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Just to make it clear (Ahmadinezhad never said "Israel must be wiped off the map.")

 
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Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Dan Meridor told Al Jazeera that Iran never vowed to "wipe Israel off the map," as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly claimed.

Speaking to the Arab network, Meridor, who also serves as deputy PM, said Iran's leaders "all come basically ideologically, religiously with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive." However, he added, "They didn't say 'we'll wipe it out,' but (rather) 'it will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed'. They repeatedly said 'Israel is not legitimate, it should not exist'."

[link to www.ynetnews.com]

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In a reminder that Persian rhetoric is not always easy for English-speakers to interpret, a senior Israeli official has acknowledged that Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, never actually said that Israel “must be wiped off the map.”

Those words were attributed to Mr. Ahmadinejad in 2005, in English translations of his speech to a “World Without Zionism” conference that October. As my colleague Ethan Bronner reported the next year, one problem was translating a metaphorical turn of phrase in Persian that has no exact English equivalent — there was, for instance, no mention of a map — and there was a heated debate about whether the original statement was a threat or a prediction.

[link to thelede.blogs.nytimes.com]

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4 things we should know about Iran :

1. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad never said that Israel should be "wiped off the map."
2. Ayatollah Khamenei issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons.
3. Iran has a legitimate need for more energy, which is driving its nuclear efforts.
4. The US and Israel both say Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.


Explanation 1 :

Arash Norouzi of the Mossadegh Project noted in 2007 that Ahmadinejad "never... uttered the words 'map,' 'wipe out,' or even 'Israel'" in his statement. Rather, he argued, the translation should have been that "this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." (Both The Washington Post and The Atlantic came up with similarly variant translations.)

Explanation 2 :

Whatever words Ahmadinejad used to describe his attitude towards Israel, it is undeniable that he is not the true leader of Iran. That role is filled by the country's supreme leader and foremost religious figure, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Mr. Khamenei's words are highly influential among religious Shiites –thus making his 2005 fatwa against nuclear weapons a significant factor in discussing Iran's nuclear program.

Explanation 3 :

While Iran is a major supplier of both oil – it is the fourth largest producer in the world according to the CIA's World Factbook – it is also a major consumer. The Green Party of Iran (an environmental party not to be confused with the Green Movement behind the 2009 presidential protests) estimated in 2000 that Iran ranked second only to the US in gasoline consumption. But despite Iran's huge oil production, it lacks the facilities to refine it into gasoline, forcing it to import a barrel of oil for every eight it exports. According to Majd, some Iranians blame their lack of refining infrastructure on Western sanctions.

Explanation 4 :

National Intelligence Agency Director James Clapper wrote in a report to the Senate Armed Services Committee that "Iran is keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons... should it choose to do so. We do not know, however, if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons."

When asked in a hearing by Sen. Carl Levin (D) of Michigan to confirm that "Iran has not yet decided to develop nuclear weapons," Mr. Clapper did so, saying “That is the intelligence community’s assessment …," and he reiterated that he has doubts about whether Iran is attempting to create a nuclear weapon when pressed further by Sen. Lindsay Graham (R) of South Carolina. Gen. Roland Burgess of the Defense Intelligence Agency, who also appeared at the hearing, agreed with Clapper's assessment.

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta made statements even more to the point than Clapper's in January. In the January 8 edition of CBS's Face the Nation, Mr. Panetta said flat out, "Are they [Iran] trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No."

