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A MAN UNKNOWN,... A MAN OF SECRECY.... A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN.

 
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Whats really, really disturbing is the decades of Anti Semitism attacks calling the Moshiach the Anti Christ, or the devil, or satan or Lucifer or the evil Illuminati

Its a shame that Anti semitism has gone on for this long..
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Well why don't we all leave the past behind us and play a new tune. Together?
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Ive been willing to do this, yes, Thats why Ive been trained in Roman mythology and trying to hook Christians up to their TRUE origins of Roman mythology. Therefore we can all learn together. and meet on solid ground.
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Then we can agree. But let's not do it for the children that have died. Let's do it for the children that deserve to LIVE.
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Agreed ! Most of my posts are trying my best to unify, This post was solely about teaching, Few in the west know of Jewish Principles of faith. But yes, our future generations will know a world without borders..
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interesting to watch the thread go from a mosiach (Sp) who will save the israelis on their terms to the alpha/omega who is his own man in 16 pages.

this guy must be quite the jester

wonder who he'll be tomorrow?

popcorn


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You do know the story of the Prodigal Son right? And how the Ibbur goes into Tzedek?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


i've heard a bit about the prodigal son. ibbur tzedek sounds like a game show host.

but i'll read up on that
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An Ibbur is usually a righteous spirit that goes into a person worthy of receiving its help. Most people believe that Moshe will return into a host body. BUT
sometimes both the Ibbur and Tzedek host teach eachother. Moshes for example was too headstrong and thus wasnt allowed to enter into the promised land ..
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Well why don't we all leave the past behind us and play a new tune. Together?
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Ive been willing to do this, yes, Thats why Ive been trained in Roman mythology and trying to hook Christians up to their TRUE origins of Roman mythology. Therefore we can all learn together. and meet on solid ground.
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Then we can agree. But let's not do it for the children that have died. Let's do it for the children that deserve to LIVE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24094520


Agreed ! Most of my posts are trying my best to unify, This post was solely about teaching, Few in the west know of Jewish Principles of faith. But yes, our future generations will know a world without borders..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Please forgive me if i still ask to see the Jewish people ending this false war before i visit them. I have dove into many cultures, and found the core of truth that unites them with all others. I look forward to seeing what that core is with your people, and bringing it to the light of day for all to see.

But reading is not enough, so people will have to teach me. By example. Show me your peoples heart.
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Mikey, yes ! Read about the Horn of Amalthea and the She Goat held by Auriga the shepard. Secrets will be there. I havent found anyone spilling the secrets anywhere on the web cause its not allowed, but others can look for clues..
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I'm all over it.

scheming
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NO WAY!!!!

unseen

That was very Illuminating!

ohno

Thanks Apollo Illuminist.

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An Ibbur is usually a righteous spirit that goes into a person worthy of receiving its help. Most people believe that Moshe will return into a host body. BUT
sometimes both the Ibbur and Tzedek host teach eachother. Moshes for example was too headstrong and thus wasnt allowed to enter into the promised land ..
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no.

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interesting to watch the thread go from a mosiach (Sp) who will save the israelis on their terms to the alpha/omega who is his own man in 16 pages.

this guy must be quite the jester

wonder who he'll be tomorrow?

popcorn


 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


You do know the story of the Prodigal Son right? And how the Ibbur goes into Tzedek?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


i've heard a bit about the prodigal son. ibbur tzedek sounds like a game show host.

but i'll read up on that
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


An Ibbur is usually a righteous spirit that goes into a person worthy of receiving its help. Most people believe that Moshe will return into a host body. BUT
sometimes both the Ibbur and Tzedek host teach eachother. Moshes for example was too headstrong and thus wasnt allowed to enter into the promised land ..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


God knows what a man will be prepared to give up to help his family. I could have walked out, you know. But the ones that came before me...

I knew i had to honor their service too.
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With respect to his arising, he will not be known beforehand until it is declared to him... a man, unknown prior to his manifestation, shall rise, and the signs and wonders that will come about through him will be the proof for the authenticity of his claim and pedigree. ..

"The Principle of Mashiach, and the Messianic Era



A MAN OF SECRECY:



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Although Moshiach's identity may be secret, ancient prophetic passages provide clues to his identity. This web site will focus on the "peshat-simple" and the "sod or secret" nature of the coming son of David.There is no greater mystery than the identity of Moshiach ben David. Moshiach who is represented by the number "8" waits in hiding. He peeks through the windows and peers through the crevices not wanting to be seen, behaving as if he's ashamed of his appearance. Why does he hide his face from the Jewish community? What is he waiting for? Why doesn't he come already?Unfortunately, he is in no spiritual condition to make himself known.


