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The truth about the book of Revelation.

 
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The truth about the book of Revelation.
When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form.

This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing.

It is preserved in only fragmentary and adulterated form.


The Urantia book Revelation. Paper 139.
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pics or it didnt happen.
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... your future, Urantia:

Revelation 22:18 ... if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
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Thank God someone posted that.

Even as a Bible believing Christian, the abrupt ending was obvious.
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... your future, Urantia:

Revelation 22:18 ... if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
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It's too late now. The book of revelation you have is fragmented and adultered yet.
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In terms of content, the structure of Revelation is built around four successive groups of seven: the messages to the seven churches, the seven seals, the seven trumpets, and finally, the seven bowl judgments.The repeated occurrence of the number seven contributes to the overall unity of Revelation. While several numbers stand out: 3, 4, 7, 10, 12, 24, 144, 1000, the number seven appears to have a special significance. In fact, there are twenty-four distinct occurrences of the use of "seven."Seven is considered the number of perfection in Christianity.
One half of seven, 3½, is also a conspicuous number in Revelation: two witnesses are given power to prophesy 1,260 days, or exactly 3½ years, according to the Hebrew year of 360 days; the witnesses are then killed, and their dead bodies lie in the streets of Jerusalem for 3½ days; the "woman clothed with the sun" is protected in the wilderness for 1,260 days, or 3½ years;Gentiles tread the holy city underfoot for 42 months, or 3½ years;and the beast is given authority to continue for 42 months, or 3½ years.
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And the book of Urania is the truth? By whoms authority?
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And the book of Urania is the truth? By whoms authority?
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You should read it with a pure heart and juge by yourself.
It's a big book. My prefered now. And before i was a bible reader or believer for more than thirty years.

For me the Urantia book is a great gift from our Father in Heaven.

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the book of revelation talks strictly about
government...aka beast
religion...aka false prophet
and the mark, or allegiance to these two systems
oh and lets not forget MONEY...thats the mark for you

the new world will be without governments, money, and religion.

can not anyone see thats the problem.
we keep repeating the same crap over and over

well for those who know this
freedom is in the air

but im no one so believe what you want
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When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form.

This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing.

It is preserved in only fragmentary and adulterated form.


The Urantia book Revelation. Paper 139.
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The Urantia Book (sometimes called the Urantia Papers or The Fifth Epochal Revelation) is a spiritual and philosophical book that discusses God, Jesus, science, cosmology, religion, history and destiny.It originated in Chicago sometime between 1924 and 1955. The authorship remains unverified
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A teaching from it:

(1007.4) 92:4.4 There have been many events of religious revelation but only five of epochal significance.

These were as follows:
......

(1008.1) 92:4.8 4. Jesus of Nazareth. Christ Michael presented for the fourth time to Urantia the concept of God as the Universal Father, and this teaching has generally persisted ever since. The essence of his teaching was love and service, the loving worship which a creature son voluntarily gives in recognition of, and response to, the loving ministry of God his Father; the freewill service which such creature sons bestow upon their brethren in the joyous realization that in this service they are likewise serving God the Father.

(1008.2) 92:4.9 5. The Urantia Papers. The papers, of which this is one, constitute the most recent presentation of truth to the mortals of Urantia.

These papers differ from all previous revelations, for they are not the work of a single universe personality but a composite presentation by many beings.

But no revelation short of the attainment of the Universal Father can ever be complete.

All other celestial ministrations are no more than partial, transient, and practically adapted to local conditions in time and space.

While such admissions as this may possibly detract from the immediate force and authority of all revelations, the time has arrived on Urantia when it is advisable to make such frank statements, even at the risk of weakening the future influence and authority of this, the most recent of the revelations of truth to the mortal races of Urantia.

[link to www.urantia.org]
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And the book of Urania is the truth? By whoms authority?
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You should read it with a pure heart and juge by yourself.
It's a big book. My prefered now. And before i was a bible reader or believer for more than thirty years.

For me the Urantia book is a great gift from our Father in Heaven.
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You would do well to consider the pro-Melchizidek bias in the book.

It is an interesting and valuable read, but far from perfect.

The 'annihilation decrees' are not working, and rebellion breaks out worse as a result of them. Notice how every reference to the equivalent of 'eternal damnation' has been omitted.
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And the book of Urania is the truth? By whoms authority?
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You should read it with a pure heart and juge by yourself.
It's a big book. My prefered now. And before i was a bible reader or believer for more than thirty years.

