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You're kinda slow eh?
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Says the guy getting his ass handed to him by everyone in the thread...

But please, do go on...
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I won't read all the bible thumping crap...
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Why? Its obvious you like to quote it and use the moral compass of it, when it benefits you...
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I didn't quote the Bible. I said God gave man dominion over the animals...
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And where was that fallacy stated? In the bible, so you in fact are quoting something out of the bible.
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It is in the bible but I'm not quoting chapters and verses...my beliefs are not fallacies, you can choose not to believe them but that doesn't make mine wrong.
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Actually it is not. You realize that the genetic difference, and even embryonic differences between humans and animals is very small...
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The embryo won't grow into anything other than a human...just because a tomato seed sprouts and begins to grow doesn't change the fact that it's a tomato plant...abortion is murder.
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Murder? Murder would imply that the entity was a fully conscious human, wherein you "take" away their thought, dreams, past, present and future. It is based on an entity that is fully conscious at the time. A single celled, or dividing egg does not represent that. Oh, and you realise through genetics that they can pretty much turn an embryo into anything they want...
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Even a newborn isn't fully conscious...and it's still murder to kill a newborn...
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Difference between a newborn and dividing celled embryo is akin to saying that four tires by themselves represent a vehicle. When it fact it does not. A newborn is conscious.
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Why? Its obvious you like to quote it and use the moral compass of it, when it benefits you...
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I didn't quote the Bible. I said God gave man dominion over the animals...
 Quoting: BRIEF

And where was that fallacy stated? In the bible, so you in fact are quoting something out of the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


It is in the bible but I'm not quoting chapters and verses...my beliefs are not fallacies, you can choose not to believe them but that doesn't make mine wrong.
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So then why do you ignore Ecclesiastes?
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The embryo won't grow into anything other than a human...just because a tomato seed sprouts and begins to grow doesn't change the fact that it's a tomato plant...abortion is murder.
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Murder? Murder would imply that the entity was a fully conscious human, wherein you "take" away their thought, dreams, past, present and future. It is based on an entity that is fully conscious at the time. A single celled, or dividing egg does not represent that. Oh, and you realise through genetics that they can pretty much turn an embryo into anything they want...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Even a newborn isn't fully conscious...and it's still murder to kill a newborn...
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Difference between a newborn and dividing celled embryo is akin to saying that four tires by themselves represent a vehicle. When it fact it does not. A newborn is conscious.
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I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
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Brief, you may find this interesting:

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Murder? Murder would imply that the entity was a fully conscious human, wherein you "take" away their thought, dreams, past, present and future. It is based on an entity that is fully conscious at the time. A single celled, or dividing egg does not represent that. Oh, and you realise through genetics that they can pretty much turn an embryo into anything they want...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Even a newborn isn't fully conscious...and it's still murder to kill a newborn...
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Difference between a newborn and dividing celled embryo is akin to saying that four tires by themselves represent a vehicle. When it fact it does not. A newborn is conscious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
 Quoting: BRIEF



I am curious, where did you arrive at that fundemental belief? Religion, something else?
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I didn't quote the Bible. I said God gave man dominion over the animals...
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And where was that fallacy stated? In the bible, so you in fact are quoting something out of the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


It is in the bible but I'm not quoting chapters and verses...my beliefs are not fallacies, you can choose not to believe them but that doesn't make mine wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF



So then why do you ignore Ecclesiastes?
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I don't blindly follow any piece of literature...do you blindly believe everything science tells you?
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What's the point of these Cop shoots dog threads??

You obviously searched the web to find this story,what's the point,
There has to be better stories to search for.
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iamwith

And here folks, is the reason why this sort of thing is happening. Too many idiots who don't care about their fellow citizens being fucked over by the police state.
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Even a newborn isn't fully conscious...and it's still murder to kill a newborn...
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Difference between a newborn and dividing celled embryo is akin to saying that four tires by themselves represent a vehicle. When it fact it does not. A newborn is conscious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
 Quoting: BRIEF



I am curious, where did you arrive at that fundemental belief? Religion, something else?
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Ever watch a baby form in the uterus? You can watch it grow into a full human being...how someone could just chop that up and murder it is just sick and evil...

