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Its never going away. Period. We have to lean to live with it
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if you are a politician, a muslim or a scientologist you will be exempt

or so I've heard
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ya, sure, only white christians have to pay, right?

Don't make yourself ridiculous.
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Read the damn thing so you don't sound so ignorant
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I posted a long time ago this is what companies were going to do.

The fine for AT&T would have amounted to $2,000 per employee, costing the company a grand total of $600 million a year. Maintaining benefits, meanwhile, will cost the firm some $4.6 billion.


So they can save 4 billion a year and tell employees to get their own coverage.

Just what did government Think companies were going to do??

Always the unintended consequences.......
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Yes, I am seriously considering making sure I do not make more than $20k so that I qualify for the free government health insurance. I will go part time if I have to. And pay less taxes in the end. Maybe even get me some food stamps if I qualify. Probably come out better.

Life is suddenly complicated, and we all have to consider the penalties for making more than 20k.

Seriously, take your salary and deduct 15k to 20k for health insurance after the rise in cost.

What is most cost efficient?

Duh?

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I hope doctors figure out a way around this. Maybe private practices with internal insurance carrier or something? I don't know, but hopefully innovation is not dead.
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no it wont you will be unemployed havent you been listening the markets will completely collapse on or just after the election
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I currently have health insurance with my company. It's a pretty good plan as health insurance plans go, I have heard of worse for sure.

My cost right now is $370 per month to cover myself and my entire family (split over two checks at $185 per check). The company-paid part of our insurance cost the company $15,500 per year, per employee (somewhat less for individuals only but not by much).

I am friends with the HR person as XYZ Corp (not the real name obviously) and this person told me that the company is seriously considering taking the $2000 per employee tax hit for not offering coverage, thereby forcing all of us into the government plan. In their words - "Yeah, this would suck and the coverage would not be nearly as good, but the company would save over $10,000 per employee."

My company has 86 employees. That's $860,000 per year the company would save by forcing us into Obamacare.

Many of us employees have talked about this and even considered walking off the job to at least demand most of the savings back in the form of an increase in pay (since it costs the company XX dollars to employ each of us already) but with the economy as bad as it is, it's risky. Mind you most of us are highly skilled and qualified and the company would take a huge productivity hit if we walked - but then again, saving $860,000 per year - maybe they could absorb it.

I firmly believe that Obamacare, and the current economic situation, are playing hand-in-hand intentionally.

Why did the Dems/Liberals pass Obamacare? To serve their constituents and give them freebies.

Why did the Reps/Conservatives pass Obamacare? To save their fat cat constituents money and pad their wallets.

We can't win with this shit.

Oh well, at least it'll be fun in the "end of days" when all these people are standing in judgement and have to justify themselves. That'll be fun.
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True and False

Yes, it is less expensive for a company to offer the Universal care plan. And of course no employeer would ever refund their savings back to employees. Hence trickle down doesn't work.

Level of care worsens? False, no more PPO lists on which doctors you can see. You have the entire country of doctors to choose from.
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Though I understand Americans hate change, here is what we have in New Zealand.

We are taxed to pay for the free hospitals and free doctors to under six year olds and subsidized doctors visits for the poor.

I am sure this is costing way less than you're currently paying at the moment.

We do not have anybody waiting in an ambulance for medical care while they sort out the insurance.

There is private insurance if you want it but the public system will get you most things.

I find it a comfort that if I get sick all I have to do is get to the hospital, of course they will come and pick me up if I ring for an ambulance.

I think your current system stinks, lots of people there can't afford health care.

Your system needs to change. I bet insurance companies are making a killing?
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Yes, the insurance companies are getting away with murder, literally. They bitch about Obamacare but in the end it will be fine. Funny, the young GOPers bitch about it but they are covered under their parents policies now. I say put your money where your mouth is... if you are so against it stay uninsured, if you think social security is an entitlement stop excepting the checks.
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Their b-tching is a put up job, they made a deal behind closed doors. They get what they want. My insurance has gone up already, with less coverage.
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Better get used to it friend.

This latest Romney fiasco has pissed off even hard core Republicans deep in the heart of East Texas. I was the only anti-Romney person in my work - until today!

There is no way in hell Romney will win. Absolutely zero.

If the Republicans intended to put on a legitimate campaign, they should have chose a competent person.

whatever
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I currently have health insurance with my company. It's a pretty good plan as health insurance plans go, I have heard of worse for sure.

