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We didn't make any movie. Not even sure it exists. Perhaps there is only that trailer?

But why should we apologize for our own freedoms and beliefs?

That's just wrong.
 Quoting: Bluebird




The fact that Obama and Clinton are apologizing on BEHALF of the USA because of some film an Egyptian made is absolutely insane. Even if it was an American citizen who made it, why should the whole country be blamed for what one person did?

Also, since when do we not have the freedom of speech to make a movie about whatever the Hell we want? We have to apologize for expressing our opinions and thoughts?

This sets a dangerous precedent. As others have posted in different threads, all of this makes it look like America is supposed to be the fall guy for the NWO and TPTB and they want us long gone.

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Yes, I agree with both of you....I'm just weary with this world in general these days......my heart is tired and I really wished I didn't care anymore!
 Quoting: Beso

I find that adopting an attitude of open minded skepticism seems to be helpful. If someone makes extraordinary claims, then prove it. Quite simple really and instantly eliminates a large portion of BS. As for the heart, I suspect that you have been easily able to envision where the world has been heading for quite some time now. Being too empathic with things will only cause you harm. As with all things a balance must be reached and maintained.
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Do you think the US should apologize for this movie?
 Quoting: Beso


Yes, they should.

Americans all belong to one nation, so they should all apologise on behalf of that stupid American who made the disrespectful film.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24128460

You are so FUNNY! I am laughing non-stop.

Actually, we should apologize to the world for the fact that the democrat party is such a bunch of communist-retreads, bent on repeating Russia's socialist error here. And, we should apologize for being such a bunch of passive, lame-ass drones for allowing the democrats to get away with it.

I'm sorry, Pakistan!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11835165


Truly, beliefs have nothing to do with a 'party'....The days of a true Democrat or Republican are long gone, the illusion of this separation is finally coming to light...albeit slower for some than for others. One party is no different than the other, only the perspective they were raised in, and this changes once they get in office. That is the only thing we can count on.....Change ~ yeah, and not what you think! hf
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We didn't make any movie. Not even sure it exists. Perhaps there is only that trailer?

But why should we apologize for our own freedoms and beliefs?

That's just wrong.
 Quoting: Bluebird




The fact that Obama and Clinton are apologizing on BEHALF of the USA because of some film an Egyptian made is absolutely insane. Even if it was an American citizen who made it, why should the whole country be blamed for what one person did?

Also, since when do we not have the freedom of speech to make a movie about whatever the Hell we want? We have to apologize for expressing our opinions and thoughts?

This sets a dangerous precedent. As others have posted in different threads, all of this makes it look like America is supposed to be the fall guy for the NWO and TPTB and they want us long gone.

explosion jihad jihad2 explosion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4428411


Yes, I agree with both of you....I'm just weary with this world in general these days......my heart is tired and I really wished I didn't care anymore!
 Quoting: Beso

I find that adopting an attitude of open minded skepticism seems to be helpful. If someone makes extraordinary claims, then prove it. Quite simple really and instantly eliminates a large portion of BS. As for the heart, I suspect that you have been easily able to envision where the world has been heading for quite some time now. Being too empathic with things will only cause you harm. As with all things a balance must be reached and maintained.
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hugs Thank you....I can only keep trying...I have such a long way to go, and it feels I've been going on ever so long!
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I do not think a Theocracy that has government set to be upholding strict religious practices should be accessing foreign nation not theocracy.

Everything in the culture has offense to them from the nations dressing styles to speech to eating habits on and on.

A theocracy is a narrow limited ideology and one that strictly upholds their religious laws in their national borders.

It should be off limits to the nations civilian social domains. There is many offenses to them in all these do from their music to their apparel their hair their diet.

If they have a theocracy and they like it and want it then they should remain in it and not wander about out side their nation to find insult to them in strange foreign lands.

It is a public risk and civilian risk to those who are wide open prey to foreign nations and their chosen cultural ways.

How can they practice their chosen way of life if they put their selves out of it and go into that which they do not accept and will kill because it is not acceptable to them.