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And where was that fallacy stated? In the bible, so you in fact are quoting something out of the bible.
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It is in the bible but I'm not quoting chapters and verses...my beliefs are not fallacies, you can choose not to believe them but that doesn't make mine wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF



So then why do you ignore Ecclesiastes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


I don't blindly follow any piece of literature...do you blindly believe everything science tells you?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I do until proven otherwise. Science is life, and reality. Religion and morals? Are basically someones "views" being pushed and implemented onto the masses...
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Difference between a newborn and dividing celled embryo is akin to saying that four tires by themselves represent a vehicle. When it fact it does not. A newborn is conscious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
 Quoting: BRIEF



I am curious, where did you arrive at that fundemental belief? Religion, something else?
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Ever watch a baby form in the uterus? You can watch it grow into a full human being...how someone could just chop that up and murder it is just sick and evil...
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You could, but what if that human turned out to be Hitler, Manson, Stalin, Mao, etc?
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It is in the bible but I'm not quoting chapters and verses...my beliefs are not fallacies, you can choose not to believe them but that doesn't make mine wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF



So then why do you ignore Ecclesiastes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


I don't blindly follow any piece of literature...do you blindly believe everything science tells you?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I do until proven otherwise. Science is life, and reality. Religion and morals? Are basically someones "views" being pushed and implemented onto the masses...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Science lacks a great deal...science can't even prove gravity, yet it's a reality...
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Murder? Murder would imply that the entity was a fully conscious human, wherein you "take" away their thought, dreams, past, present and future. It is based on an entity that is fully conscious at the time. A single celled, or dividing egg does not represent that. Oh, and you realise through genetics that they can pretty much turn an embryo into anything they want...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Even a newborn isn't fully conscious...and it's still murder to kill a newborn...
 Quoting: BRIEF




Difference between a newborn and dividing celled embryo is akin to saying that four tires by themselves represent a vehicle. When it fact it does not. A newborn is conscious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You have a right to your beliefs(no matter how fucked up), but that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
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I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
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I am curious, where did you arrive at that fundemental belief? Religion, something else?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Ever watch a baby form in the uterus? You can watch it grow into a full human being...how someone could just chop that up and murder it is just sick and evil...
 Quoting: BRIEF


You could, but what if that human turned out to be Hitler, Manson, Stalin, Mao, etc?
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At that point they have proven they deserve death, but not before inside the mother...
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So then why do you ignore Ecclesiastes?
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I don't blindly follow any piece of literature...do you blindly believe everything science tells you?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I do until proven otherwise. Science is life, and reality. Religion and morals? Are basically someones "views" being pushed and implemented onto the masses...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Science lacks a great deal...science can't even prove gravity, yet it's a reality...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yes, I agree, it does lack. Difference between science and religion is that science keeps progressing, and changes ideals when it has been shown otherwise. Religion on the other hand defers to an invisible creature, living in the clouds - for all answers that cannot be answered. Science realizes that not all things can be explained, but they constantly work to refine, or find the unknown. Knowledge is power. Religious beliefs and ideologies are rot to the brain...
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Even a newborn isn't fully conscious...and it's still murder to kill a newborn...
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Difference between a newborn and dividing celled embryo is akin to saying that four tires by themselves represent a vehicle. When it fact it does not. A newborn is conscious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You have a right to your beliefs(no matter how fucked up), but that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


According to my morality, that is shared by the majority of the planet, animals and humans are not equivalent...otherwise the killing of animals would be punishable as it is with the murder of humans...so most of the planet thinks you are wrong.