My cost right now is $370 per month to cover myself and my entire family (split over two checks at $185 per check). The company-paid part of our insurance cost the company $15,500 per year, per employee (somewhat less for individuals only but not by much).

I am friends with the HR person as XYZ Corp (not the real name obviously) and this person told me that the company is seriously considering taking the $2000 per employee tax hit for not offering coverage, thereby forcing all of us into the government plan. In their words - "Yeah, this would suck and the coverage would not be nearly as good, but the company would save over $10,000 per employee."

My company has 86 employees. That's $860,000 per year the company would save by forcing us into Obamacare.

Many of us employees have talked about this and even considered walking off the job to at least demand most of the savings back in the form of an increase in pay (since it costs the company XX dollars to employ each of us already) but with the economy as bad as it is, it's risky. Mind you most of us are highly skilled and qualified and the company would take a huge productivity hit if we walked - but then again, saving $860,000 per year - maybe they could absorb it.

I firmly believe that Obamacare, and the current economic situation, are playing hand-in-hand intentionally.

Why did the Dems/Liberals pass Obamacare? To serve their constituents and give them freebies.

Why did the Reps/Conservatives pass Obamacare? To save their fat cat constituents money and pad their wallets.

We can't win with this shit.

Oh well, at least it'll be fun in the "end of days" when all these people are standing in judgement and have to justify themselves. That'll be fun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461956


This does not make since. You make it sound like it was ILLEGAL before Obamacare to not insure employee's. There was NEVER A LAW TO INSURE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. WHY MAKE IT SOUND LIKE OBAMACARE MAKES IT NOW LEGAL TO NOT INSURE YOU. Your company was prob already planning on dumping on insurance prior too OBAMACARE YOU FUCKING IDIOT. This post makes no since at all just another obama hate post on GLP
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I currently have health insurance with my company. It's a pretty good plan as health insurance plans go, I have heard of worse for sure.

My cost right now is $370 per month to cover myself and my entire family (split over two checks at $185 per check). The company-paid part of our insurance cost the company $15,500 per year, per employee (somewhat less for individuals only but not by much).

I am friends with the HR person as XYZ Corp (not the real name obviously) and this person told me that the company is seriously considering taking the $2000 per employee tax hit for not offering coverage, thereby forcing all of us into the government plan. In their words - "Yeah, this would suck and the coverage would not be nearly as good, but the company would save over $10,000 per employee."

My company has 86 employees. That's $860,000 per year the company would save by forcing us into Obamacare.

Many of us employees have talked about this and even considered walking off the job to at least demand most of the savings back in the form of an increase in pay (since it costs the company XX dollars to employ each of us already) but with the economy as bad as it is, it's risky. Mind you most of us are highly skilled and qualified and the company would take a huge productivity hit if we walked - but then again, saving $860,000 per year - maybe they could absorb it.

I firmly believe that Obamacare, and the current economic situation, are playing hand-in-hand intentionally.

Why did the Dems/Liberals pass Obamacare? To serve their constituents and give them freebies.

Why did the Reps/Conservatives pass Obamacare? To save their fat cat constituents money and pad their wallets.

We can't win with this shit.

Oh well, at least it'll be fun in the "end of days" when all these people are standing in judgement and have to justify themselves. That'll be fun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461956


True and False

Yes, it is less expensive for a company to offer the Universal care plan. And of course no employeer would ever refund their savings back to employees. Hence trickle down doesn't work.

Level of care worsens? False, no more PPO lists on which doctors you can see. You have the entire country of doctors to choose from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290769


I think the level of care will worsen as it already has for the elderly and VA patients.

Less doctors and nurses and less dentists, less control over your healthcare, less decisions made between you and your primary... These are not generally considered better than the old system.
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AGAIN NEVER A LAW TO HAVE INSURANCE FOR YOUR COMPANY. NEVER A TAX BREAK FOR HAVING INSURANCE FOR YOUR COMPANY. CAN STILL WRITE OFF INSURANCE FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES JUST LIKE YOU ALWAYS COULD. this post is retarded
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Though I understand Americans hate change, here is what we have in New Zealand.

We are taxed to pay for the free hospitals and free doctors to under six year olds and subsidized doctors visits for the poor.

I am sure this is costing way less than you're currently paying at the moment.

We do not have anybody waiting in an ambulance for medical care while they sort out the insurance.

There is private insurance if you want it but the public system will get you most things.

I find it a comfort that if I get sick all I have to do is get to the hospital, of course they will come and pick me up if I ring for an ambulance.

I think your current system stinks, lots of people there can't afford health care.

