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PAY ATTENTION NOW, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO DOOM: A Shortage of Bonds to Back Derivatives Bets

 
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Bernakes QE3 IS BUYING MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES AND THEN IS GOING TO PROP UP THE DERIVITIVES MARKETS BY BUYING TRESURY BONDS TO THE TUNE OF 40 BILLION DOLLARS A MONTH AND WHEN THE DERIVITIVES MARKET COLLAPSES AND THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE US TAX PAYERS PAY FOR IT ........OVER 600 TRILLION

Starting next year, new rules will force banks, hedge funds, and other traders to back up more of their bets in the $648 trillion derivatives market by posting collateral. While the rules are designed to prevent another financial meltdown, a shortage of Treasury bonds and other top-rated debt to use as collateral may undermine the effort to make the system safer.

Derivatives allow buyers to bet on the direction of currencies, interest rates, and markets, insure against defaults on bonds, or lock in a price on commodities. The new rules are rooted in the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act, passed in reaction to the near-collapse of the financial system in 2008, which was caused in part because derivatives contracts weren’t backed by enough collateral. American International Group (AIG) needed a $182.3 billion bailout from the U.S. government after it failed to make good on derivatives trades with some of the world’s largest banks. In response, Congress required that most privately negotiated derivatives transactions, known a

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And this story is from Bloomberg admitting the derevitives market is over 600 trillion........AND ITS REALLY MORE LIKE A 1000 TRILLION........AND
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Of course if China dumps either its yen or us dollar holdings this is all academic derivitives aren't the only bullet in the chamber.
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Good link OP. Confirms everything we pretty much knew.

Put simply:

FED creates 40 Billion "out of air" and buys Mortgage-Backed-Securities (MBS) from banks PER MONTH. The banks take that 40 Billion and will NOT loan it out to small businesses but rather reinvest it in the Treasury market, making money there and helping the FED keep the game going (paying the interest on our debt and suppressing rates).

Bernanke then uses the 40 Billion PER MONTH of MBS he just bought with YOUR money, and uses that as collateral to secure 9x that in DERIVATIVES!!

That's fractional-reserve banking for ya. That is why this is the largest ponzi scheme in world history.

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Here is latest from pastor linzy Williamson as of 9-19 great interview
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Here is latest from pastor linzy Williamson as of 9-19 great interview
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His timeline from yrs ago seems to be right on track.

Good thread OP 5*
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LOL $600 Trillion. I don't even think there's that much wealth on Earth.

Am I the only one that thinks these elite bankers will either:

a) be killed by the masses
b) kill off all the sheep
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LOL $600 Trillion. I don't even think there's that much wealth on Earth.

Am I the only one that thinks these elite bankers will either:

a) be killed by the masses
b) kill off all the sheep
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They need sheep. We do the crap they don't want to do, all for their benefit.
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Does this mean its time to max out the credit card?
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please quit jinx-ing our doom with prediction of doom --- doom only happens by stealth... TY much.
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Here is latest from pastor linzy Williamson as of 9-19 great interview
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Thanks.
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Here is latest from pastor linzy Williamson as of 9-19 great interview
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Thanks for this too.

I have been following his timeline for quiet some time... lots of trade war news this past 2 weeks, however the sheeple wouldn't know this.

Looks like the only part left for the timeline is: feds raise rate, s&p to drop 15%, and euro crash followed by US.. no?
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""""
Bernakes QE3 IS BUYING MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES AND THEN IS GOING TO PROP UP THE DERIVITIVES MARKETS BY BUYING TRESURY BONDS TO THE TUNE OF 40 BILLION DOLLARS A MONTH AND WHEN THE DERIVITIVES MARKET COLLAPSES AND THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE US TAX PAYERS PAY FOR IT ........OVER 600 TRILLION

""""

If these bigshot finance parasites and clowns think that taxpayers are going to pay them 600 trillion for their attrocities agains humanity?

I think folks would be fitting them with a Hemp Necktie first?
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Here is latest from pastor linzy Williamson as of 9-19 great interview
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24114451


Thanks for this too.

I have been following his timeline for quiet some time... lots of trade war news this past 2 weeks, however the sheeple wouldn't know this.

Looks like the only part left for the timeline is: feds raise rate, s&p to drop 15%, and euro crash followed by US.. no?
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


Yea, but I don't think the feds necessarily have to raise rates before the collapse.
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Here is latest from pastor linzy Williamson as of 9-19 great interview
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24114451


Thanks for this too.

I have been following his timeline for quiet some time... lots of trade war news this past 2 weeks, however the sheeple wouldn't know this.

Looks like the only part left for the timeline is: feds raise rate, s&p to drop 15%, and euro crash followed by US.. no?
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


Yea, but I don't think the feds necessarily have to raise rates before the collapse.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


It would happen pretty quick at that point.

