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Scripture states the Church is the source of Truth, the RCC alone proclaims she is the Church Jesus established

 
Taruwah

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No, the popes go back even further, to the first pontifex maximus (about 400 BC).

Vicar of Christ = Antechrist (in place of the anointed).

Both Christianity and Jesus were inventions of Constantine I and the Council of Nicene, nothing to do with the Jewish Messiah and the Jewish Scriptures (the only bit of the bible not written by Jewish men was the bit in Daniel written by Nebuchadnezzar).
Seek FIRST the Kingdom of YHWH and His knowledge of Good and Bad (righteousness) , for He says "My ways are not thy ways"
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Cafflicism is as Christian as a bucket of poo.

Cafflicism is blasphemy.
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Jesus did not found any one church.. certainly not the one in Rome. Jesus founded the Christian church which is the body of believers. Paul then went around founding MANY churches, including one at Rome, which was NOT the RC. The RC was not formed until Constantine in the 4th century.
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Our Lord founded One Church. Through the centuries
because of pride people broke away from Christ's
Church, the RCC.

Peter was the first Pope, read Scripture and history. I'll post the unbroken line of papal succession. God has always named an authority on earth.

Matthew 16:18-19
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.


The Remnant is Roman Catholic. Look forward to your
conversion. hugs
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"Upon this rock I will build my church"

The OT reveals to us over and over again - THAT GOD IS "THE ROCK" AND "OUR ROCK".

There can never be another one called the rock.

Our church MUST be built upon God or it will FAIL. We are the temple know which houses the Holy Spirit.
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Brothol ... Whos that wheres the gun.
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Nebro , whatever.

Shoot
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Nabroo .. Shoot
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Jesus did not found any one church.. certainly not the one in Rome. Jesus founded the Christian church which is the body of believers. Paul then went around founding MANY churches, including one at Rome, which was NOT the RC. The RC was not formed until Constantine in the 4th century.
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Our Lord founded One Church. Through the centuries
because of pride people broke away from Christ's
Church, the RCC.

Peter was the first Pope, read Scripture and history. I'll post the unbroken line of papal succession. God has always named an authority on earth.

Matthew 16:18-19
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.


The Remnant is Roman Catholic. Look forward to your
conversion. hugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


"Upon this rock I will build my church"

The OT reveals to us over and over again - THAT GOD IS "THE ROCK" AND "OUR ROCK".

There can never be another one called the rock.

Our church MUST be built upon God or it will FAIL. We are the temple know which houses the Holy Spirit.
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It's Biblical and a fact, the primacy of Peter.
Read your "Bible Alone", Jesus gave the Peter the
"keys", like David. Keys are a sign of authority.

Remember, ignore if you want but how foolish, when God
changes a man's name...it's very important. Our Lord
changed Simon's name to Peter which means ROCK.

Our Lord said "My Church", singular, the same Church
that gave you your Bible. The Remnant is Catholic, you
will "see" at the time of the Great Warning (Rev 6:15-17), I wish before the Warning....

John 1:42
And he brought him to Jesus. And Jesus looking upon him, said: Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is interpreted Peter.


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Folks,

Those of you who go on rejecting the faith and
prophecy and Mary's help...you truly gotta change.
Events prophesied are very close. To a seer, Light
of Mary from Brazil, I post an except from her latest message ohyeah about this generation.

[link to www.catholicbinder.com]

September 16, 2012

..."My Son wants faithful and decided children, brave warriors of love who do not fear being despised because of Him and that live with a willing commitment knowing that they dwell within an aimless society, enticed by what is malignant, easy and temporary.

Being unaware of the reality in which you live, the events take you by surprise. By not believing you discredit My Word, you distort it and mock it so as to continue with your evil behavior.

This is the Generation in which the very spawn of satan will flaunt his power and give man the bitterness of his own bad behavior to drink, subjecting him and chaining him to base instincts.

This is the Generation that runs between false leaders and false prophets that deny Divine Justice so as to justify man’s sinful acts.

This is also the Generation that will discover great hidden secrets.

This is the Generation that will experience the Great Warning.

This is the Generation that My Son loves and that I will not abandon.

