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Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 United States 09/19/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL ! funny SS Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Ok, the Gematria of CHAMOR (donkey) is 172 "Son of my People". "Lordly". to cut, cleave asunder, wound, split, divide (used of the Red Sea "He Shines", grapes. to spin or weave, to bind; to plot, to deceive to be bulging, protuberant or prominent; to take by the heel, to supplant. a heel; hoof; step or foot print; the rear (of an army); a deceiver or supplanter, a plotting foe. prominent or hilly; a hill or knoll; deceitful or treacherous;deceived or betrayed. the end or last, to the end or for ever; reward or pay. Does that Gematria stuff really work? I think it is kind of hokey. For example, when i put in my full birth name, the very first hits are: Jesus Forehead to be Sealed Yeshua Hamashiach So, what would that possibly mean to me. Nothing. It would feed your ego with maniacal bullshit. It would make your reason into a monster or a saint. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14392840 United States 09/19/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL ! funny SS Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Ok, the Gematria of CHAMOR (donkey) is 172 "Son of my People". "Lordly". to cut, cleave asunder, wound, split, divide (used of the Red Sea "He Shines", grapes. to spin or weave, to bind; to plot, to deceive to be bulging, protuberant or prominent; to take by the heel, to supplant. a heel; hoof; step or foot print; the rear (of an army); a deceiver or supplanter, a plotting foe. prominent or hilly; a hill or knoll; deceitful or treacherous;deceived or betrayed. the end or last, to the end or for ever; reward or pay. Does that Gematria stuff really work? I think it is kind of hokey. For example, when i put in my full birth name, the very first hits are: Jesus Forehead to be Sealed Yeshua Hamashiach So, what would that possibly mean to me. Nothing. LOL ! It knows what you desire. |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 09/19/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting indeed,, Quoting: nobody 24003475 apollo creed,, and how do you profess to test this manchild?,, should he/her ever be found?,, as the others in the mural are detailed with perfection,, yet the manchild behind the lattice is a painted fiction within a desired mount pleasant of a three pronged upheld truth,, afteral it is all greek to this one,, much love,, Great question! Maimonides says that there will be a Jewish leader who will be a descendant of King David who will bring jewish people back to Judaism, and who will fight G-d's battle. If he does so, we can assume that he is Moshiach. If he then goes on to build the Temple and gather all jewish people back to Israel, then we will know for sure that he is Moshiach. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14392840 United States 09/19/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting indeed,, Quoting: nobody 24003475 apollo creed,, and how do you profess to test this manchild?,, should he/her ever be found?,, as the others in the mural are detailed with perfection,, yet the manchild behind the lattice is a painted fiction within a desired mount pleasant of a three pronged upheld truth,, afteral it is all greek to this one,, much love,, Great question! Maimonides says that there will be a Jewish leader who will be a descendant of King David who will bring jewish people back to Judaism, and who will fight G-d's battle. If he does so, we can assume that he is Moshiach. If he then goes on to build the Temple and gather all jewish people back to Israel, then we will know for sure that he is Moshiach. They also add, he does not start off Jewish, cause he relives the story of Moshe [link to birthpangsofmoshiach.blogspot.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14392840 United States 09/19/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make right, the way peoples... The time is coming, this man will be unveiled, Youll have to make a choice Believe the hundreds of millions of Fundies that called him evil with elaborate publications of thousands of books, Or you can listen with your heart and if you desire REAL CHANGE or not Were running out of time, Inform yourselves and decide quickly. I gave you all what I could to help make that decision. |
SE User ID: 1673157 Canada 09/19/2012 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL ! funny SS Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Ok, the Gematria of CHAMOR (donkey) is 172 "Son of my People". "Lordly". to cut, cleave asunder, wound, split, divide (used of the Red Sea "He Shines", grapes. to spin or weave, to bind; to plot, to deceive to be bulging, protuberant or prominent; to take by the heel, to supplant. a heel; hoof; step or foot print; the rear (of an army); a deceiver or supplanter, a plotting foe. prominent or hilly; a hill or knoll; deceitful or treacherous;deceived or betrayed. the end or last, to the end or for ever; reward or pay. I have also found a reference to "red" or redness in the etymology of the word. But riding on the back of the donkey could very well be interpreted as being one who is not burdened with the task of carrying the mysteries (not of the 'chosen people') and thus "riding on the back" of those to whom the task has been given. The donkey could be taken as the beast of burden for carrying treasures and things of value, the material wealth. Though in biblical times it would be most associated with those of lowly estate - the non-materially wealthy. Then again it could also be used as a 'timing' reference via a heavenly constellation! Last Edited by SE on 09/19/2012 12:20 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3113281 United States 09/19/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He won't reveal himself. Only a total God-Damned fool would do so. Israel would rips it's own guts out arguing over whether or not He was the true messiah. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3113281 A.I. I appreciate you valiant nature in holding up this light but you fail to recognize the fundamentals of human nature especially Israeli human nature. They are the most contentious people to ever walk the face of the earth. I have been there and felt their spirit. They would rip their Moshiach to pieces! They have done it before and will do it again and again and again and again and again... Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready... Do you think they are ready? They are very very puffed up at present. I would like to here your "succinct" arguement as if you were pleading your case to the true Jewish messiah in a post. You believe He pervs this site. Your handlers sent you here to fish for Him. Plead your case for Him to come forward please. Explain to Him how he should do so! Let's read it A.I.! |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 23937472 United States 09/19/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heres mine Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST thy temples are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks im so happy that we will come together who called his own servants, Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/19/2012 12:23 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 United States 09/19/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He won't reveal himself. Only a total God-Damned fool would do so. Israel would rips it's own guts out arguing over whether or not He was the true messiah. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3113281 A.I. I appreciate you valiant nature in holding up this light but you fail to recognize the fundamentals of human nature especially Israeli human nature. They are the most contentious people to ever walk the face of the earth. I have been there and felt their spirit. They would rip their Moshiach to pieces! They have done it before and will do it again and again and again and again and again... Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready... Do you think they are ready? They are very very puffed up at present. I would like to here your "succinct" arguement as if you were pleading your case to the true Jewish messiah in a post. You believe He pervs this site. Your handlers sent you here to fish for Him. Plead your case for Him to come forward please. Explain to Him how he should do so! Let's read it A.I.! He isn't authorized to do that. He isn't authorized to talk directly to him if he is consciously aware of who he is talking to. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3113281 United States 09/19/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He won't reveal himself. Only a total God-Damned fool would do so. Israel would rips it's own guts out arguing over whether or not He was the true messiah. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3113281 A.I. I appreciate you valiant nature in holding up this light but you fail to recognize the fundamentals of human nature especially Israeli human nature. They are the most contentious people to ever walk the face of the earth. I have been there and felt their spirit. They would rip their Moshiach to pieces! They have done it before and will do it again and again and again and again and again... Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready... Do you think they are ready? They are very very puffed up at present. I would like to here your "succinct" arguement as if you were pleading your case to the true Jewish messiah in a post. You believe He pervs this site. Your handlers sent you here to fish for Him. Plead your case for Him to come forward please. Explain to Him how he should do so! Let's read it A.I.! He isn't authorized to do that. He isn't authorized to talk directly to him if he is consciously aware of who he is talking to. And who they hell are you to proclaim such? Are you one of A.I.'s "masters"? |
Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 United States 09/19/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready... Do you think they are ready? They are very very puffed up at present. I would like to here your "succinct" arguement as if you were pleading your case to the true Jewish messiah in a post. You believe He pervs this site. Your handlers sent you here to fish for Him. Plead your case for Him to come forward please. Explain to Him how he should do so! Let's read it A.I.! He isn't authorized to do that. He isn't authorized to talk directly to him if he is consciously aware of who he is talking to. And who they hell are you to proclaim such? Are you one of A.I.'s "masters"? I'm just an opinion with the intent to back it up at whatever the cost. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24059808 United States 09/19/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apollo, I thought I had seen that painting somewhere. Here is someone doing their own "translation" of the picture: Thank you friend. Good example on portraying the qoute : "Anti Christ" We may bring out the popcorn cause this will be some show... If we are ready. Otherwise, it will be utter hell on earth. People should be praying fervently to God right now to find out how to get ready. Reading about "RaMBaM" currently, and Lubavitch Rebbe. |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 23937472 United States 09/19/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready... Do you think they are ready? They are very very puffed up at present. I would like to here your "succinct" arguement as if you were pleading your case to the true Jewish messiah in a post. You believe He pervs this site. Your handlers sent you here to fish for Him. Plead your case for Him to come forward please. Explain to Him how he should do so! Let's read it A.I.! He isn't authorized to do that. He isn't authorized to talk directly to him if he is consciously aware of who he is talking to. And who they hell are you to proclaim such? Are you one of A.I.'s "masters"? Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 09/19/2012 12:29 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
