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Nuclear War Simulation - Nato vs Russia/China

 
seekingthehturt

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I feel sorry for people who think they'd still use nukes in this day and age. Why drop a bomb? Take down the country's electricity, water, gas supplies (EMP/virus/HAARP) and let the country rip ITSELF apart.

Nukes are so 50 years ago.

You think they don't have weaponary that is 50000x more powerful? Weapons so powerful it would rip the world in two? If we were fucking with nukes when we didn't even have smartphones in our hands, what do you think they have now?
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comment from youtube comment section of video.

"this video is inaccurate. america has large navel contingencies on the east coast. also, americas navy is greater than russias and america has more nuclear subs that are sttronger and faster than russias. there's the lack of consideration of long range missles that can attack accross continents, these bombs would make up the main strike. this would turn it in americas favor, even tthough russin bombs are bigger americas are better.all would be destroyed, but more 2 sidedly.TRUST i know my shit"
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So if everything is destroyed,Why would it be in our favor,So your saying the ,Water,Soil,Air,and land are all radio active but we win,So what exactly is in our favor....??????
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I feel sorry for people who think they'd still use nukes in this day and age. Why drop a bomb? Take down the country's electricity, water, gas supplies (EMP/virus/HAARP) and let the country rip ITSELF apart.

Nukes are so 50 years ago.

You think they don't have weaponary that is 50000x more powerful? Weapons so powerful it would rip the world in two? If we were fucking with nukes when we didn't even have smartphones in our hands, what do you think they have now?
 Quoting: seekingthehturt


Because that would not cot much money to do,And they would not be able to rape the tax payers for Billion of dollars over the next 10 or 20 yrs
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AT LEAST EMBED IT!


WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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09/20/2012 07:53 AM
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Close.
East coast of US going to get it first, though.
Then almost simultaneously the west coast, then
the gulf coast.
The US will be totally crippled in the first half
hour.

China will get it much worse than shown.

Otherwise very accurate.

Guys who throw the first punches win.

One third of world's population dead.
Two billion people.

Caucasian race virtually commits mass suicide.
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This isn't a simulation it's from a game called Defcon. eesh...
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bsflag

So russia and china don't get hit?



This is the worst fucking vid I ever saw.
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I agree!
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But yet it still got pinned... WTS!?
wtf
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I wonder. What if the NWO military/ Industrial complex gave a war and the cannon fodder refused to show?
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Listen up... NUCLEAR WAR doesn't give a damn where you are. You are dead.
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 Quoting: Eye Believe


The next world war will not last for more than a few days.

America gets obliterated. Russia/China/Cuba/N. Korea/etc. win.

ICBM missile defense tech has never really been reliable to even 90%. It's hard to intercept fucking rockets with other rockets. Slight misses are easy but interception is hard.

When it goes boom in boomtown USA you won't have time to go take a piss if you live in the major cities. Good luck to ya. God speed.
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Well at least the usa will be wiped out totaly and utterley not so big then are they.
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Dumbest thing I've seen in awhile...
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stop using NATO. USA will do all the heavy lifting AGAIN.

If the UK or France or even the EU by itself takes on Russia/China, what do you think will happen?

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I feel sorry for people who think they'd still use nukes in this day and age. Why drop a bomb? Take down the country's electricity, water, gas supplies (EMP/virus/HAARP) and let the country rip ITSELF apart.

Nukes are so 50 years ago.

You think they don't have weaponary that is 50000x more powerful? Weapons so powerful it would rip the world in two? If we were fucking with nukes when we didn't even have smartphones in our hands, what do you think they have now?
 Quoting: seekingthehturt


Gonna break this down for you.

NNEMPD - it's not really clear whether this is proliferated tech or not. But the idea is to kill people and EMP's won't do shit.

Virus - Uh, let loose a virus and then hope and pray that nobody gets out of the country and allows the virus to become epidemic? There is no way to control this in the chaos of war.