Your system needs to change. I bet insurance companies are making a killing?
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That sounds like NY State pre-Obama care.. except post-Obama care.. we are expecting massive shortages of doctors.

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you worry too much comrade!

after the *cough* changes, there will be plenty of trained scientologists to give you state of the art "touch assists"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

cures anything and everything without having to deal with ignorant wogs (non-scientologists)

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Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

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AGAIN NEVER A LAW TO HAVE INSURANCE FOR YOUR COMPANY. NEVER A TAX BREAK FOR HAVING INSURANCE FOR YOUR COMPANY. CAN STILL WRITE OFF INSURANCE FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES JUST LIKE YOU ALWAYS COULD. this post is retarded
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In case you didn't know, this post is about the effects of this healthcare scheme is effecting the OP.

And the healthcare scheme fundamentally changes the healthcare system in this country. It fundamentally changes patient and doctor relations.
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I currently have health insurance with my company. It's a pretty good plan as health insurance plans go, I have heard of worse for sure.

My cost right now is $370 per month to cover myself and my entire family (split over two checks at $185 per check). The company-paid part of our insurance cost the company $15,500 per year, per employee (somewhat less for individuals only but not by much).

I am friends with the HR person as XYZ Corp (not the real name obviously) and this person told me that the company is seriously considering taking the $2000 per employee tax hit for not offering coverage, thereby forcing all of us into the government plan. In their words - "Yeah, this would suck and the coverage would not be nearly as good, but the company would save over $10,000 per employee."

My company has 86 employees. That's $860,000 per year the company would save by forcing us into Obamacare.

Many of us employees have talked about this and even considered walking off the job to at least demand most of the savings back in the form of an increase in pay (since it costs the company XX dollars to employ each of us already) but with the economy as bad as it is, it's risky. Mind you most of us are highly skilled and qualified and the company would take a huge productivity hit if we walked - but then again, saving $860,000 per year - maybe they could absorb it.

I firmly believe that Obamacare, and the current economic situation, are playing hand-in-hand intentionally.

Why did the Dems/Liberals pass Obamacare? To serve their constituents and give them freebies.

Why did the Reps/Conservatives pass Obamacare? To save their fat cat constituents money and pad their wallets.

We can't win with this shit.

Oh well, at least it'll be fun in the "end of days" when all these people are standing in judgement and have to justify themselves. That'll be fun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461956


True and False

Yes, it is less expensive for a company to offer the Universal care plan. And of course no employeer would ever refund their savings back to employees. Hence trickle down doesn't work.

Level of care worsens? False, no more PPO lists on which doctors you can see. You have the entire country of doctors to choose from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290769


I think the level of care will worsen as it already has for the elderly and VA patients.

Less doctors and nurses and less dentists, less control over your healthcare, less decisions made between you and your primary... These are not generally considered better than the old system.
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Dont you get it! Instead of VA hospitals, they can NOW access every hospital in the world. The level of care will be going through the roof.
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I currently have health insurance with my company. It's a pretty good plan as health insurance plans go, I have heard of worse for sure.

My cost right now is $370 per month to cover myself and my entire family (split over two checks at $185 per check). The company-paid part of our insurance cost the company $15,500 per year, per employee (somewhat less for individuals only but not by much).

I am friends with the HR person as XYZ Corp (not the real name obviously) and this person told me that the company is seriously considering taking the $2000 per employee tax hit for not offering coverage, thereby forcing all of us into the government plan. In their words - "Yeah, this would suck and the coverage would not be nearly as good, but the company would save over $10,000 per employee."

My company has 86 employees. That's $860,000 per year the company would save by forcing us into Obamacare.

Many of us employees have talked about this and even considered walking off the job to at least demand most of the savings back in the form of an increase in pay (since it costs the company XX dollars to employ each of us already) but with the economy as bad as it is, it's risky. Mind you most of us are highly skilled and qualified and the company would take a huge productivity hit if we walked - but then again, saving $860,000 per year - maybe they could absorb it.

I firmly believe that Obamacare, and the current economic situation, are playing hand-in-hand intentionally.

Why did the Dems/Liberals pass Obamacare? To serve their constituents and give them freebies.

Why did the Reps/Conservatives pass Obamacare? To save their fat cat constituents money and pad their wallets.

We can't win with this shit.

Oh well, at least it'll be fun in the "end of days" when all these people are standing in judgement and have to justify themselves. That'll be fun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461956


True and False

Yes, it is less expensive for a company to offer the Universal care plan. And of course no employeer would ever refund their savings back to employees. Hence trickle down doesn't work.

