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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24171415 United States 09/21/2012 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list Bailouts MUST STOP! There is no end to this insanity. There has ALWAYS been a process in America to resolve business failure. It's called bankruptcy. In Title 11 of the United States Code (the Federal Bankruptcy Code), there are four bankruptcy filings: Chapter 7 - Liquidation Chapter 11 - Reorganization Chapter 12 - Adjustment of Debts of a Family Farmer with Regular Annual Income Chapter 13 - Adjustment of Debts of an Individual with Regular Income A failed business or individual will fit in one of these. There is NO SUCH THING as too big to fail. Entire NATIONS have failed. There is an orderly way to deal with failure, and it's consequences. To repeatedly pump good money after bad into a failing enterprise is fundamentally unfair to the taxpayers whose money is being stolen to prop up these entities. The loss of jobs is a red herring. Thousands of jobs are lost every day in America. Do we prop up every mom and pop operation, every small business to keep that from happening? Of course we don't. Then what is the difference between those thousands of jobs lost, and GM? And the banks? What gives them exemption from failure? HAS TO STOP. HAS TO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23646509 United States 09/21/2012 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list GM is making lots of money....LOTS....of money in china esp Buick......bailouts are a scam....as you know....its like Magic 101....politicians are scum...bankers produce the scum.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5913880 How easy would it be to spin the numbers in the opposite direction? "Oh no, we are losing so much money HELP!" ::they turn around to count the money going into their pockets:: Democrat/ Republican doesn't matter, we are screwing everything up |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 23937472 United States 09/21/2012 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list GM screwed my mom on a new lemon 2007 aveo which she is in ligation now on and BOA screwed me allowing my divorced wife who's remarried to adjust her mortgage and keep my name tied up on the papers without me agreeing to it, influencing my credit when she gets behind in the payments...all i can say for the suckers is, mess with the bull and you get the horns..or they can make both situations right and i will call off the dogs of hell ,if not oh well hells bells...you dont screw with esp/psi people who manifest the power of the creator... How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
abeliever Members User ID: 17868616 United States 09/21/2012 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list I truly can't understand why the nation is blinded by Obama. This is just one epic failure. It truly makes me sick to turn in the news only to see nicely nice talk. When we were kids, we played "what's wrong with this picture." There are so many things wrong in this administration's picture, yet no one is doing anything. Why? Really. I lived in Wisconsin and had friends in Detroit and Flint, MI. There is absolutely no success story for Obama there at all. Period. None. Just ask peeps in Flint. Hey Michigan, did y'all get the hope and change you wanted? |
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T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 23937472 United States 09/21/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list dont remind this single easy on the eyes creator looking for another creator,lol..staying on mission is first priory though.. How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1169 United States 09/21/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list Yeah we should have let GM go under so we'd have MILLIONS yes MILLIONS more unemployed... Then you fuck heads would have said "OMG why didn't Obama do something" lmao... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1169 United States 09/21/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list I truly can't understand why the nation is blinded by Obama. This is just one epic failure. It truly makes me sick to turn in the news only to see nicely nice talk. When we were kids, we played "what's wrong with this picture." There are so many things wrong in this administration's picture, yet no one is doing anything. Why? Really. Quoting: abeliever I lived in Wisconsin and had friends in Detroit and Flint, MI. There is absolutely no success story for Obama there at all. Period. None. Just ask peeps in Flint. Hey Michigan, did y'all get the hope and change you wanted? Yeah Detroit and Flint were such beautiful places prior to 2008...wtf...are you serious? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 09/21/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list Yeah we should have let GM go under so we'd have MILLIONS yes MILLIONS more unemployed... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169 Then you fuck heads would have said "OMG why didn't Obama do something" lmao... Number of Employees breakdown for GM both full and part time Number of Employees shows total number of permanent full time and part time employees working for a given company and processed through its payroll. GM Number of Employees = Full Time + Part Time = 210 K [link to www.macroaxis.com] |