Beloved children of My Heart, My Word is Motherly and at the same time will guide you to understand the truth that has not been taught clearly, Truth that is a shield of protection and salvation for man.

The horsemen have ridden extensively over the Earth and the human eye, limited by man himself and his dark mind, has not been able to perceive them with his vision or his turbid spirit. Are these not the signs you expected? Are these not the men who do not fear and scorn what is Divine?

This is the generation that will suffer the great plague already announced by this, My faithful instrument.

This is the generation of changes. This is the instant of man’s ascension into reality, which in every instant has been before him and he has not seen it.

Yes, children, it is you who will experience the changes, opening thresholds of knowledge and you will live the time in which the wheat will be separated from the weeds.

This Generation is the one that has received the prophecies and nevertheless has NOT softened its heart. This is why only the Holy Remnant will be the one to ascend with a humble heart and a mind open to the Divine Word. You will be accompanied by your Heavenly Guardians to be protected by them."...
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...


Our Lord founded One Church. Through the centuries
because of pride people broke away from Christ's
Church, the RCC.

Peter was the first Pope, read Scripture and history. I'll post the unbroken line of papal succession. God has always named an authority on earth.

Matthew 16:18-19
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.


The Remnant is Roman Catholic. Look forward to your
conversion. hugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213

As most Catholics, you do not have any true understanding of the scriptures.

Christ and the faith in His divinity is the rock that the church was built upon; and the church is all those who believe in Him. When Jesus asked who the apostles say He was, Peter answered that He was the Christ, the Son of God... THIS TRUTH is the rock that the church is built upon, NOT on a mortal man (as the corrupt and blasphemous Catholic Church teach).

Besides, the apostle Peter had nothing to do with the Roman Catholic Church. The Great Whore church was started by Simon Peter Magus; the very same man who tried to buy the Holy Spirit and was rebuked. He then went to Rome and started his false church that the scriptures refer to as the Antichrist (because it is a church in direct opposition to the teachings of Christ and the Word of God).
 Quoting: THE TRUTH 22397205


This is so true and forever we have heard that Peter was the rock and in fact over and over JESUS CHRIST is the ROCK. Not only that, the true church could not form until JESUS died, buried, and arose. Then we have the real church, the church of GRACE.
 Quoting: sandpiper

Correct... and furthermore, Catholics like to point to Christ's words, "thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church..." as evidence that Peter is the rock.

However, that is not what Jesus was saying! The word translated as Peter is "petros" and it means "little pebble", and the word Christ used for rock is "petra" and it means "massive stone" or "bedrock". Christ was making a clear distinction between the apostles and Himself, and declaring that He was the rock! When Christ said "upon this petra" he was referring not to Peter personally, but to what Peter had just said... that Jesus was the Christ and Son of God and the rock that His church would be built.
 Quoting: THE TRUTH 22397205


you speak the truth

who is Jezebel? Rev 2:20 [sorry; from: authorized King James version]

thank you in advance
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I went to Catholic College and have many dear Catholics I love.

It is Christ who saves me, not an institution.

There is no need to confess my sin to a priest, Christ is my High Priest and intercessor.

Scripture warns explicitly about those who will forbid to marry... that is precisely what Catholic leadership has done to the priests.

Scripture tells us to call no man "Father" except God in heaven.

When you have one man submitting to another mortal man in this fashion you then have the sexual problems in the church.

The lost 10 tribes are in the Catholic church. They will be saved.
JerUSAlem! Do you know where the new promised land is?

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Jefferson

Laughter is health to the bones so just do it!
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Folks,

Those of you who go on rejecting the faith and
prophecy and Mary's help...you truly gotta change.
Events prophesied are very close. To a seer, Light
of Mary from Brazil, I post an except from her latest message ohyeah about this generation.

[link to www.catholicbinder.com]

September 16, 2012

..."My Son wants faithful and decided children, brave warriors of love who do not fear being despised because of Him and that live with a willing commitment knowing that they dwell within an aimless society, enticed by what is malignant, easy and temporary.

Being unaware of the reality in which you live, the events take you by surprise. By not believing you discredit My Word, you distort it and mock it so as to continue with your evil behavior.

This is the Generation in which the very spawn of satan will flaunt his power and give man the bitterness of his own bad behavior to drink, subjecting him and chaining him to base instincts.

