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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16845676 United States 09/20/2012 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Apostles Persecuted Acts 4 Quoting: Goofy for God 17 Then the high priest and all his associates, who were members of the party of the Sadducees, were filled with jealousy. 18 They arrested the apostles and put them in the public jail. 19 But during the night an angel of the Lord opened the doors of the jail and brought them out. 20 “Go, stand in the temple courts,” he said, “and tell the people all about this new life.” 21 At daybreak they entered the temple courts, as they had been told, and began to teach the people. Things have not changed much Acts 5 42 Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah. |
KoFFee_ (OP) User ID: 1373078 United States 09/20/2012 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Apostles Persecuted Acts 4 Quoting: Goofy for God 17 Then the high priest and all his associates, who were members of the party of the Sadducees, were filled with jealousy. 18 They arrested the apostles and put them in the public jail. 19 But during the night an angel of the Lord opened the doors of the jail and brought them out. 20 “Go, stand in the temple courts,” he said, “and tell the people all about this new life.” 21 At daybreak they entered the temple courts, as they had been told, and began to teach the people. Things have not changed much Those are some of my favorite verses to read in Acts. God is all powerful--as many will soon see. However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24 "This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7 |
Pa resident1 User ID: 23528140 United States 09/20/2012 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A family hosting a peaceful prayer time and get together with their friends, in their home, are being fined $250 per day. Quoting: KoFFee_ Sheesh, maybe if they were to riot and kill people instead, the government would then see them as a religion of peace and allow them to practice their religion freely. I hope this family wins against the city. Family Faces Fines for Hosting Bible Study A Florida family is facing fines for hosting a weekly Bible study in their home – an act that city officials argue violates zoning codes. Shane and Marlen Roessiger, of Venice, Fla. are facing a $250 per day fine for hosting Friday night prayer and Bible study gatherings that are attended by as many as 10 people. “It is difficult to understand how it is illegal to have a prayer meeting on Friday night with a half dozen people but it is alright if I invited the same group on Monday evening to watch Monday night Football,” Roessiger said. “It’s a weekly Bible study,” said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. “It’s the same kind of Bible study that occurs in households across America.” The Pacific Justice Institute is representing the Roessigers as they fight back against the city’s attacks. Dacus said they are hearing of a number of assaults on home Bible studies across the nation. “They are having a specific problem with this family solely because they are having family and friends over to read the bible and pray,” Dacus told Fox News. “That may be fine in some tyrannical parts of the world. That is not okay in the United States of America.” Read more here: [link to radio.foxnews.com] Well if they are going to crack down on that, then they should not allow groups to gather to watch football in a private home. sheesh! "When you don't keep your word, you lose credibility and trustworthy friends" |
KoFFee_ (OP) User ID: 1373078 United States 09/20/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A family hosting a peaceful prayer time and get together with their friends, in their home, are being fined $250 per day. Quoting: KoFFee_ Sheesh, maybe if they were to riot and kill people instead, the government would then see them as a religion of peace and allow them to practice their religion freely. I hope this family wins against the city. Family Faces Fines for Hosting Bible Study A Florida family is facing fines for hosting a weekly Bible study in their home – an act that city officials argue violates zoning codes. Shane and Marlen Roessiger, of Venice, Fla. are facing a $250 per day fine for hosting Friday night prayer and Bible study gatherings that are attended by as many as 10 people. “It is difficult to understand how it is illegal to have a prayer meeting on Friday night with a half dozen people but it is alright if I invited the same group on Monday evening to watch Monday night Football,” Roessiger said. “It’s a weekly Bible study,” said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. “It’s the same kind of Bible study that occurs in households across America.” The Pacific Justice Institute is representing the Roessigers as they fight back against the city’s attacks. Dacus said they are hearing of a number of assaults on home Bible studies across the nation. “They are having a specific problem with this family solely because they are having family and friends over to read the bible and pray,” Dacus told Fox News. “That may be fine in some tyrannical parts of the world. That is not okay in the United States of America.” Read more here: [link to radio.foxnews.com] Well if they are going to crack down on that, then they should not allow groups to gather to watch football in a private home. sheesh! .....or parties, or home-school graduation ceremonies, or baby showers, or Holiday Celebrations with family, birthday parties and more. The year my husband passed away, funds were tight so I had one more yard sale than I was allowed(we are allowed 2 each year). A neighbor reported it and the cops were at my door 5 minutes after the yard sale started. I didn't see the harm in having one more, but it is the law. If the cops don't catch you, you just might have a neighbor who will. Last Edited by KoFFee_ on 09/20/2012 05:52 PM However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24 "This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7 |
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samanthasunflower User ID: 14930415 United States 09/23/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians are told to keep our religion behind closed doors, but then they terrorize us behind those doors. If they were having a weekly get together to watch football on his HD TV, then it would have been ignored by all. |
