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A MAN UNKNOWN,... A MAN OF SECRECY.... A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN.

 
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hey apollo....

i read your threads and you flitter around some relevant topics for sure.

but, it seems to me that you pull pages from vast library's of historical mythology that seem self-serving at best.

as for this mosiach guy....

IF he was to JUDGE, do you think one particular people or group would be spared?

OR...do you think his JUDGEMENT would be absolute, all-encompassing and perfect in every way?
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


I would think he would revive many of the old laws... Remember that they say he works with the Torah, the written law..

Here are what the scriptures say about Moshiach:

"The spirit of G-d will rest upon him, a spirit of wisdom and understanding, a spirit of counsel and might, a spirit of knowledge and of the fear of G-d. He shall be inspired with fear of G-d, and he shall not judge with the sight of his eyes nor decide according to the hearing of his ears.

He shall judge the poor with righteousness and decide with equity for the humble of the earth; he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth and slay the wicked with the breath of his lips. Righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faith the girdle of his reins." (Isaiah 11:2-5) "Through his knowledge My servant shall justify the righteous to the many.." (Isaiah 53:10)

"Behold, My servant shall be wise, he shall be exalted and lofty, and shall be very high." (Isaiah 52:13).
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST

that's kind of my point, yet you didn't answer the question.

'they say' is regurgitating text of what 'they said'.

is it possible that what 'they say' is actually what 'they hope'?
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


Im sure he will have the law written in his heart too. Why do we put up living in a world of child abusers, and people that pollute the environment and abuse animals..
None of these practices were allowed in the law. The law was perfect to weed out those that didnt even have a moral compass

We are too lenient today, Does forgiveness actually work? Do we like living in fear under the sexual criminals mapped out in our neighborhood? is this really fair?

He will do whats right.

Were in judgement day right now. Everything we say or do is being recorded literally.
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still dancing around the question, eh?
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Indeed Apollo i feel the same.. Jesus doesn't need to make war just his mere second coming glory will be enough to wipe any evil out... This passage refers to God's anointed servant found many times in the book of Isaiah.
hf
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everyone is an anointed servant for we all have the spirit of the creator..and as a servant we are all the greatest as its written the greatest is the one whom serves..does not your shell serve the spirit of the creator within or do you serve the lie of the soul?
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


how can you say all Apollo are the wicked anointed too? Anointing comes from God.. He chooses his servants before hand and anoints them to fulfill his purposes.. You can't anoint yourself.
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I'm of the opinion YES they are annointed.
Perhaps even moreso than others.
Who would be more annointed in the Eye of God than a Judas character - without whom no prophecy would be fulfilled!
Without the fulfillment of prophecy none would believe and the story would not perpetuate.
 Quoting: SE


I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
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close friends get to call him tc,,

pro-vid-ing it's with dignity,,

top cat,, the one and only top cat,,



apologies grand architect,, as this one could not resist the mirrored irony,,

much love,,
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much love back, as a fellow creator can only give love..souls give hate back for they cant love themselves enough to overcome the world and remember whom they are..its sad so many still sleep and wont allow themselves to be changed in the twinkling of an eye,closing their eyes to the worlds lie of the soul and embracing their spirit within...i would cry for them but one Gethsemane was enough as all they seek are signs these days..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Indeed Apollo i feel the same.. Jesus doesn't need to make war just his mere second coming glory will be enough to wipe any evil out... This passage refers to God's anointed servant found many times in the book of Isaiah.
hf
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everyone is an anointed servant for we all have the spirit of the creator..and as a servant we are all the greatest as its written the greatest is the one whom serves..does not your shell serve the spirit of the creator within or do you serve the lie of the soul?
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


how can you say all Apollo are the wicked anointed too? Anointing comes from God.. He chooses his servants before hand and anoints them to fulfill his purposes.. You can't anoint yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
do you or do you not have the spirit of the creator within you? or do you have another false spirit? we were anointed before the creation was created ,you are still not remembering who you are to overcome the world..
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You confuse anointing with predestination TC
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everyone is an anointed servant for we all have the spirit of the creator..and as a servant we are all the greatest as its written the greatest is the one whom serves..does not your shell serve the spirit of the creator within or do you serve the lie of the soul?
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


how can you say all Apollo are the wicked anointed too? Anointing comes from God.. He chooses his servants before hand and anoints them to fulfill his purposes.. You can't anoint yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189


I'm of the opinion YES they are annointed.
Perhaps even moreso than others.
Who would be more annointed in the Eye of God than a Judas character - without whom no prophecy would be fulfilled!
Without the fulfillment of prophecy none would believe and the story would not perpetuate.
 Quoting: SE


I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/19/2012 11:11 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Mercury (Hermes) in the Fish
 Quoting: SE


SE, excellent . lol, funny how the world works eh?