This is the Generation that runs between false leaders and false prophets that deny Divine Justice so as to justify man’s sinful acts.

This is also the Generation that will discover great hidden secrets.

This is the Generation that will experience the Great Warning.

This is the Generation that My Son loves and that I will not abandon.

Beloved children of My Heart, My Word is Motherly and at the same time will guide you to understand the truth that has not been taught clearly, Truth that is a shield of protection and salvation for man.

The horsemen have ridden extensively over the Earth and the human eye, limited by man himself and his dark mind, has not been able to perceive them with his vision or his turbid spirit. Are these not the signs you expected? Are these not the men who do not fear and scorn what is Divine?

This is the generation that will suffer the great plague already announced by this, My faithful instrument.

This is the generation of changes. This is the instant of man’s ascension into reality, which in every instant has been before him and he has not seen it.

Yes, children, it is you who will experience the changes, opening thresholds of knowledge and you will live the time in which the wheat will be separated from the weeds.

This Generation is the one that has received the prophecies and nevertheless has NOT softened its heart. This is why only the Holy Remnant will be the one to ascend with a humble heart and a mind open to the Divine Word. You will be accompanied by your Heavenly Guardians to be protected by them."...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


Whats her number? come on, really? Sorry this is just too much
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The sad thing for the RCC is it's loss of moral credibility with sex abuse scandals.

I truly feel for those with pure hearts trapped in this institution.

I also would warn all the mind control, torment and the inquisition that should be repented of.

Many lost lives and property in Europe from the machine of the Catholic inquisition.

Christ never forced truth or conversion... it was a drawing of the heart to repentance and truth.
JerUSAlem! Do you know where the new promised land is?

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Jefferson

Laughter is health to the bones so just do it!
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Folks,

Those of you who go on rejecting the faith and
prophecy and Mary's help...you truly gotta change.
Events prophesied are very close. To a seer, Light
of Mary from Brazil, I post an except from her latest message ohyeah about this generation.

[link to www.catholicbinder.com]

September 16, 2012

..."My Son wants faithful and decided children, brave warriors of love who do not fear being despised because of Him and that live with a willing commitment knowing that they dwell within an aimless society, enticed by what is malignant, easy and temporary.

Being unaware of the reality in which you live, the events take you by surprise. By not believing you discredit My Word, you distort it and mock it so as to continue with your evil behavior.

This is the Generation in which the very spawn of satan will flaunt his power and give man the bitterness of his own bad behavior to drink, subjecting him and chaining him to base instincts.

This is the Generation that runs between false leaders and false prophets that deny Divine Justice so as to justify man’s sinful acts.

This is also the Generation that will discover great hidden secrets.

This is the Generation that will experience the Great Warning.

This is the Generation that My Son loves and that I will not abandon.

Beloved children of My Heart, My Word is Motherly and at the same time will guide you to understand the truth that has not been taught clearly, Truth that is a shield of protection and salvation for man.

The horsemen have ridden extensively over the Earth and the human eye, limited by man himself and his dark mind, has not been able to perceive them with his vision or his turbid spirit. Are these not the signs you expected? Are these not the men who do not fear and scorn what is Divine?

This is the generation that will suffer the great plague already announced by this, My faithful instrument.

This is the generation of changes. This is the instant of man’s ascension into reality, which in every instant has been before him and he has not seen it.

Yes, children, it is you who will experience the changes, opening thresholds of knowledge and you will live the time in which the wheat will be separated from the weeds.

This Generation is the one that has received the prophecies and nevertheless has NOT softened its heart. This is why only the Holy Remnant will be the one to ascend with a humble heart and a mind open to the Divine Word. You will be accompanied by your Heavenly Guardians to be protected by them."...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


question for poster: Anonymous Coward 20541213

who determines if a series of "signs/prophesies/miracles" is/are "authentic/bona fide"?