abeliever Members User ID: 17868616 United States 09/23/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians are told to keep our religion behind closed doors, but then they terrorize us behind those doors. Quoting: samanthasunflower If they were having a weekly get together to watch football on his HD TV, then it would have been ignored by all. Yes... sad, but true. It is biblical. Foretold that Christians will suffer. Pray for all Christians suffering today in many different ways. |
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KoFFee_ (OP) User ID: 1373078 United States 09/23/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Persecution of Christians on rise – in U.S. 'It is dramatic, I have never seen levels of attacks like these' A report by two U.S.-based religious freedom groups says anti-Christian persecution is on the rise in America. The joint report by Texas-based Liberty Institute and Washington-based Family Research Council says groups like the American Civil Liberties Union aren’t the only culprits. The report says government agencies around the U.S. are trying to push Christian expression out the door. “It is dramatic,” says Liberty Institute Founder Kelly Shackleford, of the recent hike in reported incidents of persecution. “I have been doing these types of cases for almost 25 years now. I have never seen the levels of attacks like these and how quickly they are now proliferating.” Shackleford says government, from schools to social programs, is the ringleader. “There are children being prohibited from writing Merry Christmas to the soldiers, senior citizens being banned from praying over their meals in the Senior Center, the VA banning the mention of God in military funerals, numerous attempts to have veterans memorials torn down if they have any religious symbols such as a cross, and I could go on and on,” Shackleford said. Read more here: [link to www.wnd.com] However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24 "This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3693196 United States 09/23/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm..and WHAT nationality and religion were the persecutors?? 1. jewish 2. judaism and the jewish media would have Christans believe that its the moslems who are the enemy!! "concerning the gospel,THEY (jewish people) are the enemies" apostle paul. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19199109 United States 09/23/2012 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians are told to keep our religion behind closed doors, but then they terrorize us behind those doors. Quoting: samanthasunflower If they were having a weekly get together to watch football on his HD TV, then it would have been ignored by all. Yes... sad, but true. It is biblical. Foretold that Christians will suffer. Pray for all Christians suffering today in many different ways. As Jesus suffered so will we. Until the time of might of the unrighteous is ended. They will all wish they had even 30 more seconds and unfortunately they will not get it. It's terrible so many will be lost. I pray that God has mercy for us all. Good luck and God bless. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16069571 United States 09/23/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A family hosting a peaceful prayer time and get together with their friends, in their home, are being fined $250 per day. Quoting: KoFFee_ Sheesh, maybe if they were to riot and kill people instead, the government would then see them as a religion of peace and allow them to practice their religion freely. I hope this family wins against the city. Family Faces Fines for Hosting Bible Study A Florida family is facing fines for hosting a weekly Bible study in their home – an act that city officials argue violates zoning codes. Shane and Marlen Roessiger, of Venice, Fla. are facing a $250 per day fine for hosting Friday night prayer and Bible study gatherings that are attended by as many as 10 people. “It is difficult to understand how it is illegal to have a prayer meeting on Friday night with a half dozen people but it is alright if I invited the same group on Monday evening to watch Monday night Football,” Roessiger said. “It’s a weekly Bible study,” said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. “It’s the same kind of Bible study that occurs in households across America.” The Pacific Justice Institute is representing the Roessigers as they fight back against the city’s attacks. Dacus said they are hearing of a number of assaults on home Bible studies across the nation. “They are having a specific problem with this family solely because they are having family and friends over to read the bible and pray,” Dacus told Fox News. “That may be fine in some tyrannical parts of the world. That is not okay in the United States of America.” Read more here: [link to radio.foxnews.com] the fact that the majority of people are UNWILLING to use their brains is why this country is in the state it's in. LEARN YOUR RIGHTS, YOU HAVE AN UNLIMITED RIGHT TO CONTRACT OR NOT IN THIS COUNTRY. WHEN ANYONE RECEIVES ONE OF THESE BOGUS PRESENTMENTS FROM THE CITY. JUST WRITE "REFUSAL FOR CAUSE" "WITHOUT PREJUDICE" "WITHOUT RECOURSE". I wouldn't hold my breath waiting to hear from them again after they receive a dishonored presentment back. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7452418 United States 09/23/2012 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Society now criminalizing parents that allow children to play in the yard - What is the world coming to? Quoting: KoFFee_ A Virginia mother was recently interrogated four times by police, and visited twice by social services, after neighbors spotted the mother's children playing in their own yard unsupervised, and decided to report the non-incident to local authorities. According to Lenore Skenazy of Free-Range Kids, such hysteria and Stasi-style paranoia are becoming the norm in America, where children are being excessively coddled, overprotected, and treated as though they are always in grave danger of being kidnapped or harmed. Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com] aww, what? ............ |