Mercury was also placed in tooth fillings,

SHIN, JUDGEMENT, gnashing of teeth...


Here he is, older, wiser, sitting in the Vesica..

:mantegna:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Indeed!
The joint character of Jupiter/Zeus
the J-Zeus, if you will.
IOVE, LOVE
And he did enjoy maidens! (vessica symbolism)
His Eagle has Landed.

Hopefully that makes some sense to you, though as this thread continues I'll flesh it out more if need be or opportunity presents.

Character Shin / Sin to me is representative of the triune-spark of divinity that empowers man at the soular level.
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he isn't one man or one woman...to say that is to separate the spirit from all whom have the spirit and everyone has the spirit...we were deceived by the world but we have overcame the world...we just need to remember that...this aint our first rodeo or our last one..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Apollo. I am in agreement with the above quote. Many men(or women) can identify themselves in many prophecies. Actually it is an issue because when attaining knowledge spiritually, we often couple it with our main stream religious teachings and create confusion from this. Many people on a spiritual path often have grand ideas that they are chosen in some way or another. Some even believing they are the messiah to come. This is a step in the spiritual journey and at some point on the journey we realize we are all capable of being messiahs - we are all the chosen. I will give you an example below using one of your links above: [link to www.the-big-picture.org.uk]


I will use my husband as this example.

The boy is wearing a blue trench coat. When a Freemason has attained the rank of a Master Mason he is then entitled, after a period of one month, to be exalted into a Royal Arch Chapter in order to complete fully his Master Mason's Degree. The higher Royal Arch degree is usually refered to as "The Red Lodge" from the colour of the trim on the aprons. The Craft lodges (first three degrees) have blue trim on their aprons and are refered to as "Blue Lodge" [6]. The boy likely represents a low level initiate Freemasonry (De Molay Society or similar) , which is unsurprising as only adults would be initiated into The Red Lodge. His face is expressionless, which may indicate that he is controlled.


My husband was born in a religious cult. The original leader of this religion has been proven to be a mason of the 32nd or 33rd degree. This religion has religious rites and ceremonies to initiate their young men into the order of Melchezidec but is very likened to Freemasonry rites.This religion controlls these boys and groom them to follow the fundamentalist religion.


and:

The Masonic boy is standing on a checker board floor of red and white; his feet are at 90 degrees;

Check - my husband"s feet are planted at 90 degrees - meaning he has a foot in his religion he was raised in and also in his spiritual journey. He is stuck in this angle and cannot move forward, unable to release one or the other. The checker board represents two paths. The red - likened to communism or fundamentalism. The white - the path of the spirit.

“Q. On your return to the Lodge, where were you placed, as the youngest Entered Apprentice?

A. In the northeast corner, my feet forming a right angle, my body erect, at the right hand of the Worshipful Master in the east, an upright man and Mason, and it was given me strictly in charge ever to walk and act as such.”

Check - This is my husband's issue - the feeling that he should not forsake his roots and follow in the path of the origins/creator/upright man and Mason- of the religion he was raised within. He can be likened to looking through the lattice.

I won't go on. There is much more than the above. The point is - your prophecies fit my husband. Is he the world's messiah? No way. There are millions of others who these prophecies fit. The point is that the prophecies come from ancient writings that are now misconstrued and misunderstood. We are all messiahs or at least have the same opportunity to be so. The world is waiting for a person that will never materialize...when they should be striving to become one of the many.
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:muralboy:

Yes, that painting was Masonic inspired, Its a little Mason boy in his blue trenchcoat and hes standing as a Mason

The Masonic Forefathers came to American shores to free us from the Monarchy.. and Im sure it was to create a environment for Moshiach to grow up in...away from his peoples so that he may awaken at due time

Im sorry you and yours did not have a good experience and that you call Masonry a cult.

