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A MAN UNKNOWN,... A MAN OF SECRECY.... A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN.

 
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End the Religious Wars! No one is right.
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Apollo when are they going to rebuild the third temple that he sit's on?
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When he is ready, Moshiach has to direct the building project of the Beit Hamikdash..
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Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against jewish people for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. Social scientists consider it a form of racism. In a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism is defined as "hatred toward jewish people—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity.
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You're scaring me. Israel is in big trouble right now. It looks like the POS... I mean the POTUS is turning his back on her.

Not cool. Now is definitely not the time to be hating jewish people for sure.

grumpy2
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Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against jewish people for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. Social scientists consider it a form of racism. In a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism is defined as "hatred toward jewish people—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity.
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You're scaring me. Israel is in big trouble right now. It looks like the POS... I mean the POTUS is turning his back on her.

Not cool. Now is definitely not the time to be hating jewish people for sure.

grumpy2
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Lots of things are happening, but dont forget too Mikey, the Lost Tribes scattered to all the parts of the world after the attack by the Assyrians..

The Lost Tribes could be anywhere, they could be in America..
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The Lost Tribes could be anywhere, they could be in America..
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Oh, right. The grafting of the branches to the palm... or something like that.
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Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against jewish people for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. Social scientists consider it a form of racism. In a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism is defined as "hatred toward jewish people—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


You're scaring me. Israel is in big trouble right now. It looks like the POS... I mean the POTUS is turning his back on her.

Not cool. Now is definitely not the time to be hating jewish people for sure.

grumpy2
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Check this book out !

... see where they are now..hf

THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL TODAY


[link to www.amazon.com]

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Haha your coming mosiach has been found out and he's a fraud. Remember Christ is God your maker.
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if you want to play musical chairs with your own soul, that's your prerogative.

me, i just say no.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


Its musical chairs with what always belonged to you..

You were fragmented when born. We gain immortal life only when we rejoin our lost fragments.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


dude...you don't know me, i don't know you.

you write crap on the 'net and preach it as the latest mumbo jumbo while you either perniciously refuse to answer questions or you don't know what you're talking about - meaning you're reading off a teleprompter.

i've come face to face with folks who play shell games with souls. count me out. i'll keep what's mine and my family will keep what's theirs. you can whore your soul out to any old 'angel' or 'demon' that comes your way promising you...whatever.

i ain't playing that.
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Sometimes you have to play along and let them think they know to get them where they need to go, though.
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why the hell do you make these retarded posts.
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End the Religious Wars! No one is right.
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Except you!
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The Lost Tribes could be anywhere, they could be in America..
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Oh, right. The grafting of the branches to the palm... or something like that.
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Mikey, they are the blood of Abraham, the tribes and sons of Jacob. Ill post a paragraph here with a list..

THE LOST TRIBES
wiki:

Lost tribes are those that formed the northern Kingdom of Israel after the dissolution of the united Kingdom of Israel in c. 930 BC. The tribes of Reuben, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Ephraim, and Manasseh were parts of the northern kingdom, a total of nine.

It has sometimes been said that the Tribe of Simeon was a part of the northern Kingdom of Israel and was therefore part of the "Ten Lost Tribes." However, the Tribe of Simeon was never located in the Northern Kingdom, but was located entirely within the land of Judah. (Joshua 19:1)

In addition, the territory of the tribe of Benjamin was part of the kingdom of Judah at the time of the Babylonian Exile and after, and the tribe of Levi continued to serve in the Second Temple in Jerusalem after the Exile, making four tribes (Judah, Simeon, Benjamin and Levi) who were not actually "lost".
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Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against jewish people for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. Social scientists consider it a form of racism. In a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism is defined as "hatred toward jewish people—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


You're scaring me. Israel is in big trouble right now. It looks like the POS... I mean the POTUS is turning his back on her.

Not cool. Now is definitely not the time to be hating jewish people for sure.

grumpy2
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Check this book out !

... see where they are now..hf

THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL TODAY


[link to www.amazon.com]

:starsover:
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New JerUSAlem!

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Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against jewish people for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. Social scientists consider it a form of racism. In a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism is defined as "hatred toward jewish people—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


You're scaring me. Israel is in big trouble right now. It looks like the POS... I mean the POTUS is turning his back on her.

Not cool. Now is definitely not the time to be hating jewish people for sure.

grumpy2
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Check this book out !

... see where they are now..hf

THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL TODAY


[link to www.amazon.com]

:starsover:
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New JerUSAlem!

banana2
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YES !

NEW JER USA LEM...

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Every day, your world can change. Make sure you're changing with it.
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if you want to play musical chairs with your own soul, that's your prerogative.

me, i just say no.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


Its musical chairs with what always belonged to you..