HAARP - This could work against countries without the tech. America and Russia both have this tech so if one HAARPS another and waits for the low pressure the other can just reverse course with their own tech. All HAARP does is heat up air to move the jetstream and/or create high or low pressure systems. That's it.

Realistic possibilities----------

Neutrino Bombs - Mabey a dirty fission bomb or two. Chemical warfare. Conventional warefare. Neutrino bombs are typically in the range of a single kiloton explosive power. The main killing effect aside from heat and blast is neutrino radiation that disipates drastically after a couple days. Very effecient killing bomb.

Vacuum Bomb (Thermobaric) - Russia developed this so wouldn't be surprised if it was implemented in an attack. This bomb can create the exact same shockwave pressures of a conventional fussion bomb making it capable of ripping apart steel reinforced concrete structures. And no radiation.

The NNEMPD (Non-Nuclear EMP device) could be used to disable certain strategic electronics but the assault on America would not demand such a tatic. America hasn't had an attack on home soil for 70 years and last time it happened they let it. America is not prepared for war on it's own soil and will not respond coordinatedly or effectively enough to halt the attack. BTW I am american and live in Texas.

MAIN WEAPON THAT WILL BE USED ON AMERICA AFTER INITIAL BOMBINGS----------------------------

Pure fucking numbers and the fact that we will be sucker punched. They will have depoloyed and made all their strategic movements before the attack and the US and ISAF will not have any preperations made. This is the main reason they will pull this attack off with terrifying results.

Soldiers by country (dated). (Total military, paramilitary, reserve)

N Korea - 9.5 million
Chinese - 4.5 million
Russia - 2.2 million
Iran - 3.9 million
Cuba - 1.2 million
Pakistan- 1.4 million
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Well at least the usa will be wiped out totaly and utterley not so big then are they.
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Yeah, I'm sure England will be just fine...
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For the most part British bases are pointless hitting in a nuclear strike.

Especially in regards to a first preemptive nuclear strike, because as far as i am aware practically all of our nuclear weapons are submarine based aboard four Vanguard subs each of which carries upto 16 trident ballistic missles which have MIRV base warheads, with i think 12 upto 12 in each missile.

4x16x12 which equals a possible 768 nuclear weapons. Granted we have nowhere near that number, or so we are told. I dont think it has ever been released publicly just how many we do that but its speculated to be about 150 warheads. We probably do have a few nuclear armed tomahawks instead of all sub launched weapons etc.

But i think the idea is such that if anything survives a first strike, even just one of our submarines, whoever fired those nukes is basically fucked themselves beyond all measure.

Cut a long story short, unless the Russians and Chinese knew the whereabouts of every NATO sub was this just wouldn't play out like this.

Why? well you know those 4 subs i talked about, the US has basically at least 14 of those, in addition to the silos and aircraft deployed nuclear weapons.
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 Quoting: Eye Believe


Bullshit, you know nothing of how our systems work and are playing a videogame
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Perhaps Obama will call the military to "Stand down". A few nukes may still be let off but the US will be annihilated in any case.

No one who's watched Obama in the past (almost) 4 years would doubt that he may let it all burn down without retaliatory strikes.

One thing I'm positive of and that is most trained military leaders are going to obey their commander in chief.

sorry
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Obama will stand down and apologize to Russia after the bomb US
Then he will nuke Africa Kenyan hospital where his birth records are held

Safest place to live looks like South America
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I wonder. What if the NWO military/ Industrial complex gave a war and the cannon fodder refused to show?
 Quoting: NightWisp


Few quality dirt boms to directly affect 9% percent of the hive....would steer mind of society in needed mind set.
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I feel sorry for people who think they'd still use nukes in this day and age. Why drop a bomb? Take down the country's electricity, water, gas supplies (EMP/virus/HAARP) and let the country rip ITSELF apart.

Nukes are so 50 years ago.