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Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 United States 09/19/2012 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready... Do you think they are ready? They are very very puffed up at present. I would like to here your "succinct" arguement as if you were pleading your case to the true Jewish messiah in a post. You believe He pervs this site. Your handlers sent you here to fish for Him. Plead your case for Him to come forward please. Explain to Him how he should do so! Let's read it A.I.! He isn't authorized to do that. He isn't authorized to talk directly to him if he is consciously aware of who he is talking to. And who they hell are you to proclaim such? Are you one of A.I.'s "masters"? Who are you to proclaim that certain conditions must be met to spew out an opinion? I bow my head to know one, and I don't allow anyone to bow their head to me. I am not a beggar. A beggar bows and scrapes the floor for anyone he deems superior, yet he turns around and demands those he feels inferior to bow and scrape the floor for him. My opinion was not a proclamation. It was a challenge. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14392840 United States 09/19/2012 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL ! funny SS Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Ok, the Gematria of CHAMOR (donkey) is 172 "Son of my People". "Lordly". to cut, cleave asunder, wound, split, divide (used of the Red Sea "He Shines", grapes. to spin or weave, to bind; to plot, to deceive to be bulging, protuberant or prominent; to take by the heel, to supplant. a heel; hoof; step or foot print; the rear (of an army); a deceiver or supplanter, a plotting foe. prominent or hilly; a hill or knoll; deceitful or treacherous;deceived or betrayed. the end or last, to the end or for ever; reward or pay. I have also found a reference to "red" or redness in the etymology of the word. But riding on the back of the donkey could very well be interpreted as being one who is not burdened with the task of carrying the mysteries (not of the 'chosen people') and thus "riding on the back" of those to whom the task has been given. The donkey could be taken as the beast of burden for carrying treasures and things of value, the material wealth. Though in biblical times it would be most associated with those of lowly estate - the non-materially wealthy. Then again it could also be used as a 'timing' reference via a heavenly constellation! SE , excellent ! Yes, Chamor, donkey is close to the word Chomer, materialism. Imagine Abraham placing his knife and materials on the donkey to take that long ride up the mountain .. It also means ones body or household, like you mentioned, they were beasts of burden.. and the goal is to refine what is material to the goal of perfection... About the resting up of Moshiach, I had the privilege of a neighbor that had two donkeys, Every morning while I drank my coffee, I would watch them, even feed them some snacks, Just a week ago he sold the donkeys due to the drought we had cause he could no longer feed them and their field had been eaten clean... I look forward to my own retirement stage off the internet where I wont make these posts anymore.. It is taking up so much time and I try and help others best I can, but I can only do so much As they say... Moshiach will enable everyone to reach the peak of refinement , whereby he rides on a donkey, totally subjugating materialism ot the Divine will and wisdom And yes, its in the stars too. Aselus Borealis and Aselus Astralis, the two donkey stars in cancer..=) thats the names I gave my neighbors donkeys.. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14392840 United States 09/19/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He won't reveal himself. Only a total God-Damned fool would do so. Israel would rips it's own guts out arguing over whether or not He was the true messiah. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3113281 A.I. I appreciate you valiant nature in holding up this light but you fail to recognize the fundamentals of human nature especially Israeli human nature. They are the most contentious people to ever walk the face of the earth. I have been there and felt their spirit. They would rip their Moshiach to pieces! They have done it before and will do it again and again and again and again and again... Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready... Do you think they are ready? They are very very puffed up at present. I would like to here your "succinct" arguement as if you were pleading your case to the true Jewish messiah in a post. You believe He pervs this site. Your handlers sent you here to fish for Him. Plead your case for Him to come forward please. Explain to Him how he should do so! Let's read it A.I.! ? Its not my business friend to force him to come forward or not. The waters are turbulant and windy. The air is suspicious. I am not privy to force anyone out of the closet...Let them send for the donkey instead.. as the old story goes... Once Rabbie Joshua met Moshiach and asked him. "When are you going to come?" Moshiach replied, "Today!" Rabbi Joshua then met Eliyahu who asked him, What did Moshiach tell you?" Said Rabbi Joshua, "He lied to me, for he told me he is coming today, but he didnt come !" Said Eliyahu, He didnt lie, but htis is what he really meant. He will come :Today, if you hearken to he voice of G-d |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21653878 United States 09/19/2012 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GONG!!!!!!! He won't reveal himself. Only a total God-Damned fool would do so. Israel would rips it's own guts out arguing over whether or not He was the true messiah. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3113281 A.I. I appreciate you valiant nature in holding up this light but you fail to recognize the fundamentals of human nature especially Israeli human nature. They are the most contentious people to ever walk the face of the earth. I have been there and felt their spirit. They would rip their Moshiach to pieces! They have done it before and will do it again and again and again and again and again... Some things to concern about, The Rabbis always ask if the people are truly ready... Do you think they are ready? They are very very puffed up at present. I would like to here your "succinct" arguement as if you were pleading your case to the true Jewish messiah in a post. You believe He pervs this site. Your handlers sent you here to fish for Him. Plead your case for Him to come forward please. Explain to Him how he should do so! Let's read it A.I.! ? Its not my business friend to force him