The national security of a nation and its citizens and culture is left with no security from extremism that is even foreign to them. It is also not accepted or taken up by these individuals.

If it is done with in the nation then the one who murders another and such over religious extremism needs to be held accountable in our nation.

It would be the same if a nation was spying on our way of life and nation to deem it worthy to be killed by them.

I block what I am offended by like porn and such because I myself says it is offensive to me.

Yet I do not impose death on those who do access it nor persecute them for it. I do not even attack them for it.

If they can not contain them selves from violence over belief then they have to be restricted. Their actions when threatening to life like that needs to be restricted they can not mix with out insult worthy of attacking others over.

They will be happier and free of any insults to them and offenses. They will attract like mind into their nations like in their own minds.

Just like the Bible bans in Saudi and such yet they had no one killed over offending their Bible belief they just can not tolerate it.

Yet if they travel out side their own national borders they are traveling in foreign lands and they then can expect strangers there.

Those not like them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22054163


I really like this post.....what do you think we can do to stop this? How can we get them to understand? This is a very random thought, but sometimes I wonder if it is because of television/internet/etc....I mean has this religion always been this extremely violent, or is the media creating a monster? As in, look how long it has taken for Christianity to 'evolve' to acceptance of other 'Christian' faiths.....it took quite sometime (according to history) for them to stop murdering/slaughtering/etc...is this religion perhaps just now starting to 'catch up'. (for lack of better words)
 Quoting: Beso


Sorry, but the Muslims are inherently violent. Christian beliefs have been distorted in the past to allow for violence, but I assure you - read the words of Jesus, even when they were killing Him, He was speaking of forgiveness! True Christians give themselves up to death before they take to violence.

A lot of religions have been distorted to allow for violence, but I-slam is violent by desisn. Those who cannot see this well, you know.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Yes, I understand what you are saying....so basically TRUE Christianity is destined to be wiped out from the face of the earth....for if people are really this violent and if TRUE Christians have no one to defend them, they will be destroyed....Please know I'm trying to understand this...I'm not trying to just be argumentative or difficult. My heart is crying out about all of this!!!
 Quoting: Beso


Beso....My heart is not crying out about all of this..

If My heart is crying out about all of this then I would have no hope. And how could I have no hope if I indeed am Christian and serve the God of Hope.

When the very point to come to has already came and has already went forth killing Christians and burning churches and such.

Even the one that raised up from old the same beheading and such none of this is shocking to us.

But it is the way it was to go forth and the way it was to carry out...

It is not as though I have not foresaw this I have.

That and much greater things I have already foresaw before they went forth.

So why would I concern myself to cry?

The matter is already where the matter needs to be at the time appointed. It is already be addressed.

In the same imaginations that came forth from you is the same reasoning that deems the addressing of this.

"if TRUE Christians have no one to defend them"

"they will be destroyed"

This is the age old reasoning of mens minds. This is not new this is expected.

It is not us who witness it who are confused or desolate.

We know what is going on and why.

If you know this you will not have to worry about the things of this world in relation to your own self.

These things do not happen just out of mere mans choice...nor their desire nor their negligence or ignorance.

These things are going exactly where they are lead to go.

Man thinks he decided his next thoughts he has had or is having.....man is a fool. For man knows not where his own thoughts are coming from.

You would know what I am saying when you say something with no forethought of what you were going to have come forth in words from you or say so to say... yet you never had any knowledge or information of it to have known to have said it.


You actually have to go and find the explanation and definition of what you had come out of your mouth. Words you never spoke before nor vocabulary you even knew or had.

And you are like who, where did that come from what does it mean...

And to find out if you said something wrong or if it was wicked or evil you have to go and find out what it means where it came form and get the understanding of what you just said and thought as you said it

And you do so in fear and trembling because you are worried you said something wrong. Because you do not know what you said.

Yet when you pull up the words and definitions and understanding of them.....it was exactly what applied to what you were addressing. And it was correct.

And you know that was not me speaking nor my words..