You think they don't have weaponary that is 50000x more powerful? Weapons so powerful it would rip the world in two? If we were fucking with nukes when we didn't even have smartphones in our hands, what do you think they have now?
 Quoting: seekingthehturt


absolutely. nukes are passe. the simulation is
worthless, any new war would include scalar and plasma
weapons we have never seen deployed.
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I feel sorry for people who think they'd still use nukes in this day and age. Why drop a bomb? Take down the country's electricity, water, gas supplies (EMP/virus/HAARP) and let the country rip ITSELF apart.

Nukes are so 50 years ago.

You think they don't have weaponary that is 50000x more powerful? Weapons so powerful it would rip the world in two? If we were fucking with nukes when we didn't even have smartphones in our hands, what do you think they have now?
 Quoting: seekingthehturt


This +1 yeah its true why go atomic when we have hydro bombs and emps also the miltary has other weapons to shoot down these bombs and if thats been realesed to the public you know we have way worse
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I feel sorry for people who think they'd still use nukes in this day and age. Why drop a bomb? Take down the country's electricity, water, gas supplies (EMP/virus/HAARP) and let the country rip ITSELF apart.

Nukes are so 50 years ago.

You think they don't have weaponary that is 50000x more powerful? Weapons so powerful it would rip the world in two? If we were fucking with nukes when we didn't even have smartphones in our hands, what do you think they have now?
 Quoting: seekingthehturt


I hope you know that there countries that conditioned to "doom situations that could kill usa/west.

Or let me put it differently:

Who do you think will handle aftermath of emp/virus/harp.....
west or. 3rd world country....be honest pls.

Yes...ruskis have harp/scalar...chinks probably have copy of us harp...lol


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That video is only based on an opinion. Nothing more. No one really knows what will happen.

NYC getting taken out more towards the end of this attack? Come on, really now? NYC will be the first city to go. Not realistic at all.
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There is a few fatal flaws in this simulation.

US Boomers sitting around the world will surface to look for emergency comms when the deep sea radio goes silent.

The US has a Sampson Option as well.

Also, there are nuclear interceptors designed to wipe out large areas of incoming missiles in the upper atmosphere. The interceptors split and form a wall of nuclear fire.

HAARP can also turn the ionosphere into a shield, knocking out warheads when they are at the right spot. By pulsing the ionosphere at the right moments, each warhead can be knocked out...physically and electronically.


This is why the US has remained untouched for so long. The technology we've had since 1912 is jaw dropping. Remember, Tesla had meetings with US Military. The US had the death ray around 1924-1927 era.
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I feel sorry for people who think they'd still use nukes in this day and age. Why drop a bomb? Take down the country's electricity, water, gas supplies (EMP/virus/HAARP) and let the country rip ITSELF apart.

Nukes are so 50 years ago.

You think they don't have weaponary that is 50000x more powerful? Weapons so powerful it would rip the world in two? If we were fucking with nukes when we didn't even have smartphones in our hands, what do you think they have now?
 Quoting: seekingthehturt


This +1 yeah its true why go atomic when we have hydro bombs and emps also the miltary has other weapons to shoot down these bombs and if thats been realesed to the public you know we have way worse
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24118499


Detonating an explosive charge, wait for the shockwave in the earth to circle around and time it. Then detonate more charges in a specific sequence to create a standing wave somewhere in the world. A standing wave that will be far worse then any earthquake we've seen.

It's similar to how a bridge can be taken down by winds creating soundwaves in the bridges structure.

Same reason why moving armies order a break in cadence when crossing bridges.
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it's not a sim. Its a pc game called DEFCON, you can get it on steam. It's fun

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Well, I guess I should record some Civilization V game and claim it as simulation too.

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This is not true....If so, prove it instead of running your flapper like a child.
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Before I clicked on the link I already knew what music will be played in the background yoda
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Before I clicked on the link I already knew what music will be played in the background yoda
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Yeah, it's all getting a bit stale.


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How can it be a truly accurate simulation without having the aliens shutting down all the nukes? scratching

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