my jewels are in your future... heh heh heh..."

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