A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN:



Why does Moshiach "tarry" or procrastinate? In the Tenach, ha sefer Shir haShirim 2:9 [Song of Songs] we are given insight into the early relationship between Moshiach and his bride Israel.Lack of knowledge from the chosen people prevents Moshiach from making his appearance.Why is Moshiach concealed and hidden among the gentiles? Could it have been the Holocaust or some other tragic event that lead to the concealment of the son of David? It's any ones guess what might have triggered the separation but one thing is for certain, in the latter days just prior to the revelation of Moshiach the son of David is a resident of Edom.At last Moshiach makes his appearance! The one who was previously standing behind the lattice is now spiritually strong enough to knock at her door. Why does Moshiach knock? Only a stranger knocks before entering. The owner of the house will not quickly open to a stranger. Moshiach will have severed all religious allegiance with Edom/Christianity (see Modern day Edom) but his love for the people in the Christian community will never be extinguished

[link to birthpangsofmoshiach.blogspot.com]


In the principles of faith it says. " I believe with complete faith in the coming of the Mashiach, Though he tarry, nonetheless I await him every day that he will come"



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COMMENTARY BY APOLLO:
Who is this man that they look for? Moshiach, Mashiach...is the Hebrew term for Messiah. In the Jewish lands they did not believe that Jesus was the prophecied one, rather they look for a man to come, who has not yet come or showed himself. When he does appear, he is to be crowned to usher in a new world .
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You have been peddling this shit for a long time.

And all of your prediction are EPIC FAIL!

Cmon dude, reality gonna set in sometime. All those useless years of study will eventuate to nothing because it means nothing in the World of the living and reality.

I will leave a couple of reserves of Strait jacket for you.

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"Moshes for example was too headstrong"

No wonder he had horns.

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I am happy to share what i know with people that will use it for good balance. I want what you want. Freedom to have a good honest life, a wife, maybe a couple of kids and then to die gracefully, naturally with whoever i shared that with. I do not want my life watched, or controlled, or tied to any crown.

Please, find another clown. My mission can be done without ever being acknowledged. Please respect that if you can.

I'll be watching.
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Ive been willing to do this, yes, Thats why Ive been trained in Roman mythology and trying to hook Christians up to their TRUE origins of Roman mythology. Therefore we can all learn together. and meet on solid ground.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Then we can agree. But let's not do it for the children that have died. Let's do it for the children that deserve to LIVE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24094520


Agreed ! Most of my posts are trying my best to unify, This post was solely about teaching, Few in the west know of Jewish Principles of faith. But yes, our future generations will know a world without borders..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Please forgive me if i still ask to see the Jewish people ending this false war before i visit them. I have dove into many cultures, and found the core of truth that unites them with all others. I look forward to seeing what that core is with your people, and bringing it to the light of day for all to see.

But reading is not enough, so people will have to teach me. By example. Show me your peoples heart.
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Thank you friend ! Their heart will shine with Illuminism when they see the man before their eyes and they will be able to touch his face and see that our dreams do come true. He will be the glue that unites us all !
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Mikey, yes ! Read about the Horn of Amalthea and the She Goat held by Auriga the shepard. Secrets will be there. I havent found anyone spilling the secrets anywhere on the web cause its not allowed, but others can look for clues..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I'm all over it.

scheming
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NO WAY!!!!

:unseen:

That was very Illuminating!

ohno

Thanks Apollo Illuminist.

grinning
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Mikey, you were supposed to turn Safe Search on. lol

Just kidding..

I cant wait to see your slides !


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An Ibbur is usually a righteous spirit that goes into a person worthy of receiving its help. Most people believe that Moshe will return into a host body. BUT
sometimes both the Ibbur and Tzedek host teach eachother. Moshes for example was too headstrong and thus wasnt allowed to enter into the promised land ..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


no.