You were fragmented when born. We gain immortal life only when we rejoin our lost fragments.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


dude...you don't know me, i don't know you.

you write crap on the 'net and preach it as the latest mumbo jumbo while you either perniciously refuse to answer questions or you don't know what you're talking about - meaning you're reading off a teleprompter.

i've come face to face with folks who play shell games with souls. count me out. i'll keep what's mine and my family will keep what's theirs. you can whore your soul out to any old 'angel' or 'demon' that comes your way promising you...whatever.

i ain't playing that.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


Sometimes you have to play along and let them think they know to get them where they need to go, though.
 Quoting: Star2Finish 24094520


yeah, i know what you mean and usually i do.

start talking about hosts and possessing souls and that crap...i decline with extreme prejudice.
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interesting thread.

it is also written that there shall come one 'mighty and strong, like unto David'...

not sure where that is written...

but, I have met several men over the years that thought each was that man.

I have laughed at more than one of them....

but i do know one that was shown in a waking vision that he was the reincarnated 'David' . He was told that he was a King and other things that he would not speak of.

He did not believe that he was the Moshianic or David or whoever. He was extremely unusual and had been taught by 'angels' when he was young and led by someone he called Michael during his life.

not sure if he is 'the one' or not. but he fits the picture...blonde blue eyed.

he has avoided the limelight and has prefered being a sort of recluse although he seems to be quite successful in his life. His family , children, wife..are extraordinary in many ways.

I have lost touch with him...but perhaps one day?
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Apollo,

I've been curious about the 3 Wise Men of the New Testament connection specific to astrotheology, beyond just the typical esoteric meanings.

Have you ever looked into this?

I am seeing Perseus, Auriga, and Orion as 3 wise men bearing gifts to the "manger" which is occupied by the 'cattle' of Taurus and Aries.

If you've never seen it on an illustrated star map, it shows well in Stellarium software with illustrations turned on.

Would love to hear your or Mikey's thoughts.
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Its musical chairs with what always belonged to you..

You were fragmented when born. We gain immortal life only when we rejoin our lost fragments.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


dude...you don't know me, i don't know you.

you write crap on the 'net and preach it as the latest mumbo jumbo while you either perniciously refuse to answer questions or you don't know what you're talking about - meaning you're reading off a teleprompter.

i've come face to face with folks who play shell games with souls. count me out. i'll keep what's mine and my family will keep what's theirs. you can whore your soul out to any old 'angel' or 'demon' that comes your way promising you...whatever.

i ain't playing that.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


Sometimes you have to play along and let them think they know to get them where they need to go, though.
 Quoting: Star2Finish 24094520


yeah, i know what you mean and usually i do.

start talking about hosts and possessing souls and that crap...i decline with extreme prejudice.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man



MoshiachListen.com

The passage begins with a number of assertions as to the name of Moshiach, with .... soul of either Moses or David will be incarnated in the person of Moshiach , ...
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i've heard of selling souls before, but you're pushing this way too hard there a.i.

elijah, moshe, jeebus.....

i don't care what names you drop. i ain't buying a pig in a poke.

and screaming 'anti-semite' anytime someone disagrees with you has got to be the lowest form of self defense there is.
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Apollo,

also, what's your thoughts on the 36?
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Apollo,

I've been curious about the 3 Wise Men of the New Testament connection specific to astrotheology, beyond just the typical esoteric meanings.

Have you ever looked into this?

I am seeing Perseus, Auriga, and Orion as 3 wise men bearing gifts to the "manger" which is occupied by the 'cattle' of Taurus and Aries.

If you've never seen it on an illustrated star map, it shows well in Stellarium software with illustrations turned on.

Would love to hear your or Mikey's thoughts.
 Quoting: SE


Yes ! I had a post on this.. The Christmas story is the animals of Aries and Taurus attendant at the birth of the child...

Perseus was the Peretz, (Hebrew for Mighty Man) the head he carries is Rosh Satan (Hebrew), the head of the adversary. So it can be likened to the prophecy of the bruising of the head
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Apollo,

also, what's your thoughts on the 36?
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I believe in them !

Theres always 36 Tzadikim Nistarim on earth ! they are the hidden ones, They bear the sins of the whole world. 36 whom G-d loves the most, who have borne the most weight and sorrows.. The are about to become Immortal or already are

I believe they aid Moshiach when it is time...They reach out to him and help guide him..
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Calling it a night friends ! May the spirit of Moshiach be with you ..
Goodnitehf

KOL TUV,

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End the Religious Wars! No one is right.
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Except you!
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All gods are possible since none can be disproven.

And Man created God to explain the unknown.
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Very interesting discussion about soul / spirit - being put into words i have never found but had 'grasped' on some level the distinctions. Thanks guys for the eloquent clarifications :-)

Indeed one feels bound by something (soul) - yet the other is pure freedom ...essence...(spirit).. like a force which permeates everything...a force which deeply craves expression. It's the most wonderful link that is the only thing i know we truly ever are..beyond this mind, body, this life, this earth and beyond...indeed eternal before all creation , throughout and ever-lasting.