[could it be if it serves someone's agenda?]

for example; lets say someone "declares" they are "experiencing" "signs/miracles" from "God/apostles/angels"

the first reaction from the "spiritually wounded" is that the person is "crazy/schizophrenic"

then; the religious "zealots" accuse that person of "blasphemy"; intimate "Faith" requires you to "turn-your-back" to God; else that "person/voice" be Satan influencing that receiving the "message" is then the "anti-Christ"

also; who paid for that nice fancy website; ie. webmaster fees?
Link:
[link to www.catholicbinder.com]

1dunno1
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The "church" is not a building, nor is it a pagan institution.
The "church" from the greek "ekklesia" is the born again,
blood washed congregation of believers,
called "The Body of Christ".
The saved, redeemed sons and daughters of the living God,
written in the Lamb's Book of Life have NOTHING to
do with the human institution known as the Roman Catholic
church which is a superstitious, pagan abomination
that has far more in common with the Babylonian Mystery
religion, than Biblical Christianity, which it masquerades
as.

If you want me to enumerate the demonic practices
of the RCC, I would be glad to.
The RCC is truly the broad path that leads it's followers
to destruction.
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"Whatever their religion, all those attached to beliefs and rituals that take them away from the essential reality of light, warmth and life are the cause of great misfortune. If only they would turn to the sun to learn its lessons! The sun says, ‘Look at me. I’m constantly sending you my riches; surely you can do the same.’ But, in order to force their notion of God on others even though not one of them has seen him, humans prefer to massacre each other until there’s no one left. And, actually, no one has ever seen God, but the sun gives us the best image of him.

The sun is the best expression of divine perfection. It distributes light, warmth and life to all and isn’t bothered about knowing whether someone is Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim or Buddhist. For the sun, everyone is a child of God. Sooner or later, humans will no longer be able to ignore this reality, and they will find the one true religion. Then, even Christians will understand that Christ is none other than the spirit of the sun. They will feel the Lord himself, full of love, present in the sun. "

hf
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where's the RCC people?

who is Jezebel? Rev 2:20

[from: authorized King James version]

thank you in advance

Likewise; i posted another question [see above]

regarding [above] Link:
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WHO GETS TO "DICTATE/DECIDE" WHAT IS A "MIRACLE/SIGN/MESSAGE" FROM GOD ?????????????????????
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what you guys ought to do is share the/your journey
[be positive/nurturing/helpful]

share with each other in a humble, non-judging manner; leave pride/self-righteousness behind

the point is we all are "reaching/searching".

not say, "...my religion is beter than yours'...nah nah na nah na..".

recognize the Spirit is in ALL of us

much Love to all of you

hf
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Priest has been changed in the Gospel to the word "elder" in Protestant Bibles and I wonder, I should check if the word bishop has been changed too?

There is a hierarchy, a consecrated ministerial priesthood in the New Covenant. The Church is not an invisible
group of believers.

The "illumination of conscience" (Rev 6:15-17) is soon. You can't go on believing the Church, the faith is whatever you wish to believe, God is going to make it clear to every
soul, Christian and non-Christian.

+ + +

Message from Jesus to a Chosen Child in Chicago

September 7, 2012 (9:13am)

Tell My beloved children there is still time to get your life back in order before the great trial of your soul before God. This will be an Illumination where your soul will be judged as if you had died and went before God. My dear ones, this is something that none of you will escape. From the youngest to the oldest your sins will be revealed to you. For some who have been living a sinful life for many years it will be frightening since all your mortal sins will be on a large screen that will have your sins portrayed in still shots so you will see how horrible your sins really are. You will be made aware of how many lives your sins affected. Once these things have been done and all of you have been exposed for how you really are there will be very little if any time to save your soul from eternal damnation. I know this sounds harsh, but that is the reality. There will be no more Mercy since My period of Justice will begin. The demons will be everywhere causing more and more temptations. I'm aware that most of you won't believe this will happen. This is most unfortunate since your very souls are at risk. Don't wait any longer My dear ones or it may be too late. Now that all the talks and rhetoric have been given preceding the elections, the Administration is getting more confident they will win. Soon the miracle will take place and they will be devastated since there is no way they can stop it. Keep praying My children. We will win the battle. I love you, Jesus.
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To bee or not to bee lol

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The list of catholic heresies are endless.
[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

Their crimes and murders and the slaughter of innocent christians are legendary. They will give an account for this. In fact God will allow the antichrist power for the explicit purpose of destroying and ravaging the catholic church. Come out of her my people for she is the whore of Babylon....