Level of care worsens? False, no more PPO lists on which doctors you can see. You have the entire country of doctors to choose from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290769


I think the level of care will worsen as it already has for the elderly and VA patients.

Less doctors and nurses and less dentists, less control over your healthcare, less decisions made between you and your primary... These are not generally considered better than the old system.
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Dont you get it! Instead of VA hospitals, they can NOW access every hospital in the world. The level of care will be going through the roof.
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And I work with Physicians, they ALL want it.
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The last 2 years our family has gotten a refund on the amount we paid the insurance company. They have to use a certain amount of the amount of the policy to pay for health care. I never got a refund before from any insurance company. This is all going to lead to government run health care. It is inevitable.

All those who complain have never been without health insurance and been sick. You would think of this as a blessing.

Have you ever met a senior who didn't like their Medicare ? Just try and take it away from them. We should all have it.
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So we are better off to not have individual insurance.
Who is John Galt?
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The last 2 years our family has gotten a refund on the amount we paid the insurance company. They have to use a certain amount of the amount of the policy to pay for health care. I never got a refund before from any insurance company. This is all going to lead to government run health care. It is inevitable.

All those who complain have never been without health insurance and been sick. You would think of this as a blessing.

Have you ever met a senior who didn't like their Medicare ? Just try and take it away from them. We should all have it.
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So we are better off to not have individual insurance.
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Yes. I can foresee people getting rid of their limiting expensive employee insurance for a less expensive, expansive coverage.

Fox News sure has brainwashed people.
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Isn't it just amazing that the sewer rat bastards in washington (and elsewhere) can make a "law" that strips our wallets and we can do nothing? Just because THEY SAY SO!!! If we don't pay we get penalized, jailed, fined...THIS IS COMMUNISM PEOPLE. What the hell is there about what's happened here that the average moron does not understand?
And...the libtards are rat sewer bastards as well...all they want to do is sit on they're asses...drink beer, smoke pot and watch tv. What the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I posted a long time ago this is what companies were going to do.

The fine for AT&T would have amounted to $2,000 per employee, costing the company a grand total of $600 million a year. Maintaining benefits, meanwhile, will cost the firm some $4.6 billion.


So they can save 4 billion a year and tell employees to get their own coverage.

Just what did government Think companies were going to do??

Always the unintended consequences.......
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Yes, I am seriously considering making sure I do not make more than $20k so that I qualify for the free government health insurance. I will go part time if I have to. And pay less taxes in the end. Maybe even get me some food stamps if I qualify. Probably come out better.

Life is suddenly complicated, and we all have to consider the penalties for making more than 20k.

Seriously, take your salary and deduct 15k to 20k for health insurance after the rise in cost.

What is most cost efficient?

Duh?
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Anyone know what the cut-off is per couple (no dependents)?
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oops. doublepost
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Obamacare is going to deny quality healthcare to the middle class OR cause the middle class wage earners to fork over a SIZEABLE portion of their earnings over to a health insurance provider to ensure their families receive timely, quality healthcare.

And the reasons for having passed the Obamacare legislation from the Demonrat and Republitard perspectives are EXACTLY what the OP said; it was done to give a perk to constituents (Demonrats) or line constituents' pockets (Republitards).

All congress critters that helped pass the Obamacare legislation deserve to lose their seat AND be barred from running for any public office ever again.
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Hey yeah...lets just bring the whole frigging world in here and us low lifes will pay for EVERYONE...why...everyone has rights...(except us work horses, of course) lets bring evvvveryyyoneeeee in here .....we'll support the whole world and rat bastard in the white house will still be playing golf, going on low life tv shows (illiterate scum that he is...he can't do anything else)...but your right they will all rot in hell...,but not soon enough.
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Dont you get it! Instead of VA hospitals, they can NOW access every hospital in the world. The level of care will be going through the roof.
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And I work with Physicians, they ALL want it.


I don't believe Obamacare covers forign hospitals (and they would have to accept it first anyway).

I had a frank discussion with my PC and he doesn't like it one bit, nor does many of his colleges. Your crusade to make the Obama Tax appear fruitful for the nation is an utter and complete failure and flies in the face of facts. Your fictitious world doesn't exist and I don't watch Fox News, so please don't go there. (Well, I do watch it once in a blue moon if something big is happening, but I tend to channel surf so that doesn't count!)
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Though I understand Americans hate change, here is what we have in New Zealand.

We are taxed to pay for the free hospitals and free doctors to under six year olds and subsidized doctors visits for the poor.

