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James Holmes, New (ODD) Mugshot photo.... Still the same guy?

 
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What they need to do is make him show his teeth. He had very prominent teeth and an unusual smile when he showed them (campus pictures/lecture). I wanna see teeth and see if they are anywhere close to sameness.
 Quoting: Kissplash


we have seen the analyses already, the whole face doesn't match. This is not Homes. Holmes is dead. There was a huge trail of blood hardly anyone noticed out the back door. I just can't figure out why they didn't say he was dead, and put this joker in his place.
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where are the parents? they have not said anything! Did he have mental problems? Is this a new thing with him? How does a smart guy with a bright future end up like this if he is not ill? So why don't we hear from family members?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19723413


i agree. some sort of interview, something. They sealed this case ass tight. I want some answers.


hopefully somebody will make a movie out of it
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did anyone notice, his eye lashes are gone lol?

and what are those two marks on the side of the eyes

maybe he peeled his eyelashes off? weird shit

he looks alot different
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he looks really drugged up
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did anyone notice, his eye lashes are gone lol?

and what are those two marks on the side of the eyes

maybe he peeled his eyelashes off? weird shit

he looks alot different
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omg you are right and his eye brows look weird too but has lots of facial hair
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Yep, I think it is still him, just on some different type of drug now.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76



Yeah, off the haldol and on the serotonin uptake inhibitors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23941422


^^ Somebody listens to the radio guy we cant talk about, but this somebody doesn't even know what the fuck they are saying. "bla bla bla....repeat something that sounds clever but i dont have a fucking clue what the words mean, let alone how to pronounce them"...
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This pic...

[link to www.bing.com]

needs to be compared with the new one.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


No...that's what they want you to do. If you look at the original mugshot he has a wrinkled forehead. That's gone now even when he's bugging his eyes out. If you look you will see he's tucked in his lips so he's not really smiling. Look at websites that show you real smiles from fake (body language). Eyes squeeze and wrinkle when smiling like the picture above. Dimples show like in the picture above. When you struggle to keep eyes open foreheads can wrinkle...I say can because some people have more lax skin than others do. Just think about it.
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Actually, if you look close, you will see this pic was made to mimic the original closely.

Put them side by side....

Original has a cartilage piercing in the right(facing) ear. It's not conclusive but you don't see the hole in the new pic, even though there's less hair.Of course it may have closed, but it looks like a beefy piercing.

Look at the distance from the bottom of the nose to lip. Make sure you resize first.

Nose on the original has a flat spot on the tip of the nose. Look carefully.
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This must be what you look like when your mind is erased and overwritten.
in warm pursuit...
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This pic...

[link to www.bing.com]

needs to be compared with the new one.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


No...that's what they want you to do. If you look at the original mugshot he has a wrinkled forehead. That's gone now even when he's bugging his eyes out. If you look you will see he's tucked in his lips so he's not really smiling. Look at websites that show you real smiles from fake (body language). Eyes squeeze and wrinkle when smiling like the picture above. Dimples show like in the picture above. When you struggle to keep eyes open foreheads can wrinkle...I say can because some people have more lax skin than others do. Just think about it.
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Actually, if you look close, you will see this pic was made to mimic the original closely.

Put them side by side....

Original has a cartilage piercing in the right(facing) ear. It's not conclusive but you don't see the hole in the new pic, even though there's less hair.Of course it may have closed, but it looks like a beefy piercing.

Look at the distance from the bottom of the nose to lip. Make sure you resize first.

Nose on the original has a flat spot on the tip of the nose. Look carefully.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


That's exactly the point I was trying to make! They are either manipulating the photo, the actual person being photographed, or both. They tried to get him to smile naturally without all the lipage but they can't because the lips are totally different from each other. Also you can't mimic dimples...you either have them or you don't when you smile, hence letting him become a hairy sasquatch. When you smile for real eyes squint. The couldn't get him to make his eyes look the same when he really smiled and there was probably the wrinkling of forehead issue so they botoxed him told him to give a tight lipped smile and keep his eyes open fully. Only when they botoxed him it affected his eyes. Look it up. They also got rid of the hair since it was probably turned completely orange/white and damaged from a bad dye job.

