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A MAN UNKNOWN,... A MAN OF SECRECY.... A MAN CONCEALED AND HIDDEN.

 
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Apollo,
how do you interpret or what do you make of the role of Moses (Moshe) as related to the "Moshiach".
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Some say the spirit of Moshe, will go Ibbur into a Tzedek host...

Meaning he will have to be zealous for righteousness in a wayard and ignorant society.
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Jesus is the only truth. He is returning soon and will destroy those who have made this world so wicked.
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:muralboy:

Why is the floor red and black? What is the masonic significance of a red and black checkerboard floor as opposed to a black and white checkerboard floor?

I don't need a link and pages of detailed explanations along with numerous diagrams.

Just give me a brief summary, if you care to.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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interesting indeed,,

apollo creed,,

and how do you profess to test this manchild?,,

should he/her ever be found?,,

as the others in the mural are detailed with perfection,,

yet the manchild behind the lattice is a painted fiction within a desired mount pleasant of a three pronged upheld truth,,

afteral it is all greek to this one,,

much love,,
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This intrigues me, I dont know how they will test him and declare him to the world. they do believe he will ride a donkey into town though...


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In describing the advent of Moshiach, the Prophet states,[3] "He will be lowly and riding upon a donkey." Pirkei D'Rav Eliezer[4] notes that this is the same donkey mentioned by Moses, as is written,[5] "And Moses set them (his family) upon a donkey" and it is the same donkey used by Abraham, as in,[6] "and he saddled his donkey" (in preparing for the akeidah - (the binding of Isaac upon the altar).

Is this factor, that Moshiach will ride on a donkey of such paramount importance? Does it matter how Moshiach will come? And of what significance is it to know whose donkey it is? Obviously, as our Sages see it, there is more to it than the physical animal itself.

............

The goal of Mattan-Torah will be revealed through Moshiach.

We find, however, a distinction in the use of the donkey by Abraham, Moses and Moshiach.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Have you explored the hebrew gematria of the torah word used for "donkey"?
What have you found?
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Apollo, I thought I had seen that painting somewhere. Here is someone doing their own "translation" of the picture:


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Thank you friend. Good example on portraying the qoute : "Anti Christ" We may bring out the popcorn cause this will be some show...
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:muralboy:

Why is the floor red and black? What is the masonic significance of a red and black checkerboard floor as opposed to a black and white checkerboard floor?

I don't need a link and pages of detailed explanations along with numerous diagrams.

Just give me a brief summary, if you care to.
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Where do you see black?
I see Red and White and Green under the pyramid.
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Hope you all enjoy fighting G-ds chosen one..
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You can stand and fight for your God. YHWH and his temple Yehushua will fight for Israel. For me I stand with YHWH and Yehushua and not your God.
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...the spirit does not fight,nor wishes any other soul to do so but become spirit again...the spirit seeks unity, not division..it is the souls of the world whom divide,you shall know them by their fruits..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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 Quoting: Rayrayz


Apollo, I thought I had seen that painting somewhere. Here is someone doing their own "translation" of the picture:


 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Thank you friend. Good example on portraying the qoute : "Anti Christ" We may bring out the popcorn cause this will be some show...
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Apollo,
Check out how the artist placed the lad's feet.
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maybe he is simply don-ned with the keys,, too the house of david,,

as all thus prior crowns were hollow,,


much love,,
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I'm of the opinion YES they are annointed.
Perhaps even moreso than others.
Who would be more annointed in the Eye of God than a Judas character - without whom no prophecy would be fulfilled!
Without the fulfillment of prophecy none would believe and the story would not perpetuate.
 Quoting: SE


I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


The creator is in heaven TC.. We're just the creation... And Lucifer is just another creation gone bad.
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for the things that can not be thought it must be experianced. this is the reason of existance of what we Choose to labell as Evil.
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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interesting indeed,,

apollo creed,,

and how do you profess to test this manchild?,,

should he/her ever be found?,,

as the others in the mural are detailed with perfection,,

yet the manchild behind the lattice is a painted fiction within a desired mount pleasant of a three pronged upheld truth,,

afteral it is all greek to this one,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 24003475


This intrigues me, I dont know how they will test him and declare him to the world. they do believe he will ride a donkey into town though...