I do not have a broad vocabulary or higher education really at all never have had. I got married and worked for family and what i would call menial labor. Nor did I have any foreign languages like vocabulary used in the middle ages and further back.

We do not have nothing to worry about.

I only speak to give some conversation to any who may be wanting to talk or be spoken to for some reason or another..

But I do not care.

And this not in a hard hearted way.

It means I care for their feeling and thoughts but not my own.

For I have none.
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Would have saved a lot of money and trouble by just deporting the racist crew(excluding those actors/actresses misled in the filming if those claims are true) to Pakistan/Iran/Afghanistan, etc. It's wildly amazing he can apologize for a film he had no direct action in but yet allows masses of innocent civilians to be murdered or crippled for life by way of predator drones, without mere mention of regret. Gotta love political idiocy.
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I really like this post.....what do you think we can do to stop this? How can we get them to understand? This is a very random thought, but sometimes I wonder if it is because of television/internet/etc....I mean has this religion always been this extremely violent, or is the media creating a monster? As in, look how long it has taken for Christianity to 'evolve' to acceptance of other 'Christian' faiths.....it took quite sometime (according to history) for them to stop murdering/slaughtering/etc...is this religion perhaps just now starting to 'catch up'. (for lack of better words)
 Quoting: Beso


Sorry, but the Muslims are inherently violent. Christian beliefs have been distorted in the past to allow for violence, but I assure you - read the words of Jesus, even when they were killing Him, He was speaking of forgiveness! True Christians give themselves up to death before they take to violence.

A lot of religions have been distorted to allow for violence, but I-slam is violent by desisn. Those who cannot see this well, you know.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Yes, I understand what you are saying....so basically TRUE Christianity is destined to be wiped out from the face of the earth....for if people are really this violent and if TRUE Christians have no one to defend them, they will be destroyed....Please know I'm trying to understand this...I'm not trying to just be argumentative or difficult. My heart is crying out about all of this!!!
 Quoting: Beso


Beso....My heart is not crying out about all of this..

If My heart is crying out about all of this then I would have no hope. And how could I have no hope if I indeed am Christian and serve the God of Hope.

When the very point to come to has already came and has already went forth killing Christians and burning churches and such.

Even the one that raised up from old the same beheading and such none of this is shocking to us.

But it is the way it was to go forth and the way it was to carry out...

It is not as though I have not foresaw this I have.

That and much greater things I have already foresaw before they went forth.

So why would I concern myself to cry?

The matter is already where the matter needs to be at the time appointed. It is already be addressed.

In the same imaginations that came forth from you is the same reasoning that deems the addressing of this.

"if TRUE Christians have no one to defend them"

"they will be destroyed"

This is the age old reasoning of mens minds. This is not new this is expected.

It is not us who witness it who are confused or desolate.

We know what is going on and why.

If you know this you will not have to worry about the things of this world in relation to your own self.

These things do not happen just out of mere mans choice...nor their desire nor their negligence or ignorance.

These things are going exactly where they are lead to go.

Man thinks he decided his next thoughts he has had or is having.....man is a fool. For man knows not where his own thoughts are coming from.

You would know what I am saying when you say something with no forethought of what you were going to have come forth in words from you or say so to say... yet you never had any knowledge or information of it to have known to have said it.


You actually have to go and find the explanation and definition of what you had come out of your mouth. Words you never spoke before nor vocabulary you even knew or had.

And you are like who, where did that come from what does it mean...

And to find out if you said something wrong or if it was wicked or evil you have to go and find out what it means where it came form and get the understanding of what you just said and thought as you said it

And you do so in fear and trembling because you are worried you said something wrong. Because you do not know what you said.

Yet when you pull up the words and definitions and understanding of them.....it was exactly what applied to what you were addressing. And it was correct.

And you know that was not me speaking nor my words..

I do not have a broad vocabulary or higher education really at all never have had. I got married and worked for family and what i would call menial labor. Nor did I have any foreign languages like vocabulary used in the middle ages and further back.

We do not have nothing to worry about.

I only speak to give some conversation to any who may be wanting to talk or be spoken to for some reason or another..