I am sure this is costing way less than you're currently paying at the moment.

We do not have anybody waiting in an ambulance for medical care while they sort out the insurance.

There is private insurance if you want it but the public system will get you most things.

I find it a comfort that if I get sick all I have to do is get to the hospital, of course they will come and pick me up if I ring for an ambulance.

I think your current system stinks, lots of people there can't afford health care.

Your system needs to change. I bet insurance companies are making a killing?
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It does need to change. But when only 49% pay taxes it is...for lack of better words...taxing on those that work to pay for themselves and EVERYBODY else.

Fucking lazy assed entitlement tards need to get fucking jobs and stop reproducing.
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STOP REPRODUCING!
Who is John Galt?
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AGAIN NEVER A LAW TO HAVE INSURANCE FOR YOUR COMPANY. NEVER A TAX BREAK FOR HAVING INSURANCE FOR YOUR COMPANY. CAN STILL WRITE OFF INSURANCE FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES JUST LIKE YOU ALWAYS COULD. this post is retarded
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20946188


In case you didn't know, this post is about the effects of this healthcare scheme is effecting the OP.

And the healthcare scheme fundamentally changes the healthcare system in this country. It fundamentally changes patient and doctor relations.
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Insurance from any company is a luxury Obamacare does not change healthcare or how a company spends money for coverage.
It ONLY effect's company's that do not have insurance for their employees.

There was NEVER a Tax, Fee, or penalty Prior to Obamacare the only reason his company would be dropping insurance is because they can no longer afford it year long. It is something that you can get a tax write off for which makes it free to the business at the end of the year. What it tells me is OP's company is already afraid it will not make it that long.
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Why not cancel 5 years ago save alot of $$$ ASSHOLE
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Mittens "Mr Business Man" Romney assisted in writing Obamacare to save corporations big bucks! And wait till he takes away your home interest deduction from your taxes too!

Wake up Sheeple...you been duped!

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Why did the Dems/Liberals pass Obamacare? To serve their constituents and give them freebies.

Why did the Reps/Conservatives pass Obamacare? To save their fat cat constituents money and pad their wallets.
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I watched senate debate late nights at time of health reform. Democrats and Republicans both are crooks. I was confused if Obama did something good for the middle class, but they all serve the Industrialist. They give a fuck about the middle class. I am retired Engineer from one of the big Auto and I am telling you when you can no longer able to work and see your family hurting, it will be hard to swallow. They all hide their profits with different schemes and make you believe that they are penny less. I want to say a lot and I would have given you proof. For example in 2009 GM filed for Bankruptcy here in USA but according to their internal Financial report they had 66 billion profits in china. There is no reason for them to throw their retirees under the bus or to cut the Medical Insurance of their families. They did it in ways that they were saving money. The present fight of shifting the Pension. GM is saving $ 26 Billion. What they did with Delphi, or other GM subsidiaries is the same. If you have 58 minutes to spare, I suggest to watch this video

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Dont you get it! Instead of VA hospitals, they can NOW access every hospital in the world. The level of care will be going through the roof.
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And I work with Physicians, they ALL want it.
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I don't believe Obamacare covers forign hospitals (and they would have to accept it first anyway).

I had a frank discussion with my PC and he doesn't like it one bit, nor does many of his colleges. Your crusade to make the Obama Tax appear fruitful for the nation is an utter and complete failure and flies in the face of facts. Your fictitious world doesn't exist and I don't watch Fox News, so please don't go there. (Well, I do watch it once in a blue moon if something big is happening, but I tend to channel surf so that doesn't count!)


My doc doesn't like it, either. If you think about it most docs are most likely republicans aka Obama haters. Not a good year to see doctors, they are all too political and upset this year. Next year they may get mad and leave and then we'll have H1Bvisa docs from India or perhaps more Muslims coming in to take care of our bodies.
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Re: Here is exactly how "Obamacare" will affect me and my family starting next year.....
If you are on GLP and done enough research, well doctors aren't exactly your best friend and there's a cure for everything.... so why don't you opt out of any insurance and just be healthy? I haven't had health insurance for 2 years now and eating healthy and taking vitamins... doctors are worthless and just wanna take your money for dumb stuff that is curable without them going in and messing it up more for you becoming dependent on their worthless prescriptions that keep you staying sick with the band-aid method. WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU DON'T NEED THEM OR THEIR INSURANCE. just saying. its really upsetting to me.
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But you will have to pay a PENALTY for choosing this route.
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