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The market shakeout should start pretty soon ! Gonna Tank all scripted of course !

 
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The market shakeout should start pretty soon ! Gonna Tank all scripted of course !
Markets are gonna tank going into Friday's Quadruple witching. There are a lot of in the money calls that that need to be taken out especially on the metals.

Prepare and Buy the Dip !!
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Think I am full of shit ? Watch and learn folks !!

It will tank all the way into Friday !
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Re: The market shakeout should start pretty soon ! Gonna Tank all scripted of course !
The metals should start tanking now !!

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The metals should start tanking now !!

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The US Dollar caught a strong bid overnight - up 0.75%. That should put downside pressure on stocks today.
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I don't get it. Please explain. Why do they need to drop the price before this weekend? will we see a rally starrting Monday until the end of the year.

I think metals will explode once Obama is confirmed as president, again.
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I don't get it. Please explain. Why do they need to drop the price before this weekend? will we see a rally starrting Monday until the end of the year.

I think metals will explode once Obama is confirmed as president, again.
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You have to understand that the big trading houses and financial institutions canít make money off of (skim) retail investors (because they are out of the market) and they are in direct competition with their peers. Problem is their peers know the game, have the same expertise and the same technology. So you see they canít get the upper hand against each other. Here is what is going on........... They know Bennie and the ink jets will not let the market fail because it is the last place anyone has any "perceived" wealth with their IRA's, 401K's and annuities. Knowing this, they let the suckers (you and me) run up the equities (along with bennie's printed money) through mandated law each week utilizing corrupt money managers that are in the know and playing the same scheme for the same dwindling dollars. As the stocks/equities/commodities trend up (after a wash, rinse and repeat cycle) The "house" through mutual collusion with all three participants (bennie, the suckerís representatives and the house) levitate the market. These Investors frontrun the market with a little seed money and the market increases in value.

Taking a break. I will have the next phase of this scheme laidout within the hour in my next post.
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Re: The market shakeout should start pretty soon ! Gonna Tank all scripted of course !
As the market trends up and mandatory purchases (the game) are made the house jogs for position for the pre planned fall of the market. (having made money on the way up because they know when the rinse cycle is complete and frontrun the wash cycle)

To answer the above question as to why they have to drive the market down before the weekend:

Investors, the house, the suckers tainted representatives and bennie buy stock options which are derivatives of these stocks to place bets on a future sale or purchase price and date. You have to remember the stock options are really just "leverage" and cost many multiples less "to play with" than the actual stocks themselves. So, you can control many more individual stocks/shares in that company or equity without providing the money that you normally would in the open stock market. Letís remember that some investors think the price of a stock will go up and bet on it through purchasing Calls and others think it will go down and buy puts. To the house it does not matter as the buy calls on the way up and buy puts on the way down because they are "The House". Next post we will talk about the regular stocks/shares and how that trading influences the options, also how both enable the house to print/extract fresh money out of the market leaving the suckers holding the bag. Remember this is only one way to extract money out of the market. We are focusing on the Quadruple witching and options that will occur tomorrow and why the market will trend down in stages until the trading stops Friday evening. (unless an unexpected event forces the house to try and outwit (frontrun) each other)
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Re: The market shakeout should start pretty soon ! Gonna Tank all scripted of course !
We know the price of stocks are controlled through the regular market with "market Makers" buying, selling and setting the pricing (middleman that execute the buy sell transactions) of individual stocks. But guess what these market makers are "the House" too.
So, now we have the stocks and everything else that the house wants to game elevated for a coordinated takedown to extract their share of the spoils from the "VIG"
(Difference between where they started the downtrend and where it ends we call that the rinse cycle).
Here we are two days before the stock options expiry and the house now needs to extract the spoils.
This starts with one of the participants more than likely selling legitimate shorts where they borrow shares (out of your equity account like shwabb or Ameristrade) There must be shares available to borrow to be able to sell them into the market short (By law and market protocol it is, but who pays attention to that garbage) laymenís explanation of "Legal" shorting here:
[link to beginnersinvest.about.com]
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For this take down (rinse cycle) we will use the GLD options which are extremely loaded with Calls because of the increase in the price of Gold. (This stock is predicated on the price of real gold) and we know that Bennie just announced unlimited printing of dollars.

The cascade of the selling is started by legitimate shorting as a cover for the takedown. Remember if the price of that "stock or share" is above the option call "Strike Price" on the specific option contract date the call is "in the money" and can be redeemed for the difference from where you bought it, as they will be much more valuable because the price of the underlying stockshare is worth more, because the underlying commodity (Gold) has increased in value. The object of the house is to get you to sell or drive the price of in this case gold to take your calls "out of the money" and move the puts "into the money".
The other alternative is to get you to "Roll" your option into the next contract period so that they donít have to pay on your Call option. In all this you could just redeem your option by taking control of shares that your option represents. But who wants to do that when we can leverage with options and control multiples of shares with the same money than you could, by actually owning the shares.