KoFFee_ (OP) User ID: 1373078 United States 09/23/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, looks like the incident in San Juan Capistrano had a positive outcome to it: Article posted 6/26/12 Home Bible study allowed to continue thanks to rezoning after couple was fined Our take: City officials in San Juan Capistrano, Calif., have voted to adjust their zoning laws after Christian couple Chuck and Stephanie Fromm were fined for holding a Bible study in their home when city zoning laws decreed that no religious, fraternal or non-profit gatherings could be held in residential neighborhoods without a permit if three or more people were present. The couple was refunded and the zoning laws no longer penalize religious meetings based on the number of people present. Read more here: [link to www.deseretnews.com] However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24 "This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23975430 United States 09/23/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A family hosting a peaceful prayer time and get together with their friends, in their home, are being fined $250 per day. Quoting: KoFFee_ Sheesh, maybe if they were to riot and kill people instead, the government would then see them as a religion of peace and allow them to practice their religion freely. I hope this family wins against the city. Family Faces Fines for Hosting Bible Study A Florida family is facing fines for hosting a weekly Bible study in their home – an act that city officials argue violates zoning codes. Shane and Marlen Roessiger, of Venice, Fla. are facing a $250 per day fine for hosting Friday night prayer and Bible study gatherings that are attended by as many as 10 people. “It is difficult to understand how it is illegal to have a prayer meeting on Friday night with a half dozen people but it is alright if I invited the same group on Monday evening to watch Monday night Football,” Roessiger said. “It’s a weekly Bible study,” said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. “It’s the same kind of Bible study that occurs in households across America.” The Pacific Justice Institute is representing the Roessigers as they fight back against the city’s attacks. Dacus said they are hearing of a number of assaults on home Bible studies across the nation. “They are having a specific problem with this family solely because they are having family and friends over to read the bible and pray,” Dacus told Fox News. “That may be fine in some tyrannical parts of the world. That is not okay in the United States of America.” Read more here: [link to radio.foxnews.com] Don't believe the LIES fox news puts out to degrade Christian America....push comes to shove Fox is going down; we Christians see what Obama is trying to do; with bribe money trying to make Christians believe they cannot hold Bible study in their home is pure BS....the 1st Amendment cannot be changed by a city ordinance...does fox news think we Americans are that stupid??? Time for the black muslim in the white house to go to Hawaii permanently, then the UNION needs to Annex Hawaii; for treason; for protecting the illegal immigrant's BC. Time for Change....the Next Potus...Ron Paul WILL TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS NEEDED IN THIS REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. GOD BLESS RON PAUL! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12582603 Canada 09/23/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They need to sue the state for violating their constitutional rights. By-laws aren't legally binding. the constitution is the only law that has value. People go along with by-laws because they don't know their legal rights |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12582603 Canada 09/23/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Communists hate religion. Study communism and you'll learn that religion is the first thing to go. Communists want to rule like gods. They want you on your knees begging them for every little thing. A lot of people look at government as a godlike entity. They want food stamps, they beg the government. They want hydro and oil home substities, they beg the government. They want cheaper housing, they beg the government. Medical care, they beg the government. The government becomes god. People even want free birth control from the government. |
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Kirk User ID: 10818676 United States 09/23/2012 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wait till after the election, the worst police state in history will be fully implemented.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23011194 grow some fukin balls then take it back stop sitting watching it all go down the shitter. Can you see where all of this is headed? We live in a nation run by control freaks. We live in a nation where 51 percent of the people agree with this statement: ”it is necessary to give up some civil liberties in order to make the country safe from terrorism.” We live in a nation where people have become convinced that it is normal for security goons to touch the private parts of our women and our children before they are allowed to board their flights. We live in a nation where the government is installing a nationwide network of very sophisticated facial recognition cameras to watch what we are all doing. If we continue to allow our liberties and freedoms to be eroded at this pace, eventually we will have nothing left. Someday our children may wake up in a dystopian nightmare far beyond anything that George Orwell ever dreamed of. And who will be to blame? We will be, because we never stood up and said something while we had the chance. [link to whatthegovernmentcantdoforyou.com] ...all indications that the Noahides are on the march. very true a little different version of Shariah. Reminds me of "Lord of the Flies" Last Edited by Kirk on 09/23/2012 05:42 PM Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309341 United States 09/26/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Throw beer cans and wine bottles on the front lawn. Play loud secular music on the stereo. Order pizza. Make it look like you're having a secular party. "Sure officer, it's just a party...we're serving bread and wine! Yes, of course we'll turn the music down" As soon as the music is off, the cops won't want to return that night. Break out the Bibles. That's what it's come to. |
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