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Wednesday, March 7, 2012
Ki Sisa - Secret of the Ibbur
How do we understand the great disparity between Moshe receiving the Torah at the very moment the Jewish people are worshipping the Golden Calf? This is especially difficult in light of the fact that Moshe is the combining soul of the Jewish people. How does this connect to the miracle of Purim? What is the concept of the twelve and thirteen tribes and the twelve and thirteen months of the year? Why does the miracle of Purim occur in Adar? What is the significance of the fish as its zodiac sign? What is the spiritual concept of the fish?
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Then we can agree. But let's not do it for the children that have died. Let's do it for the children that deserve to LIVE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24094520


Agreed ! Most of my posts are trying my best to unify, This post was solely about teaching, Few in the west know of Jewish Principles of faith. But yes, our future generations will know a world without borders..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Please forgive me if i still ask to see the Jewish people ending this false war before i visit them. I have dove into many cultures, and found the core of truth that unites them with all others. I look forward to seeing what that core is with your people, and bringing it to the light of day for all to see.

But reading is not enough, so people will have to teach me. By example. Show me your peoples heart.
 Quoting: Star2Finish 24094520


Thank you friend ! Their heart will shine with Illuminism when they see the man before their eyes and they will be able to touch his face and see that our dreams do come true. He will be the glue that unites us all !
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Then go forth with the spirit of truth and spread your words of peace. Words can end wars. You are the change you want to see.

Blessings on those that serve free spirit.
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An Ibbur is usually a righteous spirit that goes into a person worthy of receiving its help. Most people believe that Moshe will return into a host body. BUT
sometimes both the Ibbur and Tzedek host teach eachother. Moshes for example was too headstrong and thus wasnt allowed to enter into the promised land ..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


no.


 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


QOUTE:

Absorption of Another Soul: Ibbur by Mark Elber

The word ibbur was originally used interchangeably with gilgul as a term for transmigration of the soul. Over time it came to have a separate, but related, meaning. Ibbur implies “transferring” and the word is also used to mean “conception.” The same root is used for pregnancy, fetus, and related words.

As the meaning of ibbur separated from gilgul, it came to refer to a soul that inhabits another body for a limited period of time, as in a pregnancy, in contrast to a gilgul, in which a soul is in a new body for the life of that body. Usually there were two purposes that Kabbalists attributed to an ibbur temporarily entering a body. One was to fulfill some mitzvot or tasks that the soul had not completed in its previous lifetime. The other was to help a particular person to carry out a task for which this visiting soul was particularly known.

Though an ibbur is a temporary resident, the length of time the additional soul may inhabit another's body could last years. Primarily the ibbur was there for positive reasons, to bring strength, goodness, and aid in the performance of mitzvot.
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I read a very good book on prophecy that I think many would enjoy it's called "Enigmatic Sunrise Todays Prophetic Secrets Revealed" and it talks about the last day moshiach. Here is one example: The story of Joseph..as christian people are taught that Joseph represents Jesus because the coat of many colors was dipped in goat's blood..the colors represent the many nations and the blood sacrificial of
what Jesus did on calvary. The Pharoah symbolic of GOD the Father and position of greatest authority on earth. Lets consider another idea involving 3 entities. Jesus
represents pharoah, as pharoah was the ruler of the greatest authority on earth at the time.He was also the provider of the bread and nourishment for the life of men. Joseph correctly interpreted the 7 year famine of food, saving the people from physical starvation. This is a foreshadow of the 7 year tribulation when this Joseph(moshiach) will rise up and save the people from spiritual starvation. When Joseph appeared before Pharoah, Joseph told pharoah that God made these things known to him. If Pharoah was symbolic of God, as has been taught by people today then Joseph would have responded "you pharoah, God have given me the interpretation of the dream!" So the first entity is GOD, as Joseph mentions GOD gave him the interpretation. The second entity is Pharoah, symbolic of the ruler of the kingdom and the source of life during the last seven years of the interpreted spiritual famine. A
type of bread of life or another name for Jesus, and he was the head of the kingdom. The third entity was Joseph himself, a servant to pharoah and, King of the kingdom. Pharoah appointed Joseph secondary head of the kingdom. Joseph became leader and commander through his witness, for he correctly interpreted the dream, and by his witness saved many from death. Not by his sacrifice as was the case Jesus bearing the cross, but by his, Josephs' witness was many saved! Considering the blood of a goat on the coat of many colors. Jesus is not symbolic of the goat of God but he is the Lamb of GOD! why not the blood of a lamb if it was to symbolize Jesus or a ram at least a ram is a male sheep. A goat is a ruminant mammal related to the sheep, this is symbolic of the gentiles! Again we are dealing with a goat even depicted in the story of Jacob, covering his hands, works in goatskin! Did God direct Josephs' brothers to the goat and not to a lamb by mistake? Was God confused and couldn't find a sheep at the time, or perhaps he forgot the difference between a sheep and a goat! I think not!
Even as Joseph's brothers chose the blood of a goat and rejected the blood of a lamb. Even so would come the time when Joseph's brothers the jewish people, would for a second time reject the blood of the Lamb Of GOD! The blood is not the significant thing here it is what the blood symbolizes this is significant!The Word of God states the life of man is in the blood (Gen.9:4-6)....this is just a small portion
of this book..I would recommend it to everyone...it shows this last day moshiach very clearly. I believe this book came out in 2006.
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Nobody else can see this Joseph being the last day hidden moshiach?
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An Ibbur is usually a righteous spirit that goes into a person worthy of receiving its help. Most people believe that Moshe will return into a host body. BUT
sometimes both the Ibbur and Tzedek host teach eachother. Moshes for example was too headstrong and thus wasnt allowed to enter into the promised land ..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