Israeli intelligence also does not believe that Iran is currently pursuing a nuclear weapon. In January, Haaretz reported that Israel believes Iran "has not yet decided whether to translate [its efforts to improve its nuclear power] capabilities into a nuclear weapon - or, more specifically, a nuclear warhead mounted atop a missile." That same month, Israeli military intelligence chief Gen. Aviv Kochavi told a Knesset hearing that Iran is not working on building a nuclear bomb, reported Agence France-Presse.
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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You have got to be kidding. Why are you playing semantic games? Its the same meaning.....Maybe even worse as these leaders are giving people instructions.. Why is it ok for you people to interpret what we say any way you want then threaten to behead us and even kill our people but you hang on to EXACT words to say see your lying because your interpretation is NOT EXCACTLY what I said Even when WE ALL KNOW what you are threatening.
it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed'. They repeatedly said 'Israel is not legitimate, it should not exist'."
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Please Semantically explain this away Mr So full of Hate.....
Just Breaking! Iran will be able to wipe the Israel regime off the scene. THEY HAVE THE BOMB



[link to www.enduringamerica.com]

Tough Talk Alert. Minister of Defense Ahmad Vahidi steps up for the ritual warning, “The defense capability of the Islamic Iran [Republic] against threats by the Zionist regime has been developed to an extent that it will be able to wipe the regime off the scene
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yes but it doesn't matter if he said it or not, you will be told he did regardless if he did. thats the power they have.
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Iran hasn't started a war in over 200 years. Israel and the U.S. have done nothing BUT start wars. Israel blows up anything that bothers them like they have a god-given right. If the Zionists were wiped off the map the world would be a peaceful place.
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OP,

the fact of the matter is that Persia is mentioned in an ancient prophecy of Gog and Magog. Whether you believe in the bible is not the issue here, but according to the holy book of muslims - the Quran - God gave that piece of land to the jewish people (surah 17:104). If God gave the jewish people that land, then they have every right to live there and then the Iran regime can't say that it's not natural. Iran has a large Jewish population (over 10,000) and how did they get there? They were taken captive from Israel (back then called Canaan) and taken to Persia 2600 years ago.
Till the 70s Iran and Israel had good relationships, but then Ayatollah Khameini came, established an islam republic and all ties to Israel were cut. So can you imagine that people in Israel are afraid of your government? Ahmedinejad, just like Hamas and Hezbollah, don't want the jewish people to live there and therefore have made themselves enemies of Israel and the Jewish people. If you're an intelligent guy you'd agree with me that overthrowing the Iranian government would be a blessing to the rest of the world, including your people.
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Iran hasn't started a war in over 200 years. Israel and the U.S. have done nothing BUT start wars. Israel blows up anything that bothers them like they have a god-given right. If the Zionists were wiped off the map the world would be a peaceful place.
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Get your facts straight.
In the last 200 years Persia(Iran) has Started All these Wars.
They have been involved in several other wars, that are not listed here, that they did not start.
Rebellions and uprisings have also been omitted from this list.


Russo-Persian War-(1804-1813) 1812 and 1813 is within the last 200 years, so this war is included.
Afghan-Persian War-(1816)
Turkish-Persian War-(1821-1823)
Russo-Persian War --(1825-1828)
Afghan-Persian War-(1836-1838)

There were a few wars during this period that they did not Start, until:

Iran-Iraq Border Battles -(1969-1970)
Kurdish Rebellion -(1970-1980)
Iranian Seizure of Gulf Islands -(1970-1980)
Dhofar War-(1973-1975)

Due to ongoing Border incidents with Iraq, Iran at least shares some blame for this War.

The First Persian Gulf War (also known as the Iran-Iraq War)—(1980-1988)

The Oil Tanker War -(1984-1988)
Iran's Proxy War with Israel -(1980s-Present)
Proxy War with the United States -(Current)
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Iran hasn't started a war in over 200 years. Israel and the U.S. have done nothing BUT start wars. Israel blows up anything that bothers them like they have a god-given right. If the Zionists were wiped off the map the world would be a peaceful place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9645738

Get your facts straight.
In the last 200 years Persia(Iran) has Started All these Wars.
They have been involved in several other wars, that are not listed here, that they did not start.
Rebellions and uprisings have also been omitted from this list.


Russo-Persian War-(1804-1813) 1812 and 1813 is within the last 200 years, so this war is included.
Afghan-Persian War-(1816)
Turkish-Persian War-(1821-1823)
Russo-Persian War --(1825-1828)
Afghan-Persian War-(1836-1838)

There were a few wars during this period that they did not Start, until:

Iran-Iraq Border Battles -(1969-1970)
Kurdish Rebellion -(1970-1980)
Iranian Seizure of Gulf Islands -(1970-1980)
Dhofar War-(1973-1975)

Due to ongoing Border incidents with Iraq, Iran at least shares some blame for this War.