The question is who would buy Puts because the price of Gold will surely go up from all the currency printing. Well I think you guessed it, that the house bought those puts because they know that there will be coordinated attack on the price of Gold itself. Letís get back to the rinse cycle...
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For this take down (rinse cycle) we will use the GLD options which are extremely loaded with Calls because of the increase in the price of Gold. (This stock is predicated on the price of real gold) and we know that Bennie just announced unlimited printing of dollars.

The cascade of the selling is started by legitimate shorting as a cover for the takedown. Remember if the price of that "stock or share" is above the option call "Strike Price" on the specific option contract date the call is "in the money" and can be redeemed for the difference from where you bought it, as they will be much more valuable because the price of the underlying stockshare is worth more, because the underlying commodity (Gold) has increased in value. The object of the house is to get you to sell or drive the price of in this case gold to take your calls "out of the money" and move the puts "into the money".
The other alternative is to get you to "Roll" your option into the next contract period so that they donít have to pay on your Call option. In all this you could just redeem your option by taking control of shares that your option represents. But who wants to do that when we can leverage with options and control multiples of shares with the same money than you could, by actually owning the shares.

The question is who would buy Puts because the price of Gold will surely go up from all the currency printing. Well I think you guessed it, that the house bought those puts because they know that there will be coordinated attack on the price of Gold itself. Letís get back to the rinse cycle...
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I should have said when the options expire you can take possession of the actual shares and sell them in the open market for your profit or you can sell the option for profit or you can roll the option into the next options period betting that the price will go even higher.
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Re: The market shakeout should start pretty soon ! Gonna Tank all scripted of course !
So basically you're saying, Buy and hold physical gold now, because by closing bell Friday, the big boys will already be in position to gain as gold begins it's continued ascend to the moon. ?

I have another question. Some 'conservative' estimates have gold in the short term at 2400 to 5000. However yesterday I saw reports of of 20k maybe even 50k, with the excuse being since there is qe4ever unlimited printing, then PM's could technically keep going up.

Where do you see gold in the next 3 or 4 months?

PS: I'm one of those pre 1933 liberty gold bugs..stoner
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Re: The market shakeout should start pretty soon ! Gonna Tank all scripted of course !
There is one more element to the rinse cycle and that is called the "Stop Loss Order" This is a market order you can place that will sell your stock automatically if the price of that stock sells off to a threshold that you have set.
Maybe you are at work or attending other business and you canít sit at your computer and watch every tic (bid/ask movement like the pros do)
Setting a stop-loss order for 10% below the price you paid for the stock will limit your loss to 10%.
Read more: [link to www.investopedia.com]

So the selloff to extract starts with some selling that may be legitimate or not. Your stop loss order see's the price has crossed the threshold you have set and sells your stock automatically into the market further putting pressure on the downward movement cascading the price down.
Then the house goes over to their bag of magic tricks and pulls out the most effective tool for extraction and that is called the "naked short" This "electronic" stock cert is just sold into the market without borrowing it from a legitimate source diluting the legitimate value of the underlying "real stock" as they throw these naked shorts into the market. Combined with the shares that they extracted from you gives them even more shares to borrow to themselves for more firepower.
As the price cascades down from all the naked shorting and selling people that have set stop loss orders have their shares sold into the market automatically as the price continues down. This "extraction" occurs in phases, Take it down to a certain point and reclaim those electronic counterfeit stock certs with the help of the market makers creating an illusion that it looks as though it's on the up and up. All while borowing and selling shares from the stash of shares they forced your stop loss order into selling. So what has happened is that your shares have been stolen from you by the ability of the market to game the system. How this game affects the stock option is the same way. People with Calls that were "in the money" are now taken out because their stop loss order has sold their option for them. At the same time that you were taken "out of the money" the Put that the house purchased (frontran you earlier) is now "in the money".
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The thing to watch for and remember is that these extractions are executed in phases. So the market will selloff and then recover and then selloff and recover and......each time pressuring the stock below the last lowest price to extract more stop loss orders and keep the genius's that think they have called a bottom and purchased their automatically sold stop loss stocks back on their heels and selling again as they have set another stop loss order under the stocks that they just bought back. All the while the house is extracting money from not only the transaction through the market maker but also selling, shorting, naked shorting and buying because they know the script for the game being played.
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So to answer your question as to why the price of any stock that is targeted for extraction and option deterioration.
Here is a good laymenís term explanation of what Quadruple witching is and how trading is effected previous to the witching hour.
[link to www.optiontradingpedia.com]