I'm gonna check out those things you mentioned in bit...just gotta get the child off to school.
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Can someone embed?

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21405802


omgwtf

HOLMESZUCKERBERG
 Quoting: G3


Yeah, and James Holmes and Mark Zuckerberg both look like "Data" from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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looks to me like he is speaking to the world through his eyes. like he is screaming "look at me... they did this to me." The best way to feel what he might be trying to tell us is to mimic his face. try it in you will see what I mean
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Idk OP. His face looks a lot fuller than in his original mugshot photos.
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If they could get him sane they would. They want to take him to trial.
 Quoting: WindyMind


He is not the guilty party this is a game. time to wake the fuck up people
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301


What is insanity? possession (by what) mind control (by who or what) Whatever happened whether it is explained by psychiatry or the lunatic fringe I don't think his mind is ever coming back to "normal" or even anything that could pass for sane enough to put on trial.
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Can someone embed?

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21405802


Fuck they have drugged him up so hard.
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still the same red haired one we saw but NOT the real Holmes still.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301



What is your theory?
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


go check all the pics comparing the two. The actual James from college etc and this one. This one is a stand in of some sort, probably getting paid. Also not long ago, somebody researched some of the other supposed crimes Holmes did and found THIS person with that crime. This person and the real holmes are not the same people. I will leave it up to folks to try ti figure out the game, because it does involve the real holmes because of Dad's connections, but why this other person is acting the role and perhaps drugged, who knows.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301


Oh I have. I have been researching this hardcore since day 1, just trying to see where everyone else's heads are. What other crimes did he supposedly do? The only thing I know of is running that red light.
"Imagine no possessions"

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This must be what you look like when your mind is erased and overwritten.
 Quoting: Truthache


^^THIS^^ verysad
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"As Above, So Below"

)O(
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I didn't knew what to expect but his photo scared the sh&it out of me. He is faking that look or what?
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prolly
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He is in the right category for adult onset schitzophrenia as far as his age.
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those who claim the pictures of holmes are not him are disinfo

the whole point was

a)to frame an innocenet man
so it is holmes

or

b) to just allow holmes to take all the blame and let the other shooters off- so it holmes

and anyway , the pictures are obviously holmes in any case.
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holmes you stupid fuck
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Also, why did they take a second mug shot? is that normal?
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Yes and no.

couple years ago be was a normal kid

Then his Scizophrenia started kicing in

At the beginning it was hard to tell what, if anything was wrong, the disease progresses that way.

He was at the age where schiz usually starts, he is a male (much more common in males) and he was in a mathy field of study (for some reason its more common in mathy people).

the classic schiz stare was not fully there in his mugshot, but it's fully there in his most recent photo. The stare is actually due to eye malfunction.

Sciz is a brain degenerative disorder and we don't know the cause and we don't have a cure. Since the brain controls the eyes, you can even see the brain degeneration progression through the development if the schiz stare, which is more haunting than a normal person eyes staring at you.

Annnnyway.. . It is him but it's not.

If you knew him a few years ago and thought he would never do something like this, you were right.

That guy is dead, the brain has degenerated and this new personality is the result. It will keep degenerating and he may even become catatonic.

If we could find the cause or cure for schizophrenia ... well.... Hope we do someday.
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Yes and no.

couple years ago be was a normal kid

Then his Scizophrenia started kicing in

At the beginning it was hard to tell what, if anything was wrong, the disease progresses that way.

He was at the age where schiz usually starts, he is a male (much more common in males) and he was in a mathy field of study (for some reason its more common in mathy people).

the classic schiz stare was not fully there in his mugshot, but it's fully there in his most recent photo. The stare is actually due to eye malfunction.