I shall now rest and allow this blissful realisation to saturate me deeper...always known, yet so often forgotten.


hf
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I agree, and it's a force of pure peaceful tranquility, which is our natural state. Theses words, and many more here are inspiring, thank you peeps. It's nice to see. We all have experienced the blissful nature of love, the manifestation of spirit, it's what we are. It starts with us in what we do to our brothers and sisters, in projecting the love which we all share with each other.

hf
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You're scaring me. Israel is in big trouble right now. It looks like the POS... I mean the POTUS is turning his back on her.

Not cool. Now is definitely not the time to be hating jewish people for sure.

grumpy2
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Check this book out !

... see where they are now..hf

THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL TODAY


[link to www.amazon.com]

:starsover:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


New JerUSAlem!

banana2
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


YES !

NEW JER USA LEM...

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This is a better book [link to www.amazon.com]
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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A MAN UNKNOWN



With respect to his arising, he will not be known beforehand until it is declared to him... a man, unknown prior to his manifestation, shall rise, and the signs and wonders that will come about through him will be the proof for the authenticity of his claim and pedigree. ..

"The Principle of Mashiach, and the Messianic Era



A MAN OF SECRECY:



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Although Moshiach's identity may be secret, ancient prophetic passages provide clues to his identity. This web site will focus on the "peshat-simple" and the "sod or secret" nature of the coming son of David.There is no greater mystery than the identity of Moshiach ben David. Moshiach who is represented by the number "8" waits in hiding. He peeks through the windows and peers through the crevices not wanting to be seen, behaving as if he's ashamed of his appearance. Why does he hide his face from the Jewish community? What is he waiting for? Why doesn't he come already?Unfortunately, he is in no spiritual condition to make himself known.


A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN:



Why does Moshiach "tarry" or procrastinate? In the Tenach, ha sefer Shir haShirim 2:9 [Song of Songs] we are given insight into the early relationship between Moshiach and his bride Israel.Lack of knowledge from the chosen people prevents Moshiach from making his appearance.Why is Moshiach concealed and hidden among the gentiles? Could it have been the Holocaust or some other tragic event that lead to the concealment of the son of David? It's any ones guess what might have triggered the separation but one thing is for certain, in the latter days just prior to the revelation of Moshiach the son of David is a resident of Edom.At last Moshiach makes his appearance! The one who was previously standing behind the lattice is now spiritually strong enough to knock at her door. Why does Moshiach knock? Only a stranger knocks before entering. The owner of the house will not quickly open to a stranger. Moshiach will have severed all religious allegiance with Edom/Christianity (see Modern day Edom) but his love for the people in the Christian community will never be extinguished

[link to birthpangsofmoshiach.blogspot.com]


In the principles of faith it says. " I believe with complete faith in the coming of the Mashiach, Though he tarry, nonetheless I await him every day that he will come"



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COMMENTARY BY APOLLO:
Who is this man that they look for? Moshiach, Mashiach...is the Hebrew term for Messiah. In the Jewish lands they did not believe that Jesus was the prophecied one, rather they look for a man to come, who has not yet come or showed himself. When he does appear, he is to be crowned to usher in a new world .
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


THE SON OF MAN(THE SEED OF PROMISE TO DAVID)

Christ Jesus is the son of no man, he is the only begotten son of God alone, the virgin birth is proof, Christ Jesus is the seed of God alone, via God's Holy Spirit.

The Son of Man is the seed of the promised heir to David's throne, which will remain forever more/eternal.

In Revelation 12 we find the male child, born of the woman/Israel/the Bride, Body & Church of Christ Jesus/tribe of Judah/bloodline of David/Messianic Jew.

As he is birthed/revealed, Satan is waiting to destroy him. Before this happens, the very hand of God snatches him up off the face of this earth to his throne in heaven. For God to accomplish this act, this male child must be of immortal flesh. Thus eternal. As one reads further on in chapter 12 of Revelation you should note Michael and his angels make war with the dragon. This male child has now become the Michael as stated in Revelation 12 as well.

One must go back to chapter 6 of Revelation to see him now as the first white horse rider and the angels that follow his lead.

This male child is the overcomer of the seven letters to the Church of Christ Jesus first mentioned at the very beginning of this book. This overcomer is also known as the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root/seed of David as one will find in chapter 5 of Revelation. Christ Jesus is the Lamb of God and his only begotten son, who is given the honor to break the seals of this yet to be revealed scroll.

How little do you know?

P.S. Prophecy: The seed of promise will be conceived 9 months after Israel becomes a nation once again. Nine months from his conception, the male child will have been born. Check these dates as they are important. The male child is only awaiting the hour of his revealing by the very hand of God snatching him off the face of this earth to heaven. Thus revealed! As he returns with his holy angels, who will stand in this time of testing and trails?

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