no.


 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


QOUTE:

Absorption of Another Soul: Ibbur by Mark Elber

The word ibbur was originally used interchangeably with gilgul as a term for transmigration of the soul. Over time it came to have a separate, but related, meaning. Ibbur implies “transferring” and the word is also used to mean “conception.” The same root is used for pregnancy, fetus, and related words.

As the meaning of ibbur separated from gilgul, it came to refer to a soul that inhabits another body for a limited period of time, as in a pregnancy, in contrast to a gilgul, in which a soul is in a new body for the life of that body. Usually there were two purposes that Kabbalists attributed to an ibbur temporarily entering a body. One was to fulfill some mitzvot or tasks that the soul had not completed in its previous lifetime. The other was to help a particular person to carry out a task for which this visiting soul was particularly known.

Though an ibbur is a temporary resident, the length of time the additional soul may inhabit another's body could last years. Primarily the ibbur was there for positive reasons, to bring strength, goodness, and aid in the performance of mitzvot.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I sought the permanent. Keep those prayers of love coming. You may not always get an answer, but they are always heard.

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if you want to play musical chairs with your own soul, that's your prerogative.

me, i just say no.
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An Ibbur is usually a righteous spirit that goes into a person worthy of receiving its help. Most people believe that Moshe will return into a host body. BUT
sometimes both the Ibbur and Tzedek host teach eachother. Moshes for example was too headstrong and thus wasnt allowed to enter into the promised land ..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


no.


 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


QOUTE:

Absorption of Another Soul: Ibbur by Mark Elber

The word ibbur was originally used interchangeably with gilgul as a term for transmigration of the soul. Over time it came to have a separate, but related, meaning. Ibbur implies “transferring” and the word is also used to mean “conception.” The same root is used for pregnancy, fetus, and related words.

As the meaning of ibbur separated from gilgul, it came to refer to a soul that inhabits another body for a limited period of time, as in a pregnancy, in contrast to a gilgul, in which a soul is in a new body for the life of that body. Usually there were two purposes that Kabbalists attributed to an ibbur temporarily entering a body. One was to fulfill some mitzvot or tasks that the soul had not completed in its previous lifetime. The other was to help a particular person to carry out a task for which this visiting soul was particularly known.

Though an ibbur is a temporary resident, the length of time the additional soul may inhabit another's body could last years. Primarily the ibbur was there for positive reasons, to bring strength, goodness, and aid in the performance of mitzvot.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I sought the permanent. Keep those prayers of love coming. You may not always get an answer, but they are always heard.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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The permanent is possible in terms of reuniting with twin flame...
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if you want to play musical chairs with your own soul, that's your prerogative.

me, i just say no.
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Its musical chairs with what always belonged to you..