Sciz is a brain degenerative disorder and we don't know the cause and we don't have a cure. Since the brain controls the eyes, you can even see the brain degeneration progression through the development if the schiz stare, which is more haunting than a normal person eyes staring at you.

Annnnyway.. . It is him but it's not.

If you knew him a few years ago and thought he would never do something like this, you were right.

That guy is dead, the brain has degenerated and this new personality is the result. It will keep degenerating and he may even become catatonic.

If we could find the cause or cure for schizophrenia ... well.... Hope we do someday.
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He's doing the eye thing on purpose, right?

He's acting.

This doesn't ring true.
 Quoting: William_the_Bloody


He's not acting. He's probably sedated and his face drooping and they tell him he has to open his eyes wide and look alert.

This is a boy who may have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. He is in state custody. He's not getting the careful medical care a medical student gets from a university clinic. He's getting what the state is willing to pay for. Schizophrenics in the US have a poorer prognosis than schizophrenics in the third world because we overmedicate.

The newer medicines may be "normalizing" but heavy tranquilizers are still used. They aren't treating this boy. They are sedating him.
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Sorry for the double post. and typos aplenty. I'm not retarded, its my phone, honest.
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lol
he does a laughner for his captors
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well said.....1rof1
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He's doing the eye thing on purpose, right?

He's acting.

This doesn't ring true.
 Quoting: William_the_Bloody


He's not acting. He's probably sedated and his face drooping and they tell him he has to open his eyes wide and look alert.

This is a boy who may have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. He is in state custody. He's not getting the careful medical care a medical student gets from a university clinic. He's getting what the state is willing to pay for. Schizophrenics in the US have a poorer prognosis than schizophrenics in the third world because we overmedicate.

The newer medicines may be "normalizing" but heavy tranquilizers are still used. They aren't treating this boy. They are sedating him.
 Quoting: holymerrymotherofgod


they also need to be surrounded by a loving family. Even at college be was living alone in a dorm room and his parents didn't know it started. Not good.

Btw I have no idea how loving family around you slows down a brain degeneration problem... It just does for some reason.
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Btw

The schiz stare eye malfunction is not related to his walleye problem from his younger years. Lazy eye does not equal schizophrenia.
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Yes and no.

couple years ago be was a normal kid

Then his Scizophrenia started kicing in

At the beginning it was hard to tell what, if anything was wrong, the disease progresses that way.

He was at the age where schiz usually starts, he is a male (much more common in males) and he was in a mathy field of study (for some reason its more common in mathy people).

the classic schiz stare was not fully there in his mugshot, but it's fully there in his most recent photo. The stare is actually due to eye malfunction.

Sciz is a brain degenerative disorder and we don't know the cause and we don't have a cure. Since the brain controls the eyes, you can even see the brain degeneration progression through the development if the schiz stare, which is more haunting than a normal person eyes staring at you.

Annnnyway.. . It is him but it's not.

If you knew him a few years ago and thought he would never do something like this, you were right.

That guy is dead, the brain has degenerated and this new personality is the result. It will keep degenerating and he may even become catatonic.

If we could find the cause or cure for schizophrenia ... well.... Hope we do someday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24106062


Bullshit. And highly offensive. Schizophrenia is a treatable condition. Orthomolecular physicians have long treated it with detoxification diets and adjustments of histamine levels. Newer "atypical anti-psychotics" regulate histamine. Older ones were just tranks.

The degeneration of disease we see in some older people diagnosed with schizophrenia is caused by older medical treatments--insulin shock therapy, electric shock therapy, odd and bizarre therapies--and life lived in a state of heavy sedation which did nothing to prevent the symptoms of schizophrenia--it just kept the patient moving slow enough to be kept up with by a lazy or disinterested caregiver.

Schizophrenics have recovered completely, with no treatment, with allopathic medicine, and with natural medicine.

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