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Japan has not had a Military since 1947

 
The Fifth Element

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Japan has not had a Military since 1947
"Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution is a clause in the National Constitution of Japan that prohibits an act of war by the state. The Constitution came into effect on May 3, 1947, following World War II."


"Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution not only forbids the use of force as a means to settling international disputes but also forbids Japan from maintaining an army, navy or air force. Therefore, in strictly legal terms, the Self Defense Forces are not land, sea or air forces, but are extensions of the national police force."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The U.S. is their military. I lived there for a year and I saw more U.S. military bases there than I have seen here. Japan will no be going to war we will.
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
while they don't have an official military they have the japan self-defense forces

"The JSDF numbered 239,430 in 2005 with 147,737 in the Ground Self-Defense Force, 44,327 in the Maritime Self-Defense Force, 45,517 in the Air Self-Defense Force, and 1,849 in the Joint Staff Office. Reserves numbered 57,899"

source: wikipedia

Also they officially have no nuclear weapons, but with there 50 odd nuclear power plants, surely they have devoloped a couple before fukishima pretty much halted there refinement capabilities.
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
But yes, I agree Japan gets attacked by anyone, will pretty much draw us in to a war.
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
"Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution is a clause in the National Constitution of Japan that prohibits an act of war by the state. The Constitution came into effect on May 3, 1947, following World War II."


"Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution not only forbids the use of force as a means to settling international disputes but also forbids Japan from maintaining an army, navy or air force. Therefore, in strictly legal terms, the Self Defense Forces are not land, sea or air forces, but are extensions of the national police force."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The U.S. is their military. I lived there for a year and I saw more U.S. military bases there than I have seen here. Japan will no be going to war we will.
 Quoting: The Fifth Element


Japan has realized since Clinton that relying on the US for security under Socialist Democrats may not be a good idea, and have been steadily building up, and modernizing it's forces. Especially the Air Force, since it's the most bang for the buck.

The Mitsu F-2's outperform the F-18's they were cloned from, and since we wouldn't sell them the F-22 Raptor, they are developing their own version, the Mitsubishi ATD-X. they passed completely on the F-35 JSF...
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
"Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution is a clause in the National Constitution of Japan that prohibits an act of war by the state. The Constitution came into effect on May 3, 1947, following World War II."


"Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution not only forbids the use of force as a means to settling international disputes but also forbids Japan from maintaining an army, navy or air force. Therefore, in strictly legal terms, the Self Defense Forces are not land, sea or air forces, but are extensions of the national police force."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The U.S. is their military. I lived there for a year and I saw more U.S. military bases there than I have seen here. Japan will no be going to war we will.
 Quoting: The Fifth Element


Though not a member state in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), Japan is a global partner of NATO. It is well understood that the U.S. plays a central role in NATO. In January of 2011, NATO embraced a new Strategic Concept which involved strengthening strategic ties to "Contact Countries" such as Japan.

[link to www.tokyofoundation.org]
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
while they don't have an official military they have the japan self-defense forces

"The JSDF numbered 239,430 in 2005 with 147,737 in the Ground Self-Defense Force, 44,327 in the Maritime Self-Defense Force, 45,517 in the Air Self-Defense Force, and 1,849 in the Joint Staff Office. Reserves numbered 57,899"

source: wikipedia

Also they officially have no nuclear weapons, but with there 50 odd nuclear power plants, surely they have devoloped a couple before fukishima pretty much halted there refinement capabilities.
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The Japanese self-defense is pretty much like the Coast Guard. When I lived in Osaka I always drove by their vessels. I did notice that one of them had a mounted gun on the front, but never saw more than two boats. In speaking with the people there they really do not have much faith in them. I would also think that we have some Nukes there at some of our military bases.
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
We nuked Japan into neutrality and we can do the same with Islam...or just finish them off if they don't have the brains to quit like Japan did...



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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
while they don't have an official military they have the japan self-defense forces

"The JSDF numbered 239,430 in 2005 with 147,737 in the Ground Self-Defense Force, 44,327 in the Maritime Self-Defense Force, 45,517 in the Air Self-Defense Force, and 1,849 in the Joint Staff Office. Reserves numbered 57,899"

source: wikipedia

Also they officially have no nuclear weapons, but with there 50 odd nuclear power plants, surely they have devoloped a couple before fukishima pretty much halted there refinement capabilities.
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The Japanese self-defense is pretty much like the Coast Guard. When I lived in Osaka I always drove by their vessels. I did notice that one of them had a mounted gun on the front, but never saw more than two boats. In speaking with the people there they really do not have much faith in them. I would also think that we have some Nukes there at some of our military bases.
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Dont look like coast guards ships.
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
We nuked Japan into neutrality and we can do the same with Islam...or just finish them off if they don't have the brains to quit like Japan did...