abeliever Members User ID: 17868616 United States 09/21/2012 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list I truly can't understand why the nation is blinded by Obama. This is just one epic failure. It truly makes me sick to turn in the news only to see nicely nice talk. When we were kids, we played "what's wrong with this picture." There are so many things wrong in this administration's picture, yet no one is doing anything. Why? Really. Quoting: abeliever I lived in Wisconsin and had friends in Detroit and Flint, MI. There is absolutely no success story for Obama there at all. Period. None. Just ask peeps in Flint. Hey Michigan, did y'all get the hope and change you wanted? Yeah Detroit and Flint were such beautiful places prior to 2008...wtf...are you serious? Hey Michigan, did y'all get the hope and change you wanted?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1169 United States 09/21/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list I truly can't understand why the nation is blinded by Obama. This is just one epic failure. It truly makes me sick to turn in the news only to see nicely nice talk. When we were kids, we played "what's wrong with this picture." There are so many things wrong in this administration's picture, yet no one is doing anything. Why? Really. Quoting: abeliever I lived in Wisconsin and had friends in Detroit and Flint, MI. There is absolutely no success story for Obama there at all. Period. None. Just ask peeps in Flint. Hey Michigan, did y'all get the hope and change you wanted? Yeah Detroit and Flint were such beautiful places prior to 2008...wtf...are you serious? Hey Michigan, did y'all get the hope and change you wanted?? Flint has been fucked for over 20 years to think anyone was gonna make things all better in 4 years is RETARDED... How much didn't Clinton do for Flint in his 8 years? How about George W, did he remake Flint into a bustling center of industry in his 8 years? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1695255 United States 09/21/2012 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list Yeah we should have let GM go under so we'd have MILLIONS yes MILLIONS more unemployed... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169 Then you fuck heads would have said "OMG why didn't Obama do something" lmao... Number of Employees breakdown for GM both full and part time Number of Employees shows total number of permanent full time and part time employees working for a given company and processed through its payroll. GM Number of Employees = Full Time + Part Time = 210 K [link to www.macroaxis.com] It's not just Gm employees that suffer if they fail. All the companies that supply items for production, the car dealers that sell only GM, the local area town business that the GM workers go to, those businesses suppliers, etc etc etc. It would have a domino effect that will reach far further than just the 210K GM company employees. Not saying I agree with another bailout or anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1169 United States 09/21/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list Yeah we should have let GM go under so we'd have MILLIONS yes MILLIONS more unemployed... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169 Then you fuck heads would have said "OMG why didn't Obama do something" lmao... Number of Employees breakdown for GM both full and part time Number of Employees shows total number of permanent full time and part time employees working for a given company and processed through its payroll. GM Number of Employees = Full Time + Part Time = 210 K [link to www.macroaxis.com] It's not just Gm employees that suffer if they fail. All the companies that supply items for production, the car dealers that sell only GM, the local area town business that the GM workers go to, those businesses suppliers, etc etc etc. It would have a domino effect that will reach far further than just the 210K GM company employees. Not saying I agree with another bailout or anything. Exactly!!! Some here just don't grasp these things... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1169 United States 09/21/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list Yeah we should have let GM go under so we'd have MILLIONS yes MILLIONS more unemployed... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169 Then you fuck heads would have said "OMG why didn't Obama do something" lmao... Number of Employees breakdown for GM both full and part time Number of Employees shows total number of permanent full time and part time employees working for a given company and processed through its payroll. GM Number of Employees = Full Time + Part Time = 210 K [link to www.macroaxis.com] Do some more research...do you even understand how many parts go into an automobile? Do you think GM produces every part? |