I thank you for sharing your story however.. and I hope you and your husband find your path...

Remember, its not up to us who is chosen. its up to God.
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how can you say all Apollo are the wicked anointed too? Anointing comes from God.. He chooses his servants before hand and anoints them to fulfill his purposes.. You can't anoint yourself.
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I'm of the opinion YES they are annointed.
Perhaps even moreso than others.
Who would be more annointed in the Eye of God than a Judas character - without whom no prophecy would be fulfilled!
Without the fulfillment of prophecy none would believe and the story would not perpetuate.
 Quoting: SE


I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


The creator is in heaven TC.. We're just the creation... And Lucifer is just another creation gone bad.
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everyone is an anointed servant for we all have the spirit of the creator..and as a servant we are all the greatest as its written the greatest is the one whom serves..does not your shell serve the spirit of the creator within or do you serve the lie of the soul?
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


how can you say all Apollo are the wicked anointed too? Anointing comes from God.. He chooses his servants before hand and anoints them to fulfill his purposes.. You can't anoint yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
do you or do you not have the spirit of the creator within you? or do you have another false spirit? we were anointed before the creation was created ,you are still not remembering who you are to overcome the world..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


You confuse anointing with predestination TC
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as we existed before the beginning,we were always anointed and predestined to remember whom we are..i have fulfilled my predestiny and waiting patiently on others whom still sleep..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/19/2012 11:15 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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SE, excellent . lol, funny how the world works eh?


Mercury was also placed in tooth fillings,

SHIN, JUDGEMENT, gnashing of teeth...


Here he is, older, wiser, sitting in the Vesica..

:mantegna:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Indeed!
The joint character of Jupiter/Zeus
the J-Zeus, if you will.
IOVE, LOVE
And he did enjoy maidens! (vessica symbolism)
His Eagle has Landed.

Hopefully that makes some sense to you, though as this thread continues I'll flesh it out more if need be or opportunity presents.

Character Shin / Sin to me is representative of the triune-spark of divinity that empowers man at the soular level.
 Quoting: SE


LOL, me bad, yes, its not really the Androgynous Mercury stage, it is Jupiter, Jove, Love. And his maidens all used up , Jupiter is expansive, gluttonous...

While Saturn is restrictive and bound,

I just need to upload more photos to explain...It was the only Vesica I had but youre smart and trained and I value your input soo much friend..

:eagleforth:
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And he's a " nobody " and " a nothing ", and an ordinary man by all practical appearances.

So would you prostrate yourself before a man who didn't even know he was supposed to be " the messiah " ?

Do you think that would make him feel uncomfortable, being a " nobody " his whole life, then having people want to pander to him ?

Can you answer my original question ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


Yes, but he is to serve others not vice versa, See in our imperfect minds, we think of being served. Even Jesus in the Christian teachings tried to undo this type of thinking by washing his disciples feet

I have no idea why this is where people naturally gravitate too, that being chosen means being catered to..
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Right, but I think you are missing the point here, Apollo.

You guys make a lot of fanfare around this individual, when he's by all means , to himself, a normal guy.

Would a normal guy who found out he's supposed to me a " messiah " of some sort, want anybody to pander to him, in any way ?

Would you ?
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how can you say all Apollo are the wicked anointed too? Anointing comes from God.. He chooses his servants before hand and anoints them to fulfill his purposes.. You can't anoint yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189


I'm of the opinion YES they are annointed.
Perhaps even moreso than others.
Who would be more annointed in the Eye of God than a Judas character - without whom no prophecy would be fulfilled!
Without the fulfillment of prophecy none would believe and the story would not perpetuate.
 Quoting: SE


I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


SATAN challenges, he is the adversary. But not at all EVIL in the sense that no work of GOD is evil. All is to God's ultimate plan, which is far beyond the simple mind of mankind.

SATAN is the acid used to purify, to borrow from the alchemical thought.
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SE, excellent . lol, funny how the world works eh?


Mercury was also placed in tooth fillings,

SHIN, JUDGEMENT, gnashing of teeth...


Here he is, older, wiser, sitting in the Vesica..

