Troubles with the negotiations between Greece and Troika

And a link
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There are good chances that the 2 out of 11,5 billions wont be agreed with Troika, says a senior finance ministry official.
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Kalispera Foveras!Elpizo na sai kala!
New measures are unbearable but they will be voted anyway!

Kalispera file mou. How are you? They will be voted but with lots of losses and possible with some troubles from the troika. IMF shows that is not willed to continue this. But I want to see what they are going to do with they next package that very soon will have to pass. Anyway I heard some rumors that EOPPY is on the verge of collapse.

Last Edited by OXI Foveras on 09/20/2012 08:19 AM

Good for now, waiting for TS to HTF. Don't think we will have a next package after this tbh my friend. 7BN of these measures involve further wage and pension cuts, i think society will collapse with these measures, it's always gloomy after the summer season in Greece anyway. I hope it is just a rumor but GADA bought 200 thousand bodybags, have you read that?

No but that doesn't really surprise me. I think we are about to see a cope at Portugal and then maybe here. But I think this comes with a combination of what is happening around the world. Probably we are heading to a long and horrible WW3 I fear. All the pieces are in the chessboard.

Last Edited by OXI Foveras on 09/20/2012 08:39 AM

Do you have a link for the 200 bodybags?

Yeah bodybag info/rumor is on most of the blogs. It's sad but WW3 is inevitable for some time now tbh. I think we have bigger chances to see a coup here first than Portugal, a govt reformation or new elections is more likely for Portugal than a coup, i'm not so sure for us though, something is off, i fear that GD will do something stupid pretty soon that will stir the shit even more. It's the calm before the storm and i have a feeling that October will be a shitstorm.

Pick whatever blog suits you more. Dunno how much true is it, just sharing the rumor.

Google link sucks. Take this:
[link to www.staparaskinia.gr]

Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 09/20/2012 08:45 AM

Thank you.

My pleasure!

Think so too. Maybe even closer. I think there will something else that will cause the trouble not the voting. People somehow have accepted that very easily. They keep saying that OK I can't take it anymore but what to do.

True, people have given up hope, no protests no nothing, but really what can you do, we had violent protests for 2 years and nothing happened. Too many variables here too, illegals, GD, Thrace, AOZ etc. can't be sure what will happen but it will be this winter for sure. Do your preps man, buy some extra food.

Take care my brothers. I didnt see much of a future in Greece, so I packed my bags and came to Australia. I found work here within two months.

Thank you Australia for accepting me, and sorry Greece for leaving.

Thats great brother, hope you having a great time, best wishes in your new journey!

Kalispera patriotaki. Probably soon I'll be there also. I am at the process of obtaining Visa. Also yesterday I received a positive mail for a job vacancy. Hope real soon I will be able to move to AU. Unless the events get me first which I fear it will happen.
Anyway I just heard Kouvelis and seem that there is a problem. I was told in the summer that within September we will leave the Euro as IFUN will remember. You think that this might happen now?

Thanks for the pin.

Here is a link with video. Just look Kouvelis expression. Seems really angry.
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Great news with the job vacancy, move fast my friend, seriously is not looking good!:(
What did this rat Kouvelis said? Coz he was saying the same BS last time too and formed a govt with the other traitors, his whole party is untrusted at best with serious national identity issues.
And yes i think something will happen soon, i don't know how soon but can't see this govt lasting the rest of 2012, new bankruptcy and haircut needs to take place for this to happen.

Thank you IFUN. Yes I need to do a lot yet. It will take me minimum 2 months.
It is not what Kouvelis said. It is his expression. He seemed really angry. Just watch the video. It wasn't his typicall pathetic look. Of course all that is probably an act but at least this is the first time he is like that.

Link is not working unfortunately, but found the video here:
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I've seen such a face from Kouvelis before, for a good 4-6 months now.

If that rumor about the 200 000 bodybags is true, then I would imagine that this winter will be a long one.

Civil unrest perhaps? And what would be the cause?

Yep, not good if true!
Lots of things could cause it, Arab Spring with the illegals and GD fighting them, economic collapse, extremely violent protests, military coup, war/disputes with Turkey etc.
Too much doom that is hidden well for now!

He usually comes out with his chest up looking at the infinite and he has that look that I am the man. Now he come out looking down like he was trying to avoid the press

this

Foreign minister said yesterday that Greece will declare Exclusive Economic Zone soon, regardless of what Turkey thinks or says. This move will invoke the Turkish casus beli as things stand now.

Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 09/20/2012 09:41 AM

There are no troubles, only the theatrical/dramatic part of the whole deal, only for the eyes of the people.

I agree with this, they are posing the hard guys for the media! A close associate of Schauble stated that the negotiations from the Greek side are minimal!

Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 09/20/2012 10:09 AM

Yes and especially benny is doing his best. He keeps mention how hard he negotiated when he was minister.

Yep, was his election motto, couldn't stand watching him before the crisis, imagine now. They just giving the keys of the country without a bit of a fight.

Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 09/20/2012 10:54 AM