The First Persian Gulf War (also known as the Iran-Iraq War)—(1980-1988)

The Oil Tanker War -(1984-1988)
Iran's Proxy War with Israel -(1980s-Present)
Proxy War with the United States -(Current)
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I thought that was Saudi Arabia in most places you stated Iran?
You m-m-m-muh-make me HAAA-PEEE.

Psalm 34:14 - Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.

Romans 5:8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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Why are you protecting the Aryans? Your hate keeps you blind.
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OP,

the fact of the matter is that Persia is mentioned in an ancient prophecy of Gog and Magog. Whether you believe in the bible is not the issue here, but according to the holy book of muslims - the Quran - God gave that piece of land to the jewish people (surah 17:104). If God gave the jewish people that land, then they have every right to live there and then the Iran regime can't say that it's not natural. Iran has a large Jewish population (over 10,000) and how did they get there? They were taken captive from Israel (back then called Canaan) and taken to Persia 2600 years ago.
Till the 70s Iran and Israel had good relationships, but then Ayatollah Khameini came, established an islam republic and all ties to Israel were cut. So can you imagine that people in Israel are afraid of your government? Ahmedinejad, just like Hamas and Hezbollah, don't want the jewish people to live there and therefore have made themselves enemies of Israel and the Jewish people. If you're an intelligent guy you'd agree with me that overthrowing the Iranian government would be a blessing to the rest of the world, including your people.

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Educate yourself. Don't tell me Zionist propaganda.



Last Edited by ~THE IRANIAN~ on 09/20/2012 02:20 PM
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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No he said:

يجب ان تمحى اسرائيل من على الخريطة
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Thank god, some one knows the truth here at glp. Most glp readers are so uneducated and feed off of the propaganda to manipulate their minds.hf
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No he said:

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OP,

the fact of the matter is that Persia is mentioned in an ancient prophecy of Gog and Magog. Whether you believe in the bible is not the issue here, but according to the holy book of muslims - the Quran - God gave that piece of land to the jewish people (surah 17:104). If God gave the jewish people that land, then they have every right to live there and then the Iran regime can't say that it's not natural. Iran has a large Jewish population (over 10,000) and how did they get there? They were taken captive from Israel (back then called Canaan) and taken to Persia 2600 years ago.
Till the 70s Iran and Israel had good relationships, but then Ayatollah Khameini came, established an islam republic and all ties to Israel were cut. So can you imagine that people in Israel are afraid of your government? Ahmedinejad, just like Hamas and Hezbollah, don't want the jewish people to live there and therefore have made themselves enemies of Israel and the Jewish people. If you're an intelligent guy you'd agree with me that overthrowing the Iranian government would be a blessing to the rest of the world, including your people.

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Iran is not an arabic nation! Wow so many dumb people around here.
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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He said Israel must be wiped off the GLOBE.
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I can't believe I'm reading in the XXI century people arguing about what 'God' said or didn't said.

Unfuckingbelievable.
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FROM ANOTHER POST ....But exposes your lies


IMPORTANT: BUSTING THE "TINY MINORITY" OF MUSLIM EXTREMISTS MYTH



Every time the Muzzies got nuts in the middle east of there is a terrorist attack against the West, our media always feeds us the same line over and over.

"It's only a tiny minority of Muslims that believe this. The other 99% are peaceful"

Everyone has heard this many times. The truth is this is all bullshit. Take a look at these Muzzie opinion polls around the world and tell me if you still think there is only a "tiny minority" of Muslims.

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
[link to www.cbsnews.com]
[link to www.webcitation.org]

That's over 700,000 Muzzies in Britain! People in Britain walk down the streets smiling at Muzzies with no idea a quarter of them wouldn't mind seeing them dead!