But I do not care.

And this not in a hard hearted way.

It means I care for their feeling and thoughts but not my own.

For I have none.
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Have you always felt this way, or is this a new take on life?
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Well....Good Night/Good Morning/Good Day World ~ if you do nothing else in the next hour or two....how about doing these two things?

1) Forgive someone.
2) Do one random act of kindness....even if it is a seemingly silly compliment to a stranger....can't we even TRY to treat other people the way we would like to be treated? That saying doesn't say to treat other people the WAY they treat you.

Thank you all for letting me view life through your eyes!!! I appreciate you all!! hf
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Sobe ...
"Have you always felt this way, or is this a new take on life?"

It is something I can not explain it is not a new thing but it is not explainable in a time wise way.

I can not understand things but only what I am given the understanding of.

So I do not know.

I know things but do not understand why or what they even mean.

I will know when I see them be or appear or happen when they take place. Even if I saw them before hand or before they did happen to be.

The reason they are is not given to me before hand or what all in depths they will do or cause or are even for.

I am only shown things but not given the understanding so it is not a thing you have to offer another.

It is of no benefit to any one else because there is no understanding of it.

If you attempt to find understanding of it you will only find error. It will cause you to believe it is something it is not.

So I have learned not to seek the understanding of it only keep what was shown to me and go on my usually way. This is when I see something before it is this is when I see it is by sight in mind in my mind before hand.

What is shown beforehand is so when I see it I will believe it is from Him who gave it and showed it to me.

It is for confirmation that is what was to come and Him who sent it or allowed it to come. He assures this is something He knows about and is in His charge...good or bad it is to be.

And then other things will be applied to that as in what is happening. Then I will understand what it means and I do not worry I just witness it happened from outside what is happening yet I am still there where and when it is happening. Just watching it pass on but not apart of it. Even if it becomes apart of my own mind it is something I was not apart of. I just took notice of it and watch it and know it for what it is and does.

If I am to say something that is not just me passing time visiting with others in fellowship then I will not know anything about it until it is spoken through me. I can not see it before hand or see it coming before it goes forth.

I will know it was not me speaking because it will be understanding and information I never had or had any knowledge of. I will not understand it my own self. I am in need of it as well as the person it was relayed to it helps me the same as it helps them. Sometimes I never even know them who was spoken to. They never know me or that I said what I myself did not know my own self to them. So they never know it was not me speaking or my words to them.

We just pass in the way with nothing ever said other than the relay of the message.

This is just the way it is and it has been so since I was little I do not know when it started.

I do not try to know things my own self it is a waste of my time and never benefits me or in me.

It just is not real any thing I do my own self is just a wast of time it is something like a time filler. So I fill in my time passing my time and I know when I am not just passing time but applying unto the time at hand or that is.

Sobe.. So Be It...Be It So.

I just am and that's just fine with me what ever will be will be and that just fine with me.
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we have no money for such a expensive apology. plus we have rights to do such things here in our so called free country. if our pres. wants to apologize so be it pick up the phone. he's got to earn his keep.
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What did the Arab writing under the caption at beginning say?
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I have no clue 1dunno1 Maybe someone might would read it and translate it for us?
 Quoting: Beso


What you don't seem to understand. As a christisan for me. When soneone makes a joke about my Lord. I let it bounce off my shoulder's. These people will kill you period. You are the infidel to them. Until you convert to Islam. If you do not do that be prepared to die.
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 Quoting: Beso


This is a fucking joke right? What the fuck is this shit?
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wtf

OMG I cant take this stupidity anymore ? Did you watch that so called movie ? Come on this is an insult to free expression !

We are so fucked !

Pin this shizzy !

I need meds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11905544


No, I haven't seen the movie....What can we do though to stop all this nonsense....Can anything truly be done at this point?
 Quoting: Beso


I don't think so.

These events have been put in motion and are only likely to esculate from here on in.