[link to www.sichosinenglish.org]

In describing the advent of Moshiach, the Prophet states,[3] "He will be lowly and riding upon a donkey." Pirkei D'Rav Eliezer[4] notes that this is the same donkey mentioned by Moses, as is written,[5] "And Moses set them (his family) upon a donkey" and it is the same donkey used by Abraham, as in,[6] "and he saddled his donkey" (in preparing for the akeidah - (the binding of Isaac upon the altar).

Is this factor, that Moshiach will ride on a donkey of such paramount importance? Does it matter how Moshiach will come? And of what significance is it to know whose donkey it is? Obviously, as our Sages see it, there is more to it than the physical animal itself.

............

The goal of Mattan-Torah will be revealed through Moshiach.

We find, however, a distinction in the use of the donkey by Abraham, Moses and Moshiach.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Have you explored the hebrew gematria of the torah word used for "donkey"?
What have you found?
 Quoting: SE


Hello Friend ! Yes ! Ill start in English first, into Jewish Gematria. We were talking about emerging out of the water earlier and salt of course is the material body and one of stone of the philosophers in the form of shed tears...so the results of this is awesome...

DONKEY 509

Jewish Gematria 509
swamps, marshes
"Gardener".
"Bridge".
"Deaf";
"Craftsmen".
MemYodMem-VauLamedZainYod
VauNunYodPehAyinPehAyin
--- let our eyelids flow with water (shed tears).

Like Chancey Gardner (You can see the Masonic Eye and Pyramid in this clip and he walks on water after..)

Listen to the whispers in the movie. THE PEOPLE IN THIS SOCIETY NEED TO BE ENLIGHTENED..


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And they say, What do we know of Chancy Gardner?

Answer, Absolutely nothing !

This could be a asset...
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Jesus is the only truth. He is returning soon and will destroy those who have made this world so wicked.
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no one can make the world wicked without first thinking themselves wicked..therefore when people remember who they were and who they are and who they will be ,then the world will know peace as peace starts within...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Apollo, I thought I had seen that painting somewhere. Here is someone doing their own "translation" of the picture:


 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Thank you friend. Good example on portraying the qoute : "Anti Christ" We may bring out the popcorn cause this will be some show...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24059808


Apollo,
Check out how the artist placed the lad's feet.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


The 90 degree square.. hf


:cubemar:
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interesting indeed,,

apollo creed,,

and how do you profess to test this manchild?,,


should he/her ever be found?,,

as the others in the mural are detailed with perfection,,

yet the manchild behind the lattice is a painted fiction within a desired mount pleasant of a three pronged upheld truth,,

afteral it is all greek to this one,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 24003475


Great question!
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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He won't reveal himself. Only a total God-Damned fool would do so. Israel would rips it's own guts out arguing over whether or not He was the true messiah.

A.I. I appreciate you valiant nature in holding up this light but you fail to recognize the fundamentals of human nature especially Israeli human nature. They are the most contentious people to ever walk the face of the earth. I have been there and felt their spirit. They would rip their Moshiach to pieces! They have done it before and will do it again and again and again and again and again...
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An easy answer is, God couldn't care less about your humanity. It's a learning tool for the Soul. Life is a school where we learn about duality; life/death, suffering/happiness, ignorance/wisdom, etc.
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in the words of jimmy hendrix,,

when the power of love is greator than the love of power,,

only then will we know peace,,

much love,,
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SE, now Ill do the Gematria for CHAMOR which is Hebrew for Donkey...
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I guess satan anoints into darkness his own..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189
satan lies, therefore satan is a lie..there are no scapegoats for souls to blame but themselves for being stubborn and stiff necked to whom they were and still are>they acknowledge the creation instead of the creator that they are..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