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
[link to people-press.org]

That's over 23m Turks who support this shit

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
[link to pajamasmedia.com]
[link to www.ynetnews.com]

This may be the most fucked up of them all. Over 1,280,000 filthy Palestine Muzzies support the slaughter of whole families. Absolutely disgraceful how anyone can call them the "religion of peace". I'm sure if you surveyed Muzzies from around the world on this you would be shocked to see the numbers of support this in the hundreds of millions.

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
[link to www.worldpublicopinion.org]

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
[link to www.populuslimited.com]
[link to www.danielpipes.org]

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
[link to www.fosis.org.uk]
[link to www.danielpipes.org]

CM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
[link to www.icmresearch.co.uk]
[link to www.danielpipes.org]

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe jewish people in Britain are a "legitimate target".
[link to www.populuslimited.com]
[link to www.danielpipes.org]

ICM Poll: 13% of Muslim in Britain support al-Qaeda attacks on America.
[link to www.icmresearch.co.uk]
[link to www.danielpipes.org]

Populus Survey: 18% of British Muslims would be proud or indifferent if a family member joined al-Qaeda.
[link to www.populuslimited.com]
[link to www.danielpipes.org]

Policy Exchange (2006): 7% Muslims in Britain admire al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
[link to www.policyexchange.org.uk]
[link to www.danielpipes.org]

Center for Social Cohesion: One Third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
[link to www.socialcohesion.co.uk]

Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed
[link to www.civitas.org.uk]

NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons;
[link to www.cbsnews.com]
[link to www.webcitation.org]

NOP Research: Hardcore Islamists comprise 9% of Britain's Muslim population;
Another 29% would "aggressively defend" Islam;
[link to www.cbsnews.com]
[link to www.webcitation.org]

Center for Social Cohesion: 40% of British Muslim students want Sharia
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
[link to www.socialcohesion.co.uk]

ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
[link to www.civitas.org.uk]

NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
[link to www.cbsnews.com]
[link to www.webcitation.org]

Civitas: 1 in 3 Muslims in the UK strongly agree that a wife should be forced to obey her husband's bidding
[link to www.imaginate.uk.com]
[link to www.civitas.org.uk]

BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor".
[link to www.expressandstar.com]

Muslims have highest claimed disability rates in the UK (24% of men, 21% of women)
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

2011: 16% of UK prisoners in 2010 are Muslim (Muslims comprise about 3% of the total population)
[link to www.google.com]

Pakistani Muslims in the UK are three times more likely to be unemployed than Hindus. Indian Muslims are twice as likely to be unemployed as Indian Hindus.
[link to frontpagemag.com]

Policy Exchange: 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust;
Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.
[link to www.imaginate.uk.com]
[link to www.civitas.org.uk]

Policy Exchange: 51% of British Muslims believe a woman cannot marry a non-Muslim
Only 51% believe a Muslim woman may marry without a guardian's consent
[link to www.civitas.org.uk]

Policy Exchange: Up to 52% of British Muslims believe a Muslim man is entitled to up to four wives
[link to www.civitas.org.uk]

Policy Exchange: 61% of British Muslims want homosexuality punished
[link to www.civitas.org.uk]

And people can honestly say that Islam isn't a threat to the West. Keep in mind that Muhammad was once again the most popular boy's name in Britain this year. Islam is the biggest threat to Britain and the British aren't even aware of this!

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
[link to www.people-press.org]

8% of American Muslims may not seem like many but it's actually over 500,000 people!

Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds). Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright.
[link to pewresearch.org]

Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda.
[link to people-press.org]

So there are over 2,750,000 Muzzies living in America that can't reject 9/11? But they love America and came here for our freedoms right?

al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
[link to terrorism.about.com]

Another important poll. You always hear the Muzzies bragging how there is 1.5 billion of them. Well nearly 750,000,000 of this "tiny minority" support OBL. Thats double the population of the USA.