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Hey Brief, the conversation is about a potentially different war............maybe nukes wouldn't be the first step....? Just saying........................
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
while they don't have an official military they have the japan self-defense forces

"The JSDF numbered 239,430 in 2005 with 147,737 in the Ground Self-Defense Force, 44,327 in the Maritime Self-Defense Force, 45,517 in the Air Self-Defense Force, and 1,849 in the Joint Staff Office. Reserves numbered 57,899"

source: wikipedia

Also they officially have no nuclear weapons, but with there 50 odd nuclear power plants, surely they have devoloped a couple before fukishima pretty much halted there refinement capabilities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21956579



The Japanese self-defense is pretty much like the Coast Guard. When I lived in Osaka I always drove by their vessels. I did notice that one of them had a mounted gun on the front, but never saw more than two boats. In speaking with the people there they really do not have much faith in them. I would also think that we have some Nukes there at some of our military bases.
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Dont look like coast guards ships.
[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20574169


Have you seen our Coast Guard ships and aircraft.
[link to www.uscg.mil]


Just because our ships are painted white and orange does not mean they cannot do some damage. I would think that our Coast Guard is just as capable of Japan's Self Defense Force.

Last Edited by The Fifth Element on 09/20/2012 10:09 PM
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
oh yes they have
it is called a self defense force

some people think they have nukes as well.

and they have uncle sam as an ally too.
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
Don't underestimate Japan!
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
Don't underestimate Japan!
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I agree, they used to have a powerful military and are very highly skilled people. They are still kind of sitting ducks in the Pacific on an island the size of California. I am glad they are on our side, they crazy thing is that most of them have forgiven us for what we did to them.
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
The US will give up Japan for debt forgivness.
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
Don't underestimate Japan!
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I second thatfighter1
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
Don't underestimate Japan!
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I second thatfighter1
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Good luck...suicide is a Japanese hobby and tradition...





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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
Don't underestimate Japan!
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I second thatfighter1
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They have the ability to Pearl countries. Do not forget the Kamikazee pilots. TORO TORO TORO
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
And yet, they still have a bunch of guys with guns.

How defiant of them...
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
We nuked Japan into neutrality and we can do the same with Islam...or just finish them off if they don't have the brains to quit like Japan did...



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 Quoting: BRIEF


You don't have eyes to see what's happening around you...do ya?

You just run around shootin' that mouth off and have no idea what's occurring before your very eyes...right???

Its fun to watch "The Fool" play his games not even realizing that HE HIMSELF HAS ALREADY BEEN PLAYED.

SEE THIS???
[link to worldmathaba.net]

WE ARE ISLAM. -Barack Hussein Obama-

NEED I SAY MORE??? Why do you think we're so placating to their "sensibilities?"

--C'mon MAN???--

What do you think those FEMA CAMPS ARE FOR? -Am I getting easier to hear?-
Why do you think these cops are running around shooting DOGS in record numbers?
Why do you think that our cops are beginning to look like STORM TROOPERS and are beating WHITES in record numbers?
Why do you think we PROTECT Islam's RIGHTS over our own?
Why do you think they're letting blacks roam the streets and beat down whites almost with impunity?
Why do you think all of those pig farms were being killed off by the State?

Your arrogance is only overshadowed by your IGNORANCE.

Now...the question is. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT??? Is this the America you envisioned, because if it is...then one day, YOU WON'T BE EATING BACON ANYMORE EITHER. Your inherent racism has eaten any ability that you have to think straight and see what is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

Those "bombs" are going towards our supposed "enemies." They'll have them too. You'll see. wink

I bet you can hear me now...right? BTW- who do you think is actually HELPING IRAN attain their nuclear weapons? That one might twist your brain around if you gave it some thought. -OR, MAYBE you HAVE.-

Later...BRIEF.

Last Edited by Serenity777 on 09/21/2012 02:30 AM
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
BRIEF
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Re: Japan has not had a Military since 1947
We nuked Japan into neutrality and we can do the same with Islam...or just finish them off if they don't have the brains to quit like Japan did...



fatmanlittleboy
 Quoting: BRIEF


You don't have eyes to see what's happening around you...do ya?

You just run around shootin' that mouth off and have no idea what's occurring before your very eyes...right???

Its fun to watch "The Fool" play his games not even realizing that HE HIMSELF HAS ALREADY BEEN PLAYED.

SEE THIS???
[link to worldmathaba.net]

WE ARE ISLAM. -Barack Hussein Obama-

NEED I SAY MORE??? Why do you think we're so placating to their "sensibilities?"

--C'mon MAN???--

What do you think those FEMA CAMPS ARE FOR? -Am I getting easier to hear?-
Why do you think these cops are running around shooting DOGS in record numbers?
Why do you think that our cops are beginning to look like STORM TROOPERS and are beating WHITES in record numbers?
Why do you think we PROTECT Islam's RIGHTS over our own?
Why do you think they're letting blacks roam the streets and beat down whites almost with impunity?
Why do you think all of those pig farms were being killed off by the State?

Your arrogance is only overshadowed by your IGNORANCE.

Now...the question is. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT??? Is this the America you envisioned, because if it is...then one day, YOU WON'T BE EATING BACON ANYMORE EITHER. Your inherent racism has eaten any ability that you have to think straight and see what is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

Those "bombs" are going towards our supposed "enemies." They'll have them too. You'll see. wink

I bet you can hear me now...right? BTW- who do you think is actually HELPING IRAN attain their nuclear weapons? That one might twist your brain around if you gave it some thought. -OR, MAYBE you HAVE.-

Later...BRIEF.
 Quoting: Serenity777


Turn the middle east to green glass! oh and fuck you for talking down to me when I'm your intellectual superior...fool
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Heterosexual pride!

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