:mantegna:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I meant, ahem, older, wiser, more gluttonous, A elder King Solomon

lol....
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I'm of the opinion YES they are annointed.
Perhaps even moreso than others.
Who would be more annointed in the Eye of God than a Judas character - without whom no prophecy would be fulfilled!
Without the fulfillment of prophecy none would believe and the story would not perpetuate.
 Quoting: SE


I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


The creator is in heaven TC.. We're just the creation... And Lucifer is just another creation gone bad.
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do you or do you not have the spirit that gives life to a creation?..the body is a creation,we are spirit within a body..we created our bodies to be an ark for the spirit in our journey through worlds..you have only forgotten in so many incarnations into shells...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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cats are ferral,that & alien microbes controlling me arent my cup of tea...
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I just need to upload more photos to explain...It was the only Vesica I had but youre smart and trained and I value your input soo much friend..

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I too am a student and seeker, with many years braving some waters of my own to come into a clearer understanding of the mysteries.
And happy to explore with a kindred!
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I'm of the opinion YES they are annointed.
Perhaps even moreso than others.
Who would be more annointed in the Eye of God than a Judas character - without whom no prophecy would be fulfilled!
Without the fulfillment of prophecy none would believe and the story would not perpetuate.
 Quoting: SE


I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


SATAN challenges, he is the adversary. But not at all EVIL in the sense that no work of GOD is evil. All is to God's ultimate plan, which is far beyond the simple mind of mankind.

SATAN is the acid used to purify, to borrow from the alchemical thought.
 Quoting: SE
yes satan is the lie of the soul that challenges the spirit,therefore who wins within your kingdom of the creator, the spirit or the soul?

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/19/2012 11:22 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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interesting indeed,,

apollo creed,,

and how do you profess to test this manchild?,,

should he/her ever be found?,,

as the others in the mural are detailed with perfection,,

yet the manchild behind the lattice is a painted fiction within a desired mount pleasant of a three pronged upheld truth,,

afteral it is all greek to this one,,

much love,,
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I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
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satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


SATAN challenges, he is the adversary. But not at all EVIL in the sense that no work of GOD is evil. All is to God's ultimate plan, which is far beyond the simple mind of mankind.

SATAN is the acid used to purify, to borrow from the alchemical thought.
 Quoting: SE
yes satan is the soul that challenges the spirit,therefore who wins within your kingdom of the creator?
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Excellent, yes, ! To the Jewish people and those in the mysteries, Satan is just another agent for God to help purify the wayward soul...
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Apollo, where did these prophecies originate?
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Its been Cherished Jewish Prophecy for thousands of years, But the Christian community has been in a elaborate scheme to cover it up and slander it..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I'm sorry, I don't know a lot about that area. Does this come from one particular prophet, or is Moshiach mentioned in more than one place?
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It is the Foundation of Jewish Law and Tradition, One of the thirteen principles of Jewish faith. and the teachings of Moses and the Prophets.

Unfortunately in the West, Jewish tradition is drowned out and not very well known.
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Where could I locate it, specifically? I like to research things.
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Wanted to add this....since we brought up Jupiter/Zeus and the Freemasons..

The Rites of Dionysos were very similar to those of Bacchus, and by many these two gods are considered as one. Statues of Dionysos were carried in the Eleusinian Mysteries, especially the lesser degrees. Bacchus, representing the soul of the mundane sphere, was capable of an infinite multiplicity of form and designations. Dionysos apparently was his solar aspect.

The Dionysiac Architects constituted an ancient secret society, in principles and doctrines much like the modern Freemasonic Order. They were an organization of builders bound together by their secret knowledge of the relationship between the earthly and the divine sciences of architectonics. They were supposedly employed by King Solomon in the building of his Temple, although they were not jewish people, nor did they worship the God of the jewish people, being followers of Bacchus and Dionysos. The Dionysiac Architects erected many of the great monuments of antiquity. They possessed a secret language and a system of marking their stones. They had annual convocations and sacred feasts. The exact nature of their doctrines is unknown. It is believed that CHiram Abiff was an initiate of this society.

-Secret teachings of All Ages...
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satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


SATAN challenges, he is the adversary. But not at all EVIL in the sense that no work of GOD is evil. All is to God's ultimate plan, which is far beyond the simple mind of mankind.