Pew Research: 59% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
41% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2007
56% of Jordanians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
[link to www.forbes.com]

Pew Global: 51% of Palestinians support Osama bin Laden
54% of Muslim Nigerians Support Osama bin Laden
[link to frontpagemag.com]
[link to pewglobal.org]

World Public Opinion: Attitude toward Osama bin Laden:
Egypt: 44% positive, 17% negative, and 25% mixed feelings
Indonesia: 14% positive, 26% negative, 21% mixed feelings (39% did not answer)
Pakistan: 25% positive, 15% negative, 26% mixed feelings (34% did not answer)
Morocco: 27% positive, 21% negative, 26% mixed feelings
Jordanians, Palestinians, Turks and Azerbaijanis. Jordanians combined for: 27% positive, 20 percent negative, and 27 percent mixed feelings. (Palestinians 56% positive, 20% negative, 22 percent mixed feelings).
[link to www.worldpublicopinion.org]

Pew Research (2010): 49% of Nigerian Muslims have favorable view of al-Qaeda (34% unfavorable)
23% of Indonesians have favorable view of al-Qaeda (56% unfavorable)
34% of Jordanians have favorable view of al-Qaeda
25% of Indonesians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden (59% had confidence in 2003)
1 in 5 Egyptians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden
[link to pewglobal.org]

Pew Research (2011): 22% of Indonesians have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (21% unfavorable)
[link to www.people-press.org]

Gallup: 38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
[link to elderofziyon.blogspot.com]
[link to www.washingtoninstitute.org]

Terrorism Research Institute Study: 51% of mosques in the U.S. have texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% have texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% have no violent texts at all.
[link to www.terrorismanalysts.com]

Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
[link to cnsnews.com] (Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)

World Public Opinion: 81% of Egyptians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
76% of Pakistanis want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
49% (plurality) of Indonesians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
76% of Moroccans want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
[link to www.worldpublicopinion.org]

World Public Opinion: 64% of Egyptians said it was “very important for the government” to “apply traditional punishments for crimes such as stoning adulterers.”
[link to www.worldpublicopinion.org]

Pew Research (2010): 77% of Egyptian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
58% of Jordanian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
36% of Indonesian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
82% of Pakistanis favor floggings and amputation
65% of Nigerian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
[link to pewglobal.org]

Pew Research (2010): 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
[link to pewglobal.org]

As you can see most want to go back to the middle ages.

NOP Research: 62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech;
Only 3% adopt a "consistently pro-freedom of speech line"
[link to www.cbsnews.com]
[link to www.webcitation.org]

ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution
[link to www.icmresearch.co.uk]
[link to www.danielpipes.org]

Pew Global (2006): Only 7% of British Muslims think of themselves as British first (81% say 'Muslim' rather than 'Briton')
[link to pewglobal.org]

Policy Exchange (2006): 31% Muslims in Britain identify more with Muslims in other countries than with non-Muslim Brits.
[link to www.policyexchange.org.uk]

Pew Research (2011): 49% of Muslim-Americans say they are "Muslim first" (26% American first)
[link to www.people-press.org]

Pew Research (2011): 21% of Muslim-Americans say there is a fair to great amount of support for Islamic extremism in their community.
[link to www.people-press.org]

ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for political ends acceptable

Pew Research (2007): 26% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (43% support assimilation)
[link to pewresearch.org]

These polls are very disturbing because they are in the West and we have no idea what is happening. They don't want to be western. They want to live in the West but don't want our values. Most don't even believe in free speech. This isn't a tiny minority! We've been told "The Muslims came to America/UK for freedom." Look at the polls and you can see that's a lie. They can here to spread Islam. We need to understand this before its too late!





As you can see there are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of Muzzies who want you kill you or impose their will on you. Time is running out. Each and every day their numbers grow in the West and around the globe. The truth is we are scared of them so we don't look at the obvious. The stronger they get the bolder they will grow. As you can see in the UK polls there are a huge number of Muzzies who are against everything the West stands for. Many other European countries are like this also. It will only take a few more decades until they will be a political force in some European countries due to their numbers. It's time to understand what we are dealing with and do what the Japanese do: Don't let Muslims in your country!

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Ayatollah Khomeini:
“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

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