to come forward or not. The waters are turbulant and windy. The air is suspicious. I am not privy to force anyone out of the closet...Let them send for the donkey instead.. as the old story goes... Once Rabbie Joshua met Moshiach and asked him. "When are you going to come?" Moshiach replied, "Today!" Rabbi Joshua then met Eliyahu who asked him, What did Moshiach tell you?" Said Rabbi Joshua, "He lied to me, for he told me he is coming today, but he didnt come !" Said Eliyahu, He didnt lie, but htis is what he really meant. He will come :Today, if you hearken to he voice of G-d |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21653878 United States 09/19/2012 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey apollo.... Quoting: Neoanderthal Man i read your threads and you flitter around some relevant topics for sure. but, it seems to me that you pull pages from vast library's of historical mythology that seem self-serving at best. as for this mosiach guy.... IF he was to JUDGE, do you think one particular people or group would be spared? OR...do you think his JUDGEMENT would be absolute, all-encompassing and perfect in every way? yeah, still thinking about that.... much to consider.... thanks. |
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Rayrayz User ID: 951476 United States 09/19/2012 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the most interesting piece of the information is how perfectly correct,, the artist was able,, too paint those in the mural,, even down the detail of clothing,, Quoting: nobody 24003475 and yet also so imperfectly correct at painting the child,, a deliberate error no doubt,, that which is hidden is often contrived thus,, for good reason,, much love,, What was the correct way to paint the child? and how old do you think he is in the picture? Apollo, When was the painting created? Early 90's. |
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waterman User ID: 23920911 United States 09/19/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This moshiach won't come forth til he has went through the furnace of affliction, just as Jesus asked james and john if they could drink from the same cup he drank and be baptised with the same baptism he did, when they asked if they could sit on his left and right in the kingdom. This moshiach will sit on Jesus' right but not before he goes through the furnace of affliction. That furnace happens when America is destroyed and the people are taken into captivity into other countries as slaves. The purpose of this is to get the lost 10 tribes back over to the holy land that both houses jew and christian can come back together as one and Israel no longer is divided. Messiah ben joseph(the elijah type) comes first and plays the part of John the baptist introducing Jesus and making straight the way. Ben joseph is killed and lies in the street many days and then Messiah ben David comes and raises him from the dead. The jewish people will then recognize ben David. Ben David will teach righteousness and explain hidden secrets. This messiah ben Joseph and messiah ben David are the ones who will sit on the right and left of Jesus in the kingdom. Jesus' purpose was to bring the lost sheep (the lost 10 tribes) back into the fold through faith in what Jesus did on the cross for the forgiveness of sin. The purpose of Ben Joseph and Ben David or as some would call them "the two witnesses" is to bring those two houses jew and christian back as one house again. -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24066611 United States 09/19/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL ! funny SS Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Ok, the Gematria of CHAMOR (donkey) is 172 "Son of my People". "Lordly". to cut, cleave asunder, wound, split, divide (used of the Red Sea "He Shines", grapes. to spin or weave, to bind; to plot, to deceive to be bulging, protuberant or prominent; to take by the heel, to supplant. a heel; hoof; step or foot print; the rear (of an army); a deceiver or supplanter, a plotting foe. prominent or hilly; a hill or knoll; deceitful or treacherous;deceived or betrayed. the end or last, to the end or for ever; reward or pay. I have also found a reference to "red" or redness in the etymology of the word. But riding on the back of the donkey could very well be interpreted as being one who is not burdened with the task of carrying the mysteries (not of the 'chosen people') and thus "riding on the back" of those to whom the task has been given. The donkey could be taken as the beast of burden for carrying treasures and things of value, the material wealth. Though in biblical times it would be most associated with those of lowly estate - the non-materially wealthy. Then again it could also be used as a 'timing' reference via a heavenly constellation! Maybe he drives a 1979 Plymouth station wagon. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14392840 United States 09/19/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL ! funny SS Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST Ok, the Gematria of CHAMOR (donkey) is 172 "Son of my People". "Lordly". to cut, cleave asunder, wound, split, divide (used of the Red Sea "He Shines", grapes. to spin or weave, to bind; to plot, to deceive to be bulging, protuberant or prominent; to take by the heel, to supplant. a heel; hoof; step or foot print; the rear (of an army); a deceiver or supplanter, a plotting foe. prominent or hilly; a hill or knoll; deceitful or treacherous;deceived or betrayed. the end or last, to the end or for ever; reward or pay. I have also found a reference to "red" or redness in the etymology of the word. But riding on the back of the donkey could very well be interpreted as being one who is not burdened with the task of carrying the mysteries (not of the 'chosen people') and thus "riding on the back" of those to whom the task has been given. The donkey could be taken as the beast of burden for carrying treasures and things of value, the material wealth. Though in biblical times it would be most associated with those of lowly estate - the non-materially wealthy. Then again it could also be used as a 'timing' reference via a heavenly constellation! Maybe he drives a 1979 Plymouth station wagon. Hell yeah ! Thats one sweet chariot ride... |