The creator is in heaven TC.. We're just the creation... And Lucifer is just another creation gone bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063189


for the things that can not be thought it must be experianced. this is the reason of existance of what we Choose to labell as Evil.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker
...i label nothing as evil but only a test to pass to higher learning...if you love you do not see anything as evil,they are only poor souls who have lost their way back to before the beginning of creation...compassion would be a better word to know them..without compassion change cannot happen..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/19/2012 11:53 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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If you want a good Masonic themed movie . Watch BEING THERE with Peter Sellers, Good stuff !
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interesting indeed,,

apollo creed,,

and how do you profess to test this manchild?,,

should he/her ever be found?,,

as the others in the mural are detailed with perfection,,

yet the manchild behind the lattice is a painted fiction within a desired mount pleasant of a three pronged upheld truth,,

afteral it is all greek to this one,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 24003475


This intrigues me, I dont know how they will test him and declare him to the world. they do believe he will ride a donkey into town though...

 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Here is a False Dragon.

jackassnuts
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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LOL ! funny SS


Ok, the Gematria of CHAMOR (donkey) is 172


"Son of my People".
"Lordly".

to cut, cleave asunder, wound, split, divide (used of the Red Sea

"He Shines",

grapes.

to spin or weave, to bind; to plot, to deceive
to be bulging, protuberant or prominent; to take by the heel, to supplant.

a heel; hoof; step or foot print; the rear (of an army); a deceiver or supplanter, a plotting foe.

prominent or hilly; a hill or knoll; deceitful or treacherous;deceived or betrayed.

the end or last, to the end or for ever; reward or pay.
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Moshiach will have been born in 1948 just as Israel came back in 1948. Moshiach is hidden in Isaiah as Jacob that becomes Israel the man so when you think you are reading about Israel the nation it is talking also of this hidden man
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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He won't reveal himself. Only a total God-Damned fool would do so. Israel would rips it's own guts out arguing over whether or not He was the true messiah.

A.I. I appreciate you valiant nature in holding up this light but you fail to recognize the fundamentals of human nature especially Israeli human nature. They are the most contentious people to ever walk the face of the earth. I have been there and felt their spirit. They would rip their Moshiach to pieces! They have done it before and will do it again and again and again and again and again...
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Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready...
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SE, now Ill do the Gematria for CHAMOR which is Hebrew for Donkey...
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At least you got the direction right.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Moshiach will have been born in 1948 just as Israel came back in 1948. Moshiach is hidden in Isaiah as Jacob that becomes Israel the man so when you think you are reading about Israel the nation it is talking also of this hidden man
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Theres always double meanings, yes.

As Above, So Below, As Within, So Without.
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He won't reveal himself. Only a total God-Damned fool would do so. Israel would rips it's own guts out arguing over whether or not He was the true messiah.

A.I. I appreciate you valiant nature in holding up this light but you fail to recognize the fundamentals of human nature especially Israeli human nature. They are the most contentious people to ever walk the face of the earth. I have been there and felt their spirit. They would rip their Moshiach to pieces! They have done it before and will do it again and again and again and again and again...
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100%
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LOL ! funny SS


Ok, the Gematria of CHAMOR (donkey) is 172


"Son of my People".
"Lordly".

to cut, cleave asunder, wound, split, divide (used of the Red Sea

"He Shines",

grapes.

to spin or weave, to bind; to plot, to deceive
to be bulging, protuberant or prominent; to take by the heel, to supplant.

a heel; hoof; step or foot print; the rear (of an army); a deceiver or supplanter, a plotting foe.

prominent or hilly; a hill or knoll; deceitful or treacherous;deceived or betrayed.

the end or last, to the end or for ever; reward or pay.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Does that Gematria stuff really work? I think it is kind of hokey. For example, when i put in my full birth name, the very first hits are:

Jesus
Forehead to be Sealed
Yeshua Hamashiach


So, what would that possibly mean to me. Nothing.

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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we want no part of this world ,so when we leave again, we will take the memory with us as not to ever return...for to return again would be 3 strikes and everyone would be out...so enjoy our last incarnation here, after this we will explain what we have learned chasing the wind..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...

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