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I don't blindly follow any piece of literature...do you blindly believe everything science tells you?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I do until proven otherwise. Science is life, and reality. Religion and morals? Are basically someones "views" being pushed and implemented onto the masses...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Science lacks a great deal...science can't even prove gravity, yet it's a reality...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yes, I agree, it does lack. Difference between science and religion is that science keeps progressing, and changes ideals when it has been shown otherwise. Religion on the other hand defers to an invisible creature, living in the clouds - for all answers that cannot be answered. Science realizes that not all things can be explained, but they constantly work to refine, or find the unknown. Knowledge is power. Religious beliefs and ideologies are rot to the brain...
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Science and religion can work together, God created everything and science simply attempts to figure it out...
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Well this thread has skewed into a tangent... ;)


Bottom line is, regardless of life or property, this LEO really had no business being in this guys yard, given that he was at the wrong address. Just because he has authority to enforce laws, does not give him a blank check to do whatever. Due diligence should have been implemented. I agree that mistakes from these folks should be held to a higher standard, with serious repercussions...
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Difference between a newborn and dividing celled embryo is akin to saying that four tires by themselves represent a vehicle. When it fact it does not. A newborn is conscious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You have a right to your beliefs(no matter how fucked up), but that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


According to my morality, that is shared by the majority of the planet, animals and humans are not equivalent...otherwise the killing of animals would be punishable as it is with the murder of humans...so most of the planet thinks you are wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Which is why this planet is so fucked up.
And your morality is sadly lacking Mr.Nuke Iran, Egypt, Pakistan,Libya now!!
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I do until proven otherwise. Science is life, and reality. Religion and morals? Are basically someones "views" being pushed and implemented onto the masses...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Science lacks a great deal...science can't even prove gravity, yet it's a reality...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yes, I agree, it does lack. Difference between science and religion is that science keeps progressing, and changes ideals when it has been shown otherwise. Religion on the other hand defers to an invisible creature, living in the clouds - for all answers that cannot be answered. Science realizes that not all things can be explained, but they constantly work to refine, or find the unknown. Knowledge is power. Religious beliefs and ideologies are rot to the brain...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Science and religion can work together, God created everything and science simply attempts to figure it out...
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Depends who you think "god" is...
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I believe human life begins at conception and abortion is murder.
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You have a right to your beliefs(no matter how fucked up), but that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


According to my morality, that is shared by the majority of the planet, animals and humans are not equivalent...otherwise the killing of animals would be punishable as it is with the murder of humans...so most of the planet thinks you are wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Which is why this planet is so fucked up.
And your morality is sadly lacking Mr.Nuke Iran, Egypt, Pakistan,Libya now!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


Those muzzies have vowed to kill me first, so taking them out is just self-preservation, but the killing of innocent human life, in no way, compares to the killing animals...
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A diabetic friend of mine's brother stopped by her house. She's a diabetic. There was no answer when he knocked on the front door and was about to leave when his sister's dog started jumping at the front window. Toby, the dog (a chow) had never acted like that so he let himself in and found his sister on the floor in her bedroom in a diabetic coma. Toby saved her life.

Another friend, David S***, a cop (officer of the year as a matter of fact) and SWAT team member had a standard poodle. He was sleeping in the middle of the night and the dog woke him up barking and wouldn't stop. He went to put the dog in it's crate in the garage and looked out the window to see his elderly neighbor's house on fire. He ran out, in his underwear, and into the neighbor's burning house and saved the couples lives.

I have a lot of clients who all they have left in life is their dogs. Their partner's died, kids moved away, they're handicapped and can't live a decent life without their dog. A lot of different reasons.

Dog's have no emotion's? Feeling's? Sense of right and wrong? Gimme a break.

A couple of months ago I was walking my boxer at night on the local golf course. We went around the back side of a pond through some scattered shrubs and woke a pack of coyotes up. We were completely surrounded. All I did was hold my dog's lead, because he was in total defense mode and walked with confidence and talked and laughed at them loudly. There was at least 12 of them and we walked away, no problem. And this pussy cop is afraid of ONE dog on a leash?