For me the Urantia book is a great gift from our Father in Heaven.
 Quoting: Orange



You would do well to consider the pro-Melchizidek bias in the book.

It is an interesting and valuable read, but far from perfect.

The 'annihilation decrees' are not working, and rebellion breaks out worse as a result of them. Notice how every reference to the equivalent of 'eternal damnation' has been omitted.
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I am confident that "They" know what they are doing.

Thank you.

A UB quote that i like a lot:

(1223.3) 111:7.1 Uncertainty with security is the essence of the Paradise adventure — uncertainty in time and in mind, uncertainty as to the events of the unfolding Paradise ascent; security in spirit and in eternity, security in the unqualified trust of the creature son in the divine compassion and infinite love of the Universal Father; uncertainty as an inexperienced citizen of the universe; security as an ascending son in the universe mansions of an all-powerful, all-wise, and all-loving Father.

hf
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Julius Piso wrote Revelations in 136 AD
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Julius Piso wrote Revelations in 136 AD
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Of all the discourses which the Master gave his apostles, none ever became so confused in their minds as this one, given this Tuesday evening on the Mount of Olives, regarding the twofold subject of the destruction of Jerusalem and his own second coming.

There was, therefore, little agreement between the subsequent written accounts based on the memories of what the Master said on this extraordinary occasion.

Consequently, when the records were left blank concerning much that was said that Tuesday evening, there grew up many traditions; and very early in the second century a Jewish apocalyptic about the Messiah written by one Selta, who was attached to the court of the Emperor Caligula, was bodily copied into the Matthew Gospel and subsequently added (in part) to the Mark and Luke records.

It was in these writings of Selta that the parable of the ten virgins appeared.

No part of the gospel record ever suffered such confusing misconstruction as this evening’s teaching.

But the Apostle John never became thus confused.
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The Urantia book = uninspired gnostic nonsense.


The books of the Bible have proven inspiration from God the creator who we have known as Jesus.


1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show to his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel to his servant John:
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Julius Piso wrote Revelations in 136 AD
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Revelation

The author of the Book of Revelation is John. "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John," (Rev. 1:1). "Justin Martyr (Dialogue with Trypho, p. 308) (A.D.. 139–161) quotes from the Apocalypse, as John the apostle’s work."7

Revelation was probably written at the end of John the Apostle's life. Some hold to the 90's and it is the last book written in the New Testament.

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The Urantia book = uninspired gnostic nonsense.


The books of the Bible have proven inspiration from God the creator who we have known as Jesus.


1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show to his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel to his servant John:
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Just an other UB teaching:

....The personal viewpoint of Paul of Tarsus. And it should be recorded that Mithraism was the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence.

Paul little dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be regarded by still later Christians as the “word of God.”

Such well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable for the use made of their writings by later-day successors.

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Julius Piso wrote Revelations in 136 AD
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Revelation

The author of the Book of Revelation is John. "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John," (Rev. 1:1). "Justin Martyr (Dialogue with Trypho, p. 308) (A.D.. 139–161) quotes from the Apocalypse, as John the apostle’s work."7

Revelation was probably written at the end of John the Apostle's life. Some hold to the 90's and it is the last book written in the New Testament.

[link to carm.org]
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(1341.2) 121:8.1 As far as possible, consistent with our mandate, we have endeavored to utilize and to some extent co-ordinate the existing records having to do with the life of Jesus on Urantia. Although we have enjoyed access to the lost record of the Apostle Andrew and have benefited from the collaboration of a vast host of celestial beings who were on earth during the times of Michael’s bestowal (notably his now Personalized Adjuster), it has been our purpose also to make use of the so-called Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

(1341.3) 121:8.2 These New Testament records had their origin in the following circumstances:

...

(1342.5) 121:8.10 4. The Gospel of John. The Gospel according to John relates much of Jesus’ work in Judea and around Jerusalem which is not contained in the other records.

This is the so-called Gospel according to John the son of Zebedee, and though John did not write it, he did inspire it. Since its first writing it has several times been edited to make it appear to have been written by John himself.

When this record was made, John had the other Gospels, and he saw that much had been omitted; accordingly, in the year A.D. 101 he encouraged his associate, Nathan, a Greek Jew from Caesarea, to begin the writing. John supplied his material from memory and by reference to the three records already in existence.

He had no written records of his own. The Epistle known as “First John” was written by John himself as a covering letter for the work which Nathan executed under his direction.