Rev. 17

"15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”
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what you guys ought to do is share the/your journey
[be positive/nurturing/helpful]

share with each other in a humble, non-judging manner; leave pride/self-righteousness behind


the point is we all are "reaching/searching".

not say, "...my religion is beter than yours'...nah nah na nah na..".

recognize the Spirit is in ALL of us

much Love to all of you

hf
 Quoting: PPaiwonski


PP, hf

No one is judging, only pointing to the prophetic for these
end of times, constantly speaking the truth of the Faith.

There is only one. Ephesians 4:5 states there is One Lord, one Faith, one Baptism, logically...one Church.

Study Catholicism, read the Catechism, it's on line and the English translation of the first Bible, the Vulgate. It is the Douay-Rheims Bible. [link to www.drbo.org] The footnotes help in understanding
why the Church teaches what she does. Read the writings
of the saints. Read current prophecy. Yahoo Groups - Seers
2 or direct ~ [link to www.catholicbinder.com]

It's interesting, all the non-Catholic Christian prophecy
keeps speaking of "unity", "oneness of belief", the "full truth", an "awakening" coming soon. Our Lord's gentle way of preparing non-Catholic Christians to accept the faith.
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The list of catholic heresies are endless.
[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

Their crimes and murders and the slaughter of innocent christians are legendary. They will give an account for this. In fact God will allow the antichrist power for the explicit purpose of destroying and ravaging the catholic church. Come out of her my people for she is the whore of Babylon....


Rev. 17

"15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15851599


Friend,

This is the scary thing, you read anti-Catholic writings and are assured the RCC is wrong, is evil. What will you
do?

Do you see, Satanists do not mock a Protestant preacher
and his Sunday sermon, no, Satanists mimic the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with their Black Masses. Satanists
desecrate the Eucharist when they can steal the Real Presence!

Satan knows the true faith.

The anti-Christ will attempt to abolish the Most Holy Eucharist and why would he do this if it weren't true?
Before this takes place, God in His love is going to show the entire world, the true faith is Roman Catholicism.

Remember, remember is all I can say, okay?

God bless you, hf
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The Coptic and Assyrian Churches had nothing to do with Constantine, and were in existence in the first century AD.
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

MuzzleBreak
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I went to Catholic College and have many dear Catholics I love.

It is Christ who saves me, not an institution.

There is no need to confess my sin to a priest
, Christ is my High Priest and intercessor.

Scripture warns explicitly about those who will forbid to marry... that is precisely what Catholic leadership has done to the priests.


Scripture tells us to call no man "Father" except God in heaven.


When you have one man submitting to another mortal man in this fashion you then have the sexual problems in the church.

The lost 10 tribes are in the Catholic church. They will be saved.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight


I'll address one subject here. Like the Old Covenant, there is a ministerial priesthood in the New Covenant but made greater. Only a priest can offer sacrifice, remember in Daniel, it is repeated...the "continual sacrifice" prophesied. A priest's parish is His family. He can give full attention to those souls. Celibacy is higher thing in God's eyes, that's Scriptural. A priest stands in the place of Christ who was/is a celibate.

Okay, another, Our Lord was using hyperbole when He said
call no man Father. The Apostles and Our Lord addressed
holy men, leaders chosen by God, teachers...as Father.

Alright, a third, look it up, check the Gospel. Jesus said "whose sins you shall forgive" to the Apostles in John 20:23. You have to hear someone's sins to forgive them.


remember, remember, blessings to you Chivalry.
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I looked up John 20:23 in the KJV, to see if there
were any word changes from the original, the Latin
Vulgate.

John 20:23

King James Version (KJV)

23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

The Douay Rheims Bible is a word for word translation of the Vulgate. [link to www.drbo.org]

23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.
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I went to Catholic College and have many dear Catholics I love.

It is Christ who saves me, not an institution.

There is no need to confess my sin to a priest
, Christ is my High Priest and intercessor.

Scripture warns explicitly about those who will forbid to marry... that is precisely what Catholic leadership has done to the priests.


Scripture tells us to call no man "Father" except God in heaven.


When you have one man submitting to another mortal man in this fashion you then have the sexual problems in the church.