We evolved socially at the same time as canines. We realized we could hunt larger prey by hunting in packs at the same time dogs did. Then the dogs started hanging around our "camps" and we socialized them and started using them to help us hunt. When we ate, they got the scraps. Win win for both. Hell, we might not even be here if it wasn't for them.
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Science lacks a great deal...science can't even prove gravity, yet it's a reality...
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Yes, I agree, it does lack. Difference between science and religion is that science keeps progressing, and changes ideals when it has been shown otherwise. Religion on the other hand defers to an invisible creature, living in the clouds - for all answers that cannot be answered. Science realizes that not all things can be explained, but they constantly work to refine, or find the unknown. Knowledge is power. Religious beliefs and ideologies are rot to the brain...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Science and religion can work together, God created everything and science simply attempts to figure it out...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Depends who you think "god" is...
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The creator.
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You have a right to your beliefs(no matter how fucked up), but that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


According to my morality, that is shared by the majority of the planet, animals and humans are not equivalent...otherwise the killing of animals would be punishable as it is with the murder of humans...so most of the planet thinks you are wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Which is why this planet is so fucked up.
And your morality is sadly lacking Mr.Nuke Iran, Egypt, Pakistan,Libya now!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


Those muzzies have vowed to kill me first, so taking them out is just self-preservation, but the killing of innocent human life, in no way, compares to the killing animals...
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If you really think about it, it is "religion" that is the root cause of the problem, not science. Can you see how religion narrows the mind and rots the brain?
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Yes, I agree, it does lack. Difference between science and religion is that science keeps progressing, and changes ideals when it has been shown otherwise. Religion on the other hand defers to an invisible creature, living in the clouds - for all answers that cannot be answered. Science realizes that not all things can be explained, but they constantly work to refine, or find the unknown. Knowledge is power. Religious beliefs and ideologies are rot to the brain...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Science and religion can work together, God created everything and science simply attempts to figure it out...
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Depends who you think "god" is...
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The creator.
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That also depends...
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According to my morality, that is shared by the majority of the planet, animals and humans are not equivalent...otherwise the killing of animals would be punishable as it is with the murder of humans...so most of the planet thinks you are wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Which is why this planet is so fucked up.
And your morality is sadly lacking Mr.Nuke Iran, Egypt, Pakistan,Libya now!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


Those muzzies have vowed to kill me first, so taking them out is just self-preservation, but the killing of innocent human life, in no way, compares to the killing animals...
 Quoting: BRIEF




If you really think about it, it is "religion" that is the root cause of the problem, not science. Can you see how religion narrows the mind and rots the brain?
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Religions don't do that, but I see cults such as Islam doing that...
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You have a right to your beliefs(no matter how fucked up), but that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


According to my morality, that is shared by the majority of the planet, animals and humans are not equivalent...otherwise the killing of animals would be punishable as it is with the murder of humans...so most of the planet thinks you are wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Which is why this planet is so fucked up.
And your morality is sadly lacking Mr.Nuke Iran, Egypt, Pakistan,Libya now!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


Those muzzies have vowed to kill me first, so taking them out is just self-preservation, but the killing of innocent human life, in no way, compares to the killing animals...
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Yes those newborns have vowed to kill you.
rofl
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According to my morality, that is shared by the majority of the planet, animals and humans are not equivalent...otherwise the killing of animals would be punishable as it is with the murder of humans...so most of the planet thinks you are wrong.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Which is why this planet is so fucked up.
And your morality is sadly lacking Mr.Nuke Iran, Egypt, Pakistan,Libya now!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


Those muzzies have vowed to kill me first, so taking them out is just self-preservation, but the killing of innocent human life, in no way, compares to the killing animals...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yes those newborns have vowed to kill you.
rofl
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No they haven't, which is why abortion is wrong...
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Which is why this planet is so fucked up.
And your morality is sadly lacking Mr.Nuke Iran, Egypt, Pakistan,Libya now!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


Those muzzies have vowed to kill me first, so taking them out is just self-preservation, but the killing of innocent human life, in no way, compares to the killing animals...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yes those newborns have vowed to kill you.
rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19055812


No they haven't, which is why abortion is wrong...
 Quoting: BRIEF

But you think they should be born just so you can nuke (murder)them,right?

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