SATAN is the acid used to purify, to borrow from the alchemical thought.
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yes satan is the soul that challenges the spirit,therefore who wins within your kingdom of the creator?
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Excellent, yes, ! To the Jewish people and those in the mysteries, Satan is just another agent for God to help purify the wayward soul...
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as i said i have overcome the world for my spirit is not of the world it existed before the world...and the spirit will make the Sadducee and pharisees look like the dead again if need be,lol..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Its been Cherished Jewish Prophecy for thousands of years, But the Christian community has been in a elaborate scheme to cover it up and slander it..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I'm sorry, I don't know a lot about that area. Does this come from one particular prophet, or is Moshiach mentioned in more than one place?
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It is the Foundation of Jewish Law and Tradition, One of the thirteen principles of Jewish faith. and the teachings of Moses and the Prophets.

Unfortunately in the West, Jewish tradition is drowned out and not very well known.
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Where could I locate it, specifically? I like to research things.
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Here is a excerpt from one...


[link to www.kesser.org]

BELIEF IN MOSHIACH POSSIBILITY OR CERTAINTY
Table of Contents:

Defining the "Coming of the Moshiach"
The Generation of the Moshiach
Speculating About the Time of Moshiach's Coming
The Possibility versus the Absolute Certainty of the Moshiach's Coming
Moshiach as G-dliness Becoming Obvious

Belief in the coming of the Moshiach (Messiah) is a long standing and integral part of Judaism. The Bible, especially in the prophetic texts, is filled with references to the Messianic redemption. The Talmud and midrashim also contain many discussions about the nature of Moshiach and the messianic era. Maimonides codified belief in the Moshiach as one of the essential principles of Jewish faith. At the beginning of his Mishneh Torah, he writes that "one who does not believe in him, or who does not await his coming, denies not only the prophets, but also the Torah and Moses our Teacher."
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Apollo, I thought I had seen that painting somewhere. Here is someone doing their own "translation" of the picture:

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Here is another


JEWISH PAGE ON MOSHIACH

[link to bethaderech.com]


EXCERPT FROM WEBSITE

Do you really want Mashiach Now? Many people have that cry in their lips, but do not mean it. In the Amida which is a set of prayers composed by eighteen different prayers, we find at the end of it a prayer asking for Mashiach to come, to reveal Himself
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there is no one greater than another for we all have the spirit in equal measure..true prophets dont say to worship god only,they ask to acknowledge the goddess with the god as the creator...to say worship or follow only god would be a lie and we dont follow lies, we follow the spirit..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Hope you all enjoy fighting G-ds chosen one..
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You can stand and fight for your God. YHWH and his temple Yehushua will fight for Israel. For me I stand with YHWH and Yehushua and not your God.
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interesting indeed,,

apollo creed,,

and how do you profess to test this manchild?,,

should he/her ever be found?,,

as the others in the mural are detailed with perfection,,

yet the manchild behind the lattice is a painted fiction within a desired mount pleasant of a three pronged upheld truth,,

afteral it is all greek to this one,,

much love,,
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This intrigues me, I dont know how they will test him and declare him to the world. they do believe he will ride a donkey into town though...


[link to www.sichosinenglish.org]

In describing the advent of Moshiach, the Prophet states,[3] "He will be lowly and riding upon a donkey." Pirkei D'Rav Eliezer[4] notes that this is the same donkey mentioned by Moses, as is written,[5] "And Moses set them (his family) upon a donkey" and it is the same donkey used by Abraham, as in,[6] "and he saddled his donkey" (in preparing for the akeidah - (the binding of Isaac upon the altar).

Is this factor, that Moshiach will ride on a donkey of such paramount importance? Does it matter how Moshiach will come? And of what significance is it to know whose donkey it is? Obviously, as our Sages see it, there is more to it than the physical animal itself.

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The goal of Mattan-Torah will be revealed through Moshiach.

We find, however, a distinction in the use of the donkey by Abraham, Moses and Moshiach.
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Hope you all enjoy fighting G-ds chosen one..
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You can stand and fight for your God. YHWH and his temple Yehushua will fight for Israel. For me I stand with YHWH and Yehushua and not your God.
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LOL


LOL


LOL



Make room, theres other prophecies taking place my friend...
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Apollo,
how do you interpret or what do you make of the role of Moses (Moshe) as related to the "Moshiach".