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T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 23937472 United States 09/21/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list i like my 98 extended 4x4 chevy truck,first year of push button 4 wheel drive and its got the Detroit door sticker when they made them chevy tough..you can keep the new plastic ones.. How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 09/21/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list Yeah we should have let GM go under so we'd have MILLIONS yes MILLIONS more unemployed... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169 Then you fuck heads would have said "OMG why didn't Obama do something" lmao... Number of Employees breakdown for GM both full and part time Number of Employees shows total number of permanent full time and part time employees working for a given company and processed through its payroll. GM Number of Employees = Full Time + Part Time = 210 K [link to www.macroaxis.com] It's not just Gm employees that suffer if they fail. All the companies that supply items for production, the car dealers that sell only GM, the local area town business that the GM workers go to, those businesses suppliers, etc etc etc. It would have a domino effect that will reach far further than just the 210K GM company employees. Not saying I agree with another bailout or anything. List of top GM suppliers (foreign suppliers in red): · Acumuladores Moura Brazil 1 · ADAC Plastics DBA ADAC Automotive US 2 · AP Plasman Corporation Canada 3 · Asia Co., Ltd. South Korea 3 · Auma S.A. de C.V Mexico 7 · Autoline Industries USA US 1 · BASF SE Germany 6 · Bend All Automotive Inc Canada 4 · Bose Corporation US 3 · Central Corporation South Korea 1 · Chemico Mays, LLC. / Chemico Systems, Inc. US 1 · Clark-Cutler-McDermott Company (CCM) US 1 · Compuware US 3 · Cosma International Canada 6 · Daedong System South Korea 2 · Daewon Kang Up South Korea 4 · Denso Corporation Japan 17 · Detroit Technologies Inc. US 3 · DLH Industries US 3 · Dongwon-Tech Co., Ltd. South Korea 2 · Dynamic Manufacturing Co. US 11 · ECM (Vehicle Delivery Service) Ltd. UK 2 · EMC US 6 · E-Won Solutech South Korea 2 · FANUC LTD Japan 6 · ICAHN ENTERPRISES LP US 4 · FedEx Corporation US 10 · Fujitsu Ten Japan 1 · GENTEX Corporation US 14 · George P. Johnson Company US 1 · Cartera Gestamp S.L. Spain 13 · Grand Traverse Plastics US 2 · Grimaldi Group Italy 9 · Ground Effects Ltd. Canada 1 · Guangdong Hongtu Technology Co., Ltd China 3 · Hanwha TechM Co., Ltd South Korea 2 · Henan THB Electric Co. Ltd. China 3 · Hirotec Corporation Japan 6 · LEIF HÖEGH & CO.AS Norway 7 · International Automotive Components (IAC) US 2 · Johnson Controls US 4 · Jones Lang LaSalle US 3 · Jaeyoung Solutec Co., LTD South Korea 2 · Kafus South Korea 3 · Kawasaki Kisen Kaisha Ltd. (K-Line) Japan 4 · Kirchhoff Automotive GmbH & Co KG Germany 7 · Kwang Jin Sang Gong South Korea 9 · L&W Group US 3 · Laird Group PLC US 5 · LAKESIDE PLASTICS Canada 1 · Lear Corporation US 4 · Mando Corporation South Korea 5 · Mann+Hummel Germany 18 · Mett Pty Ltd Australia 6 · Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Climate Control, Inc Japan 6 · Mitsubishi Electric Japan 11 · Mold Masters Company US 1 · MRM Worldwide US 1 · MWM International US · NGK Spark Plug Co., LTD. Japan 9 · Nippon Seiki Corporation, Ltd Japan 3 · Posco South Korea 3 · PST Eletronica SA Brazil 2 · Pyeong-Hwa Automotive Co. South Korea 4 · Ryder US 5 · Saint Jean Industries France 1 · Shape Corp. US 7 · SL Corporation South Korea 14 · Starcom MediaVest Group France 1 · SUNDRAM FASTENERS LIMITED India 6 · Sungwoo Hitech Co., ltd South Korea 2 · TMS Transport- und Montagesysteme Gmbh Austria 1 · TV Minority Company US 7 · Van-Rob Canada 13 · Wooshin Systems Co., Ltd South Korea 6 · YEONG HWA METAL CO LTD. South Korea 2 [link to www.reliableplant.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2231364 Canada 09/21/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list With all due criticism of Obama, the bailouts for the auto industry were authorized in December 2008 under Bush's government, a month before Obama took office. |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 23937472 United States 09/21/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list I've owned just on GM product. an S-10 pick up. I had lots and lots of problems with the truck. I swore I'd never buy another GM. So far I haven't. Quoting: indiandave How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 09/21/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list Yeah we should have let GM go under so we'd have MILLIONS yes MILLIONS more unemployed... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169 Then you fuck heads would have said "OMG why didn't Obama do something" lmao... Number of Employees breakdown for GM both full and part time Number of Employees shows total number of permanent full time and part time employees working for a given company and processed through its payroll. GM Number of Employees = Full Time + Part Time = 210 K [link to www.macroaxis.com] It's not just Gm employees that suffer if they fail. All the companies that supply items for production, the car dealers that sell only GM, the local area town business that the GM workers go to, those businesses suppliers, etc etc etc. It would have a domino effect that will reach far further than just the 210K GM company employees. Not saying I agree with another bailout or anything. List of top GM suppliers (foreign suppliers in red): · Acumuladores Moura Brazil 1 · ADAC Plastics DBA ADAC Automotive US 2 · AP Plasman Corporation Canada 3 · Asia Co., Ltd. South Korea 3 · Auma S.A. de C.V Mexico 7 · Autoline Industries USA US 1 · BASF SE Germany 6 · Bend All Automotive Inc Canada 4 · Bose Corporation US 3 · Central Corporation South Korea 1 · Chemico Mays, LLC. / Chemico Systems, Inc. US 1 · Clark-Cutler-McDermott Company (CCM) US 1 · Compuware US 3 · Cosma International Canada 6 · Daedong System South Korea 2 · Daewon Kang Up South Korea 4 · Denso Corporation Japan 17 · Detroit Technologies Inc. US 3 · DLH Industries US 3 · Dongwon-Tech Co., Ltd. South Korea 2 · Dynamic Manufacturing Co. US 11 · ECM (Vehicle Delivery Service) Ltd. UK 2 · EMC US 6 · E-Won Solutech South Korea 2 · FANUC LTD Japan 6 · ICAHN ENTERPRISES LP US 4 · FedEx Corporation US 10 · Fujitsu Ten Japan 1 · GENTEX Corporation US 14 · George P. Johnson Company US 1 · Cartera Gestamp S.L. Spain 13 · Grand Traverse Plastics US 2 · Grimaldi Group Italy 9 · Ground Effects Ltd. Canada 1 · Guangdong Hongtu Technology Co., Ltd China 3 · Hanwha TechM Co., Ltd South Korea 2 · Henan THB Electric Co. Ltd. China 3 · Hirotec Corporation Japan 6 · LEIF HÖEGH & CO.AS Norway 7 · International Automotive Components (IAC) US 2 · Johnson Controls US 4 · Jones Lang LaSalle US 3 · Jaeyoung Solutec Co., LTD South Korea 2 · Kafus South Korea 3 · Kawasaki Kisen Kaisha Ltd. (K-Line) Japan 4 · Kirchhoff Automotive GmbH & Co KG Germany 7 · Kwang Jin Sang Gong South Korea 9 · L&W Group US 3 · Laird Group PLC US 5 · LAKESIDE PLASTICS Canada 1 · Lear Corporation US 4 · Mando Corporation South Korea 5 · Mann+Hummel Germany 18 · Mett Pty Ltd Australia 6 · Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Climate Control, Inc Japan 6 · Mitsubishi Electric Japan 11 · Mold Masters Company US 1 · MRM Worldwide US 1 · MWM International US · NGK Spark Plug Co., LTD. Japan 9 · Nippon Seiki Corporation, Ltd Japan 3 · Posco South Korea 3 · PST Eletronica SA Brazil 2 · Pyeong-Hwa Automotive Co. South Korea 4 · Ryder US 5 · Saint Jean Industries France 1 · Shape Corp. US 7 · SL Corporation South Korea 14 · Starcom MediaVest Group France 1 · SUNDRAM FASTENERS LIMITED India 6 · Sungwoo Hitech Co., ltd South Korea 2 · TMS Transport- und Montagesysteme Gmbh Austria 1 · TV Minority Company US 7 · Van-Rob Canada 13 · Wooshin Systems Co., Ltd South Korea 6 · YEONG HWA METAL CO LTD. South Korea 2 [link to www.reliableplant.com] ok, how much will the US suffer, again? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1169 United States 09/21/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list and we can put all the workers to work fixing our bridges, Quoting: there ain't no God gas lines, sewer lines, and water lines. Yeah we could do that if the Congress would stop their obstructionist bullshit... I traveled all over this country throughout the summer and I have never seen LESS road construction...NEVER... |
MississippiBlkMan User ID: 494863 United States 09/21/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list If Mitt Romney wins he needs to let GM, Chrysler and the UAW fail like the many airlines that have failed. Are you better off today, than you were 4 years ago? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24178748 United States 09/21/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again -BofA going down. Looks like Obama bail-out plan was fail for many corps. See recipient list It's not just Gm employees that suffer if they fail. All the companies that supply items for production, the car dealers that sell only GM, the local area town business that the GM workers go to, those businesses suppliers, etc etc etc. It would have a domino effect that will reach far further than just the 210K GM company employees. Not saying I agree with another bailout or anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1695255 But American Airlines is in bankruptcy, but it's still flying airplanes, still employs pilots (although many of them right now are into a work slowdown, because they think they're not well compensated enough), which still employs all the people who feed off that company. |
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