Everyone dumps bonds-->FED immediately raises rates-->Stocks crash etc

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My retirement fund is heavi?ly invested in gov bonds if there isa world collapse is everyones retirement savings gone
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SOUNDS GREAT !

Let's back a crooked scheme/derivitives, with a Ponzi scheme called " The United States of America ", a CORPORATION, NOT the Constitutional government originally founder AND make the people who are NOT responsible PAY FOR IT ALL when it FAILS !

US Corporation is nearly in that much debt itself, so HOW does it intend to 'back' anything, especially when the dollar, a FIAT currency GOES BELLY UP ???

Of course our Jewish banksters will NEVER be connected with ANY of the problem, LOL !
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My retirement fund is heavi?ly invested in gov bonds if there isa world collapse is everyones retirement savings gone
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Well, there will be a lot of factors that will decide that. It is not really a straight yes or no answer. I would suggest contacting a financial professional if you are serious about protecting your retirement. Explain your worries, and go over options for protecting your nest egg.

Good luck
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Here is latest from pastor linzy Williamson as of 9-19 great interview
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24114451


Thanks for this too.

I have been following his timeline for quiet some time... lots of trade war news this past 2 weeks, however the sheeple wouldn't know this.

Looks like the only part left for the timeline is: feds raise rate, s&p to drop 15%, and euro crash followed by US.. no?
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


Yea, but I don't think the feds necessarily have to raise rates before the collapse.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


It would happen pretty quick at that point.

Everyone dumps bonds-->FED immediately raises rates-->Stocks crash etc

dominoes
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Yea, more of a simultaneous thing.
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this is so stupid. the doom is not going to be financial.................................
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this is so stupid. the doom is not going to be financial.................................
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Yes it sure will. Nibiru isnt real. Megaquakes are not predictable. Yellowstone is just fine. The sun is calming.

The doom WILL be financial.
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this is so stupid. the doom is not going to be financial.................................
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The new world order has to be sold to everybody who is not at the top as if the events taking place were not pre planned....including world war,nuclear detonations,economic meltdowns....its all drama to keep the chain of command intact and thus still obligated to there superiors and not a free agent to join the resistance.PERIOD.
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$40 billion per month in mortgage aquisitions and going after strategic defaulters with prison time. Link to article below.

The Federal Housing Finance Administration (FHFA) recently announced that “strategic defaulters”, i.e. those homeowners who have abandoned their mortgage because they could not continue to make the monthly payments will be jailed for this “crime”.

The FHFA oversees Freddie and Fannie Mac, the mortgage corporation owned by the US government. The FHFA are focusing their efforts on criminally prosecuting all American citizens “who abuse the FHFA programs” by walking away from their foreclosure.

Statistically speaking, according to the FDIC:

1 out of 200 homes will be foreclosed upon
250,000 new households enter foreclosure every 3 months
6 out of 10 homeowners are delinquent on their mortgage


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Here is latest from pastor linzy Williamson as of 9-19 great interview
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Printing $40 billion per month will kill the purchasing power of the dollar. With escalating food and fuel prices, it'll be difficult to make mortgage payments. People will have to either pay rent to the Fed for the rest of their lives through foreclosure or walk away and end up in debtor's prison.

Time is getting close...
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And this story is from Bloomberg admitting the derevitives market is over 600 trillion........AND ITS REALLY MORE LIKE A 1000 TRILLION........AND
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That would be a quadrillion
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this is some serious shit!!! I have been waiting for over a month the hear back from BoA on the DOJ program they have offered. they said it would be a few weeks to a minth tops. its been almost 2 months so maybe they knew this even back on July...
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interesting.

What does this mean for currency traders? Less leverage? bigger spreads?

This is important..
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its all just digits on computer screens. maybe the computers will gokaput? :dunno:
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most of you are ABSOLUTEY clueless as to HOW the credit, repo & derivatives markets REALLY operate.... the nonsense espoused on this thread so far proves it!
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LOL $600 Trillion. I don't even think there's that much wealth on Earth.

Am I the only one that thinks these elite bankers will either:

a) be killed by the masses
b) kill off all the sheep
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10957384


They need sheep. We do the crap they don't want to do, all for their benefit.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


There isn't enough sheep in the US to bail them out. That means every tax payer owes the government $20 Million each. Oh, OK, right.
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LOL $600 Trillion. I don't even think there's that much wealth on Earth.

Am I the only one that thinks these elite bankers will either:

a) be killed by the masses
b) kill off all the sheep
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10957384


They need sheep. We do the crap they don't want to do, all for their benefit.
 Quoting: *Heisenberg*


There isn't enough sheep in the US to bail them out. That means every tax payer owes the government $20 Million each. Oh, OK, right.
 Quoting: Yogi2493


I just noticed that I miscalculated above. It should be only $2 Million per each tax payer, not $20 Million. But then, what's the difference? Who the heck has an extra $2 Million to pay taxes with? Most people don't even have $2,000 in their checking accounts.
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