The lost 10 tribes are in the Catholic church. They will be saved.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight


I'll address one subject here. Like the Old Covenant, there is a ministerial priesthood in the New Covenant but made greater. Only a priest can offer sacrifice, remember in Daniel, it is repeated...the "continual sacrifice" prophesied. A priest's parish is His family. He can give full attention to those souls. Celibacy is higher thing in God's eyes, that's Scriptural. A priest stands in the place of Christ who was/is a celibate.

Okay, another, Our Lord was using hyperbole when He said
call no man Father. The Apostles and Our Lord addressed
holy men, leaders chosen by God, teachers...as Father.

Alright, a third, look it up, check the Gospel. Jesus said "whose sins you shall forgive" to the Apostles in John 20:23. You have to hear someone's sins to forgive them.


remember, remember, blessings to you Chivalry.
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THE sacrifice has already been made, for all time. No priest required.
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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I went to Catholic College and have many dear Catholics I love.

It is Christ who saves me, not an institution.

There is no need to confess my sin to a priest
, Christ is my High Priest and intercessor.

Scripture warns explicitly about those who will forbid to marry... that is precisely what Catholic leadership has done to the priests.


Scripture tells us to call no man "Father" except God in heaven.


When you have one man submitting to another mortal man in this fashion you then have the sexual problems in the church.

The lost 10 tribes are in the Catholic church. They will be saved.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight


I'll address one subject here. Like the Old Covenant, there is a ministerial priesthood in the New Covenant but made greater. Only a priest can offer sacrifice, remember in Daniel, it is repeated...the "continual sacrifice" prophesied. A priest's parish is His family. He can give full attention to those souls. Celibacy is higher thing in God's eyes, that's Scriptural. A priest stands in the place of Christ who was/is a celibate.

Okay, another, Our Lord was using hyperbole when He said
call no man Father. The Apostles and Our Lord addressed
holy men, leaders chosen by God, teachers...as Father.

Alright, a third, look it up, check the Gospel. Jesus said "whose sins you shall forgive" to the Apostles in John 20:23. You have to hear someone's sins to forgive them.


remember, remember, blessings to you Chivalry.
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THE sacrifice has already been made, for all time. No priest required.
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Then explain the "continual sacrifice" prophesied over
and over again in Daniel? Not only this fact, the faithful
receive God, fully present in the consecrated host. It is
supernatural, you have to believe by faith since you see no
change in consecrated host. And remember what Paul states in 1 Corinthians 11:24, Eucharist means thanks giving.

Since 33 A.D., every hour all around the world, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is offered to God. This is God's plan. You will better understand when God shows you. Jesus one time sacrifice is made present today...the only difference, His sacrifice is offered to the Father in an unbloody manner.


1 Cor 11:24
And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me.
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Sharing another prophecy about the "continual
sacrifice" spoken of in Malachi 1:11. The
"clean oblation"...makes sense...is Our Lord's
presence in the most Holy Eucharist.

For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.
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Mary Clark is the dearest non-Catholic Christian
messenger. She receives light, joy filled messages
from Heaven.

What is the "occurrence?" I am guessing it is the
Great Warning of Revelation 6, see the last verses. It
was prophesied to the Garabandal seers 37 years ago
and previous saints like St. Faustina of Poland.

A Homily – 8

September 20, 2012

I am on the verge of doing something mighty in your midst. Get ready, for this occurrence that is shining forth as I speak is going to open some eyes to the truth of the living God. This occurrence is going to bring delight to My children, and this occurrence is going to reveal that I truly DO live, I live mightily in the hearts of My children. Get ready for this delightful occurrence, knowing that the hour is surely upon you and what I have in mind will delight your heart. Yes, it will bring a delight to My dear children that they have never known or experienced. It is on the verge of happening, dear one. It is right on the verge of happening!!!

verge – edge, threshold, brink, margin, border
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O God, you have willed that your Church

be the sacrament of salvation for all nations,

so that Christ’s saving work

may continue to the end of the ages;

stir up, we pray, the hearts of your faithful

and grant that they may feel a more urgent call

to work for the salvation of every creature,

so that from all the peoples on earth

one family and one people of your own

may arise and increase.

Amen

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