(1342.6) 121:8.11 All these writers presented honest pictures of Jesus as they saw, remembered, or had learned of him, and as their concepts of these distant events were affected by their subsequent espousal of Paul’s theology of Christianity.

And these records, imperfect as they are, have been sufficient to change the course of the history of Urantia for almost two thousand years.

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(539.4) 47:10.2 John the Revelator saw a vision of the arrival of a class of advancing mortals from the seventh mansion world to their first heaven, the glories of Jerusem.

He recorded: “And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire; and those who had gained the victory over the beast that was originally in them and over the image that persisted through the mansion worlds and finally over the last mark and trace, standing on the sea of glass, having the harps of God, and singing the song of deliverance from mortal fear and death.

” (Perfected space communication is to be had on all these worlds; and your anywhere reception of such communications is made possible by carrying the “harp of God,” a morontia contrivance compensating for the inability to directly adjust the immature morontia sensory mechanism to the reception of space communications.)

(539.5) 47:10.3 Paul also had a view of the ascendant-citizen corps of perfecting mortals on Jerusem, for he wrote: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, to the grand assembly of Michael, and to the spirits of just men being made perfect.”
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A teacher once told me that:

Right hand = action
Forehead = thoughts

What you think and do
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If you want to know, I will tell you a little secret about Revelations. It is John's anointing, It says so in the title, revelations or the anointing Of John. Or put another the way the christing of John, an inward process that all must and will go through at some point, be it now or later. It describes the trial and tribulations, inner conflicts that we all have and will experience on the road to awakening to who and what we really are.

I travail in birth pains till Christ be formed in you...the bible. sk
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“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book,” Revelation 22:18, 19.

Woe to the wretched false Prophets and false teachers!!! Curse them all with plagues.
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And the book of Urania is the truth? By whoms authority?
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They do not even know who the author is. It could have been Satan himself. Fools!
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When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form.

This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing.

It is preserved in only fragmentary and adulterated form.


The Urantia book Revelation. Paper 139.
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You have no idea what you are talking about... and the Book of Revelation is complete and perfectly preserved.
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In terms of content, the structure of Revelation is built around four successive groups of seven: the messages to the seven churches, the seven seals, the seven trumpets, and finally, the seven bowl judgments.The repeated occurrence of the number seven contributes to the overall unity of Revelation. While several numbers stand out: 3, 4, 7, 10, 12, 24, 144, 1000, the number seven appears to have a special significance. In fact, there are twenty-four distinct occurrences of the use of "seven."Seven is considered the number of perfection in Christianity.
One half of seven, 3½, is also a conspicuous number in Revelation: two witnesses are given power to prophesy 1,260 days, or exactly 3½ years, according to the Hebrew year of 360 days; the witnesses are then killed, and their dead bodies lie in the streets of Jerusalem for 3½ days; the "woman clothed with the sun" is protected in the wilderness for 1,260 days, or 3½ years;Gentiles tread the holy city underfoot for 42 months, or 3½ years;and the beast is given authority to continue for 42 months, or 3½ years.
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this is pure bs, just because its on wiki.....means nothing.
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“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book,” Revelation 22:18, 19.
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Beware of false prophets.
You m-m-m-muh-make me HAAA-PEEE.

Psalm 34:14 - Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.

Romans 5:8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form.

This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing.

It is preserved in only fragmentary and adulterated form.


The Urantia book Revelation. Paper 139.
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You have no idea what you are talking about... and the Book of Revelation is complete and perfectly preserved.
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NO ITS NOT. ITS A FUCKED UP MESS AND ANYBODY WITH ANY SORT OF ABILITY TO THINK AND REASON AND PONDER CAN SEE THAT. DITTO MANY OTHER PARTS OF THE BIBLE.
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Bill Cooper said the government had every intention of following the book of Revalations like a movie script in order to manipulate christians and control them. And he said that back in the 80's.

Word to yo mutha.
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Bill Cooper said the government had every intention of following the book of Revalations like a movie script in order to manipulate christians and control them. And he said that back in the 80's.

Word to yo mutha.
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Ridiculous. What TPTB are actually doing is twisting its meaning, not following it. By influencing preachers and authors to allegorize everything, and by pushing the alien invasion story, they are luring not only Christians but all people into a trap. Christians who actually study Bible prophecy (not just Rev.; there are many in the OT still to be fulfilled) will not be fooled.

If TPTB are following any script, it is that they are helpless to prevent what God has ordained.
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