Also remember the game can be played both ways by the house, but in the example of the GLD stock shares, Gold is a commodity that TPTB wants suppressed and to force people into the paper derivative (of it) because it is in direct competition with the dollar itself. The price of Gold is not controlled by the price discovery mechanism of supply and demand that the market is suppose to, but rather priced in paper derivatives exposed to the gaming by the house through the corrupt system called the financial market.
Everything, not only precious metals are exposed to this gaming of the system.
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If someone wants to see the GLD options chain of the Sept 22 "at the money" options (In the money calls on the left and out of the money puts on the right) As you can see the large stack of in the many calls on the left is what they are trying to take out before the Quadruple witching.
Here is the link: Take out the space.

www.nas daq.com/aspxcontent/options2.aspx?symbol=gld&selected=gld&qm_​page=94496&qm_symbol=GLD
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Crashtard prediction FAIL #3,342,323

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lmaolmaolmao
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Screw metals, I'll be buying the market dip. I actually borrowed out of my line of credit to buy some Canadian banks in '09.

I wish I'd bought more since a couple of them have doubled, and they've been paying me dividends the whole time.

Got some dry powder set aside for bottom-fishing this time...

In a few years when this all blows over some peoples' faces sure are gonna be red when their "precious" metals return to previous, sane levels of valuation.
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Crashtard prediction FAIL #3,342,323

:shipfail:

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You didnít even read the thread I can see. Most ignorant people skip over the details like that! Thats ok though.
Keep living in your own little world (basement)
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Your application of logic,reason and proper market theory is invalid Wall Street is now just a fucking casino with 80 percent plus computer trading by large corporations with unlimited funds from Bernanke,next year America's economy will probably collapse on your heads but you'll have dow 17000.

With the accounting standards in your country especially off balance sheet items no astute investor can properly value your companies shares anymore your market is highly over valued but with unlimited funds from Bernanke nothing is going to happen.
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Screw metals, I'll be buying the market dip. I actually borrowed out of my line of credit to buy some Canadian banks in '09.

I wish I'd bought more since a couple of them have doubled, and they've been paying me dividends the whole time.

Got some dry powder set aside for bottom-fishing this time...

In a few years when this all blows over some peoples' faces sure are gonna be red when their "precious" metals return to previous, sane levels of valuation.
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Just like it has over the last 12 years.............right ?
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Your application of logic,reason and proper market theory is invalid Wall Street is now just a fucking casino with 80 percent plus computer trading by large corporations with unlimited funds from Bernanke,next year America's economy will probably collapse on your heads but you'll have dow 17000.

With the accounting standards in your country especially off balance sheet items no astute investor can properly value your companies shares anymore your market is highly over valued but with unlimited funds from Bernanke nothing is going to happen.
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I know that silly guy. Someone asked me to outline why the Quadruple witching on Friday would affect the Gold price.
It's not a perfect explanation but you get the gist!
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Screw metals, I'll be buying the market dip. I actually borrowed out of my line of credit to buy some Canadian banks in '09.

I wish I'd bought more since a couple of them have doubled, and they've been paying me dividends the whole time.

Got some dry powder set aside for bottom-fishing this time...

In a few years when this all blows over some peoples' faces sure are gonna be red when their "precious" metals return to previous, sane levels of valuation.
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Just like it has over the last 12 years.............right ?
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Also it would require massive deflation.........right
are you a deflationtard/ist ?
Can you explain how what you describe would occur ?
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op - question about the Quadruple witching - when do the options expire - at the end of the day or before
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op - question about the Quadruple witching - when do the options expire - at the end of the day or before
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Your answer here !
[link to www.investopedia.com]
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I don't get it. Please explain. Why do they need to drop the price before this weekend? will we see a rally starrting Monday until the end of the year.

I think metals will explode once Obama is confirmed as president, again.
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Be careful next week as well. The contract options expiry is next week. Different from the stock options expiry this Friday.
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op - question about the Quadruple witching - when do the options expire - at the end of the day or before
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Your answer here !
[link to www.investopedia.com]
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there is nothing about hours in the link
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op - question about the Quadruple witching - when do the options expire - at the end of the day or before
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Your answer here !
[link to www.investopedia.com]
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there is nothing about hours in the link
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I believe its at the end of the trading day let me check !
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Wow!

Sir thank you for this amazing education!

It is all so corrupt.
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op - question about the Quadruple witching - when do the options expire - at the end of the day or before
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Your answer here !
[link to www.investopedia.com]
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there is nothing about hours in the link
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I believe its at the end of the trading day let me check !
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end of the day as the last hour of trading is the Quadruple witching hour !
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Crashtard prediction FAIL #3,342,323

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lmaolmaolmao
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One rinse cycle has already occured today genius.

We are back in the wash cycle !
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Your answer here !
[link to www.investopedia.com]
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there is nothing about hours in the link
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I believe its at the end of the trading day let me check !
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end of the day as the last hour of trading is the Quadruple witching hour !
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