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If anyone should appologize is the fucking retards that killed those men and those who supported/support the retards. BUt that would still not be enough.
What US should do is occupy Libia completely, not irakian style, full ocupation, drive all the crazy muslims out.
there shouldn't be fanatics so close to europe anyway.
Obama looks like diareea now, I'm not talking about color.
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Amazing, the levels of disrespects this man has for his own Nation, the men and women who he sent into war over there.

My guess is Obama in his heart, doesn't feel at home in the US

He don't care at all about the US does he.
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Well....Good Night/Good Morning/Good Day World ~ if you do nothing else in the next hour or two....how about doing these two things?

1) Forgive someone.
2) Do one random act of kindness....even if it is a seemingly silly compliment to a stranger....can't we even TRY to treat other people the way we would like to be treated? That saying doesn't say to treat other people the WAY they treat you.

Thank you all for letting me view life through your eyes!!! I appreciate you all!! hf
 Quoting: Beso


happyheart
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All non-native so-called "Americans" living in America:

You say to them, "If you want to practice Muslim religion, go back to your own country and do it. Don't bring your culture here."

If you have an issue with Muslim immigrants, remember you are an immigrant to America yourself.

Trace your ancestral roots as far back as you can, and go to your native land where you truly belong and have the right to speak.

The only people who have the right to speak for America is the Native Americans and ONLY them.
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It's a very sad day when the leader of the free world apologizes to a hoard of barbarians for the freedom of speech in his country ! verysad
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Shouldn't the add have included at least a snippet of the film ?
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Do you think the US should apologize for this movie?
 Quoting: Beso


NO.

When the media no longer shows up for the staged riots, they will cease. No embassies.. No audience.
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Dog and pony show.
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I thought the movie was in poor taste, but most movies are right? I can't recall how many times I have been offended by this website. However, that doesn't give me the right to kill someone representing GLP, or torch sovereign property. These people think it does, and that's the real problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10856022


Yes, I do agree.....but how can we stop them from this? I read a post someone had compared them to children. (i.e. getting pissed off because people didn't want to follow their rules to their game) So how can we solve this?
 Quoting: Beso


Easy:


RESPECT OTHER CULTURES DIFFERENT THAN YOURS.


It wasn't that hard was it?

Yep, the key word is DIFFERENT, NOT EVERYONE IN THIS BIG WORLD FOLLOW YOUR OWN WAYS OF LIFE AND MANNERS, IT'S NOT THE 'UNITED STATES OF THE WORLD'...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24041255


I do agree EVERYONE should respect EVERYONE....and this reaction sure is 'teaching' the United States how to respect....right????? hf
 Quoting: Beso


i would agree with you if i didn't know this whole thing is made to throw USA into the hands of the "overlords". we get to watch as our country goes down.we have been turned against each other we can't possibly see other cultures side
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Shouldn't the add have included at least a snippet of the film ?
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HEHE! NOW THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EEEEEEVIL!

My Fellow Pakistanis, Hillary I are very sorry (play clip of Mohammed handing out sweeties at a creche)...We didn't make that!
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It's a very sad day when the leader of the free world apologizes to a hoard of barbarians for the freedom of speech in his country ! verysad
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Everything he does is sad,I so want him ****
His entire cabinet has destroyed our country....Worse than the previous three combined X 100 and the very sad part is NO ONE WILL STOP HIM?????!
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wtf
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That is Obama. He apologizes to everyone but the American People he has defrauded.
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All non-native so-called "Americans" living in America:

You say to them, "If you want to practice Muslim religion, go back to your own country and do it. Don't bring your culture here."

If you have an issue with Muslim immigrants, remember you are an immigrant to America yourself.

Trace your ancestral roots as far back as you can, and go to your native land where you truly belong and have the right to speak.

The only people who have the right to speak for America is the Native Americans and ONLY them.
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stfu
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09/21/2012 04:28 AM
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it is easy to cross the line of
coming off as arrogant

they should include in that ad that
in U.S.A. every individual man is
entitled to his own opinion and
quite within legal right to
express said opinion as is
gauranteed and protected
in our constitution.

spread the word:
freedom first!
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09/21/2012 04:31 AM
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will they bill sam bacile?





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