You were fragmented when born. We gain immortal life only when we rejoin our lost fragments.
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I read a very good book on prophecy that I think many would enjoy it's called "Enigmatic Sunrise Todays Prophetic Secrets Revealed" and it talks about the last day moshiach. Here is one example: The story of Joseph..as christian people are taught that Joseph represents Jesus because the coat of many colors was dipped in goat's blood..the colors represent the many nations and the blood sacrificial of
what Jesus did on calvary. The Pharoah symbolic of GOD the Father and position of greatest authority on earth. Lets consider another idea involving 3 entities. Jesus
represents pharoah, as pharoah was the ruler of the greatest authority on earth at the time.He was also the provider of the bread and nourishment for the life of men. Joseph correctly interpreted the 7 year famine of food, saving the people from physical starvation. This is a foreshadow of the 7 year tribulation when this Joseph(moshiach) will rise up and save the people from spiritual starvation. When Joseph appeared before Pharoah, Joseph told pharoah that God made these things known to him. If Pharoah was symbolic of God, as has been taught by people today then Joseph would have responded "you pharoah, God have given me the interpretation of the dream!" So the first entity is GOD, as Joseph mentions GOD gave him the interpretation. The second entity is Pharoah, symbolic of the ruler of the kingdom and the source of life during the last seven years of the interpreted spiritual famine. A
type of bread of life or another name for Jesus, and he was the head of the kingdom. The third entity was Joseph himself, a servant to pharoah and, King of the kingdom. Pharoah appointed Joseph secondary head of the kingdom. Joseph became leader and commander through his witness, for he correctly interpreted the dream, and by his witness saved many from death. Not by his sacrifice as was the case Jesus bearing the cross, but by his, Josephs' witness was many saved! Considering the blood of a goat on the coat of many colors. Jesus is not symbolic of the goat of God but he is the Lamb of GOD! why not the blood of a lamb if it was to symbolize Jesus or a ram at least a ram is a male sheep. A goat is a ruminant mammal related to the sheep, this is symbolic of the gentiles! Again we are dealing with a goat even depicted in the story of Jacob, covering his hands, works in goatskin! Did God direct Josephs' brothers to the goat and not to a lamb by mistake? Was God confused and couldn't find a sheep at the time, or perhaps he forgot the difference between a sheep and a goat! I think not!
Even as Joseph's brothers chose the blood of a goat and rejected the blood of a lamb. Even so would come the time when Joseph's brothers the jewish people, would for a second time reject the blood of the Lamb Of GOD! The blood is not the significant thing here it is what the blood symbolizes this is significant!The Word of God states the life of man is in the blood (Gen.9:4-6)....this is just a small portion
of this book..I would recommend it to everyone...it shows this last day moshiach very clearly. I believe this book came out in 2006.
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Nobody else can see this Joseph being the last day hidden moshiach?
 Quoting: waterman


I liked the part of Josephs coat of many colors, NICE ! Ill check this book out, Thank you..The animals did reflect people. That is why they did the sacrifice so the meaning would come to them later..

The goat is head strong, They are very independant and willfull.

They will jump and escape an enclosure if they had to , they are quite opposite as sheep. But whats cool is that goatskin also held the sacred word as in Vellum which they wrote their scrolls on. Hence logos, the word was written on a goat... the people as a whole reject all the words of God, they being willfull stubborn people..

There is good and bad in the goat allegories.

Now about the seven years, I believe we have started the seven year starvation with the USA drought in our breadbasket. I believe this drought will continue..
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I read a very good book on prophecy that I think many would enjoy it's called "Enigmatic Sunrise Todays Prophetic Secrets Revealed" and it talks about the last day moshiach. Here is one example: The story of Joseph..as christian people are taught that Joseph represents Jesus because the coat of many colors was dipped in goat's blood..the colors represent the many nations and the blood sacrificial of
what Jesus did on calvary. The Pharoah symbolic of GOD the Father and position of greatest authority on earth. Lets consider another idea involving 3 entities. Jesus
represents pharoah, as pharoah was the ruler of the greatest authority on earth at the time.He was also the provider of the bread and nourishment for the life of men. Joseph correctly interpreted the 7 year famine of food, saving the people from physical starvation. This is a foreshadow of the 7 year tribulation when this Joseph(moshiach) will rise up and save the people from spiritual starvation. When Joseph appeared before Pharoah, Joseph told pharoah that God made these things known to him. If Pharoah was symbolic of God, as has been taught by people today then Joseph would have responded "you pharoah, God have given me the interpretation of the dream!" So the first entity is GOD, as Joseph mentions GOD gave him the interpretation. The second entity is Pharoah, symbolic of the ruler of the kingdom and the source of life during the last seven years of the interpreted spiritual famine. A
type of bread of life or another name for Jesus, and he was the head of the kingdom. The third entity was Joseph himself, a servant to pharoah and, King of the kingdom. Pharoah appointed Joseph secondary head of the kingdom. Joseph became leader and commander through his witness, for he correctly interpreted the dream, and by his witness saved many from death. Not by his sacrifice as was the case Jesus bearing the cross, but by his, Josephs' witness was many saved! Considering the blood of a goat on the coat of many colors. Jesus is not symbolic of the goat of God but he is the Lamb of GOD! why not the blood of a lamb if it was to symbolize Jesus or a ram at least a ram is a male sheep. A goat is a ruminant mammal related to the sheep, this is symbolic of the gentiles! Again we are dealing with a goat even depicted in the story of Jacob, covering his hands, works in goatskin! Did God direct Josephs' brothers to the goat and not to a lamb by mistake? Was God confused and couldn't find a sheep at the time, or perhaps he forgot the difference between a sheep and a goat! I think not!
Even as Joseph's brothers chose the blood of a goat and rejected the blood of a lamb. Even so would come the time when Joseph's brothers the jewish people, would for a second time reject the blood of the Lamb Of GOD! The blood is not the significant thing here it is what the blood symbolizes this is significant!The Word of God states the life of man is in the blood (Gen.9:4-6)....this is just a small portion
of this book..I would recommend it to everyone...it shows this last day moshiach very clearly. I believe this book came out in 2006.
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Nobody else can see this Joseph being the last day hidden moshiach?
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And here is more about the lamb ram, I believe the Ram is the Male lamb.. the Ram of Aries...


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if you want to play musical chairs with your own soul, that's your prerogative.

me, i just say no.
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Its musical chairs with what always belonged to you..

You were fragmented when born. We gain immortal life only when we rejoin our lost fragments.
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dude...you don't know me, i don't know you.

you write crap on the 'net and preach it as the latest mumbo jumbo while you either perniciously refuse to answer questions or you don't know what you're talking about - meaning you're reading off a teleprompter.

i've come face to face with folks who play shell games with souls. count me out. i'll keep what's mine and my family will keep what's theirs. you can whore your soul out to any old 'angel' or 'demon' that comes your way promising you...whatever.

i ain't playing that.
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if you want to play musical chairs with your own soul, that's your prerogative.

me, i just say no.
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Its musical chairs with what always belonged to you..

You were fragmented when born. We gain immortal life only when we rejoin our lost fragments.
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dude...you don't know me, i don't know you.

you write crap on the 'net and preach it as the latest mumbo jumbo while you either perniciously refuse to answer questions or you don't know what you're talking about - meaning you're reading off a teleprompter.

i've come face to face with folks who play shell games with souls. count me out. i'll keep what's mine and my family will keep what's theirs. you can whore your soul out to any old 'angel' or 'demon' that comes your way promising you...whatever.

i ain't playing that.
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Its not our ways but God, So when the soul of Moses comes along, youre free to reject him...

About CRAP ON THE NET. All I did was qoute Jewish sources so people will know its Jewish Principles of Faith,

Youre bordering on Anti Semitism when I CLEARLY PROVIDED YOU THE NAMES OF THE AUTHORS AND SOURCES ...teleprompter my ass

I provided about ten Jewish links in this post

ANTI SEMITISM is ugly, youre free to go your own way.

I dont tolerate hatred of jewish people, nor disrespect Roman Mythology which I also teach, You can google any of the subjects I found which are entirely accurate to the Roman Mythologies which the FAKE APOSTATE CHRISTIANS HIJACKED..

go run to the apostasy, you have been fooled.
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Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against jewish people for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. Social scientists consider it a form of racism. In a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism is defined as "hatred toward jewish people—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity.
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Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against jewish people for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. Social scientists consider it a form of racism. In a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism is defined as "hatred toward jewish people—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity.
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Interesting passage...

"Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses"

Hmmm. Maybe the resurrected Moses is the Moshiach?

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Apollo when are they going to rebuild the third temple that he sit's on?
"Michael the Archangel"

The commander of the Lord's army of angels in Heaven.
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Interesting passage...

"Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses"

Hmmm. Maybe the resurrected Moses is the Moshiach?

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Uncle Mikey, I think T CETI was talking about this too. Theres tales that before we had to begin the second resurrection, Jehovah took all the bodies for safekeeping..

When T Ceti comes back , maybe he can explain..

Ill find the passage too that the spirit of Moshe might enter into Moshiach..

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